NationStates Jolt Archive

Well do you?
Do you hate a nation other then your own nation?
Do you hate your own nation?
If you do, why?


P.S. I am talking about real nations not NS nations.

I hate what some nations stand for, but I don't hate nations.

I hate Saudi Arabia. Their leaders seem to smile in the US's face and then stab us in the back. They're always around when they need us, but they don't do a thing to stop the anti-western hate being spread throughout their country and actually fund it's spread abroad.

Define hating a nation.

Do you mean the people within said nation, ie. a nationality, or the nation in questions political systems, etc.?

nope. there's only two things i hate: when people eat with their mouths open, and adverts which use people who have freakishly large smiles. or adverts which use smiling people in general for that matter

I really hate France for a number of reasons. For one, they vastly overestimate their own prestige as a culture and a nation. Second, the people are very arrogant..if you think Americans are bad...my you've yet to experience ;) Third, they are inexplicably obstructive when people try to do genuine good. I don't mean on a UN level, but an EU one mainly...they think they're the centre of it. They have a weaker economy than the UK and Germany, so there really is no point in them struggling for the 'invisible' capital of the EU. They also annoy me because they have an exceptionally poor military history filled with terrible blunders, openly supported terrorism (IRA) and their Imperialism was the most damaging of them all. All the problem areas in Africa today and many elsewhere I ex-French colonies because they ran such an awful gig.

Viv La Republic? I think not...corrupt, morally bankrupt, worthless country as far as I'm concerned. Decent food and wine doesn't make up for all the bad.

Define hating a nation.

Do you mean the people within said nation, ie. a nationality, or the nation in questions political systems, etc.?
Hate a nation-People, politics etc... anything that makes you hate it in some way.

I hate:
France (arrogant people)
Germany (started two world wars)
North Korea (small guy acting big)
India (their movies suck)
Canada (thinking they can do nothing wrong)

I love:
USA (greatest nation on the face of earth)

I hate AMERICA!! There, said it. America is the country that should be hated and feared above Iraq and all the other countries like that - what, in all fairness, have they ever done to the rest of the world? America has done loads and is destroying the planet at the moment with all the pollution etc. Why did America and Britain go to war with Iraq? To look for Osama Bin Ladin as per original excuse? No. To seek out and destroy WMD? No, no, none were found. To free the people of Iraq? Apparently, yes. Sadam Hussein, eat your heart out you have competition in the way of being worlds best dictator, George Bush and the USA!

Canada (thinking they can't do nothing wrong)

Hmm. I'm wondering whether you know what you have actually said there?

France

USA came a close Second...unusually, I exclude New England and California from that....I just have real problems with the South. I also pretty much despise Ireland, but that's for personal reasons...I lost someone in IRA bombings. Funny how Islamic terrorism is stamped out by Americans, but the IRA has only recently begun to be frowned upon. ;)

I don't think I hate another nation, but I definitely do not like France (I just don't, no particular reason),Syria (they harbor terrorists and unjustly occupy Lebanon), and North Korea (nukes, megalomaniac who lets his people starve).

I love the UK, USA, and Germany (I am about 2/3 German and speak German, so it's kind of natural).

Mmmkay.

I hate the current government administrations of:

North Korea.
China.
U.S.A.
Australia.
Iran.
Syria.
Zimbabwe.
Saudi Arabia.
Russia.
Israel.
Singapore.

Because each is completely opposed to my politics on varying levels. Doesn't mean I hate the people in them or anything else about the nations. It would be fair to say that I dislike all governments, though, and i'm leaving out many, many, dictatorships.

I'll reserve judgement on the UK until I see the next election result there ;)


All the problem areas in Africa today and many elsewhere I ex-French colonies because they ran such an awful gig.

Zimbabwe? Eritrea/Ethiopia? Dem. Rep. of the Congo?

Imperialism was equally damaging no matter who was in charge.

I hate America. For many, many things which I am not prepared to exhaust myself by going through. Or risk flamebaiting/trolling.

So I will simply say

God Damn America

I just have real problems with the South

I think almost everyone does. I had to drive through the Bible belt to get to Florida. There were more Confederate flags than US flags!

Zimbabwe? Eritrea/Ethiopia? Dem. Rep. of the Congo?

Imperialism was equally damaging no matter who was in charge.

Congo was Belgian, more or less the same thing. Zimbabwe is Mugabe...and Imperialism wasn't always damaging, people nowadays tend to forget the good it did.

God Damn America

Be careful, or I'll be forced to call Homeland Security :rolleyes:

Hmm. I'm wondering whether you know what you have actually said there?
Hahaa, fixed! No longer shall I say Canada is modest! :p

Congo was Belgian, more or less the same thing

Congo was prety much the private "playground" of Leopold II, so it's probably even worse than other colonies.

Hahaa, fixed! No longer shall I say Canada is modest! :p

Well done, you now have a basic understaning of English Grammar. Now do you want to try for the gold?

Congo was Belgian, more or less the same thing. Zimbabwe is Mugabe...and Imperialism wasn't always damaging, people nowadays tend to forget the good it did.

Huh?

Belgium and France are different nations. You can't blame the screwups of Belgium on France.

By the way, you stated "All the problem areas in Africa today". I listed some crucial problem areas that weren't French colonies.

And the "good" that came from imperialism certainly wasn't prevalent in those nations themselves. We got richer at their expense.

Be careful, or I'll be forced to call Homeland Security :rolleyes:

Ha I am British, send your FBI after me but I have James Bond!

Ha I am British, send your FBI after me but I have James Bond!

Well, the FBI has J. Edgar Hoover.... oh God, he's dressed like a woman again... damn.

Well, the FBI has J. Edgar Hoover.... oh God, he's dressed like a woman again... damn.
We can just claim he's a master of disguise. Yeah, that's the ticket.

We can just claim he's a master of disguise. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Speaking from experience?

No, and the idea of hating a nation makes me sick, and smacks of nationalism.

Speaking from experience?
Yeah, you got me. I'm a crossdresser. You should see me right now. I stand about 6'6" in my stiletto heels, I'm wearing pink lingere which displays my hairy beer gut, and I haven't trimmed my moustache in weeks. I look stunning.

I hate Belgium, but I've no idea why. I don't mind Belgians. I have no problem with Belgian beer, or chocolate. I just really, really, really HATE Belgium itself. I think it's probably because it's so cocking flat. What kind of insane bastard decides to create a coastal country four feet under sea level? For crying out loud, Belgium, what were you thinking? It's almost as stupid a place to put people as Los Angeles. Though perhaps not THAT dumb.

I really hate France for a number of reasons. For one, they vastly overestimate their own prestige as a culture and a nation. Second, the people are very arrogant..if you think Americans are bad...my you've yet to experience ;) Third, they are inexplicably obstructive when people try to do genuine good. I don't mean on a UN level, but an EU one mainly...they think they're the centre of it. They have a weaker economy than the UK and Germany, so there really is no point in them struggling for the 'invisible' capital of the EU. They also annoy me because they have an exceptionally poor military history filled with terrible blunders, openly supported terrorism (IRA) and their Imperialism was the most damaging of them all. All the problem areas in Africa today and many elsewhere I ex-French colonies because they ran such an awful gig.

Vive La Republic? I think not...corrupt, morally bankrupt, worthless country as far as I'm concerned. Decent food and wine doesn't make up for all the bad.

A man with some good judgement. :rolleyes:
And he didn't even mention their personal hygiene habits.

Yeah, you got me. I'm a crossdresser. You should see me right now. I stand about 6'6" in my stiletto heels, I'm wearing pink lingere which displays my hairy beer gut, and I haven't trimmed my moustache in weeks. I look stunning.

:eek:

This is almost as bad as the descripiton of the dangers of anal sex with a dolphin in yesterday's Bestiality thread.

Yeah, you got me. I'm a crossdresser. You should see me right now. I stand about 6'6" in my stiletto heels, I'm wearing pink lingere which displays my hairy beer gut, and I haven't trimmed my moustache in weeks. I look stunning.

That's a deppressing image. Really it is.

Naah...Not hate. But some nations scare me. Particularly the US.

Naah...Not hate. But some nations scare me. Particularly the US.
Message from Uncle Sam: "Boo!"

France...

Message from Uncle Sam: "Boo!"

AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :eek:

Huh?

Belgium and France are different nations. You can't blame the screwups of Belgium on France.

By the way, you stated "All the problem areas in Africa today". I listed some crucial problem areas that weren't French colonies.

And the "good" that came from imperialism certainly wasn't prevalent in those nations themselves. We got richer at their expense.

Er...no..India, Africa etc. were all Industrialised. british Imperialism had many and considerable benefits...French imperialiasm was about looting and stealing. The British stayed, developed the country. All the same, Mugabe is a twat. That has nothing to do with the UK.

I hate North Africa. Too many Llama's there. Oh and Antartica too. It's just penguins.

I hate North Africa. Too many Llama's there. Oh and Antartica too. It's just penguins.
Llamas?

perhaps camels?

Er...no..India, Africa etc. were all Industrialised. british Imperialism had many and considerable benefits...French imperialiasm was about looting and stealing. The British stayed, developed the country. All the same, Mugabe is a twat. That has nothing to do with the UK.

India and Africa are not industrialised. India is slowly getting there *now* but under imperial rule, their economies were raw materials based. And the way that some of the locals were treated was absolutely charming.

Message from Uncle Sam: "Boo!"

:eek: Oh no! Run to the hills!

:eek: Oh no! Run to the hills!

NOOO!! They're in the hills!!!

:eek: Oh no! Run to the hills!
Run foohor your liiiiiife

*headbangs*

NOOO!! They're in the hills!!!

Wait! *sniff sniff* What...What's that smell? Hamburgers! ...They're close *curls up into a ball and starts humming *

Llamas?

He's played too much sim city.

What's...What's that smell? Hamburgers! ...They're close *curls up into a ball and starts humming *

There's No Ham or Burgers in THOSE Hanburgers!!

I hate AMERICA!! There, said it. America is the country that should be hated and feared above Iraq and all the other countries like that - what, in all fairness, have they ever done to the rest of the world? America has done loads and is destroying the planet at the moment with all the pollution etc. Why did America and Britain go to war with Iraq? To look for Osama Bin Ladin as per original excuse? No. To seek out and destroy WMD? No, no, none were found. To free the people of Iraq? Apparently, yes. Sadam Hussein, eat your heart out you have competition in the way of being worlds best dictator, George Bush and the USA!

What has America ever done for the world? Are you KIDDING? Okay, I'll start a list:

a)Turned the tide (or greatly helped to do this..) in WWII... greatly helped the cause of the Allies in Europe and almost single-handedly beat the Japanese in the Pacific. If you're a non-German/Austrian European, you can thank AMERICA for the fact that you do not speak German.

b)FREED (with the Brits) the people of Iraq by deposing Saddam hussein. Was this not a great service to not only the people of Iraq (okay, only 80% of them...) but to the rest of the world?

c)FREED the people of Afghanistan from the iron-fisted Taliban.

d)Kept Europe from becoming totally Communist by way of the Cold War. Could Europe have stood up to the Soviet Union without the aid of America?

Now... can you still say, with a straight face, that America has not contributed positively to the rest of the world?

I hate:

France (of course, because they're arrogant and they smell bad)
Australia (because they're arrogant and talk funny)
Switzerland (they need to pick up a gun every once in a while)
African countries (I beleive in human superiority)
North Korea (They're ruled by a megalomaniac and they eat dogs)

What has America ever done for the world? Are you KIDDING? Okay, I'll start a list:

a)Turned the tide (or greatly helped to do this..) in WWII... greatly helped the cause of the Allies in Europe and almost single-handedly beat the Japanese in the Pacific. If you're a non-German/Austrian European, you can thank AMERICA for the fact that you do not speak German.

b)FREED (with the Brits) the people of Iraq by deposing Saddam hussein. Was this not a great service to not only the people of Iraq (okay, only 80% of them...) but to the rest of the world?

c)FREED the people of Afghanistan from the iron-fisted Taliban.

d)Kept Europe from becoming totally Communist by way of the Cold War. Could Europe have stood up to the Soviet Union without the aid of America?

Now... can you still say, with a straight face, that America has not contributed positively to the rest of the world?

Yes I can.

a) You were really the people that Japan was attacking, they didn't really become involved with the major battles against Europe. German is, in fact, a hell of a lot better than your American-English that you speak. And even though I live in the UK I am PROUD to have spoken German and to know how to speak German.

b) And killing half of the population of Iraq?

c) Look at b).

d) If the whole of Europe had become communist, so what? I'd love to be communist, in theory. The practise maybe not, but how do you know it wouldn't have worked??

I have one more phrase to say about your last comment - Fast Food, you invented it.

Viv La Republic? I think not...corrupt, morally bankrupt, worthless country as far as I'm concerned. Decent food and wine doesn't make up for all the bad.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about America.

And a poor military history is no reason to hate a country.

And, why did they support the IRA? Because the Brits opposed it. It was a very simple reason.

I hate the US... Why? They are the loud-mouthed fat-ass neighbour that no matter how much you ignore, just will NOT go away. They throw their empty beer cans into your yard and complain loudly when you don't invite them over to your family barbaque, and they think it's perfectly fine to tell you what wrong with your house, even if their's is falling apart.

USA came a close Second...unusually, I exclude New England and California from that....I just have real problems with the South. I also pretty much despise Ireland, but that's for personal reasons...I lost someone in IRA bombings. Funny how Islamic terrorism is stamped out by Americans, but the IRA has only recently begun to be frowned upon. ;)
hehe, and the IRA is heavily supported by millions of dumbasses from New England who had an Irish grandpa here or there. These so called Irish Americans are completely ignorant of the world, they think Ireland is a pretty place and tradition and heritage and England is evil etc. etc. so they donate money every year to IRA.

b) And killing half of the population of Iraq?

wtf? According to the highest estimates (from anti-war sources) 20,000 Iraqis have died so far. That's 0.08% of the Iraqi population.

Australia (because they're arrogant and talk funny)

We are?

wtf? According to the highest estimates (from anti-war sources) 20,000 Iraqis have died so far. That's 0.08% of the Iraqi population.

I didn't mean literally - But 20, 000 people dying should not be looked down on as a minor number, ever!! If you think that isn't very many, then perhaps you should experience that for yourself. Dying that is? Ever tried that? Ever thought about that? 20,000 people is more than you will ever meet in your entire life, and you meet a lot of people in your life. you speak of 20, 000 as nothing, you are scum.

What has America ever done for the world? Are you KIDDING? Okay, I'll start a list:

a)Turned the tide (or greatly helped to do this..) in WWII... greatly helped the cause of the Allies in Europe and almost single-handedly beat the Japanese in the Pacific. If you're a non-German/Austrian European, you can thank AMERICA for the fact that you do not speak German.

b)FREED (with the Brits) the people of Iraq by deposing Saddam hussein. Was this not a great service to not only the people of Iraq (okay, only 80% of them...) but to the rest of the world?

c)FREED the people of Afghanistan from the iron-fisted Taliban.

d)Kept Europe from becoming totally Communist by way of the Cold War. Could Europe have stood up to the Soviet Union without the aid of America?

Now... can you still say, with a straight face, that America has not contributed positively to the rest of the world?

I say thank you to Russia for saving us from the Germans, after all the USSR won the war...not the USA. And it's generally accepted that the British, Americans and Russians relied heavily on one another to win that war.

Freed the people of Iraq? From what? You've got them under military oppression at the moment.

I say thank you to Russia for saving us from the Germans, after all the USSR won the war...not the USA. And it's generally accepted that the British, Americans and Russians relied heavily on one another to win that war.

Freed the people of Iraq? From what? You've got them under military oppression at the moment.

Yes! Thank YOU!! Someone that agrees with me!!

I didn't mean literally - But 20, 000 people dying should not be looked down on as a minor number, ever!! If you think that isn't very many, then perhaps you should experience that for yourself. Dying that is? Ever tried that? Ever thought about that? 20,000 people is more than you will ever meet in your entire life, and you meet a lot of people in your life. you speak of 20, 000 as nothing, you are scum.
did i ever say it was nothing? i merely corrected your insane estimate of 50% Iraqis killed.

We are?
No, you guys are OK.

It's really unfortunate that so many people have said they hate the USA..

Feel free to hate the administration (I do) but to hate the country as a whole..thats sad. Most people in the US are very decent people, and the country as a whole usually tries to do the right thing. There are exceptions to be sure..but to hate the USA, especially over so many other countries which are far worse, is unfortunate. I'm not saying the USA is the best, greatest, most perfect nation on earth, but most people simply have no idea what the world would turn into in many parts if the USA simply disappeared. There would be wars started almost immediately. Sure, hate the negative aspects of the US, but come on, we do a lot of good in the world too.

I didn't mean literally - But 20, 000 people dying should not be looked down on as a minor number, ever!! If you think that isn't very many, then perhaps you should experience that for yourself. Dying that is? Ever tried that? Ever thought about that? 20,000 people is more than you will ever meet in your entire life, and you meet a lot of people in your life. you speak of 20, 000 as nothing, you are scum.
Yeah, but were they all killed by US troops or is a percentage of that number comprised of people killed by insurgents? Also are the dead insurgents included in that number? Considering the US toppled a foreign regime and is currently in control of a nation with a high percentage of unfriendly people the casualties have been pretty low.

Yes. I live in England, and I hate America. Then again, I hate England too. Actually, I hate the planet Earth - no, I hate the whole of Sol, nay, the Milky Way (don't you think that that is the worst name scientists could have ever named a galaxy?). Actually, I hate the entire universe.

did i ever say it was nothing? i merely corrected your insane estimate of 50% Iraqis killed.

It wasn't an estimate, it was an exaggeration. There's a difference. I merely meant that you killed over 20,000 or whatever it was. That is a very bad thing! And to be honest, I don't care about the amount of American's that died, they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I hate:
France (arrogant people)
Germany (started two world wars)
North Korea (small guy acting big)
India (their movies suck)
Canada (thinking they can do nothing wrong)

I love:
USA (greatest nation on the face of earth)

France (talk 2 fast)
Germany (great people, shut your face american fool)
what has north korea ever done 2 u?
so do american movies suck
agree on canada, but it also applies 2 the US

of course everyone knows that england is the best

Well do you?
Do you hate a nation other then your own nation?
Do you hate your own nation?
If you do, why?
I don't actually "hate" anyone, especially entire nations. I do, however, intensely dislike some: North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and yes, France. :p

No, I definitely do not dislike the USA.

It's really unfortunate that so many people have said they hate the USA..

Feel free to hate the administration (I do) but to hate the country as a whole..thats sad. Most people in the US are very decent people, and the country as a whole usually tries to do the right thing. There are exceptions to be sure..but to hate the USA, especially over so many other countries which are far worse, is unfortunate. I'm not saying the USA is the best, greatest, most perfect nation on earth, but most people simply have no idea what the world would turn into in many parts if the USA simply disappeared. There would be wars started almost immediately. Sure, hate the negative aspects of the US, but come on, we do a lot of good in the world too.

Create more wars than prevent them, I would say. Which wars would suddenly erupt? If the US suddenly dissapeared the only casualties would be people crushed in international celebrations.

Yeah, but were they all killed by US troops or is a percentage of that number comprised of people killed by insurgents? Also are the dead insurgents included in that number? Considering the US toppled a foreign regime and is currently in control of a nation with a high percentage of unfriendly people the casualties have been pretty low.

They're pretty damn high from where I'm sitting. They had no real resaon to be there. They still have no real reason they were there. No they weren't all killed by US Troops, I am well aware that British troops and others were there too. But none of them should have been there. There have been far too many deaths in the name of the USA.

France (talk 2 fast)
Germany (great people, shut your face american fool)
what has north korea ever done 2 u?
so do american movies suck
agree on canada, but it also applies 2 the US

of course everyone knows that england is the best

See, honestly, that's what makes us great. We actually care when a people ard being oppressed and starved to death somewhere else in the world.

Create more wars than prevent them, I would say. Which wars would suddenly erupt? If the US suddenly dissapeared the only casualties would be people crushed in international celebrations.
What about the entire middle east being completely depopulated by a war between Israel and everyone else in the region? Then the oil supply is drastically cut, and everyone else fights for what little non-radioactive oil is still available. WWIII

They're pretty damn high from where I'm sitting. They had no real resaon to be there. They still have no real reason they were there. No they weren't all killed by US Troops, I am well aware that British troops and others were there too. But none of them should have been there. There have been far too many deaths in the name of the USA.
Look, I agree that we shouldn't have gone in, but I'm amazed how few people actually died.

I don't actually "hate" anyone, especially entire nations. I do, however, intensely dislike some: North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and yes, France. :p

No, I definitely do not dislike the USA.
I was pretty close.

Hey, Eutrusca, check my post on page #1.




Now, how about those granddaughters? http://67.18.37.18/1027/100/emo/winkwinkknowwhatimean.gif

Create more wars than prevent them, I would say. Which wars would suddenly erupt? If the US suddenly dissapeared the only casualties would be people crushed in international celebrations.

Yes, we have created more wars than prevent them, but often those wars were neccessary (not Iraq, however). Overall, I find it hard for anyone with a decent understanding of history and global politics to believe that overall the US has done more harm than good with it's wars.

I bet you that without the US around, the NK would invade SK (because our massive amounts of troops would no longer be there), China may invade Taiwan, there could very well be another Israeli conflict, and without the aid we supply to various countries, wars would erupt over resources.

See, honestly, that's what makes us great. We actually care when a people ard being oppressed and starved to death somewhere else in the world.
What about the people in the USA that live below the poverty line and can't eat properly, or even at times feed themselves? And what about the people in the USA who are denied rights because of a preference in life style?

And, Canada is not that bad. We are hardly perfect. However, with neighbours like Americans, it's pretty easy to get deluded into thinking we're perfect because we have less corruption than you, we aren't hated for aggressive pro-military policies and being arrogant and thinking that the world wants us as its police.

Look, I agree that we shouldn't have gone in, but I'm amazed how few people actually died.

They're still pretty damn high. More deaths were caused by this and other American created wars than anything else.

Yes, we have created more wars than prevent them, but often those wars were neccessary

Wars are never neccesary.

What about the people in the USA that live below the poverty line and can't eat properly, or even at times feed themselves? And what about the people in the USA who are denied rights because of a preference in life style?

And, Canada is not that bad. We are hardly perfect. However, with neighbours like Americans, it's pretty easy to get deluded into thinking we're perfect because we have less corruption than you, we aren't hated for aggressive pro-military policies and being arrogant and thinking that the world wants us as its police.

Hey, I'm not saying we're smart about it. But we do care. And many people in the US do not agree with said discrimation over lifestyle. Besides, those people CHOOSE to be poor. There's no other way to put it. There are plenty of jobs out there that even a homeless person could get. Besides, those that still have a house but make little money have a thing called WELFARE.

Wars are never neccesary.

So you're saying we should let countries oppress their peoples, starve them to death, even commit genocide? The civilized world has a duty to act to stop said atrocities.
Besides, wars must be done sometimes against countries who wish to overrun everything in their path (IE Germany in WW2)

So you're saying we should let countries oppress their peoples, starve them to death, even commit genocide? The civilized world has a duty to act to stop said atrocities.

No, I'm saying we find other ways to stop it. And now, I need sleep.

Hey, I'm not saying we're smart about it. But we do care. And many people in the US do not agree with said discrimation over lifestyle. Besides, those people CHOOSE to be poor. There's no other way to put it. There are plenty of jobs out there that even a homeless person could get. Besides, those that still have a house but make little money have a thing called WELFARE.
I'm not talking about the homeless, I'm talking about the honest people who try and hold decent jobs and support loved ones, but because of the system are slighted. And maybe they can't collect welfare for legal reasons. I know welfare isn't available when you have work...

And NO ONE CHOOSES TO BE POOR.

No, I'm saying we find other ways to stop it. And now, I need sleep.

Like how? Do you mean sanctions, international pressure, diplomatic solutions, etc.? Wow that's really stopped what's happening in NK..

They're still pretty damn high. More deaths were caused by this and other American created wars than anything else.
More than smallpox?

Wars are never neccesary.
Really? Even if you're attacked?

I'm not talking about the homeless, I'm talking about the honest people who try and hold decent jobs and support loved ones, but because of the system are slighted. And maybe they can't collect welfare for legal reasons. I know welfare isn't available when you have work...

And NO ONE CHOOSES TO BE POOR.

Listen, they are poor because they didn't get a decent education. A cheap, CHEAP education that anybody could work through and could get one a job that could sustainable job could be received at any community college, which have bascially no admissions requirements. No education=poverty. I admit there is a problem, though. No system is perfect for getting rid of poverty. I believe the system should be changed. But that doesn't mean that we should be pointed out for having poor people--they exist everywhere.

Like how? Do you mean sanctions, international pressure, diplomatic solutions, etc.? Wow that's really stopped what's happening in NK..
It's called small penis syndrome. There is no cure.

It's called small penis syndrome. There is no cure.
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:D you sound like an email inbox

I hate:
Germany (started two world wars)
I love:
USA (greatest nation on the face of earth)
Were did you learn history? Germany did not start WWI.

I hate Belgium, but I've no idea why. I don't mind Belgians. I have no problem with Belgian beer, or chocolate. I just really, really, really HATE Belgium itself. I think it's probably because it's so cocking flat. What kind of insane bastard decides to create a coastal country four feet under sea level? For crying out loud, Belgium, what were you thinking? It's almost as stupid a place to put people as Los Angeles. Though perhaps not THAT dumb.
You forgot the Netherlands!

Listen, they are poor because they didn't get a decent education. A cheap, CHEAP education that anybody could work through and could get one a job that could sustainable job could be received at any community college, which have bascially no admissions requirements. No education=poverty. I admit there is a problem, though. No system is perfect for getting rid of poverty. I believe the system should be changed. But that doesn't mean that we should be pointed out for having poor people--they exist everywhere.
No, be pointed out for helping others before helping out your own kind.

And the choice to get an education there is probably because their parents were poor. Poverty at some point becomes a cycle because it can't be broken out of until a miracle happens.

Education in the US looks extremely pricey, which means that people who are in the lower end of society, are forced to do without, or join the army and put their ass on the line for an education.

I think almost everyone does. I had to drive through the Bible belt to get to Florida. There were more Confederate flags than US flags!
Bullshit! I live in the South and yes, there are some who display Confederate flags, but far, far more who display the American flag.

Were did you learn history? Germany did not start WWI.
The Hungarians and the Serbians started it. The Germans and the others were dragged in because of alliances.

Were did you learn history? Germany did not start WWI.
Hey, your right! (but they sure as hell made it last long)

btw, don't take that post too serious, I was just trying to be faster then a cliché conservative redneck.

France (talk 2 fast)
Germany (great people, shut your face american fool)
what has north korea ever done 2 u?
so do american movies suck
agree on canada, but it also applies 2 the US

of course everyone knows that england is the best
Mmm, you seem to have a problem with the USA. As long as your not biased, it's ok to me. :fluffle:

I hate AMERICA!! There, said it. America is the country that should be hated and feared above Iraq and all the other countries like that - what, in all fairness, have they ever done to the rest of the world? America has done loads and is destroying the planet at the moment with all the pollution etc. Why did America and Britain go to war with Iraq? To look for Osama Bin Ladin as per original excuse? No. To seek out and destroy WMD? No, no, none were found. To free the people of Iraq? Apparently, yes. Sadam Hussein, eat your heart out you have competition in the way of being worlds best dictator, George Bush and the USA!
You have a very serious reality problem. Have you considered the services of a competent psychiatrist or psychologist?

Ha I am British, send your FBI after me but I have James Bond!

It would be a CIA assassin, and he could take you out without your ever knowing that you were being watched.

You can thank America that you still speak English instead of German or Russian.

Likewise, of course, I can thank England that I speak English instead of French.

I was pretty close.

Hey, Eutrusca, check my post on page #1.
Close. Very close. :)



Now, how about those granddaughters? http://67.18.37.18/1027/100/emo/winkwinkknowwhatimean.gif
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[QUOTE=Haken Rider]I hate:
France (arrogant people)
Germany (started two world wars)
North Korea (small guy acting big)
India (their movies suck)
Canada (thinking they can do nothing wrong)

I love:
USA (greatest nation on the face of earth)[/QUOTES]

Strongly Disagree

The french are beautiful people with beautiful culuture, I admire them and the Germans greatly for they're comitment to a unified Europe, somthing we brits are massivly lacking in.

North Korea, come on, they're ostrasised just because they do things differently, can you blame them for wanted to defend themselves against the US?

India is a sweet country, they're blue chip industry is expanding massivly and it has a greater number of computer programs per 1000 people than any other countries.

Canada is what The US should be, ie not a load of wankers

And that brings me to your so called "greatest nation on the face of earth"
let us remind outselves of who has destroyed the most countries, in the last 50 years, who's imperialist policies alienate the Arab world to the extent that a few of their dissaffected people decided to kill themselves and take a few westerners with them, who's capitalist policies keeps half the world in poverty, who's idea of freedom is a US type government which likes the US. I mean look as venuzula for starters they have a socialist government and they are shunned by the US as "authoritarian" basically when it boils down to it the US is responsible for a great deal of the "fucked-up-ness" of this world and its time somthing was done about it

(but they sure as hell made it last long)
No longer then you made it last. It's not like they were just going to let your people invade our country and have your way with it.
Mind you if they knew what kind of bullsh*t treaty you had in your pockets they would have fought even longer.

btw, don't take that post too serious, I was just trying to be faster then a cliché conservative redneck.
Don't worry, I understand. :)

Canada is what The US should be, ie not a load of wankers

*snicker* you said wanker! :D And yes, the US should be more like Canada, but, even we have our flaws.

...It's not like they were just going to let your people invade our country and have your way with it.

So you just invade my country, nice. :rolleyes:

Mind you if they knew what kind of bullsh*t treaty you had in your pockets they would have fought even longer...

... but they couldn't, seeing their defenses were shaddered.

there are two nations i dislike really really much and they are...
the USA and ISRAEL... god i hate 'em.

I hate united states' capitalist arrogant government which only talks about democracy and equality but is not really doing anything for it. they didn't bring any democracy to iraq, in my opinion the brought the worst kind of anarchism, a civil war you could also say, and just wait, the situation is getting even more worse...and for what reason did they have to invade iraq? weapons of mass destruction? where are they? in america of course. no, for oil, pure black oil.

and israel, i dislike it even more than united states, man, i just can't stand it and i always get a really bad feeling when i read about current events in the israel/palestine. it almost makes my cry how a strong nation with an extremely powerful military can do so to such a poor people as palestinians are. i think all the terrorism there is israel's oppression's fault and the state of israel is unholy and hypocritical. after this long time the people should start to understand that the creation of the state of israel was a great mistake and try to cease its existence.

anyway don't get me wrong, i'm in no way a racist so i consider everybody (except: bush, sharon, etc) coming from any country, including usa and israel, a great people until they prove otherwise. i don't class people by their home country. so you americans shouldn't be offended, instead, you should be glad you heard an opinion from europe.

long live freedom of speech! ;)

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North Korea, come on, they're ostrasised just because they do things differently, can you blame them for wanted to defend themselves against the US?


North Korea sured does things differently. They starve their people, put political dissidents in death camps, sell nuclear material, sell methamphetamines illegaly throughout East Asia, Kidnap Japanese citizens, censor what their people can read and hear, worship Lil' Kim like a god, and build nuclear weapons to blackmail the world.

Of course you can't criticize them just because they're different. That would be cultural imperialism. If postmodernism's taught us anything it's that there are no standards to live up to and any culture is just as good as any other.

I hate Saudi Arabia. Their leaders seem to smile in the US's face and then stab us in the back. They're always around when they need us, but they don't do a thing to stop the anti-western hate being spread throughout their country and actually fund it's spread abroad.
You don't hate Saudi Arabia. You hate their government, which is OK, because I do too. In fact I hate most governments in the world. But I don't hate any country.

there are two nations i dislike really really much and they are...
the USA and ISRAEL... god i hate 'em.

I hate united states' capitalist arrogant government which only talks about democracy and equality but is not really doing anything for it. they didn't bring any democracy to iraq, in my opinion the brought the worst kind of anarchism, a civil war you could also say, and just wait, the situation is getting even more worse...and for what reason did they have to invade iraq? weapons of mass destruction? where are they? in america of course. no, for oil, pure black oil.

and israel, i dislike it even more than united states, man, i just can't stand it and i always get a really bad feeling when i read about current events in the israel/palestine. it almost makes my cry how a strong nation with an extremely powerful military can do so to such a poor people as palestinians are. i think all the terrorism there is israel's oppression's fault and the state of israel is unholy and hypocritical. after this long time the people should start to understand that the creation of the state of israel was a great mistake and try to cease its existence.
No point arguing with you. You've made up your mind despite the facts.

Close. Very close. :)




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pitty... :(

But I shall return!

[QUOTE=Haken Rider]I hate:
France (arrogant people)
Germany (started two world wars)
North Korea (small guy acting big)
India (their movies suck)
Canada (thinking they can do nothing wrong)

I love:
USA (greatest nation on the face of earth)[/QUOTES]

Strongly Disagree

The french are beautiful people with beautiful culuture, I admire them and the Germans greatly for they're comitment to a unified Europe, somthing we brits are massivly lacking in.

North Korea, come on, they're ostrasised just because they do things differently, can you blame them for wanted to defend themselves against the US?

India is a sweet country, they're blue chip industry is expanding massivly and it has a greater number of computer programs per 1000 people than any other countries.

Canada is what The US should be, ie not a load of wankers

And that brings me to your so called "greatest nation on the face of earth"
let us remind outselves of who has destroyed the most countries, in the last 50 years, who's imperialist policies alienate the Arab world to the extent that a few of their dissaffected people decided to kill themselves and take a few westerners with them, who's capitalist policies keeps half the world in poverty, who's idea of freedom is a US type government which likes the US. I mean look as venuzula for starters they have a socialist government and they are shunned by the US as "authoritarian" basically when it boils down to it the US is responsible for a great deal of the "fucked-up-ness" of this world and its time somthing was done about it

I strongly disagree with you on every one of your points.

The United States fights for freedom. IF you don't like it, ask one of the millions of Iraqis who BRAVED BULLETS and voted. Ask THEM if they're happy that Saddam is deposed.

We see an asshole like Saddam (I just bet you LOVE Saddam) oppressing 80% of his people, and we take him out and GIVE IRAQIS A VOTE.

(i can't believe people still think that freeing Iraq was a bad move by the "evil" United States... lmao. I guess if you hate a country, you'll bend over backwards to turn a good deed into an evil one...)

I would imagine that you're jealous. We're this huge, powerful country with the world's top economy and the world's top military and it makes you seethe with anger.

We are capitalistic, generally, because we believe that economic greatness comes from FINANCIAL FREEDOM -- meaning you let the market and its entrants dictate what happens. GOVERNMENT has NO BUSINESS infringing on a people's right to control their resources.

unless you think that people are helpless (the defeatist, feel-sorry-for-yourself financial attitude) and need the government's help.

So? We give welfare to truly helpless people, while encouraging people to WORK and be PRODUCTIVE.

You people BITCH and MOAN about human rights and yet when we FREE a FUCKING COUNTRY from a TYRANT, you fail to notice the paradox and BITCH ABOUT US FREEING THEM.

christ, i've had enough of this "America is evil" baseless horseshit.

So you just invade my country, nice. :rolleyes:
... but they couldn't, seeing their defenses were shaddered.

Helping our allie just like you. :headbang:
Gorilla war would have made life for your soldiers very hard.

You don't hate Saudi Arabia. You hate their government, which is OK, because I do too. In fact I hate most governments in the world. But I don't hate any country.
No, I really do hate Saudi Arabia. I hate their clerics. I hate their government. I hate much of the population (which seems to agree with the clerics in that all non-muslims are pigs and dogs, and cousins to apes and that Islam must rule over all the world). I hate Mecca and Medina, where Islam was born (not that I hate all muslims, but I do hate the religion that inspires many of them to acts of terrorism). I hate Saudi Arabia.

I hate AMERICA!! There, said it. America is the country that should be hated and feared above Iraq and all the other countries like that - what, in all fairness, have they ever done to the rest of the world? America has done loads and is destroying the planet at the moment with all the pollution etc. Why did America and Britain go to war with Iraq? To look for Osama Bin Ladin as per original excuse? No. To seek out and destroy WMD? No, no, none were found. To free the people of Iraq? Apparently, yes. Sadam Hussein, eat your heart out you have competition in the way of being worlds best dictator, George Bush and the USA!

Dude, we didn't go to Iraq to look for Osama, and no one ever said we did. :rolleyes: :D

Helping our allie just like you. :headbang:
Gorilla war would have made life for your soldiers very hard.
No, my tiny nation was neutral, didn't want anything to do with the war and *bam* it got invaded first.

Ha!

No point arguing with you. You've made up your mind despite the facts.

excuse me but
there is point arguing with you.

can you glarify
which facts?

i'm fairly certain that some of our CIA and Special Forces are looking for that bastard

if he's found, i (and probably most Americans, while from the sound of things he'd be hailed in parts of Europe) would take pleasure in breaking every bone in his frail, skinny body and watching him suffer for all the suffering he's caused, with intent, for innocent people. Few people in the history of the world have warranted such ill treatment to such a high degree.

Few people like Ozzy Bin Laden.

lol, my last two posts sound so morbid.

please know that i hate none of you.

Of all the countries I have visited, I would have to say the one I dislike the most is the United States, shortly followed by France.

While the majority of American people I have met have been quite nice, a few have lived up to the bolshy arrogant and ignorant stereotype - but these exist everywhere. The main reason I dislike the US is the general lifestyle, you can't WALK anywhere, everything is so far apart going to the shop for a pint of milk turns into a 2 mile even in quite "densely populated" suburban areas. The health system is weighted GROSSLY in favour of those with money, if you live in the US and have a serious illness even if you DO have excellent medical insurance, god help you. If you don't, well they do sell firearms over there (sadly), I'd encourage you to use one.

The amount of religious extremism in the US worries me greatly, when you can have a national leader who bases policy on strong religious beleif irregardless of facts you have a big problem. Although again, I don't think our Mr Blair is much better in that respect. I can't say how much this is prevalent in US society at large, but the sexism and racism that is quite evident in the southern states I find absolutely disgusting.

As for France, well as a country it is beautiful, its wines are delicious and its women lovely (some of them do shave properly guys). What I dislike about France is its arrogance in European and international affairs. My main gripe is when French truck drivers, generally unsatisfied with their lots (and they have quite nice lots in life as I understand it) blockade roads and ports, causing misery not only for French citizens, but for the citizens of pretty much every country surrounding it.

Anyway, rant over.

I am an American citizen and I hate China and North Korea. Looking at it from a paranoid view, they always seem to be trying to kill my family members. First in the Korean War. Then the Chinese just happen to attack a sub that a family member serves on.

excuse me but
there is point arguing with you.

can you glarify
which facts?
1 America didn't invade Iraq for oil. The cost of the invasion and occupation makes such a prospect completely unprofitable. We'd have to get every cent from Iraqi production for many years to come to cover our ongoing costs. Putting the money in T bills at a low interest rate would have been a better investment. The capitalists know the difference between a profitable investment and a foolish one. We went into Iraq for ideological reasons. Bush and his pals honestly thought that a democratic, secular Iraq could begin a wave of democratization and secularism in the middle east.

2 Palestinian terrorism is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians have hated and attacked the Jews living in that land long before Israel existed as a nation. The Israelis didn't force muslim Palestinians out, they left of their own free will in order to clear the way for genocidal Arab armies. When the Arabs got their asses handed to them Israel did the smart thing and prevented the palestinians from returning. You don't let an enemy into your house. Palestinian terrorism is largely based on religion, not on politics. Look at the textbooks in Palestinian schools that teach that Jews are animals and worthy of death. Look at the Nazi graffiti on walls in Palestinian settlements. Look at the close relationship between the Palestinian clerics and the terrorists. Israel's hands aren't totally clean, they should abandon many of the settlements to give the Palestinians a viable homeland, but even so, the Palestinians are much more hatefull and murderous.

not that I hate all muslims, but I do hate the religion that inspires many of them to acts of terrorism

i don't believe that the religion inspires them to do acts of terrorism, well in a sense but let me glarify:

i haven't really read any religions' holy books (i'm going to read the Koran and maybe also the Bible, but i'm not so interested in that since i already know most of the main points) so i cannot be sure but as far as i know we can compare the christianity and islam as follows:

christianity declines the use of violence, so in fact, it's hard to call yourself a christian if you are killing people for your beliefs or doing acts of terrorism. christianity declines violence, and it also declines any kind of revolutionism or any overturning forces by saying that if you're good boy now, you'll end up in heaven. live in misery now and you shall live forever in paradise.

now i don't know about the islam, but i would think that it's not that anti-violence or anti-revolution because so many islamists do terrorist acts.


but i don't believe it that the religion is causing the troubles, i believe that those suicide bombing and other terrorist acts have very little to do with religions but for example inequality or why do you think palestinians are doing terrorist attacks? or why are there terrorist attacks in iraq now but there didn't use to be, at least by far not that much as now? there are also many islam states with no or almost no terrorist attacks at all.

so, my point is: which is better religion? the one which says "shut up and listen to the guys in power. they know the right thing, and if they don't, shut up anyway since if you do so, you'll live forever" OR the one which says "whenever you see reason to fight against oppression or inequality, by god, do it!"

okay this may sound a little biased, but my point was that i don't believe the terrorism is islam's fault but maybe islam religion is just more determined to change the real world, not to live in dreams. is that so wrong?

stop oppression and you'll stop terrorism.

The US seem to be always on about their rights - e.g. their right to carry firearms, their right to electrocute criminals etc. Why dont they shut up about their rights for a moment and think about their responsibilities to the rest of the world? For example, sign the Kyoto agreement.

Also, the US is the richest nation in the world, what about the rights of the people starving and dying of AIDS in the third world? They just want to be able to survive.

I think Gorganite has a fair point - Can't you see that your nation has a dangerously incompetent man at the head of its government?

No, my tiny nation was neutral, didn't want anything to do with the war and *bam* it got invaded first.

Ha!


Neutral, sure. Benelux stand together, right.

Yes, I can't stand those Micronesians.

Drunk commies reborn,

you have a point in the usa situations, but i still don't believe it, bush just can't be that stupid. and why didn't they overrun other countries then, but the ones with the most oil? i think the guys in usa didn't really wait for this much resistance or they would've been better prepared for it. then the operation would've been a much more cost-efficient. have you read 1984, maybe the usa is just spending all their money on arms to increase capitalism. is killing americans and foreign people then the proper way to do that?

about the israel situation. then how come that the palestinian terrorist attacks got massively fewer when the leftists were in power in israel and were agreeing with palestinians and increasing their freedoms and welfare and how come that the terrorist attacks then again massively, really massively (the second intifada started) begun again after israel changed its policies?

religion is just a good excuse.

USA came a close Second...unusually, I exclude New England and California from that....I just have real problems with the South. I also pretty much despise Ireland, but that's for personal reasons...I lost someone in IRA bombings. Funny how Islamic terrorism is stamped out by Americans, but the IRA has only recently begun to be frowned upon. ;)
You hate a country based on what an illegal orginisation did/does, very intelligent!! :rolleyes:

You hate a country based on what an illegal orginisation did/does, very intelligent!! :rolleyes:

When Americans make such a large outcry since 9/11 over terrorism and its evils, goes as far to persecute other nations for supporting terrors "axis of evil", yet turns a blind eye to the fact that more than a small number of americans have and still do support an openly terrorist organisation? I think Botrosox has an entirely valid point.

Originally posted by Frangland
We are capitalistic, generally, because we believe that economic greatness comes from FINANCIAL FREEDOM -- meaning you let the market and its entrants dictate what happens. GOVERNMENT has NO BUSINESS infringing on a people's right to control their resources.

Capitalism works for one reason: Greed. As sad as this sounds, if you take out greed, both from the government and the governed, ideas like Communism and Socialism (Note: they are not the same thing) are the best choices.

Capitalism is the least of all evils. That doesn't make it good.

I will not even address a nation as a whole, as hating a nation would include too many aspects and individuals of that nation.

I like France. I have been there and those I stayed with were very hospitable. For the record, they were non-religious people letting a pastor stay in their home. I am not certain there are many Americans that would do such. I am sad that I seem to be more accepted in another country than I do in some places of my own country.

Also, I hate terrorism, but I would likely not break every bone in Osama's body. I would probably feed him, help him get cleaned up, let him sleep, and give him to authorities. As I am a citizen of the United States of America, he is my enemy, but as I am also a redeemed Christian (I know about half this board just turned me off, but the rest of you please hear me out.), I have no right to say that I have been given the right to administer justice. My only mandate is to love my enemies.

It's a bizzarre thought, loving one's enemies, but on the same token, am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends out of them?

Capitalism works for one reason: Greed. As sad as this sounds, if you take out greed, both from the government and the governed, ideas like Communism and Socialism (Note: they are not the same thing) are the best choices.

Capitalism is the least of all evils. That doesn't make it good.

I will not even address a nation as a whole, as hating a nation would include too many aspects and individuals of that nation.

I like France. I have been there and those I stayed with were very hospitable. For the record, they were non-religious people letting a pastor stay in their home. I am not certain there are many Americans that would do such. I am sad that I seem to be more accepted in another country than I do in some places of my own country.

Also, I hate terrorism, but I would likely not break every bone in Osama's body. I would probably feed him, help him get cleaned up, let him sleep, and give him to authorities. As I am a citizen of the United States of America, he is my enemy, but as I am also a redeemed Christian (I know about half this board just turned me off, but the rest of you please hear me out.), I have no right to say that I have been given the right to administer justice. My only mandate is to love my enemies.

It's a bizzarre thought, loving one's enemies, but on the same token, am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends out of them?

I know, I know, I would likely do the same with Osama/Usama... I was just a tad miffed when I wrote that.

Neutral, sure. Benelux stand together, right.
Uh? Benelux is an economic organisation that started after WW2 and consists out Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg.

Both Belgium and Luxembourg were overrun during WW1, the Netherlands were neutralthe entire war.

well i LOVE scotland with all its negatives i LOVE LOVE LOVE it

hate hmmmmmm noone cept our ever so friendly neighbours england LOL
and even then NOT all of them


unfortunatley we historically have stupidly trusted other nasty nations and are now totally messed up

ho hum but noone to blame but ourselves

( cept the english but then if u dont blame then and ure scottish u get tortured daily with live rabid haggis)

i don't believe that the religion inspires them to do acts of terrorism, well in a sense but let me glarify:

i haven't really read any religions' holy books (i'm going to read the Koran and maybe also the Bible, but i'm not so interested in that since i already know most of the main points) so i cannot be sure but as far as i know we can compare the christianity and islam as follows:

christianity declines the use of violence, so in fact, it's hard to call yourself a christian if you are killing people for your beliefs or doing acts of terrorism. christianity declines violence, and it also declines any kind of revolutionism or any overturning forces by saying that if you're good boy now, you'll end up in heaven. live in misery now and you shall live forever in paradise.

now i don't know about the islam, but i would think that it's not that anti-violence or anti-revolution because so many islamists do terrorist acts.


but i don't believe it that the religion is causing the troubles, i believe that those suicide bombing and other terrorist acts have very little to do with religions but for example inequality or why do you think palestinians are doing terrorist attacks? or why are there terrorist attacks in iraq now but there didn't use to be, at least by far not that much as now? there are also many islam states with no or almost no terrorist attacks at all.

so, my point is: which is better religion? the one which says "shut up and listen to the guys in power. they know the right thing, and if they don't, shut up anyway since if you do so, you'll live forever" OR the one which says "whenever you see reason to fight against oppression or inequality, by god, do it!"

okay this may sound a little biased, but my point was that i don't believe the terrorism is islam's fault but maybe islam religion is just more determined to change the real world, not to live in dreams. is that so wrong?

stop oppression and you'll stop terrorism.
Inequality causes terrorism? Tell that to the wealthy terrorist leaders like Osama, or the Wahabi clerics in Saudi who live like princes while calling for the murder of Jews and westerners, or the upper middle class Saudis who crashed planes into the twin towers. Yeah, it's all about poverty and inequality.

Inequality causes terrorism? Tell that to the wealthy terrorist leaders like Osama, or the Wahabi clerics in Saudi who live like princes while calling for the murder of Jews and westerners, or the upper middle class Saudis who crashed planes into the twin towers. Yeah, it's all about poverty and inequality.

you know those rich guys are probably not fighting for their own riches but for their people. maybe they see the inequality and just use their moneys to get rid of it. you can't really tell. anyway i think the two planes crashing into World Trade Centers are symbolical enough and btw i can't really but to believe the official truth about the 911 is not the real truth after all. i mean there are tons of information over the net, just go check 'em out. and before you start, i'd like to add that the fact that your opinion is more popular one doesn't make it the right opinion and me a crazy guy. maybe the vice versa. :)

It's really unfortunate that so many people have said they hate the USA..

Feel free to hate the administration (I do) but to hate the country as a whole..thats sad. Most people in the US are very decent people, and the country as a whole usually tries to do the right thing. There are exceptions to be sure..but to hate the USA, especially over so many other countries which are far worse, is unfortunate. I'm not saying the USA is the best, greatest, most perfect nation on earth, but most people simply have no idea what the world would turn into in many parts if the USA simply disappeared. There would be wars started almost immediately. Sure, hate the negative aspects of the US, but come on, we do a lot of good in the world too.
Yes, sad it is, that there is a lot of hate towards the USA, when there is also so much good, that has come from it. But there are also a number of very positive contributions about America in this thread. Perhaps the division among the US citizens - as shown by the recent elections for presidency - is felt by many all over the world.
I myself both love and hate the USA. I guess, if I made a list of things I hate the US for it would contain roughly the same number of items as a list of things I love it for (most of these have been mentioned above).
I wonder why the fact that there is so much hate towards the USA doesn't seem to be analysed properly. There are reasons for it and there are ways to do something about it. Warfare and ignorance towards other people's beliefs, cultures and religion won't help to improve the picture.

I dislike Israel.

I don't hate the US, I don't like the US. EDIT: Make that the Bush Administration. EDIT: I hate the Bush Administration. I like the US.

I don't like Greece.

Uh? Benelux is an economic organisation that started after WW2 and consists out Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg.

Both Belgium and Luxembourg were overrun during WW1, the Netherlands were neutralthe entire war.

Oh, Jesus. I am talking about the nations not the economic organisation.
Be - Belgium
Ne - Nederlands
Lux - Luxemburg

I just did'nt have time to wright all the names. Thats what many call those nations. If something happens in Belgium for i.e. they say something happend in Benelux...same with the others... It just means you people stand together in some weird way.

It wasn't an estimate, it was an exaggeration. There's a difference. I merely meant that you killed over 20,000 or whatever it was. That is a very bad thing! And to be honest, I don't care about the amount of American's that died, they shouldn't have been there in the first place.
The point of a debate is to pull out valid information. You could've just said tens of thousands of casualties, that would be correct and pertinant. Saying something ridiculous like americans killed half of iraq makes you sound like a dumbass 12-year old. meaningless exaggerations do nothing for your argument.

you know those rich guys are probably not fighting for their own riches but for their people. maybe they see the inequality and just use their moneys to get rid of it. you can't really tell. anyway i think the two planes crashing into World Trade Centers are symbolical enough and btw i can't really but to believe the official truth about the 911 is not the real truth after all. i mean there are tons of information over the net, just go check 'em out. and before you start, i'd like to add that the fact that your opinion is more popular one doesn't make it the right opinion and me a crazy guy. maybe the vice versa. :)
Bullshit. Listen to what they say. Look at the muslim scholars they quote. They embrace a violent islamic ideal that incites them to violence to spread Islam and sharia to all parts of the world.

Bullshit. Listen to what they say. Look at the muslim scholars they quote. They embrace a violent islamic ideal that incites them to violence to spread Islam and sharia to all parts of the world.

calling my thought bullshit without giving a proper reason doesn't make your statement more correct. maybe they (the oppressed) are just quoting oppressed muslim scholars. maybe they believe that europe's and united states' unethical behavior could be fixed by bringing them islam.

that doesn't make my points a bit wrong.

Oh, Jesus. I am talking about the nations not the economic organisation.
Be - Belgium
Ne - Nederlands
Lux - Luxemburg

I just did'nt have time to wright all the names. Thats what many call those nations. If something happens in Belgium for i.e. they say something happend in Benelux...same with the others... It just means you people stand together in some weird way.
How rude, Belgium and The Netherlands political policy differents greately. The Netherlands for excemple kisses American but, Belgium kisses French but. We're just good neighbours, we don't have that much in commen, when you take away the language.
Ofcourse when you're talking about the eurosong festival... :p

How rude, Belgium and The Netherlands political policy differents greately. The Netherlands for excemple kisses American but, Belgium kisses French but. We're just good neighbours, we don't have that much in commen, when you take away the language.
Ofcourse when you're talking about the eurosong festival... :p

Belgium knows they're no longer better than the US at soccer, which causes quite a stir of jealousy... hence the French ass-kissing.

Now the Netherlands KNOW that we'll likely NEVER be as good as they are at soccer... so there's no reason for a Hollander to feel inferior (or jealous) to the US... which allows them to like us.

hehe

I'll join into the choir of America-haters and say that I hate the U.S. But I love Canada :p

Ein Deutscher']I'll join into the choir of America-haters and say that I hate the U.S. But I love Canada :p

Yes, you probably do hat America. All Germans really know is hate. They are a sad, sad people. I would feel pity for them, except they have the deaths of hundreds of millions of innocents on their hands.

Morgenthau was right.

I hate what some nations stand for, but I don't hate nations.

Same here.

Yes, you probably do hat America. All Germans really know is hate. They are a sad, sad people. I would feel pity for them, except they have the deaths of hundreds of millions of innocents on their hands.

Morgenthau was right.

that's the racism i hate. i mean you can't possibly think the whole nation, all the germans, are like that because they just had a silly government in 40s. btw nazi germany didn't kill hundreds of millions...

and which of today's "great" nation hasn't got stains of innocent blood in its hands?

usa? (where has all the indians gone?, what happened in hiroshima and nagasaki? vietnam anybody? iraq...)

uk? (imperial britain...)

france? (the imperialist france also...)

soviet union? (the great purges...)

china? (the great leap forward, cultural revolution...)

You Lacadaemon living in any of those countries?, are you also full of hate? are everybody in those countries full of hate? i don't think anybody in these forums have personal contacts with any of those happenings. just that they happen to live in the lands which have once been ruled by bad rulers.

Harlesburg. I hate Harlesburg.... Okay, not really
Oh, you mean real nations? :(

i dont actualy hate any nations, theirs thing i dislike about alot of nations, but also i cant stand people who blindly bash other nations :-/

It's really unfortunate that so many people have said they hate the USA..

Feel free to hate the administration (I do) but to hate the country as a whole..thats sad. Most people in the US are very decent people, and the country as a whole usually tries to do the right thing. There are exceptions to be sure..but to hate the USA, especially over so many other countries which are far worse, is unfortunate. I'm not saying the USA is the best, greatest, most perfect nation on earth, but most people simply have no idea what the world would turn into in many parts if the USA simply disappeared. There would be wars started almost immediately. Sure, hate the negative aspects of the US, but come on, we do a lot of good in the world too.


i must agree

"waits for people to call me a blind patriot because i defend my country"

Israel. I loathe israel. hands down.

USA/Israel/Saudi Arabia/Syria/Uzbekistan/USA/USA

USA/Israel/Saudi Arabia/Syria/Uzbekistan/USA/USA
Syria Owns You! :p