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O.k. Folks. I'm extremely curious about what everyone thinks about this. Should marijuana be legalized, and if so, should it be only for medical purposes? And either way, should there be age restrictions? By the way, if you've never smoked it, try not to "guess" how it makes you feel. Nothing worse than an uninformed opinion. P.S. I think it should be legal to anyone over 18, and should still be cosidered a d.u.i if you drive high. Only problem is there isnt a portable test to see if your under the influence, only if you have the metabolites, which dont make ya high. Any ideas?

Here's my idea. Legalise marijuana or ban beer. Both are about as intoxicating.

Decriminalise it.

I say let's conduct a study on the properties of marijuana and get the scientific facts about it'S effect on a human.

I have seen people using it without any problems. I have seen people using it loosing some of their mental capacities from smoking too much of the stuff.

I am leaning for nay right now.

legalise posession of a quantity, keep supply illegal except from licensed premises, growing for private consumption or local social supply (between friends) legal


edit: yes, only legal above, say, 18.

i think whoever wants to do it should go right ahead

If alcohol and regular cigarettes aren't banned (which are just as or even more dangerous to your health) then why ban marijuana.

The fact is that it is just plain stupid to smoke it. However, people should have the right to be stupid. I say make it legal for people 18 or older. I'd never do it though...

Only for medical purposes.. otherwise.. No, damn potheads!

I say let's conduct a study on the properties of marijuana and get the scientific facts about it'S effect on a human.

I have seen people using it without any problems. I have seen people using it loosing some of their mental capacities from smoking too much of the stuff.

I am leaning for nay right now.
Only problem with that is, who does the study? The pro-marijuana people will say its safer than water, the anti-marijuana people will say its more dangerous than russian roullete. The key is to find a non-biased party to conduct the study. Of course when we find someone non-biased, we'll miss them cause we'll be to busy looking at the flying pigs.

Big time yay. The quicker it becomes legal in the states, the less flak us Canadians will take about our stance on the stuff.

Edit: Post #69...Heh, heh, alllllright.

+1 forr ze naysayers!

It's suprising exactly how many people die from the drug-And I don't mean people who smoke it, but people who die trying to get thier hands on it.

+1 forr ze naysayers!

It's suprising exactly how many people die from the drug-And I don't mean people who smoke it, but people who die trying to get thier hands on it.
Easily avoided if you could just LEGALLY grow it in your garden

Easily avoided if you could just LEGALLY grow it in your garden
or get it from licensed businesses/retailers

or get it from licensed businesses/retailers
Hear hear.

I say HELL YAY!

Make it legal already.


Although I dont do any kind of drugs now, I smoked it a little in the past. Its apparently not for me......I end up having a laughing fit about absolutely nothing, cant carry on a conversation,and then I slip into a coma and sleep. I also used to think I was the highest one in the room and that everyone was focusing on that fact...paranoid to the max. Urg....none for me thanks, but yeah make it legal and put the money towards something useful.

I dont know-I have no use for it. The handful of people I know that smoke it seem to be a little on the slow side-immature,laughing at anything, etc... Its possible they would have turned out stupid without pot-I dont know.

Make it legal already.


Although I dont do any kind of drugs now, I smoked it a little in the past. Its apparently not for me......I end up having a laughing fit about absolutely nothing, cant carry on a conversation,and then I slip into a coma and sleep. I also used to think I was the highest one in the room and that everyone was focusing on that fact...paranoid to the max. Urg....none for me thanks, but yeah make it legal and put the money towards something useful.
:eek:





only a little? :p ;)

Grow it, package it, tax the crap out of it, legislate it, and let all the poor bastards nabbed for a dimebag out of prison...

:eek:





only a little? :p ;)

*changes "a little" to "some"*

I'm was super fun (they tell me) when I smoked! And I would always end up cooking huge meals for everyone after I woke up after my comatose sleep. I made 16 omlets with toast, hashbrowns, pancakes and bacon one night since we all had the munchies.

*changes "a little" to "some"*

I'm was super fun (they tell me) when I smoked! And I would always end up cooking huge meals for everyone after I woke up after my comatose sleep. I made 16 omlets with toast, hashbrowns, pancakes and bacon one night since we all had the munchies.
:eek: coooooooooool :cool:

NS's potheads should come round here for a royal smoke-out! you can be chef ;) :p

*changes "a little" to "some"*

I'm was super fun (they tell me) when I smoked! And I would always end up cooking huge meals for everyone after I woke up after my comatose sleep. I made 16 omlets with toast, hashbrowns, pancakes and bacon one night since we all had the munchies.
:D

I usually too lazy to make any food.

:D

I usually too lazy to make any food.
breakfast cerial rocks ;)

milk...cerial....spoon....done!!

:eek: coooooooooool :cool:

NS's potheads should come round here for a royal smoke-out! you can be chef ;) :p


word up PM.....I may not smoke anymore , but I can cook my ass off. I love cooking. Yeah...round up all the smokies and I'll have a super munchie feast waiting for y'all.

word up PM.....I may not smoke anymore , but I can cook my ass off. I love cooking. Yeah...round up all the smokies and I'll have a super munchie feast waiting for y'all.
w000t! :p

Omlettes! YUM! I smoked a LOT in college. I mean the guy on the Zig-Zag papers had a tatoo of ME on HIS arm. Now I'm working, have responsibilities and too much to risk to play around with taking the chance. Check out http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm for the current amount spent THIS YEAR on the war on drugs. Seriously, how do you counteract a basic human need, to escape its own reality. It all starts the first time we spin around until we get dizzy. Are you going to label merry-go-rounds as a "gateway drug?"

Marijuana, along with all other drugs, should be legalized, taxed, and put into the hands of the pharmaceuticals, so they can make a regulated product that won't have as many bad side effects as the raw stuff. Then, you lose the problems of: the black market, over-crowded prisons, deficit (imagine the tax revenue on this stuff), etc.

The only problem i can foresee is how the people who are high could potentially harm/kill those who aren't. DUI's may be more common, but you could fix that by creating extremely stiff penalties, thus making people think just a little before getting into the car while high.

But, as long as I'm not forced to do drugs, and I'm not hurt in any way by those doing drugs, who am I to tell them not to do it?

breakfast cerial rocks ;)

milk...cerial....spoon....done!!
I'll try to think of it next time (probably tonight :eek: )

I don't particularly care one way or the other. Do whatever you want to your body, so long as you don't run to the NHS for help afterwards. Potheads and drunkards as bad as each other. At least if the stuff is legal the police won't have to spend as much time arresting people for using it.

Hey at least you know where you stand legally....here in the UK they just don't have a clue...

Last year they downgraded marijuana to a class C...so while it's still technically illegal the cops are meant to not care if you smoke as long as you abide by certain rules - not selling, only in your house etc.

Now they're worried about the new strains of "super" skunk turning up and are debating whether to make skunk a class B drug, they might even U-turn all together and bring it back up to class B (Don't know if you have the class system in America or if this is making any sense to any of ya at all)

anyhoo make it legal - it don't kill anyone, the government would make a bundle in tax obviously kids shouldn't smoke it and no way should you drive whilst stoned but it's so much nicer being around stoned people than drunk people

I'll try to think of it next time (probably tonight :eek: )
the best part is, put too much milk in & you've got a drink to cure drymouth later in the evening as well :)

Omlettes! YUM! I smoked a LOT in college. I mean the guy on the Zig-Zag papers had a tatoo of ME on HIS arm. Now I'm working, have responsibilities and too much to risk to play around with taking the chance. Check out http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm for the current amount spent THIS YEAR on the war on drugs. Seriously, how do you counteract a basic human need, to escape its own reality. It all starts the first time we spin around until we get dizzy. Are you going to label merry-go-rounds as a "gateway drug?"


lol @ zig zag comment.

I'm all for it being legalized. Just make it 18+. Now about an NS royal smokeout, I'm down. Smokin' is one of my top five hobbies.

Purple...
I haven't figured out how to use the quote thigy yet...too much pot in college I guess...
In the states we have a "schedule" system, very similar. They really want to differentiate the strains ...lol

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Some call it tampee
Some call it the weed
Some call it Marijuana
Some of them call it Ganja

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Singer smoke it
And players of instruments too
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
That's the best thing you can do
Doctors smoke it
Nurses smoke it
Judges smoke it
Even the lawyers too

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

It's good for the flu
It's good for asthma
Good for tuberculosis
Even umara composis

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Bird eat it
And they leave it
Fowls eat it
Goats love to play with it
Works for me. :)

but it's so much nicer being around stoned people than drunk people

It'd be even nicer getting rid of both of them.

stoned people are nice, quiet & considerate. drunk people are loud, violent and obnoxious.


yay stoners!

Legalize it, sell it in regulated stores It could then be taxed-the money going to fund campaigns against other more dangerous drugs and rehabilitation programs.

stoned people are nice, quiet & considerate. why thank you. we surely are :)

If anyone has seen my previous posts, you will probably be surprised that I take the liberal view on this one. Roll that Sh## pass that Sh## smoke that Sh## ! The problem is I dont think it will happen in the US for a long time if ever. Heres why
1) Drug companies would loose billions- Pot can be used as an anti-drepessant, sleep aid, pain reliever and boost your hunger. Think of all the products out right now that do that and how much the drug companies make. They will alway petition and "encourage" politicians of both Parties to ensure that pot remains illegal.
2) Look at who is in prison right now. A large percentage of prisoners are minorities and quite a large amount of these minorities are in prison for drugs.
Keeping these drugs illegal keeps the status quo intact. If it became legal, why half the prison population would be free. Lower class individuals would now be able to try to up their positions in the economy making it harder for the white upper class to stay upper class

Marijuana is relativly harmless compared to smoking or booze, but remains illegal, why? Politics

stoned people are nice, quiet & considerate. drunk people are loud, violent and obnoxious.

stoned people are laughing histerically and always want to explain their brilliant idea they had. drunk people are sleeping it off in a corner or they tell me that they "love you man".

Yay for Drunks!

2) Look at who is in prison right now. A large percentage of prisoners are minorities and quite a large amount of these minorities are in prison for drugs.
Keeping these drugs illegal keeps the status quo intact. If it became legal, why half the prison population would be free. Lower class individuals would now be able to try to up their positions in the economy making it harder for the white upper class to stay upper class
Also lots of the prison workers would lose jobs if there was a sudden drop in prison population. Many times prisons are the main economy of the town.

Marijuana is relativly harmless compared to smoking or booze, but remains illegal, why? Politics

Can explain further why you think it's politics thats involved? I'm curious.

I would think it's more of lack of research on it. But like all things including alcohol and smoking or paracetamol's, taken in large amounts is still bad for health, and when will people learn to control. Then the debate on how addictive it really is.

Marijuana is relativly harmless compared to smoking or booze, but remains illegal, why? Politics

Hear hear! The funny thing about the whole situation is: not only are US politics keeping budda illegal down there, they are keeping it illegal (or at least keeping it decriminalized) up here in Canada too. Our politicians are so afraid of pissing off the States, it's unbelieveable. However, recently we've had some breakthroughs. Give another five to ten years and our beloved little plant will be legal in the Great White North.

Can't wait to see how many people hop over the border to spend their money when THAT time comes. Ha Ha! :D

stoned people are nice, quiet & considerate. drunk people are loud, violent and obnoxious.


yay stoners!
Your absolutely right! yay stoners!
:sniper:

Easily avoided if you could just LEGALLY grow it in your garden
My thoughts excactly

Marajuana should be legalised everywhere and available for over-18s to buy and smoke.

Here's my idea. Legalise marijuana or ban beer. Both are about as intoxicating.
What about wine, vodka, whiskey, etc? Those are even more intoxicating!

Hear hear! The funny thing about the whole situation is: not only are US politics keeping budda illegal down there, they are keeping it illegal (or at least keeping it decriminalized) up here in Canada too. Our politicians are so afraid of pissing off the States, it's unbelieveable. However, recently we've had some breakthroughs. Give another five to ten years and our beloved little plant will be legal in the Great White North.

Can't wait to see how many people hop over the border to spend their money when THAT time comes. Ha Ha! :D

I heard a conspiracy theory that said they illegalized mari b/c it could be used to make paper cheaper and cleaner than the current method. It was really just a way to crap on the minorities and insure more business for a big-name timber felling company

I am part of the UN but if my peps want to smoke this ( Black panthers 911) I say let them its thier lives way run it for them? and i say if the USA is a free country shouldn't we be free to say what we want and our peps can have what they want. if they want (pot) let them have it. ;):D

Marajuana should be legalised everywhere and available for over-18s to buy and smoke.


What about wine, vodka, whiskey, etc? Those are even more intoxicating!
Really true but the riches like it and the riches get what the riches want you hear what im saying? and I my self like a glass of wine now and then. even more after a bad day at the UN office. so drop this sub . we'r not here to talk about beer wer here to talk about pot stick to the sub. OK? :upyours:

I say let's conduct a study on the properties of marijuana and get the scientific facts about it'S effect on a human.

I have seen people using it without any problems. I have seen people using it loosing some of their mental capacities from smoking too much of the stuff.

I am leaning for nay right now.

Every friggin' president since Nixon has commissioned a study and they've all said the same thing, marijuana is no more harmful than cigarettes or alcohol. Then the president in question pushes it under the rug and complains about scientists being too dumb to scientificly verify the politically convinient.

YAY!!

I heard a conspiracy theory that said they illegalized mari b/c it could be used to make paper cheaper and cleaner than the current method. It was really just a way to crap on the minorities and insure more business for a big-name timber felling company

Hemp could make paper cheaper, marijuana is a free pain killer.

It wasn't banned as a way to crap on minorities, crapping on minorities was the strategy for banning it because mexican immigrants and sailors smoked it in greater proportion than the rest of the country so it was billed as a threat to the American way of life.

Then of course there was "Reefer Madness."

YOu shouldn't ban something just because it's bad for you. It's a personal choice. If someone wants to be stupid, let them be stupid. The government has absolutely no right to ban marijuaina.

I have a question. (sorry if it's asked already, didn't bother to read all the posts)
Is smoking weed common in your country? Here it really isn't, but considering
all the posts about it and movies (ok, really not a good ex.) it seems really
'natural' in somewhere

If you bother to aswer remember to write your country! Thanks!

The US should follow our lead here in Canada and decriminalize it and start working towards legalising it.

YOu shouldn't ban something just because it's bad for you. It's a personal choice. If someone wants to be stupid, let them be stupid. The government has absolutely no right to ban marijuaina.

By that logic, dueling should be legal. How about blood sports? As long as all people involved choose to do so, why should the government try and stop them? Perhaps we should allow anyone who wants to commit suicide to do so, no matter what age they are? After all, "it's a personal choice." Never mind if there might be extenuating circumstance that mean the person making that choice might make a different choice if they were thinking straight...

i dont see why it hasnt already been legalized. as soon as it is the government can regulate and tax it. imagine the amount of money that could be generated from taxing marijuana. and tho this is a bit off topic, i dont see why other drugs arent legalized as well. i think that if a person wants to go out and risk their own life doing drugs that they should have a right to do that. obviously there is a possibilty of them injuring other people while they are intoxicated but its no more of a risk than with alcohol, or even with things that dont cause intoxication but do distract people from dirving and such, like cellphones.

I say let's conduct a study on the properties of marijuana and get the scientific facts about it'S effect on a human.

I have seen people using it without any problems. I have seen people using it loosing some of their mental capacities from smoking too much of the stuff.

I am leaning for nay right now.

Yale and Harvard spent $100k's of dollars during the late 60's early 70's studying the effects of weed, and found it was less harmful than alchohol.

The Le Dain Commision (Canadian Government Inquiry) recommended that pot be decriminalized in 1971.

My position is that pot is a boring hippy love drug. Smoked only by idiots. I hate it's effects, my eyes burn, I can't speak, I just want to eat (too much) and go to sleep. I never smoke that shit.

But I'm for full legalization. Reasons? No one ever got stoned and beat their wife. Another is that, as you may have guessed I used to smoke pot, when I quit, it was easy, not the least withdrawal pang. When I quit drinking regularly, I suffered mild, but consisten withdrawal pangs, and when I quit smoking it was a fucking nightmare.

So, it's been established that it's healthier than beer, both physically and socially and it's non-addictive. Legalize now!!

I heard a conspiracy theory that said they illegalized mari b/c it could be used to make paper cheaper and cleaner than the current method. It was really just a way to crap on the minorities and insure more business for a big-name timber felling company

Actually, it goes far beyond just paper... The Constitution of the Untited States of America is written on Hemp Paper.

It also makes durable fibers for making heavy clothing. Hemp seed oil can be used for burning in wick type lighting, as well as has several other uses.

And, contrary to what some have asked about studying it more, it is one of the most studied substances known to man. They have been testing it for over four decades now. You don't hear much about the results of such studies because the results do not support the Governments continued assertions about Marijuana.

It is going to be up to the Public to educate themselves on this one. And the Government seems to be doing everything in its power to thwart any effort by the Public on this, why do you suppose that is?

And when we have answered that question, perhaps we will look into when they "gave themselves" the power to do what they are doing, here in the U.S

Regards,
Gaar

It is actually pretty tame stuff - both in terms of good and bad effects. I suppose one argument against might be that the government would tax the living fuck out of it, and thus all the 'Free the Herb' guys might actually find it less available. I suppose the market would be flooded with it anyway, so it wouldn't be a problem. If I'm being vague, it's because, as with so many of the popular debates, I hate both of the sides involved and in all honesty, I don't see the need for it: it's such a low priority for police at the moment that it hardly seems worth changing the law.

I (as a person who does not partake) used to be firmly in the camp of legalization. The government can license growers and venders, sin tax the hell out of it, and leave it to people to decide how much is enough, just like alcohol and (once upon a time, until the witchhunts started) cigarettes.

However, the vast majority of people I know who smoke pot have a problem. They smoke it all the fucking time. They smoke it to the exclusion of having money for necessities. Or, if they can balance their budget and still get their stuff, they're high all the fucking time.

Now, if I were back in the days of Prohibition, and every advocate I met for a repeal of the amendment was a raging alcoholic or drinking even when on the job, I might be swayed to thinking that perhaps alcohol should remain illegal. So you might see how this has affected my judgement on the matter.

Don't get me wrong, I know that there are people who just smoke a little weed on the weekends to relax, just like people go out and have a few drinks. I'm just saying that they've been outnumbered by the stupid potheads I know...

I believe that the Drug Laws in the United States of America are Unconstitutional, and should be challenged as such. There are several Constitutional Rights that are being ignored in executing Drug Laws here in the U.S., not least of which is a persons Right to face an Accuser.

You have the Right to face the person to which you have done harm, in a Court of Law, and have them give witness to how you have harmed them. The State stands in for such a witness ONLY when the witness cannot stand in for themselves, for obvious reasons, i.e. murder and the like. This challenge would assert that the Government has NO RIGHT, expressed or otherwise, in the Constitution to make Laws which make a crime out of something that does not infringe on "someone's" Right's...

And that is just where we should start. There are a few other things they do, under the auspices of the Drug Laws that further subvert our Constitutional Right's, like illegal search and seizure. If you have infringed on no one else's Rights where do they have the Right, Constitutionally, to infringe on my Privacy?

We could go on and on and on, but it is going to be up to all of us to learn for ourselves what our Government will not tell us and it is time we held EVERYONE within the Government accountable for their actions and start asking...

WHY?

Why does the U.S. imprison a larger not just percentage but the largest number of its own citizen, BAR NONE!?!?

70% plus are in prison for our Drug Law's. We are approaching having 1 in every 100 U.S. citizens in jail for Drugs, we have already surpassed that number as an overall total.

So how many are we willing to jail, how many are we willing to become a burden to Society rather than a productive (or perhaps not so productive, but at least not a burden) member of Society?!?!

Why?!?!?!?

Regards,
Gaar

It is actually pretty tame stuff - both in terms of good and bad effects. I suppose one argument against might be that the government would tax the living fuck out of it, and thus all the 'Free the Herb' guys might actually find it less available. I suppose the market would be flooded with it anyway, so it wouldn't be a problem. If I'm being vague, it's because, as with so many of the popular debates, I hate both of the sides involved and in all honesty, I don't see the need for it: it's such a low priority for police at the moment that it hardly seems worth changing the law.

It's because you don't understand what it REALLY costs Society.

How much do you suppose the average U.S. family pays to imprison 70% of all the people in prison because of Drug Laws?

And that's just for starters...

Regards,
Gaar

I (as a person who does not partake) used to be firmly in the camp of legalization. The government can license growers and venders, sin tax the hell out of it, and leave it to people to decide how much is enough, just like alcohol and (once upon a time, until the witchhunts started) cigarettes.

However, the vast majority of people I know who smoke pot have a problem. They smoke it all the fucking time. They smoke it to the exclusion of having money for necessities. Or, if they can balance their budget and still get their stuff, they're high all the fucking time.

Now, if I were back in the days of Prohibition, and every advocate I met for a repeal of the amendment was a raging alcoholic or drinking even when on the job, I might be swayed to thinking that perhaps alcohol should remain illegal. So you might see how this has affected my judgement on the matter.

Don't get me wrong, I know that there are people who just smoke a little weed on the weekends to relax, just like people go out and have a few drinks. I'm just saying that they've been outnumbered by the stupid potheads I know...

Actually, if you go look at your History, you will find that the same reasoning was given for Alcohol Prohibition...

Now, my question to you is... Where do you find any Constitutional Authority to tell someone what they may do in the Privacy of their own Home if they are infringing on no one else's Right's?

Regards,
Gaar

I say it should be legal if you are 18 or older..i mean people are gonna smoke it if it's legal or not...so why not just legalize it! If you want to smoke weed you should be able to....

I say let's conduct a study on the properties of marijuana and get the scientific facts about it'S effect on a human.

I have seen people using it without any problems. I have seen people using it loosing some of their mental capacities from smoking too much of the stuff.

I am leaning for nay right now.

Already done. It is more well studied than even Tobacco.

And it is being argued that, people who "loose it" after smoking for some period, were likely people who would have "lost it" no matter what "vice" they chose. That the number of people who use marijuana and have such problems is only slightly higher than the rate that people just loose it anyway, regardless of their use of anything.

Regards,
Gaar

I say it should be legal if you are 18 or older..i mean people are gonna smoke it if it's legal or not...so why not just legalize it! If you want to smoke weed you should be able to....

Let's not confuse the Issues here.

The question I believe should first and foremost be Legalization.

This is because I also believe it IS the Governments Right to "regulate" (that IS in the Constitution for them to do) the use as to the Public welfare...

In other words, you find intoxicant levels, as we have with Alcohol, and say that people are not allowed to do things when they are "Marijuana Intoxicated", that IS something that should be done, no ifs ands or buts.

All I am saying is that they have no Right, here in the U.S., garnered from our Constitution to make it outright illegal. They can regulate it all they like (within reason), but not outlaw it.

Regards,
Gaar

Actually, if you go look at your History, you will find that the same reasoning was given for Alcohol Prohibition...

Right, but the difference is, I'm actually seeing these people, and they do have a problem. I'm not saying that the people I know are representative of the norm, but they sure as hell do seem to be. Then there are the ones that I don't see, but encounter casually. I cringe every time I see some poor 16 year old sod with a screenname like stoner420 who has to bring marijuana into every conversation or mention how he'd like to give a clear, intelligent answer to a question, but he's too stoned right now...

Now, my question to you is... Where do you find any Constitutional Authority to tell someone what they may do in the Privacy of their own Home if they are infringing on no one else's Right's?

I suppose that would depend on whether you consider it an infringement of an employers rights if his workers don't arrive to work on time, or at all, due to being under the influence of drugs. Granted, this is only one example, but I think it's valid.

I suppose that would depend on whether you consider it an infringement of an employers rights if his workers don't arrive to work on time, or at all, due to being under the influence of drugs. Granted, this is only one example, but I think it's valid.

Yes, and you can set up Laws to check such things, and actually businesses that have use of Heavy Machinery already do...

But again, you may regulate its use in any way you see fit. But why does everyone have to pay, simply because YOU believe that some people may abuse it, like Alcohol?

Regards,
Gaar

speaking of marijuana law... if you live in the EU this may be of interest :)

http://www.cannabis-assembly.co.uk/

I'm a socialist libertarian, but I say NO on marijuana. Drugs, pah, I've been indoctrined to say no. Brainwashed to say no. You should see English science teachers. They worship teetotalism and the like, like a god.

Besides, I say no not just because the adults tell you to say no, but because I genuinely hate drugs. They ruin lives.

Are you people insane! (well, yeah) DONT DO DRUGS :eek: Drugs kill! :sniper:

:sniper:

I voted yes - but only at a certain age.
I felt that marijuana should have been legal a long time ago - for medicinal purposes and for those that meet the age requirement.

I support full legalization. (as here in Canada should've done so ages ago if not for the States). I'm guessing that conspiracy regarding the paper industry was more real than I thought.

How a few believe they have some Right to force others to live by their Values, without explaining where they believe they garner such a Right, at least here in the U.S.

You may live by whatever Morals you like, but you have no Right to force them on others.

Regards,
Gaar

How a few believe they have some Right to force others to live by their Values, without explaining where they believe they garner such a Right, at least here in the U.S.

You may live by whatever Morals you like, but you have no Right to force them on others.

Regards,
Gaar

Sure you do. The constitution gave you the right to legislate your morality through the legislative branch.

How a few believe they have some Right to force others to live by their Values, without explaining where they believe they garner such a Right, at least here in the U.S.

You may live by whatever Morals you like, but you have no Right to force them on others.

Regards,
Gaar

If the government went by this then there would be no laws at all. How, without forcing their morals onto other people, could they make murder a crime if some people believe it's OK?

I voted the first option, mainly so that you guys *takes a big puff* will like chill out man :p

any toker worth his salt will love this [accent] http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409180 :)

If the government went by this then there would be no laws at all. How, without forcing their morals onto other people, could they make murder a crime if some people believe it's OK?

How is that not infringing on someone else's Right's?

Your Right's end where my Rights begin and vice versa.

Something about that you don't understand?

Regards,
Gaar

Sure you do. The constitution gave you the right to legislate your morality through the legislative branch.

Sorry, you are wrong.

Or perhaps you would care to SHOW ME where, so that I just don't have to take your word for it?

The Constitution "restricts" the Rights of the State, not the people.

Regards,
Gaar

I used to be one of those "damn potheads" but have been drug free for 7 years now, cigarette free for 5 years now, and alcohol free now for almost 4 years now. I am proud of it too. (It was the American Indian in me that I blame for getting so damn addicted to everything). Anyway, thought it was funny when my doctor tried to prescribe medical marijuana to me for my fibro (fibromyalgia--don't ask me what it is. If you don't know, go to WebMD and look it up yourself). I told him, not unless you want me abusing it. ;)

How is that not infringing on someone else's Right's?

Your Right's end where my Rights begin and vice versa.

Something about that you don't understand?

Regards,
Gaar

Gah, this could have been an interesting discussion but if you're going to give me smart-arse comments like that then you are on your own.