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Although there's sure to be a biased amongst the largely American player base, which military is the best in the world? I'll cram as many into the poll as I can but suggest another if you will. I'm going to put those on the poll which my training and experiences at Sandhurst have taught me, and from what I know from a country's history (I'm a military historian) and its current situation.

Have fun :P

You really make too many threads, and the IDF.

USA. More troops, tanks, planes and ships than most countries, better trained personell than almost any country, more advanced technology than any nation. The US military kicks ass.

IDF.

China should be a poll choice too. People have a conception that the PLA is poorly trained and only relies on strength of numbers, but do remember that China defeated India in war in 1963, and nowadays the chinese government is investing huge amounts of resources in upgrading skills and equipment.

USA. More troops, tanks, planes and ships than most countries, better trained personell than almost any country, more advanced technology than any nation. The US military kicks ass.

Very poorly trained and poorly led though, and a shocking intelligence agency to provide bad info. ;)

Israel, they are constantly fighting in the West Bank, Gaza, etc. so they are the best experienced in terms of combat action.

The swiss, they are by FAR the best trained, Considering EVERYONE in the entire country is an expert marksman.

Israel, they are constantly fighting in the West Bank, Gaza, etc. so they are the best experienced in terms of combat action.

The British contanstly fight the IRA, and have troops all over the COmmonwealth looking out for people. It's not quite as intense, but combined with rigorous training I believe you get a better soldier at the end.

Very poorly trained and poorly led though, and a shocking intelligence agency to provide bad info.

Well, the leaders on the ground are good, can't say the same with the highest command. I agree, our intelligence is a bit of a joke. I wouldn't rely on it.

The swiss, they are by FAR the best trained, Considering EVERYONE in the entire country is an expert marksman.

Right, but when was the last time any of them had to hit a moving target?

The British contanstly fight the IRA, and have troops all over the COmmonwealth looking out for people. It's not quite as intense, but combined with rigorous training I believe you get a better soldier at the end.

Actually, they were my second choice. Israel barely won out.

What the hell? Canada made it on the stupid poll and the U.S. didn't? Someone's head is up someone's ass.

Very poorly trained and poorly led though, and a shocking intelligence agency to provide bad info. ;)
Bullshit. US troops get more realistic training than almost any other country. They shoot more rounds in training than almost any other country. Anyone who knows anything about military matters knows that. Also they're very well led by their officers, perhaps not so well led by the civilian politicians.

The British contanstly fight the IRA, and have troops all over the COmmonwealth looking out for people. It's not quite as intense, but combined with rigorous training I believe you get a better soldier at the end.
Sporadic IRA cases are nothing compared to the Palestinian intifadas that Israel dealt with. There was street fighting on a daily basis, and constant military preparedness was required.

What the hell? Canada made it on the stupid poll and the U.S. didn't? Someone's head is up someone's ass.

I think it is because the US would be the overwhelming first choice.

Very poorly trained and poorly led though, and a shocking intelligence agency to provide bad info. ;)
Thats why our casualty rate has been so low, even in Vietnam when we lost. Obviously.

USA would win any war against a conventional military. Remember all that military spending that people spend so much time complaining about? Surprise! It pays off!


Best trained is really hard to say. Every country has its elite soldiers, but as a whole I would say the USA. Since it's not on the poll, Israel would be next choice.

What the hell? Canada made it on the stupid poll and the U.S. didn't? Someone's head is up someone's ass.

We're talking about training here, not size and equipment.

United States Army is the top infantry force in the world

(with all due respect to US Marines... and it is hilarious that "USA" is not an option when it would kick the snot out of all of the listed armies)

I think it is because the US would be the overwhelming first choice.
No, its because Botrosox hates the US.

What the hell? Canada made it on the stupid poll and the U.S. didn't? Someone's head is up someone's ass.
It's because the Canadians tend to hit the other side rather than their own.

Thats why our casualty rate has been so low, even in Vietnam when we lost. Obviously.

USA would win any war against a conventional military. Remember all that military spending that people spend so much time complaining about? Surprise! It pays off!


Best trained is really hard to say. Every country has its elite soldiers, but as a whole I would say the USA. Since it's not on the poll, Israel would be next choice.

Has it? I seem to remember you marching square battallions into machine gun posts in WW1 and having the highest % of casualties in relation to troops sent...ANYROAD, no, you see it's impossible for you to train your troops as well because a) the training programs aren't as rigoroous, this is fact. b) the USA has a poor ratio of academy and instructors to overall number of troops.

We're talking about training here, not size and equipment.
Yeah, and the US military is among the best trained in the world. A case can be made for the Israelis being better trained, perhaps the British, but I doubt it. Other than those two, who else trains as much or as realisticaly?

No, its because Botrosox hates the US.

That works too. Maybe it's more likely?

we're hitting plenty of insurgents too... those f***ers don't exactly stand in formation.

We're talking about training here, not size and equipment.
Then say best trained. Besides, we lost 1500 soldiers and have occupied a country of milions for 2 years. No other nation in the world can say that.

Bullshit. US troops get more realistic training than almost any other country. They shoot more rounds in training than almost any other country. Anyone who knows anything about military matters knows that. Also they're very well led by their officers, perhaps not so well led by the civilian politicians.
Quantity does not equate quality, unless you are a Marxist.

We're talking about training here, not size and equipment.
If you consider the combined training level of the entire military, I don't think anyone can compare to the US.

If you consider only the best-trained soldiers from every country, I'd say you have a 150-way tie.

No, its because Botrosox hates the US.

No, it's because I attended Sandhurst and I know my militaries. Diddums thinks if america comes out badly, it must be anti-american conspiracy! OH NO

I'll be honest, if it was the USA best trained against everyone else's best trained, I'd have to go with the UK. The SAS is just intense! Not that the Navy Seal's is a cake-walk but dang.

Best trained is really hard to say. Every country has its elite soldiers, .
Yeah, but how many countries can say a hundred or so of their elite soldiers held off a whole city, took only about 18 casualties, and inflicted thousands. The US Rangers and Delta did that in Mogadishu.

If you consider the combined training level of the entire military, I don't think anyone can compare to the US.

If you consider only the best-trained soldiers from every country, I'd say you have a 150-way tie.
American grunt are very poorly trained, but there are such biaseds here at works it's pointless arguing.

Has it? I seem to remember you marching square battallions into machine gun posts in WW1 and having the highest % of casualties in relation to troops sent

Well, that was a long time ago, and tactics have changed. More recently, our casualties have fallen because we have probably the best air force and a strong navy. Infantry don't totally decide the army, at least in modern war.

we're hitting plenty of insurgents too... those f***ers don't exactly stand in formation.
And British, Canadians, your own...

Has it? I seem to remember you marching square battallions into machine gun posts in WW1 and having the highest % of casualties in relation to troops sent...ANYROAD, no, you see it's impossible for you to train your troops as well because a) the training programs aren't as rigoroous, this is fact. b) the USA has a poor ratio of academy and instructors to overall number of troops.
I was just looking at a chart of the casualties in WWI and proportion of casualty rates to total military participation, and what I remember doesn't match up with what you're saying. If you'd like to cite a source, I will put more thought into your statement.

Quantity does not equate quality, unless you are a Marxist.
Did you read the whole post? I never said numbers were everything, but the US combines numbers with the absolute best military technology and among the best trained troops.

American grunt are very poorly trained, but there are such biaseds here at works it's pointless arguing.
Grunt? What is this, 1960?!?!

United States Army is the top infantry force in the world

(with all due respect to US Marines... and it is hilarious that "USA" is not an option when it would kick the snot out of all of the listed armies)

Again, as someone said "at least the other countries won't shoot their own team". That the American infantry is so poorly trained, and everyone outside America acknowledges this and most experts within America is precisely why it's not on the poll

No, it's because I attended Sandhurst and I know my militaries. Diddums thinks if america comes out badly, it must be anti-american conspiracy! OH NOWhy would you have Pakistan on there and not the US? Pakistan's military has never won a war, simple operations in Kashmir cost them hundreds of casualties, and there are serious discipline/disloyalty problems due to Taliban infiltration. Musharraf has been forced to purge many of his own officers for disorderliness.

And British, Canadians, your own...
OMG! I never realized friendly fire occurs in war!

Grunt? What is this, 1960?!?!

One would think, judging from the American Militaries training program.

OMG! I never realized friendly fire occurs in war!

Who'd a thunk it? :p

I think if I had to choose, I'd rather have the US backing me up than anyone else.

Did you read the whole post? I never said numbers were everything, but the US combines numbers with the absolute best military technology and among the best trained troops.
I read the entire post and commented on the most relevant part. The US Army has decent military technology, but often the troops are not competently trained enough to use that equipment to its fullest capacity. The Israelis and the British are, and Israeli military technology, whether homegrown or imported, is often equal to that of the US.

Thats why our casualty rate has been so low, even in Vietnam when we lost. Obviously.

USA would win any war against a conventional military. Remember all that military spending that people spend so much time complaining about? Surprise! It pays off!


Best trained is really hard to say. Every country has its elite soldiers, but as a whole I would say the USA. Since it's not on the poll, Israel would be next choice.

I beg to differ, I live in the US and too believe we have the greatest military however yes in a head-on head conflict the US would defeat any advisarie but if we ever invaded China there would be no way to win and then keep the populace under control.

Also IO find it funny Canada made it on the list, im sorry I dont want to saound like an ignorant American or anything but next to WWII, Canada really hasnt done much, okay they layed the smackdown on the US in the War of 1812 but they were still a British colony so it dont count.

Again, as someone said "at least the other countries won't shoot their own team". That the American infantry is so poorly trained, and everyone outside America acknowledges this and most experts within America is precisely why it's not on the poll
Other countries don't engage in warfare to the extent that we do. When the shit hits the fan it's usually US troops who go in first. When airpower is needed it's usually US aviators who get the job done. You can't have friendly fire incidents when your troops rarely ever get to fire at all.

Who'd a thunk it? :p

Indeed, but the Americans have developed something of a panache for it. I believe the British lost more troops to American bumblings than to the insurgents. I don't think there were any casualties by insurgents until after peace was declared, which is pretty remarkable performance on the British part of things as far as I[m concerned.

Other countries don't engage in warfare to the extent that we do. When the shit hits the fan it's usually US troops who go in first. When airpower is needed it's usually US aviators who get the job done. You can't have friendly fire incidents when your troops rarely ever get to fire at all.
The Israelis, British and French are frequently engaged in conflicts and have fewer incidents of blue-on-blue engagements. Not that I would put the French among the best militaries...

Basically this thread is to convey Botrosox's anti-Americanism... there is little logic to the poll, because nations like India and Pakistan are listed while the US is left off... :rolleyes:

Other countries don't engage in warfare to the extent that we do. When the shit hits the fan it's usually US troops who go in first. When airpower is needed it's usually US aviators who get the job done. You can't have friendly fire incidents when your troops rarely ever get to fire at all.

That's BS..it's nothing to do with shit hitting the fan, it's to do with an Evangelical Half-wit being your president. Plus, Britain and the European countries engage in USEFUL operations across the world. USEFUL, you hear?

Basically this thread is to convey Botrosox's anti-Americanism... there is little logic to the poll, because nations like India and Pakistan are listed while the US is left off... :rolleyes:

I am anti-French if anything, yet I know their military to be on a par with the American training wise. They are on the poll. SImply, the American military just didn't cut it TRAINING wise. Sorry.

OMG! I never realized friendly fire occurs in war!
Friendly fire is part of war (artillery falling short), wilful ignorance (going against orders and firing, bombing your own side) is something different. And that something different happens an awful lot with the Americans around.

I am anti-French if anything, yet I know their military to be on a par with the American training wise. They are on the poll. SImply, the American military just didn't cut it TRAINING wise. Sorry.
And the Pakistani military does?

Friendly fire is part of war (artillery falling short), wilful ignorance (going against orders and firing, bombing your own side) is something different. And that something different happens an awful lot with the Americans around.

Very well said.

That's BS..it's nothing to do with shit hitting the fan, it's to do with an Evangelical Half-wit being your president. Plus, Britain and the European countries engage in USEFUL operations across the world. USEFUL, you hear?
And now your bias becomes all too apparent. Although I doubt you actually have a military degree at all, if you do it shows very poor training by whatever mockery of an organization give it to you.

The Israelis, British and French are frequently engaged in conflicts and have fewer incidents of blue-on-blue engagements. Not that I would put the French among the best militaries...
Israelis maybe. British and French? The British, though they are excellent troops, are patroling the friendliest areas in Iraq. They don't get into as many fights. The French? Well where have they been fighting lately? A couple of skirmishes in Africa don't count as frequent conflicts.

Indeed, but the Americans have developed something of a panache for it. I believe the British lost more troops to American bumblings than to the insurgents. I don't think there were any casualties by insurgents until after peace was declared, which is pretty remarkable performance on the British part of things as far as I[m concerned.
Not to be macho and uuber American, but the British were working in the south of Iraq, where the population is Shia. There were lots of complaints when a British unit was assigned to 'dangerous' Baghdad so American units could take Fallujah.

Don't get me wrong, the Brits rock. Im an anglophile myself.

And the Pakistani military does?

It does, yes. The American military really is quite down-market, training wise. No joke. You've got the best tech, but not good training.

Not to be macho and uuber American, but the British were working in the south of Iraq, where the population is Shia. There were lots of complaints when a British unit was assigned to 'dangerous' Baghdad so American units could take Fallujah.

Don't get me wrong, the Brits rock. Im an anglophile myself.

This was because the Population was against the war, this is a political issue. Unlike in the US, in the UK the war was not popularly supported.

That's BS..it's nothing to do with shit hitting the fan, it's to do with an Evangelical Half-wit being your president. Plus, Britain and the European countries engage in USEFUL operations across the world. USEFUL, you hear?

you're right, we should have left 80% of iraqis to rot under saddam.

how dare we free them?

It does, yes. The American military really is quite down-market, training wise. No joke. You've got the best tech, but not good training.
What sort of extra effective training Pakistan has which the US doesn't have?

And now your bias becomes all too apparent. Although I doubt you actually have a military degree at all, if you do it shows very poor training by whatever mockery of an organization give it to you.

Not at all, I just look at things very objectively. Check the Sandhurst website if you think it's to be mocked.

Friendly fire is part of war (artillery falling short), wilful ignorance (going against orders and firing, bombing your own side) is something different. And that something different happens an awful lot with the Americans around.
Got an example of Americans violating orders and attacking their own side?

It does, yes. The American military really is quite down-market, training wise. No joke. You've got the best tech, but not good training.

test:

since you think our infantry aren't trained well, would you be willing to take one on in hand-to-hand combat?

because you'd get your ass kicked.

ESPECIALLY if you took on a Marine. (and obviously Special Forces)

What sort of extra effective training Pakistan has which the US doesn't have?

Marksmanship, obviously. The US forces wouldn't shoot so many friendlies otherwise.

Not at all, I just look at things very objectively. Check the Sandhurst website if you think it's to be mocked.
Oh right, check out someone's website to see if says nice things about them

Marksmanship, obviously. The US forces wouldn't shoot so many friendlies otherwise.
How many have we shot? Out of how many billions of rounds fired in 300 years?

If we were to take 100,000 soldiers from each country and give them all equal weapons, I would want US soldiers on my side. After that, it would be Israeli and Great Britain. Failing that, I would find a good place to hide until it was all over, because everyone else would get their ass kicked by those three.

test:

since you think our infantry aren't trained well, would you be willing to take one on in hand-to-hand combat?

because you'd get your ass kicked.

ESPECIALLY if you took on a Marine. (and obviously Special Forces)

Hah, I have actually...Marines are nothing special.

Another thing... whos friendly fire incidents and mistakes get global media coverage? The US and Britain. Everyone else's gets ignored except possibly in their own countries.

None of the above: USA Most technologically advanced/best trained military since 1945.

Marksmanship, obviously. The US forces wouldn't shoot so many friendlies otherwise.
So I assume you know off the top of your head statistics for Pakistan's rate of friendly fire incidents (in Kashmir) to compare with America's rate of friendly fire incidents (like in Iraq or Afghanistan?

So I assume you know off the top of your head statistics for Pakistan's rate of friendly fire incidents (in Kashmir) to compare with America's rate of friendly fire incidents (like in Iraq or Afghanistan?
I think he's getting his information less from the top of his head and more from the crack of his ass.

United States - which did not make the poll.

Israelis maybe. British and French? The British, though they are excellent troops, are patroling the friendliest areas in Iraq. They don't get into as many fights. The French? Well where have they been fighting lately? A couple of skirmishes in Africa don't count as frequent conflicts.
About the French, I never said they were among the best. In fact, I wrote otherwise. The British have fought in more arduous conditions than the Americans (the Falklands vs. Grenada and Panama for the Americans), have fought against an extended insurgency in Northern Ireland, and have been engaged in several other actions as well.

Yay! Israel is finally getting the votes she deserves.

Heck, the US buys some military hardware from them.

So I assume you know off the top of your head statistics for Pakistan's rate of friendly fire incidents (in Kashmir) to compare with America's rate of friendly fire incidents (like in Iraq or Afghanistan?
still waitin for a response from Mr. Sandhurst man

USA has best equpment, very good training, more atomic bombs than anyone, but our espionage (CIA) sucks ass.

Israel got very good espionage, but their military is average. They only win everything, because their neightbors have really bad armies. It doesn't take a lot of military strength to stop a poorly trained, poorly equiped Palestinian militia.

Yay! Israel is finally getting the votes she deserves.

Heck, the US buys some military hardware from them.
Precisely.

If we were to take 100,000 soldiers from each country and give them all equal weapons, I would want US soldiers on my side. After that, it would be Israeli and Great Britain. Failing that, I would find a good place to hide until it was all over, because everyone else would get their ass kicked by those three.

Elite soldiers or regular soldiers?

Because best elite soldiers belong to Australia, and Britain.

Does Canada even freakin have a military?

Marksmanship, obviously. The US forces wouldn't shoot so many friendlies otherwise.
You sir are full of shit. US troops fire more rounds in training than any third world nation. Bullets cost money. Shooting wears out gun barrels. Third world nations can't afford to repair their rifles as often, or spend as much cash on ammo.

USA has best equpment, very good training, more atomic bombs than anyone, but our espionage (CIA) sucks ass.

Israel got very good espionage, but their military is average. They only win everything, because their neightbors have really bad armies. It doesn't take a lot of military strength to stop a poorly trained, poorly equiped Palestinian militia.
Hmm, so that's why the US Army reviewed why the 82nd Airborne performed poorly in Panama, whereas the Israelis have won every war they've been in since 1947.

Lets try germany which you neglected. Europe feared germany, the first absolute monarch was german or at least part, Charles Martle who defeated the moors at the battle of Tours saved catholicism and europe and he was german, atilla and other german barbs defeated rome, Charlemange did something important and he was german, Baron von Buren (or somebody with a similar name) trained the american revelutionary army during the american revelution, otto von bismark was influencial on the African imperialism and united germany, the other europeans were afraid of the united germany
Nazi Germany invented the V2 which became the first space ship, stealth bomber and an austrian developed a bomber that was huge it took up several V2s and theoretically travelled at 15,000 mph but was never developed, they were working on the nuke although it was continually sabatoged, marched into moscow, devestated Russia, France, Poland, Britain, and possibly belgium before its defeat
quickly defeated the french, defeated napolean along with russia and GB, Kaiser II improved the navy which was feared by GB and the second largest, machine guns were invented there, chemo gas invented there, quickly came back after bad military defeats.

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To be fair, Botresox has a point. The American Military has garnered itself a reputation for being a bit appalling...especially after the recent mess they've made in Iraq.

It was hard to decide between Israel and Britain, but I opted for the UK because I remembered seeing the SAS in action.

USA has best equpment, very good training, more atomic bombs than anyone, but our espionage (CIA) sucks ass.

Israel got very good espionage, but their military is average. They only win everything, because their neightbors have really bad armies. It doesn't take a lot of military strength to stop a poorly trained, poorly equiped Palestinian militia.
Russia has more nuclear warheads.

Does Canada even freakin have a military?

Yes they were involved in D day

Lets try germany which you neglected. Europe feared germany, the first absolute monarch was german or at least part, Charles Martle who defeated the moors at the battle of Tours saved catholicism and europe and he was german, atilla and other german barbs defeated rome, Charlemange did something important and he was german, Baron von Buren (or somebody with a similar name) trained the american revelutionary army during the american revelution, otto von bismark was influencial on the African imperialism and united germany, the other europeans were afraid of the united germany
Nazi Germany invented the V2 which became the first space ship, stealth bomber and an austrian developed a bomber that was huge it took up several V2s and theoretically travelled at 15,000 mph but was never developed, they were working on the nuke although it was continually sabatoged, marched into moscow, devestated Russia, France, Poland, Britain, and possibly belgium before its defeat
quickly defeated the french, defeated napolean along with russia and GB, Kaiser II improved the navy which was feared by GB and the second largest, machine guns were invented there, chemo gas invented there, quickly came back after bad military defeats.

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Charlemagne was French...didn't devastate the UK.

Does Canada even freakin have a military?
They do, but it's a joke. they have like 5 battleships, 2 submarines, a few tanks and about 10 military helicopters. They don't need a military -- their only neighbor is more interested in trade with them, then conquest.

USA has best equpment, very good training, more atomic bombs than anyone, but our espionage (CIA) sucks ass.

Israel got very good espionage, but their military is average. They only win everything, because their neightbors have really bad armies. It doesn't take a lot of military strength to stop a poorly trained, poorly equiped Palestinian militia.
Again, it doesn't take much skill to stop the very poor armies of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, etc. Those armies barely even have tanks, let alone helicopters, or military satelites.

Does Canada even freakin have a military?
Very small, highly dedicated, and completely shat upon by the government. Good, but don't get enough live-fire training because of the parsimonious bastards in Ottawa.

Russia has more nuclear warheads.
The soviet union had more warhead.
Russia has less, because some of the warheads went to Ukraine

Russian military is very well trained, but their equipment is just awful, due to the high levels of curruption in their whole system.

Best sniper weapon in the world from canada

McMillan Brothers .50-cal. Tactical Anti-Materiel Sniper Rifle System. This is the new bolt-action, Long-Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW) introduced to the Canadian Infantry Battalions in April 2000. The LRSW is modified for Canadian Army use with a moveable cheek piece and shortened bipods, and is fitted with a 16x Leupold optical sight. It has a five-round magazine, weighs 12 kg./26.4 lbs., and is 145cm/58 in. in length. The Canadians push AMAX Match .50-caliber ammunition through it.

The soviet union had more warhead.
Russia has less, because some of the warheads went to Ukraine

Russian military is very well trained, but their equipment is just awful, due to the high levels of curruption in their whole system.
My Bad. I get Russia and USSR confused sometimes.

wtf

Lets try germany which you neglected. Europe feared germany, the first absolute monarch was german or at least part, Charles Martle who defeated the moors at the battle of Tours saved catholicism and europe and he was german, atilla and other german barbs defeated rome,
Atilla was not German, and Atilla did not end up defeating rome


Charlemange did something important and he was german, Baron von Buren (or somebody with a similar name) trained the american revelutionary army during the american revelution, otto von bismark was influencial on the African imperialism and united germany, the other europeans were afraid of the united germany
Nazi Germany invented the V2 which became the first space ship,
V2 was a not a space ship.


stealth bomber and an austrian developed a bomber that was huge it took up several V2s and theoretically travelled at 15,000 mph but was never developed, they were working on the nuke although it was continually sabatoged, marched into moscow,
Moscow has never been occupied by a German army.

devestated Russia, France, Poland, Britain,
No German army has ever set foot on britain.
and possibly belgium before its defeat
quickly defeated the french, defeated napolean along with russia and GB,
Germany never went to war with Napoleon (III) while fightin Russia and GB at the same time.

Kaiser II improved the navy which was feared by GB and the second largest, machine guns were invented there, chemo gas invented there, quickly came back after bad military defeats.

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was your whole post a joke?

They do, but it's a joke. they have like 5 battleships, 2 submarines, a few tanks and about 10 military helicopters. They don't need a military -- their only neighbor is more interested in trade with them, then conquest.


Again, it doesn't take much skill to stop the very poor armies of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, etc. Those armies barely even have tanks, let alone helicopters, or military satelites.
We have battleships? Fucking eh!

No, we have about 5 destroyers, 10-12 frigates, and 4 subs (crappy British things more liable to sink than float -- should've bought German since we couldn't afford nuclear boats). And the helicopters are falling out of the sky.

If we were to take 100,000 soldiers from each country and give them all equal weapons, I would want US soldiers on my side. After that, it would be Israeli and Great Britain. Failing that, I would find a good place to hide until it was all over, because everyone else would get their ass kicked by those three.

Wrong the history channel (in US) claimed that the US army trained the army so good that they cant do a single simple reconassance mission because of how they are trained. They rely on PMCs which are clearly the best trained.

Since you said country and PMCs are privatly owned the order should be
Germany (You'll get killed before you noticed. Superior tech and tatics make the world go round)
Russia (Kill yourselves to kill your enemy. Did i mention you're in Siberia comrad?)
Isreal (They refuse to surrender and probably the best nonEuro army)

All the training in the world isn't worth a damn unless you actually put the troops into combat. All the training in the world don't mean a damn only winning does. This is war, not a game. nah nah nah nah nah we're better than you is just child like playground nonsense.

In a head to head fight then only way any single nation on th earth could defeat the US is with a nuke strike or massive biological/chemical attacks upon its civillian populace. It is the whole package of millitary capability, including manufacturing that makes the capability. The fact that unit A beats unit B in some contest makes not one whit of difference.

Nazi Germany invented the V2 which became the first space ship, stealth bomber and an austrian developed a bomber that was huge it took up several V2s and theoretically travelled at 15,000 mph but was never developed, they were working on the nuke although it was continually sabatoged, marched into moscow, devestated Russia, France, Poland, Britain, and possibly belgium before its defeat
In the last year of war, Nazi Germany had made some amazing inventions and discoveries. It is now assumed that they first successfully split the atom and created and detonated a nuclear bomb, although it was much much smaller than ones in Heroshima/Nagasaki. They had invented, and even built and used some jet fighters but their problem was that they were fully jet, not turbo-jet, like we have today, so their fuel only lasted for like 15 minutes.

Thank god that the war ended before they could implement all their horrible inventions and change the tide of the war to their side.

wtf


Atilla was not German, and Atilla did not end up defeating rome



V2 was a not a space ship.



Moscow has never been occupied by a German army.


No German army has ever set foot on britain.

Germany never went to war with Napoleon (III) while fightin Russia and GB at the same time.


was your whole post a joke?

Huns are considered german although they were from asia
The V2 was used as a space ship after the war. All you need to do is take out the war head and add in a cockpit and tweak it a lil more.
The germans were repelled by Britain and they arrived to close to winter to do any good
Bombers my friend and subs cant forget subs
Yes they went to war with Nap with Russia and GB, not the III but the I, the III they went alone.

Wrong the history channel (in US) claimed that the US army trained the army so good that they cant do a single simple reconassance mission because of how they are trained. They rely on PMCs which are clearly the best trained.

Since you said country and PMCs are privatly owned the order should be
Germany (You'll get killed before you noticed. Superior tech and tatics make the world go round)
Russia (Kill yourselves to kill your enemy. Did i mention you're in Siberia comrad?)
Isreal (They refuse to surrender and probably the best nonEuro army)
Dude, you think the US military is poorly trained? Look up OPFOR at Ft. Irwin California and tell me any other nation in the world invests that much in training their armor troops.

Germany? Too small of an army, technology isn't as good as the US, less training.
Russia? Got their ass handed to them in Afghanistan, has to resort to using thermobaric weapons against little Chechnia.
Israel? One of the best. I'll give them that.

Dude, you think the US military is poorly trained? Look up OPFOR at Ft. Irwin California and tell me any other nation in the world invests that much in training their armor troops.

Germany? Too small of an army, technology isn't as good as the US, less training.
Russia? Got their ass handed to them in Afghanistan, has to resort to using thermobaric weapons against little Chechnia.
Israel? One of the best. I'll give them that.
We invest a lot of money, but more in top of the notch, best equipment, than training.

Germans make good soldiers, but at the current moment, they have a small army.

Wrong the history channel (in US) claimed that the US army trained the army so good that they cant do a single simple reconassance mission because of how they are trained. They rely on PMCs which are clearly the best trained.

Since you said country and PMCs are privatly owned the order should be
Germany (You'll get killed before you noticed. Superior tech and tatics make the world go round)
Russia (Kill yourselves to kill your enemy. Did i mention you're in Siberia comrad?)
Isreal (They refuse to surrender and probably the best nonEuro army)
The Germans are good, even today, the Russians depend on mass assaults (even now), but among those three, the Israelis are clearly the best.

My Bad. I get Russia and USSR confused sometimes.

Its almost the same thing. The soviets were "meaner" though under stalin. US got back by not allowing the Kremier or councellor or who ever he was to disney land on his last day in the US

All the training in the world isn't worth a damn unless you actually put the troops into combat. All the training in the world don't mean a damn only winning does. This is war, not a game. nah nah nah nah nah we're better than you is just child like playground nonsense.

Israel is winning against 1-10 odds, only because Palestinian's army's idea of training is give a guy an AK-47 and show him where the trigger is.

Now you're just making stuff up. Tell me you're not serious.
Huns are considered german although they were from asia
Huns were a Mongolian tribe. The Romans and Germans (Visigoths) allied to fight off the Huns.

The V2 was used as a space ship after the war. All you need to do is take out the war head and add in a cockpit and tweak it a lil more.
Uh, it's not nearly that simple.

The germans were repelled by Britain and they arrived to close to winter to do any good
So why'd you say Germany devastated Britain? German forces never got there to begin with.

Bombers my friend and subs cant forget subs
Yes they went to war with Nap with Russia and GB, not the III but the I, the III they went alone.
In Napoleon I's time there was no such thing as Germany. There were German states like Prussia and Bavaria. All the German states allied with Russia and GB against France.

The Germans are good, even today, the Russians depend on mass assaults (even now), but among those three, the Israelis are clearly the best.

For the best army follow accordingly

Get the Russians
Mix in German tech
Add a dash of Israelian tatics
Sprinkle with chocolate
Bake for twenty minutes or it passes the toothpick test

Bullshit. US troops get more realistic training than almost any other country. They shoot more rounds in training than almost any other country. Anyone who knows anything about military matters knows that. Also they're very well led by their officers, perhaps not so well led by the civilian politicians.


HELL YA!!!!! US troops are the best trained in the world!!
And they kick the most ass.

We invest a lot of money, but more in top of the notch, best equipment, than training.

Germans make good soldiers, but at the current moment, they have a small army.
We invest plenty in training. Like I said earlier, look up OPFOR at Ft. Irwin California.

Huns are considered german although they were from asia
The V2 was used as a space ship after the war. All you need to do is take out the war head and add in a cockpit and tweak it a lil more.
The germans were repelled by Britain and they arrived to close to winter to do any good
Bombers my friend and subs cant forget subs
Yes they went to war with Nap with Russia and GB, not the III but the I, the III they went alone.
Huns were Huns, not Germans.
The V2 was not an orbital or even a sub-orbital device, thus not a spacecraft.

Let them crow all they want about how much the US military sucks.

We'll just keep on training, equiping, and maintaining the best military in the world :D.

For the best army follow accordingly

Get the Russians
Mix in German tech
Add a dash of Israelian tatics
Sprinkle with chocolate
Bake for twenty minutes or it passes the toothpick test
American technology is superior to germany. And choclate gives soldiers away with the smell

Let them crow all they want about how much the US military sucks.

We'll just keep on training, equiping, and maintaining the best military in the world :D.
And slowly conque... er bringing democracy into it. :P (JK)

Let them crow all they want about how much the US military sucks.

We'll just keep on training, equiping, and maintaining the best military in the world :D.
It's part of our plan. We let them misunderestimate (thank you W for the new word) us, then we take their military appart in a week's time.

Israel is winning against 1-10 odds, only because Palestinian's army's idea of training is give a guy an AK-47 and show him where the trigger is.

Palestine has and army? More like militia. A complete lack of training is a different keetle of fish.

IDF.

China should be a poll choice too. People have a conception that the PLA is poorly trained and only relies on strength of numbers, but do remember that China defeated India in war in 1963, and nowadays the chinese government is investing huge amounts of resources in upgrading skills and equipment.

I'm definitely going to say china, simply because they have access to more resources, along with having by far the most people.

Now you're just making stuff up. Tell me you're not serious.

Huns were a Mongolian tribe. The Romans and Germans (Visigoths) allied to fight off the Huns.


Uh, it's not nearly that simple.

So why'd you say Germany devastated Britain? German forces never got there to begin with.

In Napoleon I's time there was no such thing as Germany. There were German states like Prussia and Bavaria. All the German states allied with Russia and GB against France.

Huns came from asia like the mongolians but that doesnt make them mongolians. They settled in either Germany(now) or turkey i heard both stated.
The Britains had warnings that said things like Be Prepared for the Blackout, why because german airplanes were destroying them and the airforce of GB wasnt to good
HRE (Palmer's History of the modern world or something refers to it as Germany) was a land expression like Italy during the same time. Germany turned into the HRE which split apart into places like Austria, Bavaria, Bradenburg, I think savoy was one but that was also who united italy hmm, and Austria turned into Austro-Hungary and Prussia united the german states after the Franco-Prussian war, WW1 took several areas away to make new countries like the czechs, WW2 got land back but not as much as under Bismark or Kaiser II

I'm definitely going to say china, simply because they have access to more resources, along with having by far the most people.
China? They can't project force outside their borders. Their aircraft are for shit compared to US and European planes. China's a paper tiger, for now.

I'm definitely going to say china, simply because they have access to more resources, along with having by far the most people.
They mainly have an infantry.

I'm definitely going to say china, simply because they have access to more resources, along with having by far the most people.
If Poland, Pakistan, and India are on the poll, China definitely should be on the poll. But that doesn't mean China has the #1 best trained force in the world. China actually has major resource shortages (oil, etc). At this point I think China's soldiers are not as good as American ones, but they are working on it.

I would agree that the American army is the best trained, and that they have the best technology... unfortunately, due to imcompetence of the civilian leadership, they are also lacking in equipment. It's no good having good technology if no one gets to use it.

Consider:

Only 5,910 of the 19,584 Humvees U.S. troops in Iraq today depend upon are protected with factory-installed armor;
8,002 of the 9,128 medium and heavyweight trucks transporting soldiers and supplies in that war zone are without armor.

WTF?

In Napoleon I's time there was no such thing as Germany. There were German states like Prussia and Bavaria. All the German states allied with Russia and GB against France.
There was the concept of Germany back then (Albrecht Durer referred to Germany back in the 1500s), and possibly a German Nation (i.e. the First Reich), but no German country.

My order goes like this:
Russia (very good tactical soldiers, when led well)
United States (great tech, good training)
Israel (Just for respect that they have held off countries much bigger then them)
Germany (great special ops, but i doubt we will ever see them in action)
Australia (awesome snipers, in my opinion)

My order goes like this:
Russia (very good tactical soldiers, when led well)
United States (great tech, good training)
Israel (Just for respect that they have held off countries much bigger then them)
Germany (great special ops, but i doubt we will ever see them in action)
Australia (awesome snipers, in my opinion)
The Australians are superb and do a lot with a comparative little.

American technology is superior to germany. And choclate gives soldiers away with the smell

American Tech was originally found by Nazi Germany near the end of the war such as the Stealth bomber which was made but failed due to the tech at the time. Also the nuke was being developed in germany first. The V2 led to space exploration and Germany had superior tanks

Chocolate doesnt give away the smell. It turns them into chocolate men which bullet holes wont effect but the weather is a problem

American Tech was originally found by Nazi Germany near the end of the war such as the Stealth bomber which was made but failed due to the tech at the time. Also the nuke was being developed in germany first. The V2 led to space exploration and Germany had superior tanks


So what? Aren't we comparing present day militaries?

Also the nuke was being developed in germany first.

Yeah, but look who finished developing it first. :) thats what really matters.

You were definately right about the better tanks part though.

Dude, you think the US military is poorly trained? Look up OPFOR at Ft. Irwin California and tell me any other nation in the world invests that much in training their armor troops.

Germany? Too small of an army, technology isn't as good as the US, less training.
Russia? Got their ass handed to them in Afghanistan, has to resort to using thermobaric weapons against little Chechnia.
Israel? One of the best. I'll give them that.

I never said the US army was poorly trained, I said that the history channel, that is channel 47, had an army person who said that they trained the army to good.

US tech such as the nuke stealth bomber and others were developed by germany and germany had superior tanks.

Huns came from asia like the mongolians but that doesnt make them mongolians.
Huns are just huns. A Mongolian tribe out of many Mongolian tribes. They were from Mongolia and spoke a Mongolian language. They are not Germans. The Huns were defeated by the German general Aetius at the Battle of Chalons.

They settled in either Germany(now) or turkey i heard both stated.
The Huns returned east after being defeated. Not many Huns settled down in Europe.

The Britains had warnings that said things like Be Prepared for the Blackout, why because german airplanes were destroying them and the airforce of GB wasnt to good
The German air force was totally defeated by the British royal air force during the Battle of Britain. Operation Sea Lion (invasion of Britain) was a pipe dream.

HRE (Palmer's History of the modern world or something refers to it as Germany) was a land expression like Italy during the same time. Germany turned into the HRE which split apart into places like Austria, Bavaria, Bradenburg, I think savoy was one but that was also who united italy hmm, and Austria turned into Austro-Hungary and Prussia united the german states after the Franco-Prussian war, WW1 took several areas away to make new countries like the czechs, WW2 got land back but not as much as under Bismark or Kaiser II
Napoleon I ended the HRE and formed the Rhineland Confederacy, which quickly disintegrated after France was defeated by GB + Prussia + Austria + Russia. There was no unified German nation.

You are very confused.

"The V2 led to space exploration and Germany had superior tanks"

Drunk Commies, I assume you mean between Germany and The US and you arent including the T-80?

"The V2 led to space exploration and Germany had superior tanks"

Drunk Commies, I assume you mean between Germany and The US and you arent including the T-80?
The above quote isn't mine. Also aren't tanks with the "T" designation Russian?

So what? Aren't we comparing present day militaries?

That was 60 years ago, who knows what germany is secretly developing now, the are probably going to build the Antimatter bomb before the airforce if the airforce continues investing in that

Ah yes, Jibea that was for you.

Yes i was refering to the Soviet Tank.

Well, today it's clear that in a war, American would whip anyone's ass. even if they didn't use nuclear/biological/chemical weapons.

That was 60 years ago, who knows what germany is secretly developing now, the are probably going to build the Antimatter bomb before the airforce if the airforce continues investing in that
Their military budget is so low that they can't be developing anything high tech. Their next military innovation will probably be the crossbow.

Huns are just huns. A Mongolian tribe out of many Mongolian tribes. They were from Mongolia and spoke a Mongolian language. They are not Germans. The Huns were defeated by the German general Aetius at the Battle of Chalons.


The Huns returned east after being defeated. Not many Huns settled down in Europe.


The German air force was totally defeated by the British royal air force during the Battle of Britain. Operation Sea Lion (invasion of Britain) was a pipe dream.


Napoleon I ended the HRE and formed the Rhineland Confederacy, which quickly disintegrated after France was defeated by GB + Prussia + Austria + Russia. There was no unified German nation.

You are very confused.

When i talk about ununified germany i mean the big states Prussia and Austria.
The British army was devestated by germany in WW2.
As I said before, the huns were from asia who moved to germany or turkey (I read from one account Germany and another Turkey) They were also considered german barbarians(based on which source)

Their military budget is so low that they can't be developing anything high tech. Their next military innovation will probably be the crossbow.

Is that what you think, because that is what europe and america thought right before WW2.

BTW, Israel got this really hot tank now. I saw a special on it. It's got a few onboard computers, awesome aim (shot 4/4 moving targets, which is very hard on a tank). I forgot the name right now, I think it starts with an 'M'.

Ah yes, Jibea that was for you.

Yes i was refering to the Soviet Tank.

Tigers were considered the best at the time. I never heard of a Russian tank during WW2, I heard American, German, Japanese and the russian and british were on the lend lease program with america for tanks and other war vehicles/supplies

Is that what you think, because that is what europe and america thought right before WW2.
Yeah, that's exactly what I think. Germans have lost the will to be a great military nation. They don't want to spend money on weapons, they spend it on welfare programs. Not that I'm against welfare programs mind you.

USA. More troops, tanks, planes and ships than most countries, better trained personell than almost any country, more advanced technology than any nation. The US military kicks ass.

give me a break. they rely everything on their technological weapons. if it was just plain soldiers, they would be slaughtered.

When i talk about ununified germany i mean the big states Prussia and Austria.
You originally claimed that during Napoleon I's reign "Germany" fought against France, GB, and Russia at the same time. THis is untrue. France fought against GB, Russia, Prussia, and Austria at the same time.

The British army was devestated by germany in WW2.
Not really, the British army didn't really fight the Germans much early in the war. The Brits stayed at Dunkirk during the German invasion of France and evacuated by boat back to England. 300,000 soldiers escaped to fight another day. By the time of D-Day the German armies were exhausted and the Brits returned to finish the job.

As I said before, the huns were from asia who moved to germany or turkey (I read from one account Germany and another Turkey)
They temporarily moved to Germany and tried to invade Rome, but failed. Most of the Huns then returned to Asia after this.

They were also considered german barbarians(based on which source)
Your source is incorrect. The Huns were never considered Germans. They've always been considered a Mongoloid tribe.

Tigers were considered the best at the time. I never heard of a Russian tank during WW2, I heard American, German, Japanese and the russian and british were on the lend lease program with america for tanks and other war vehicles/supplies
Russians had tanks. They weren't anything special, just regular tanks.

give me a break. they rely everything on their technological weapons. if it was just plain soldiers, they would be slaughtered.
Yes, and it works so well for us.

give me a break. they rely everything on their technological weapons. if it was just plain soldiers, they would be slaughtered.
What do you base that statement on? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

You're probably right Commies although if they had a new charismatic leader like Bismark or aldolf then europe would have trouble if germany gets back on military spending

NO i didnt go to the sites due to my laziness and explorer crashed

All euro nations are like that now.

And anyway back on the Amatter issue, it is not hard to harvest antimatter expensive based on techniques but not hard and they can hold it so it shouldnt be to hard to build a bomb off it but if they did you better run for if it was used well...

It is infered that about 50 milagrams (maybe something smaller) is equivalent to 4,706 lbs of dynamite (maybe there are 3 extra zeros i forgot where i found that) and Nasa calculated that 2 grams gets a spaceship to mars in 2 months (alot of power) but then again america (US) relies on PMCs

and that is why china is gonna really screw them up in the future. they are advancing very quickly. i'm guessing around 2040-2050, China will be superpower. they also will get the help of russia with it's missle technology. the US will crumble.

and that is why china is gonna really screw them up in the future. they are advancing very quickly. i'm guessing around 2040-2050, China will be superpower. they also will get the help of russia with it's missle technology. the US will crumble.
Yeah, we'll crumble. We'll be as helpless as the French.

Israel, they are constantly fighting in the West Bank, Gaza, etc. so they are the best experienced in terms of combat action.

Agreed. My vote goes with Israel too. Thier air force is probably the worlds best and pilot skills second to none. I'f you put US and IAF F-16s up against each other, all my money would go on Israel.

...And thats from someone who's American :p

You originally claimed that during Napoleon I's reign "Germany" fought against France, GB, and Russia at the same time. THis is untrue. France fought against GB, Russia, Prussia, and Austria at the same time.


Not really, the British army didn't really fight the Germans much early in the war. The Brits stayed at Dunkirk during the German invasion of France and evacuated by boat back to England. 300,000 soldiers escaped to fight another day. By the time of D-Day the German armies were exhausted and the Brits returned to finish the job.


They temporarily moved to Germany and tried to invade Rome, but failed. Most of the Huns then returned to Asia after this.


Your source is incorrect. The Huns were never considered Germans. They've always been considered a Mongoloid tribe.

Your first acusation, are you sure i said fought those three at the same time because it was france vs everyother one above.
D day was lost due to the French Resistance. It delayed german reinforcements by at least two hours because the germans got pissed and killed every living creature in that city and also blew it up.

Agreed. My vote goes with Israel too. Thier air force is probably the worlds best and pilot skills second to none. I'f you put US and IAF F-16s up against each other, all my money would go on Israel.

...And thats from someone who's American :p
What makes you think that? Plus it's the F-15s that do most of the air to air stuff, and it's not so much dogfighting anymore. They shoot missiles like phoenix at each other over the horizon.

and that is why china is gonna really screw them up in the future. they are advancing very quickly. i'm guessing around 2040-2050, China will be superpower. they also will get the help of russia with it's missle technology. the US will crumble.

Klash, China is a poor country that was almost fully taken over by japan in ww2 and was destroyed by japan in every other war i know they fought each other in.
Russia wouldnt be interested in helping china as they are part of the euro continent and as such are trying for global peace.

You are right, China is prognosed to be the next superpower, overshadowing even US.

As for antimatter, there exists aproximately 500 molecules of anti matter (well maybe more now, my information is 3 years old).
There are no techniques for developing Amatter quickly yet.

Tigers were considered the best at the time. I never heard of a Russian tank during WW2, I heard American, German, Japanese and the russian and british were on the lend lease program with america for tanks and other war vehicles/supplies
The Russian T-34 is generally considered to be the best all purpose tank during WWII. The German Marshal von Rundstedt called it the "best tank in the world."

http://www.2worldwar2.com/t-34-tank.htm

and that is why china is gonna really screw them up in the future. they are advancing very quickly. i'm guessing around 2040-2050, China will be superpower. they also will get the help of russia with it's missle technology. the US will crumble.

I sure as hell hope not, the US kinda sucks but they would make a chinese dominated world a happy fun land.

Klash, China is a poor country that was almost fully taken over by japan in ww2 and was destroyed by japan in every other war i know they fought each other in.
Russia wouldnt be interested in helping china as they are part of the euro continent and as such are trying for global peace.

for now they are a poor country. but they are industrializing very quickly. bush is an idiot. he's going after arab countries when china is gonna shoot the US in the back without US realizing.

for now they are a poor country. but they are industrializing very quickly. bush is an idiot. he's going after arab countries when china is gonna shoot the US in the back without US realizing.
What do you mean? How will China 'shoot the US in the back'? An invasion of California or something?

how could u forget about Germany. If you forgot they did take over most of Europe twice. And also Korea has an outstanding military. :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:

What do you mean? How will China 'shoot the US in the back'? An invasion of California or something?
Oh no! Roundeye discover ancient Chinese secret pran!

how could u forget about Germany. If you forgot they did take over most of Europe twice. And also Korea has an outstanding military. :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:
Germany has shit for a military nowadays. It's small and underfunded. Which Korea are you talking about?

A poor country China?...Considering it has I believe the 7th largest economy in the world you can't really call it a poor country...And also by the end of this year experts forsee it overtaking G.B and france in economic terms I guess you believe France and G.B are poor?...

What do you mean? How will China 'shoot the US in the back'? An invasion of California or something?

i meant their economy will increase substainally, then secretly they'll build up and one day you'll hear an invasion of US from china.

Your first acusation, are you sure i said fought those three at the same time because it was france vs everyother one above.
Here's your original statement:

"they [Germany]... defeated napolean along with russia and GB"


D day was lost due to the French Resistance. It delayed german reinforcements by at least two hours because the germans got pissed and killed every living creature in that city and also blew it up.
What city would that be? Anyways, the British army was never 'devastated' during WWII.

A poor country China?...Considering it has I believe the 7th largest economy in the world you can't really call it a poor country...And also by the end of this year experts forsee it overtaking G.B and france in economic terms I guess you believe France and G.B are poor?...
If you look at per capita GDP it's in the shitter, but getting better. On a military note it's improving, but still not there.
It spends a lower percentage of it's GDP on defense than the US does, and it's economy is smaller than ours.

for now they are a poor country. but they are industrializing very quickly. bush is an idiot. he's going after arab countries when china is gonna shoot the US in the back without US realizing.

I doubt U.S.A considers China not a threat.....Why do you think they are against the arms embargo and tech transfer and such?...Also why have the C.I.A posted information stating the big threat china poses..As well as the Taiwan strait..

i meant their economy will increase substainally, then secretly they'll build up and one day you'll hear an invasion of US from china.
Yeah, right. They'll invade one of their main trading partners who just happens to have the ability to turn much of the world into a radioactive wasteland. Nice job there Nostradamus.

What makes you think that? Plus it's the F-15s that do most of the air to air stuff, and it's not so much dogfighting anymore. They shoot missiles like phoenix at each other over the horizon.

I was just making a generalization. And I'm referenceing my ideals to past battles. I cant remember the war, but Israeli fighters shot down well over a hundred planes and didn't lose a single aircraft. Granted the US doesn't lose tons of planes every time there is a war, but a spotless record? I find that hard to believe.

If you look at per capita GDP it's in the shitter, but getting better. On a military note it's improving, but still not there.
It spends a lower percentage of it's GDP on defense than the US does, and it's economy is smaller than ours.

Oh i'm not saying it is on par with the U.S.A, of course that is a stupid assumption. And yes for the Lower working people the capita they recieve is not exactly great. And yes the recent military spending will become a threat, if it continues as the economy grows.

I'm just stateing that saying China is a third world shithole is a bit off. It's still not great, but you can't really compare it economically to something like North Korea.

I was just making a generalization. And I'm referenceing my ideals to past battles. I cant remember the war, but Israeli fighters shot down well over a hundred planes and didn't lose a single aircraft. Granted the US doesn't lose tons of planes every time there is a war, but a spotless record? I find that hard to believe.


werent they fighting egypt + syria lol ?

Oh i'm not saying it is on par with the U.S.A, of course that is a stupid assumption. And yes for the Lower working people the capita they recieve is not exactly great. And yes the recent military spending will become a threat, if it continues as the economy grows.

I'm just stateing that saying China is a third world shithole is a bit off. It's still not great, but you can't really compare it economically to something like North Korea.
True, China's on the rise.

Parts of China are as shitty as the worst African 3rd world countries. AIDS, poverty, etc. Other parts of China are meh, and the coastal cities are about the same as any American city in terms of standard of living. People earn less, but stuff in China is extremely inexpensive so people can still live well.

werent they fighting egypt + syria lol ?
Yeah, they were shooting down what? Outdated Soviet aircraft? And doing it with US aircraft.

True, China's on the rise.

Its now in U.S.A's court. What will they do about its rise..?..I suspect political warfare..And maybe military too...Who knows?

Yeah, right. They'll invade one of their main trading partners who just happens to have the ability to turn much of the world into a radioactive wasteland. Nice job there Nostradamus.

haha. that is what americans are.. stubborn. they live in their own world thinking that US is best and will always be. typical american, drunk commies. and how can u predict their war plans? in WW||, they were sure japan would invade austriallia, but guess what.. navy at pearl harbor was devasted!!!

haha. that is what americans are.. stubborn. they live in their own world thinking that US is best and will always be. typical american, drunk commies. and how can u predict their war plans? in WW||, they were sure japan would invade austriallia, but guess what.. navy at pearl harbor was devasted!!!
You can predict that no nation will willingly commit suicide. Invading a true nuclear power, one that has strategic nuclear warheads and the ability to put them into enemy targets within a matter of minutes, just isn't done. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

You can predict that no nation will willingly commit suicide. Invading a true nuclear power, one that has strategic nuclear warheads and the ability to put them into enemy targets within a matter of minutes, just isn't done. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

then it will be nuclear war, and china + russia nukes numbers are much higher than US missiles. plus, their is a sure chance that if china did invade US they first would try to blow up a nuke secretly. not talking about a missile, like a bomb inside many cities throughout US, when they least expect it.

haha. that is what americans are.. stubborn. they live in their own world thinking that US is best and will always be. typical american, drunk commies. and how can u predict their war plans? in WW||, they were sure japan would invade austriallia, but guess what.. navy at pearl harbor was devasted!!!

And then soon after that, every major battle fought was won by the U.S.A. The Chinese may eventually attack. But they are likely not stupid and will not attack for a while. Why attack them now when U.S.A's budget deficit is huge, while China is on the up and in 15-20 years time they will become a most likely stronger nation, in all senses.

Unless something amazingly goes wrong economically or diplomatically.

then it will be nuclear war, and china + russia nukes numbers are much higher than US missiles. plus, their is a sure chance that if china did invade US they first would try to blow up a nuke secretly. not talking about a missile, like a bomb inside many cities throughout US, when they least expect it.
Why the fuck would Russia back China in a nuclear war vs. the US? They could sit back and watch, then take over whatever parts of China don't glow in the dark. You really don't know what you're talking about.

then it will be nuclear war, and china + russia nukes numbers are much higher than US missiles. plus, their is a sure chance that if china did invade US they first would try to blow up a nuke secretly. not talking about a missile, like a bomb inside many cities throughout US, when they least expect it.

A simple saying an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, the world would be blind and toothless.

Unless China crush U.S.A in the first round of missle attacks, they will also become a wasteland. It is also political/economic suicide.

And then soon after that, every major battle fought was won by the U.S.A. The Chinese may eventually attack. But they are likely not stupid and will not attack for a while. Why attack them now when U.S.A's budget deficit is huge, while China is on the up and in 15-20 years time they will become a most likely stronger nation, in all senses.

Unless something amazingly goes wrong economically or diplomatically.

"every major battle fought was won by the U.S.A." - again, another typical stubborn american. "
Unless something amazingly goes wrong economically or diplomatically." - who knows, some very amazing things have happended throughout history. and does anyone know why Russia, japan and other presidents want bush in office? it's because he is sending soldiers to arab countries and making defecit larger thus weakening US.

Why the fuck would Russia back China in a nuclear war vs. the US? They could sit back and watch, then take over whatever parts of China don't glow in the dark. You really don't know what you're talking about.

Quite true. That is the perfect scenario for someone like Russia. Two birds dead in one stone.

Quite true. That is the perfect scenario for someone like Russia. Two birds dead in one stone.

russia and china have closer ties than stubborn americans may think. that's another thing stubborn americans do, underestimate.

Quite true. That is the perfect scenario for someone like Russia. Two birds dead in one stone.
I agree. That Klashonite guy must be like 12 years old or something with the bullshit he's spewing.

I agree. That Klashonite guy must be like 12 years old or something with the bullshit he's spewing.

12 years old?? HAHAHAHAHA! i won't even try to argue with a stubborn americain on that. he comes up with these crazy beliefs.

"every major battle fought was won by the U.S.A." - again, another typical stubborn american. "
Unless something amazingly goes wrong economically or diplomatically." - who knows, some very amazing things have happended throughout history. and does anyone know why Russia, japan and other presidents want bush in office? it's because he is sending soldiers to arab countries and making defecit larger thus weakening US.

First of all I am not American, just a person who likes to see both sides of the story.A simple saying is that when the enemy is at there strongest, run away. Whereas when they are at there weakest, hit them hard.

So basically currently nobody can take on or invade the U.S for a very long time. Unless W.M.D are used, which as mentioned would be very difficult to have your own country utterly destroyed. Therefore the best way is to destroy them economically or diplomatically. Either by Isolating them from their allies, or trying to weaken there economy further by various methods.

"every major battle fought was won by the U.S.A." - again, another typical stubborn american. "
Unless something amazingly goes wrong economically or diplomatically." - who knows, some very amazing things have happended throughout history. and does anyone know why Russia, japan and other presidents want bush in office? it's because he is sending soldiers to arab countries and making defecit larger thus weakening US.
Japan has the world's largest debt. The Japanese debt is out of control, due to corruption, redundant construction projects, and other useless spending. China and Russia also have enormous national debts, and every year China posts larger and larger budget deficits. The fact that all the industrial countries have large debts may help promote peace, because all the countries lend to each other, leading to greater economic interdependence. A war between superpowers would destabilize the world economy, so no one would want war.

I agree. That Klashonite guy must be like 12 years old or something with the bullshit he's spewing.

True...He seems to be under the bunch that think America is utterly evil and must die...As well as thinking that they are crap..


And klashonite, just because Russia supplies most of the arms and tech to china, doesn't mean they will support them. I am pretty sure that they would rather have a russian occupied China, then a battle that will ruin there growing economy.

United States.

We have good training, good leaders, the best equipment, the most money to spend, the best airforce, the best navy, and almost the best infantry(the Brits are better grunts).

I'm surprised this thread creator is so biased towards the U.S. he didn't put it on the poll. At least in my threads, I put the side that I disagree with...

Japan has the world's largest debt. The Japanese debt is out of control, due to corruption, redundant construction projects, and other useless spending. China and Russia also have enormous national debts, and every year China posts larger and larger budget deficits. The fact that all the industrial countries have large debts may help promote peace, because all the countries lend to each other, leading to greater economic interdependence. A war between superpowers would destabilize the world economy, so no one would want war.

Couldn't have put it any better...

No, it's because I attended Sandhurst and I know my militaries. Diddums thinks if america comes out badly, it must be anti-american conspiracy! OH NO

Ok you attend a Government controlled School and you think they are not biased? lol come back when you grow a brain and think for yourself.

As far as best trained I would pick the Cubans over anyone on that list.

Ok you attend a Government controlled School and you think they are not biased? lol come back when you grow a brain and think for yourself.

As far as best trained I would pick the Cubans over anyone on that list.

Why's that? Can you elaborate...?

Ok you attend a Government controlled School and you think they are not biased? lol come back when you grow a brain and think for yourself.

As far as best trained I would pick the Cubans over anyone on that list.

O_O.

You would pick a bunch of conscripted, poorly armed, cuban farmers as the best trained?

Man, Castro can't even feed alot of 'em!

two more stubborn americans.

US must be destroyed. it is the head of the "Axis of evil". they knew that the big tsumani was coming but they didn't warn anybody cause they don't give a damn about the southeastern people.

two more stubborn americans.

US must be destroyed. it is the head of the "Axis of evil". they knew that the big tsumani was coming but they didn't warn anybody cause they don't give a damn about the southeastern people.
Actually we sent the tsunami. We needed to test out our new seizmic weapons on a populated area to make sure they'll eradicate enough brown undesirables. :rolleyes: BTW, where do you live? We're planning another test.

Why's that? Can you elaborate...?


Sure because I think when offered food and water a Cuban would out fight any European. :D

Actually we sent the tsunami. We needed to test out our new seizmic weapons on a populated area to make sure they'll eradicate enough brown undesirables. :rolleyes: BTW, where do you live? We're planning another test.

i live wherever you live stubborn americain.

two more stubborn americans.

US must be destroyed. it is the head of the "Axis of evil". they knew that the big tsumani was coming but they didn't warn anybody cause they don't give a damn about the southeastern people.

God, you are friggen insane!(Not to mention, j00 are a troll).

The United States has some flaws, certainly. It has alot of flaws. But, if you didn't notice, we give a lot of humanitarian aide to almost all countries(except for already developed ones, of course). We are not evil, and no other country is(although a few have not-so-nice leaders).

And hey, I'm just looking at the facts, not propaganda. Once you become level headed, you'll see I am right.

Of course, the British grunt is better trained than the American grunt. The Brit's don't have to train and maintain over 600,000 soldiers :).

Sure because I think when offered food and water a Cuban would out fight any European. :D

People also claim that Cuba doesn't have a Navy. Hog-wash! The Cubans are some of the most creative ship-builders around. If Castro ordered it, a navy could be made overnight. It would be made up of floating cars, tin-can's with fans on them, and many other cheap and ingenious vehicles :).

O_O.

You would pick a bunch of conscripted, poorly armed, cuban farmers as the best trained?

Man, Castro can't even feed alot of 'em!

To be fair to Castro, he is what held Cuba together during the sticky period when the U.S.S.R collapsed. I mean recently Cuba's economy has improved a lot from the era when it looked like a political collapse was imminent.

To be fair I really think the majority of the Cuban people admire him as a great leader. As if they didn't the bay of pigs would have worked and Fidel would have been shot by now.

And Klashonite, please unless your going to be sensible, cut the Anti-American crap. And yes considering they helped with a massive relief effort, as well as contributing huge amounts of money I doubt they don't care. If they didn't care at all, they would have annexed all the nations for protection purposes.

People also claim that Cuba doesn't have a Navy. Hog-wash! The Cubans are some of the most creative ship-builders around. If Castro ordered it, a navy could be made overnight. It would be made up of floating cars, tin-can's with fans on them, and many other cheap and ingenious vehicles :).


Of course how can you stand against a 1957 Chevy in mint condition on pontoons! I couldn't bring myself to shoot at it till it was to late for me and my multi billion dollar navy

God, you are friggen insane!(Not to mention, j00 are a troll).

The United States has some flaws, certainly. It has alot of flaws. But, if you didn't notice, we give a lot of humanitarian aide to almost all countries(except for already developed ones, of course). We are not evil, and no other country is(although a few have not-so-nice leaders).

And hey, I'm just looking at the facts, not propaganda. Once you become level headed, you'll see I am right.

Of course, the British grunt is better trained than the American grunt. The Brit's don't have to train and maintain over 600,000 soldiers :).

a lot of humaritain aid? the us gov't gave the lowest humanitarian aid to the tsunami effort, stubborn americain. and plus, it's normal for a stubborn americain to repel any of the criticism they get. like that woman who got shot by a us soldier on purpose as reported and the military came up with all these lame excuses. US has no heart and must be conquered.

Sure because I think when offered food and water a Cuban would out fight any European. :D
:p Indeed perhaps true....

Very poorly trained and poorly led though, and a shocking intelligence agency to provide bad info. ;)
I won't disagree with the poor intel [I agree with you there] and I won't disagree with the poorly led [Most of my Non-marine friends who are in the military will complain about their leaders]...but our troops are anything except poorly trained. I wouldn't say they are the best trained, but probably the best military as a whole.

IMO, the British military training is the best.

I'm also a pretty big fan of the Swiss army...not cuz they are the strongest...I just doo.

a lot of humaritain aid? the us gov't gave the lowest humanitarian aid to the tsunami effort, stubborn americain. and plus, it's normal for a stubborn americain to repel any of the criticism they get. like that woman who got shot by a us soldier on purpose as reported and the military came up with all these lame excuses. US has no heart and must be conquered.

...

My words went In one ear and out the other, eh?

Oh, and for the record, the U.S. gave the most aide.

Of course, you will say "that is the propaganda by t3h evil american government which must be destoryedOMFGLOL!!!111!!!!!!11!1wtf!!!!1!1!"

a lot of humaritain aid? the us gov't gave the lowest humanitarian aid to the tsunami effort, stubborn americain. and plus, it's normal for a stubborn americain to repel any of the criticism they get. like that woman who got shot by a us soldier on purpose as reported and the military came up with all these lame excuses. US has no heart and must be conquered.

Hmm they did eh? over 300 mil by the Government and 550 million was the last figure I heard from the Citizens. Seriously you should get your head ouf of your posturier and stop farting for life support. Might clear a few things for you. Of course you are free to come to Michigan and try to conquer my friends and I. You might of heard of a little thing called the Michigan Militia. if not do a search for it, we will be waiting for you and any others that feel the need to invade our homes.

I won't disagree with the poor intel [I agree with you there] and I won't disagree with the poorly led [Most of my Non-marine friends who are in the military will complain about their leaders]...but our troops are anything except poorly trained. I wouldn't say they are the best trained, but probably the best military as a whole.

IMO, the British military training is the best.

I'm also a pretty big fan of the Swiss army...not cuz they are the strongest...I just doo.

Originally Posted by Botrosox
Very poorly trained and poorly led though, and a shocking intelligence agency to provide bad info.

US military is poorly trained. the car companies can't even create a good car. LOL, FORD RECALLED SO MANY EXPLORERS CAUSE THEY WERE CATCHING ON FIRE, NOW GET THIS WHEN THEY WERE TURNED OFF!!! NOT ON. LOL LOL
LOL bunch of slackers

Hmm they did eh? over 300 mil by the Government and 550 million was the last figure I heard from the Citizens. Seriously you should get your head ouf of your posturier and stop farting for life support. Might clear a few things for you. Of course you are free to come to Michigan and try to conquer my friends and I. You might of heard of a little thing called the Michigan Militia. if not do a search for it, we will be waiting for you and any others that feel the need to invade our homes.

Germany gave 600 mill in their first pledge not 100th or something. which is very sad.

Although there's sure to be a biased amongst the largely American player base, which military is the best in the world? I'll cram as many into the poll as I can but suggest another if you will. I'm going to put those on the poll which my training and experiences at Sandhurst have taught me, and from what I know from a country's history (I'm a military historian) and its current situation.

Have fun :P

Being that america isnt on the list im going with the u.k. then israel because idk russia doesnt seem like it was. and they ( the israelis ) got alot of enemies

Very poorly trained and poorly led though, and a shocking intelligence agency to provide bad info. ;)

say that to a marine

on the nuclear war, so what if china uses russian nukes, get them on the russian black market for cheap prices ha ha ha.

Now seriously if the airforce actually starts building antimatter based bombs then nukes would be a thing of the past

Bullshit. US troops get more realistic training than almost any other country. They shoot more rounds in training than almost any other country. Anyone who knows anything about military matters knows that. Also they're very well led by their officers, perhaps not so well led by the civilian politicians.The american army is made up of high school dropouts

The British contanstly fight the IRA, and have troops all over the COmmonwealth looking out for people. It's not quite as intense, but combined with rigorous training I believe you get a better soldier at the end.

thats not true they have been at a ceasefire for awhile

say that to a marine

marines are made up of high-school dropouts and one's that couldn't even get into a community college.

The american army is made up of high school dropouts

again i must say : say that to a marine

The american army is made up of high school dropouts

LOL. you posted that right before me, almost same time. right on hildish!

two more stubborn americans.

US must be destroyed. it is the head of the "Axis of evil". they knew that the big tsumani was coming but they didn't warn anybody cause they don't give a damn about the southeastern people.


Hey genius, I'm gonna give you a basic geology lesson...YOU CAN'T PREDICT EARTHQUAKES!!!!! Plus, there was no detection system in place. You can't warn against what you don't know!! Besides, these tsunamis are relatively rare occurances.

You are a coward to hide behind words such as those you have said. You can say "destroy the US" all you like, and you can slander our name all you want, but when it comes time to put action where your mouth is, you cowar and run away. We were hit with the 9/11 incident, but see that even now we are rebuilding, and we will do so each time we are hit. And then we'll retaliate. So spew your trash all you want, but if you want to be taken seriously and prove you're not a coward,then I suggest you start attacking.

So go ahead, make the mistake that England, Japan, Afghanastan, Mexico, and Germany have all made. You'll wind up with them all, uterly beaten and defeated.

marines are made up of high-school dropouts and one's that couldn't even get into a community college.

you arnt american and obviously dont know that you cant be a marine unless you have passed highschool

Yeah, they were shooting down what? Outdated Soviet aircraft? And doing it with US aircraft.
Actually, what was then modern US aircraft, and don't forget the Americans had trouble shooting down outdated Soviet aircraft in Vietnam due to a lack of training, hence Top Gun (not the idiot movie).

again i must say : say that to a marine
yes but most of the army is the marines are only a small part. At least in Canada and i think the UK you need a highschool or secondary school diploma.

Hey genius, I'm gonna give you a basic geology lesson...YOU CAN'T PREDICT EARTHQUAKES!!!!! Plus, there was no detection system in place. You can't warn against what you don't know!! Besides, these tsunamis are relatively rare occurances.

You are a coward to hide behind words such as those you have said. You can say "destroy the US" all you like, and you can slander our name all you want, but when it comes time to put action where your mouth is, you cowar and run away. We were hit with the 9/11 incident, but see that even now we are rebuilding, and we will do so each time we are hit. And then we'll retaliate. So spew your trash all you want, but if you want to be taken seriously and prove you're not a coward,then I suggest you start attacking.

So go ahead, make the mistake that England, Japan, Afghanastan, Mexico, and Germany have all made. You'll wind up with the them all, uterly beaten and defeated. hey you fucking dick 9/11 was not bad at all compared to what those countries have gone through in the past.. England has had to deal with the IRA for a long time, fuck man the whole of fucking manchester was flattened.

LOL. you posted that right before me, almost same time. right on hildish!
Long live Klashonite!

Klash is american, born and raised how i know because i know him.

NOW listen america's army is built up of high school drop outs, and the smartest people in america.

NOW DONT CALL IT AMERICA IF YOU MEAN USA IT OFFENDS CANADA, MEXICO, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, AND OTHERS I DONT KNOW THAT ARE IN THE SAME AREA

Italians call US people statiunitici or something i really cant spell but it literally translates into UNITED STATIANS which i am content with

I would say that marines are dropouts in ones face because i can sue and its called assault and battery with a deadly weapon (Unless he hits flesh against flesh even if he hits my shirt it is with a deadly weapon)

hey you fucking dick 9/11 was not bad at all compared to what those countries have gone through in the past.. England has had to deal with the IRA for a long time, fuck man the whole of fucking manchester was flattened.

Hmmm...let's see....oh yes, War of 1812, I do believe that Washington was razed. And one can't forget Pearl Harbor. We have no other experience because we defend ourselves BEFORE the enemy can reach us. Also, everyone else is to scared to attack us because our desire of revenge.

And would you please cut out the language here? It's unneccessary.

The U.S. is a modern day Roman Empire and will mess up anything that opposes it. thats why its not on the list , its already known to be the best. this is more about who is the second best

NOW DONT CALL IT AMERICA IF YOU MEAN USA IT OFFENDS CANADA, MEXICO, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, AND OTHERS I DONT KNOW THAT ARE IN THE SAME AREA

Ohh, they're not important. Fox News told me so, and they always tell the truth :rolleyes:

Hey genius, I'm gonna give you a basic geology lesson...YOU CAN'T PREDICT EARTHQUAKES!!!!! Plus, there was no detection system in place. You can't warn against what you don't know!! Besides, these tsunamis are relatively rare occurances.

You are a coward to hide behind words such as those you have said. You can say "destroy the US" all you like, and you can slander our name all you want, but when it comes time to put action where your mouth is, you cowar and run away. We were hit with the 9/11 incident, but see that even now we are rebuilding, and we will do so each time we are hit. And then we'll retaliate. So spew your trash all you want, but if you want to be taken seriously and prove you're not a coward,then I suggest you start attacking.

So go ahead, make the mistake that England, Japan, Afghanastan, Mexico, and Germany have all made. You'll wind up with them all, uterly beaten and defeated.

Instead of rebuilding why dont we just add sam sites or other AA weapons around all important cities such as NYC, DC already has some, Los Angelis, Vegas and thats all i know

I read the entire post and commented on the most relevant part. The US Army has decent military technology, but often the troops are not competently trained enough to use that equipment to its fullest capacity. The Israelis and the British are, and Israeli military technology, whether homegrown or imported, is often equal to that of the US.

Decent technology? Excuse me, the US has the best military technology in the world. The American military budget is $255 billion, China is second with $60 billion.

No other military technology can compare with America's.

And US soldiers are better trained than any other in the world. Iraq proves that. You know that the US has the fifth largest in the world right? Iraq had the 6th largest. The Iraqi military crumbled in only a few weaks.

What does that say about the American military?

No other nation in the world could have successfuly invaded and occupied Iraq. And the US only took 1500 casualties in the two years of occupation.

Says something about the quality of American troops. You can deny it all you want but the American military is the best. By the way your Canadian "military" is smaller than the NYPD.

Instead of rebuilding why dont we just add sam sites or other AA weapons around all important cities such as NYC, DC already has some, Los Angelis, Vegas and thats all i know

Though an excellent form of protection, they only make us seem bloodthirsty. I myself am actually a pacifist. However, I don't tollerate verble or physical attacks on my homeland. It would give us a false image.

yes but most of the army is the marines are only a small part. At least in Canada and i think the UK you need a highschool or secondary school diploma.

the marines are not part of the army , they are part of the navy

hey you fucking dick 9/11 was not bad at all compared to what those countries have gone through in the past.. England has had to deal with the IRA for a long time, fuck man the whole of fucking manchester was flattened.

let us not forget cromwell

Hmmm...let's see....oh yes, War of 1812, I do believe that Washington was razed. And one can't forget Pearl Harbor. We have no other experience because we defend ourselves BEFORE the enemy can reach us. Also, everyone else is to scared to attack us because our desire of revenge.

And would you please cut out the language here? It's unneccessary.

sorry about the language, but hearing you say that all those countries pissed me off so you should apologize as well. England: 100 years war, Battle of Britain, crusade.. i will go on if you want
Canada: Passchendael (spelling?), Ypres, Vimy Ridge, Dieppe, Liberation of Holland.

let us not forget cromwell
definately

Instead of rebuilding why dont we just add sam sites or other AA weapons around all important cities such as NYC, DC already has some, Los Angelis, Vegas and thats all i know

when they get shot down where are they to land?

Hey genius, I'm gonna give you a basic geology lesson...YOU CAN'T PREDICT EARTHQUAKES!!!!! Plus, there was no detection system in place. You can't warn against what you don't know!! Besides, these tsunamis are relatively rare occurances.

You are a coward to hide behind words such as those you have said. You can say "destroy the US" all you like, and you can slander our name all you want, but when it comes time to put action where your mouth is, you cowar and run away. We were hit with the 9/11 incident, but see that even now we are rebuilding, and we will do so each time we are hit. And then we'll retaliate. So spew your trash all you want, but if you want to be taken seriously and prove you're not a coward,then I suggest you start attacking.

So go ahead, make the mistake that England, Japan, Afghanastan, Mexico, and Germany have all made. You'll wind up with them all, uterly beaten and defeated.

i never said about predicting any earthquakes. i said that the US satellites picked up a distrubance in the water flow in SE asia and they did squat about it. and also, i am .000000000000000000001% americain and the only reason for that is cause i was born here.

Though an excellent form of protection, they only make us seem bloodthirsty. I myself am actually a pacifist. However, I don't tollerate verble or physical attacks on my homeland. It would give us a false image.
How would it make us seem blood thirsty

And if germany never decreased its military budget it would be the best but alas can not change that. Oh well at least it seems europe is going to be peaceful.

i never said about predicting any earthquakes. i said that the US satellites picked up a distrubance in the water flow in SE asia and they did squat about it. and also, i am .000000000000000000001% americain and the only reason for that is cause i was born here.

Let me ask you a question, do you know the average height of a tsunami in open ocean?

Says something about the quality of American troops. You can deny it all you want but the American military is the best. By the way your Canadian "military" is smaller than the NYPD.

The NYPD has 40,000 personnel.

The CF regular force currently stands at approximately 60,000 personnel (all ranks).

Robert E. Lee's ANV was larger than the Canadian army.

sorry about the language, but hearing you say that all those countries pissed me off so you should apologize as well. England: 100 years war, Battle of Britain, crusade.. i will go on if you want
Canada: Passchendael (spelling?), Ypres, Vimy Ridge, Dieppe, Liberation of Holland.

Remember, England is about a thousand years older than the US. It's only natural that you've had more battles. Also, most of its history is in an age where battles could only take place if one nation were invaded. Times have changed.

when they get shot down where are they to land?

If blown up then it would do less damage then a direct crash. The civilians might be hurt but structural damage and overall causalties would be smaller.
Besides werent they trying to shoot down one plane?

England deserves credit. it has been positively hammered by various nations and yet it has held them off, sometimes with incredible loss. Regardless of opinion their military gains my respect.

How would it make us seem blood thirsty

And if germany never decreased its military budget it would be the best but alas can not change that. Oh well at least it seems europe is going to be peaceful.

With the way the world currently stereotypicalizes the US, it would be seen as a.) an act of aggression, or b.) a cover up for something of offensive power.

i never said about predicting any earthquakes. i said that the US satellites picked up a distrubance in the water flow in SE asia and they did squat about it. and also, i am .000000000000000000001% americain and the only reason for that is cause i was born here.

Your nationality American so you are 100% american
Ethnically you are greek
So you are an american

England deserves credit. it has been positively hammered by various nations and yet it has held them off, sometimes with incredible loss. Regardless of opinion their military gains my respect.

Indeed it does, I have not said that. They do have honor, and therefore should be recognized for it, as I do now.

Let me ask you a question, do you know the average height of a tsunami in open ocean?

what do you think? i only said that they picked up a disturbance, i'm not talking about the satellite using 10000000 equations to calculate the height. you are missing the point.

Your nationality American so you are 100% american
Ethnically you are greek
So you are an american

I will never be a true americain and never be.

i never said about predicting any earthquakes. i said that the US satellites picked up a distrubance in the water flow in SE asia and they did squat about it. and also, i am .000000000000000000001% americain and the only reason for that is cause i was born here.

who really cares about SE asia? would they help us out if something like that happened to us?

you dont know how much some americans are trying to help those people. the reason i say some is because i could care less about them ( SE asia )

With the way the world currently stereotypicalizes the US, it would be seen as a.) an act of aggression, or b.) a cover up for something of offensive power.

So if we defend ourselves we would appear like we are trying to kill people. I thought the world was less screwed up then that.

Remember, England is about a thousand years older than the US. It's only natural that you've had more battles. Also, most of its history is in an age where battles could only take place if one nation were invaded. Times have changed.
HAHA 1000 years.BC 5000 - Neolithic (new stone age) Period begins; first evidence of farming appears; stone axes, antler combs, pottery in common use.

If blown up then it would do less damage then a direct crash. The civilians might be hurt but structural damage and overall causalties would be smaller.
Besides werent they trying to shoot down one plane?

good point

HAHA 1000 years.BC 5000 - Neolithic (new stone age) Period begins; first evidence of farming appears; stone axes, antler combs, pottery in common use.

yes, the oldest civ. were mesopotaims, egyptians, greeks, romans. britain didn't came until later.

what do you think? i only said that they picked up a disturbance, i'm not talking about the satellite using 10000000 equations to calculate the height. you are missing the point.

The average height of a tsunami at sea is 1 cm. Ripples caused by the wind are heigher. On average, NOAA bouys pick up scores of "disturbances" each year. Hurricanes and storms on the other side of the globe trigger "disturbances" higer than what was detected.

HAHA 1000 years.BC 5000 - Neolithic (new stone age) Period begins; first evidence of farming appears; stone axes, antler combs, pottery in common use.

I think he was referring to the start of the line of Anglo-Saxon kings in the 9th century with Egbert.

However, you are also correct.

Guys guess what it is everyone in the world that was alive before the tsunami that lives in california, or the areas that got affected
The afflicted didnt set up sensors (not a single one is in the indian ocean)
the califorians put weight on the plate and according to the chaos theory it caused the tsunami

I think he was referring to the start of the line of Anglo-Saxon kings in the 9th century with Egbert.

However, you are also correct.
just trying to prove a point to my american friend.

The average height of a tsunami at sea is 1 cm. Ripples caused by the wind are heigher. On average, NOAA bouys pick up scores of "disturbances" each year. Hurricanes and storms on the other side of the globe trigger "disturbances" higer than what was detected.

not with this tsunami, after a couple of min their were "BIG" disturbances. they could have alerted the people around 5-10 min. before it hit. it would have made a difference.