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I feel argumentative

Down System
30-03-2005, 14:09
Who's got a topic we can seriously debate about? Something that I can get passionate about. I'm seriously bored and I don't know what to debate. Any serious suggestions?
See u Jimmy
30-03-2005, 14:26
Who's got a topic we can seriously debate about? Something that I can get passionate about. I'm seriously bored and I don't know what to debate. Any serious suggestions?
Well your not arguing with ME.
No way.
Whatever the topic
:D
Sanctaphrax
30-03-2005, 14:28
Israel seems to be a firm favourite of most forum members.:rolleyes:
Down System
30-03-2005, 14:35
Yes well being an Australian, I'm not terribly cultured on this subject, but I must admit I'm sick of the US taking sides.
Jester III
30-03-2005, 14:56
Conspiracy of the gay, black, muslim, communist, zionist hunchbacks to bring down the USofA with abortion clinics, banning guns and capital punishment.
Scouserlande
30-03-2005, 15:00
Who's got a topic we can seriously debate about? Something that I can get passionate about. I'm seriously bored and I don't know what to debate. Any serious suggestions?

The existence of the soul, i havent seen a thread on that yet.
Down System
30-03-2005, 15:03
Conspiracy of the gay - Nonexistant. Conservative paranoia.

Black - It's a colour, what of it?

Muslim - Islam. Just an extra testament on the bible.

Communist - System of government. Works well in theory. Wouldn't have a problem with it if mankind wasn't so corrupt.

Zionist hunchbacks to bring down the USofA with abortion clinics - Sounds like a lie to me. Don't even know what zionism is to be honest.

Banning guns - Bit on the fence with this issue. People have a right to own them, but man really shouldn't be given any more power than he has to take life.

Capital punishment - Actually this is something I could get riled up about. In relation to the Schiavo case, Bush said America should always choose the side of life when he's Pro-War and Pro-Death Penalty. The man's a fucking hypocrite and should be taken down to the docks and be beaten with a large fish!
Nirvana Temples
30-03-2005, 15:04
ok then, lets throw down ;)
Down System
30-03-2005, 15:04
The existence of the soul, i havent seen a thread on that yet.

Actually I'll do that. Sounds interesting.
Randomea
30-03-2005, 15:08
5 shillings first.
Thankyou. You'd like to have an argument? Well I'm not arguing with you. no I'm not. I'm not....
Carnivorous Lickers
30-03-2005, 15:08
Conspiracy of the gay - Nonexistant. Conservative paranoia.

Black - It's a colour, what of it?







Ok-you've got an argument- its "color" NOT "colour", damnit!!!
See u Jimmy
30-03-2005, 15:10
Ok-you've got an argument- its "color" NOT "colour", damnit!!!

Learn to spell you damn American, colour. Say the word it's not Co-lor. :D
Greater Yubari
30-03-2005, 15:12
I remember Zionists being Jews somewhere at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century, who wanted their own country, a jewish country, like Israel today. Cause Zion was the name of one of the hills of Jerusalem, on which the city of David was built, and which became the centre of Jewish life and worship; in biblical and derived use, allusively for: The house or household of God; and hence connoting variously, the Israelites and their religious system, the Christian Church, heaven as the final home of believers, a place of worship or meeting-house.

How's about this.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Down System
30-03-2005, 15:12
Ok-you've got an argument- its "color" NOT "colour", damnit!!!

COLOUR!!! Bloody lazy yanks...
Nova Castlemilk
30-03-2005, 15:18
Ok-you've got an argument- its "color" NOT "colour", damnit!!!
Don't you know how to write proper English? America lazily took out the "u", so how about "U" putting it back!
Helennia
30-03-2005, 15:21
I also agree ... coloUr. :) Muahahah!

But actually the spelling with out the U is closer to the Latin root, while that with the U is closer to French. So it all depends on whether you'd rather be speaking Latin or French...
Free dreamers
30-03-2005, 15:21
Ok-you've got an argument- its "color" NOT "colour", damnit!!!

this is what we can call "discrimination internalized". color and colour is the same; just as black and white.
Carnivorous Lickers
30-03-2005, 15:24
Don't you know how to write proper English? America lazily took out the "u", so how about "U" putting it back!


See-this thread might live after all. "Proper English" ? Is that what you speak? We can barely understand you. I've heard of a proper english breakfast, but it seems my dog wasnt even interested in it.
Nova Castlemilk
30-03-2005, 15:28
See-this thread might live after all. "Proper English" ? Is that what you speak? We can barely understand you. I've heard of a proper english breakfast, but it seems my dog wasnt even interested in it.
I note also. you can barely understand the inherent humour in my quip....You're not American by any chanch?
Carnivorous Lickers
30-03-2005, 15:28
I also agree ... coloUr. :) Muahahah!

But actually the spelling with out the U is closer to the Latin root, while that with the U is closer to French. So it all depends on whether you'd rather be speaking Latin or French...


I'd rather speak in a series of clicks pops and whistles than speak french.
Helennia
30-03-2005, 15:28
See-this thread might live after all. "Proper English" ? Is that what you speak? We can barely understand you. I've heard of a proper english breakfast, but it seems my dog wasnt even interested in it.I went over to England for a month last year to visit family, and after a week of eating the "Full English Breakfast" (minus black pudding *shudders*) I was sure I could feel my arteries clogging.
I wouldn't dream of feeding that to ANYONE - my breakfast involves muesli and yoghurt, not congealed fat...
That said, England's a beautiful place.


*whistle click pop*
Carnivorous Lickers
30-03-2005, 15:31
I note also. you can barely understand the inherent humour in my quip....You're not American by any chanch?


Yes-by chanch, I certainly am American. Everything I have posted is jest as well, as is the whole idea of the thread. I love bleedin' limeys!!!
All kidding aside- I only meant to be funny and sarcastic. I have nothing against you or your country-quite the contrary. Dont take any personal offense from my rude humor. Sorry-"humour".
SSGX
30-03-2005, 15:33
Learn to spell you damn American, colour. Say the word it's not Co-lor. :D

Well, the average American pronounces it like "cull-er"... And "color" is correct for that pronunciation... "Colour" would sound like "cull-lure"...

So yeah, you just keep wasting your time by adding useless letters to your words...lol
Carnivorous Lickers
30-03-2005, 15:33
I went over to England for a month last year to visit family, and after a week of eating the "Full English Breakfast" (minus black pudding *shudders*) I was sure I could feel my arteries clogging.
I wouldn't dream of feeding that to ANYONE - my breakfast involves muesli and yoghurt, not congealed fat...
That said, England's a beautiful place.


*whistle click pop*


I concur. And I thought you specifically would enjoy a little Aboriginal humor.
See u Jimmy
30-03-2005, 15:40
this is what we can call "discrimination internalized". color and colour is the same; just as black and white.

You wear all black at night on a busy road. You'll know the difference then.
See u Jimmy
30-03-2005, 15:42
Well, the average American pronounces it like "cull-er"... And "color" is correct for that pronunciation... "Colour" would sound like "cull-lure"...

So yeah, you just keep wasting your time by adding useless letters to your words...lol


Er if you say Cull-er how can it be spelt correctly color? Culler should be right then.

It's not called English for nothing. :D
Nova Castlemilk
30-03-2005, 15:55
Yes-by chanch, I certainly am American. Everything I have posted is jest as well, as is the whole idea of the thread. I love bleedin' limeys!!!
All kidding aside- I only meant to be funny and sarcastic. I have nothing against you or your country-quite the contrary. Dont take any personal offense from my rude humor. Sorry-"humour".
That's okay you say "sit down on your fanny and use your eraser... and I say thats a particularly obsene comment......lol
See u Jimmy
30-03-2005, 15:59
I concur. And I thought you specifically would enjoy a little Aboriginal humor.

Aboriginal? your American Indian then?

just joking of course, We love our american cousins (espcially the cute ones :p )
SSGX
30-03-2005, 16:14
Er if you say Cull-er how can it be spelt correctly color? Culler should be right then.

And I agree... "Culler" would work just fine... However, we're still stuck with all of these holdovers from "proper" English, and "colour" was one of them (well, it came from French, and is passed to us through English, but meh)...

At least we've been sensible enough to remove the extraneous letter (because, like I said, leaving the U in would make it sound like "cull-lure", which is just plain wrong), and wind up with something halfway decent...

The "color" spelling can remain, though, if you rationalize it as:

The first o is pronounced as in "governor" or "of"... A soft "u" sound...

The second o is also pronounced much the same way (my example pronunciation could also be spelled "cull-ur", the two are virtually interchangeable when we say them)... The same thing happens to the o in words like "for" (comes out like "fer" or "fur") or "correct" ("currect")... No, this isn't the "proper" way to pronounce the o in these words... However, in general American speech, they are not pronounced as full O's, and often come out like soft e's or u's...

But regardless, leaving in the U would wind up making that last syllable WAY over-pronounced, and it would sound like "cull-lure" or "cull-loor"... Not desirable... So, "color" was what was settled on...

[Edit:] Alternatively, that extra U could also make it sound like "sour" or "hour"... "Col-hour"? Again, not good...

It's not called English for nothing. :D

Which is why we in the states speak American English... A similar, yet distinct dialect of English... Like Mandarin Chinese...
Carnivorous Lickers
30-03-2005, 16:15
Aboriginal? your American Indian then?

just joking of course, We love our american cousins (espcially the cute ones :p )


No-just American. No American Indian in me at all. I'm certainly not "cute", but I'll settle for you just a little liking rather than the love.
Carnivorous Lickers
30-03-2005, 16:16
That's okay you say "sit down on your fanny and use your eraser... and I say thats a particularly obsene comment......lol


I'll take your word for it-I dont know what the hell that means.
See u Jimmy
31-03-2005, 10:28
I'll take your word for it-I dont know what the hell that means.

Well Fanny translates as.. What the heck, come over here and find out.

as to the letter o sounding like a u :eek:

They are completly different sounds and mouth shapes. If you carry on like this you are going to have only 20 letters in the alphabet.

PS how do you deal with nut and not?
Armed Bookworms
31-03-2005, 10:51
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
This is the stupidest question ever. Period. Unless you believe that god spontaneously created every animal in the world. In which case it would be the chicken. Otherwise, it would be the egg.
See u Jimmy
31-03-2005, 11:32
This is the stupidest question ever. Period. Unless you believe that god spontaneously created every animal in the world. In which case it would be the chicken. Otherwise, it would be the egg.


But what laid the egg?
The Royal Windsors
31-03-2005, 11:50
I went over to England for a month last year to visit family, and after a week of eating the "Full English Breakfast" (minus black pudding *shudders*) I was sure I could feel my arteries clogging.
I wouldn't dream of feeding that to ANYONE - my breakfast involves muesli and yoghurt, not congealed fat...
That said, England's a beautiful place.


*whistle click pop*
lol im english through and through and trust me, there aint many of us that can manage a proper full english very often, i may have one 3 times a year! mostly its just cerial or toast, having said that you cant beat a good sausage sarni smothered in ketchup first thing in a morning mmmmmmmmmmmmm :)
Bitchkitten
31-03-2005, 11:53
Learn to spell you damn American, colour. Say the word it's not Co-lor. :D

It's col-or. And nobody should take spelling lessons from someone who can't spell "you." :rolleyes:
See u Jimmy
31-03-2005, 13:14
It's col-or. And nobody should take spelling lessons from someone who can't spell "you." :rolleyes:

True, the USA the nation that gave us the word "Ya" as an alternative to you.

Ah, The nation with the guy Co-lon Powell. Known to the rest of the world as Col-in, said as spelt.
Bitchkitten
31-03-2005, 13:34
True, the USA the nation that gave us the word "Ya" as an alternative to you.

Ah, The nation with the guy Co-lon Powell. Known to the rest of the world as Col-in, said as spelt.


Ya'll just don't know how to speak english over yonder. :p

And do ya'll really say "spelt" over there? I just assumed you couldn't spell "spelled."
Randomea
31-03-2005, 13:50
But what laid the egg?
The dinosaur of course.
Spikerfluff
31-03-2005, 13:58
the general opinion is the egg always comes first

from an egg can come a new species but a new species cannot come from nothing

there fore as the world was evolving a dinasour type bird thing could lay an egg that was in fact not exactly like itself therefore continually producing something closer to a chicken as we ambled along


ho hum

:)


hope that helps xxx
SSGX
31-03-2005, 14:08
Well Fanny translates as.. What the heck, come over here and find out.

as to the letter o sounding like a u :eek:

They are completly different sounds and mouth shapes. If you carry on like this you are going to have only 20 letters in the alphabet.

PS how do you deal with nut and not?

Heh, we don't do it with every instance of these letters... For instance, "nut" and "not" are pronounced as distinctly as you say them (in fact, awfully close to the way you say them, aside from obvious accent differences)...

But in lots of specific instances, we de-emphasize the enunciation of certain letters or syllables, and come out with sounds that are different than the spelling would normally indicate...

But of course, this is no special thing... The letter "o" (most letters, actually, but "o" as an example) is pronounced in many different ways... The "o" in the following words are each pronounced differently than the rest: "of" (like a "u"), "for" [often like a soft "e" or soft "u" if we're speaking in a relaxed manner (sounding much like the word "fur" as in animal hair), but like the usual "o" if we're trying to remain proper (as in "fore"/"four")], "on" (as an "ah" sound), [b]to[/i] (sounding as "ooh"), etc...

Most letters have multiple pronunciations (heh, for good measure, the first "o" in that word is the long "oh" sound), based on where and how they're used... And in many of these cases, the pronounciation used is arbitrary, and doesn't follow any rule other than common practice...

And in words like "color", the common practice is to pronounce it as "culler"/"cullur"... So again, having an extra "u" in there royally messes that up... Same with "behavior" (behave-yur), "favorite" (fave-urit), etc...
Randomea
31-03-2005, 14:29
Well that just proves your massacring(sp?) the language. If you can't say things properly how can you spell it properly?
It's like people saying 'I shud of dun it' - I should've done it. If you say it right you should be able to spell it correctly.
SSGX
31-03-2005, 14:36
But that's not anything that anyone else doesn't do...

Are you telling me that in every instance where you use the letter "o", you pronounce it as an "o"?

Doubtful...

It's just that in some cases, we have different alternate pronunciations than you do... And in some of those cases, we have changed the spelling to reflect that...
Zombie Lagoon
31-03-2005, 14:42
Yeah, and whats with saying Zee, eh?
Bitchkitten
31-03-2005, 14:44
Ha! I'm from Texas. You ain't heard nuthin' yet.

Tar- You have four of them on your car.
Wyar- Thin pieces of metal
Bobbed Wyar- They make fences out of it
Niyen- The number after eight
Tayksus- the state I'm frum :p
Randomea
31-03-2005, 18:35
Bitchkitten, I lived 6 mths in Dallas, apart from the trip to CA over Xmas. You might say it isn't a true drawl, but there was a couple of guys from near Odessa on the Greyhound back and they certainly did have one.
I know y'all!

(and I can't do the accent to save my life, but then my friends couldn't do mine! :D )