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The International Telecommunication Union is one of the most venerable of bureaucracies. Created in 1865 to facilitate telegraph transmissions, its mandate has expanded to include radio and telephone communications.

But the ITU enjoys virtually no influence over the Internet. That remains the province of specialized organizations such as the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN; the Internet Engineering Task Force; the World Wide Web Consortium; and regional address registries.

The ITU, a United Nations agency, would like to change that. "The whole world is looking for a better solution for Internet governance, unwilling to maintain the current situation," Houlin Zhao, director of the ITU's Telecommunication Standardization Bureau, said last year. Zhao, a former government official in China's Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications, has been in his current job since 1999.

Though Zhao is far too diplomatic to state it directly, the ITU's increasing interest in the Internet could presage a power struggle between ITU, ICANN, and perhaps even the U.S. government, which retains some oversight authority over ICANN and appears content with the current structure.
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"People say the Internet flourished because of the absence of government control. I do not agree with this view. I argue that in any country, if the government opposed Internet service, how do you get Internet service?"

Yeah, apparently he doesn't understand a little thing called private enterprise.

That's not a liberal reason. That's not a conservative reason.

That's a DAMNED good reason!!

The last quote by Zhao's a little weird. "People say the internet flourished because of the absence of government control. I do not agree with this view. I argue that in any country, if the government opposed internet service, how do you get internet service?"

Look at it this way. Government opposition of internet service is government control of internet. It's also a situation in which government staying out of the situation would help internet to flourish. His own quote proves him wrong.

What do you mean the lack of government control?

AL GORE INVENTED THE INTERNET.

What do you mean the lack of government control?

AL GORE INVENTED THE INTERNET.

Hardly. The Internet was initially sponsored by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

Vint Cerf could be counted as its inventor.

Yes get your hands off our internet, Chinese government!

Oh goody... Hands off the internet!

such a beautiful acronym: DARPA

Al Gore invented the practice of filing a motion to overturn Florida law to allow vote-counting to go on for far longer than FLORIDA LAW specified that it could.

This goaded the Florida Supreme Court to overturn Florida Law (judicial activism, anyone? legislators legislate...)

thankfully the US Supreme Court got it right, in respect to Florida Law

Al Gore invented the "If we lose, let's try to re-write state law" doctrine

Al Gore invented the "If we lose, let's try to re-write state law" doctrineOkay. You guys realize that Plutophobia was joking, right? Jeez. Someobdy needs a funnybone transplant, stat!

The Internet is the last bastion of free speech. It needs to be protected. I don't hate all the U.N.... but obviously this is a portion that is getting too big for it's britches. We need a 133t hAX0r to take it down.

I'm enjoying Koffi Anon rolling over on his son.

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Yeah, apparently he doesn't understand a little thing called private enterprise.
Eric Idle of Monty Python wrote a song about the FCC a long time ago, in case you haven't heard.

http://www.pythonline.com/plugs/idle/FCCSong.mp3

This U.N. thing doesn't bother me. They have no real authority over U.S. communications now and the FCC bothers me far more than the U.N. does.

Okay. You guys realize that Plutophobia was joking, right? Jeez. Someobdy needs a funnybone transplant, stat!
NO. REALLY.

AL GORE BUILT THE INTERNET. WITH HIS BARE HANDS, I TELL YOU! HE GOT A HAMMER, SOME NAILS, SOME WIRES, AND HE STARTED A'BUILDIN'. Y'ALL SHOULD GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE!

I don't know who Vint Cerf is, but that sounds like a...

COMMUNIST

such a beautiful acronym: DARPA

Al Gore invented the practice of filing a motion to overturn Florida law to allow vote-counting to go on for far longer than FLORIDA LAW specified that it could.

This goaded the Florida Supreme Court to overturn Florida Law (judicial activism, anyone? legislators legislate...)

thankfully the US Supreme Court got it right, in respect to Florida Law

Al Gore invented the "If we lose, let's try to re-write state law" doctrine
I fail to see how overturning a law because it is contrary to the constitution is judicial activism.

That's their JOB!

They didn't write a law on the spot and said "this is howwe're going to do it from now on". Judicial activism is quickly become a buzz word that has no basis in the truth.

NO. REALLY.

AL GORE BUILT THE INTERNET. WITH HIS BARE HANDS, I TELL YOU! HE GOT A HAMMER, SOME NAILS, SOME WIRES, AND HE STARTED A'BUILDIN'. Y'ALL SHOULD GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE!
You know, he never actually claimed to invent the internet. It's a dishonest exaggeration of the statement he actually made. The "liberal" media decided to run with it and make him look like a liar while he was running against bush.

You know, he never actually claimed to invent the internet. It's a dishonest exaggeration of the statement he actually made. The "liberal" media decided to run with it and make him look like a liar while he was running against bush.
Riiiight. And Karl Rove is a "Compassionate Conservative."

You know, he never actually claimed to invent the internet. It's a dishonest exaggeration of the statement he actually made. The "liberal" media decided to run with it and make him look like a liar while he was running against bush.
He never said invented, true, but he did unequivocally state that he created the internet, instead of saying the he helped facilitate the group that created the internet which is what actually happened. He didn't create or invent anything, he just backed those who did.

Oh good, let's re-hash the 2000 Election! Because THAT has never been done before!

Fucking Chinaman.

Oh good, let's re-hash the 2000 Election! Because THAT has never been done before!
Really? So I'm breaking new ground here? In that case, Florida residents who were eligible to vote were denied the right to vote because their names were wrongly added to a list of convicted felons. A disproportionate number of the unlawfully disenfranchized were blacks (who tend to vote Democrat) rather than Cubans (who tend to vote republican).

He never said invented, true, but he did unequivocally state that he created the internet, instead of saying the he helped facilitate the group that created the internet which is what actually happened. He didn't create or invent anything, he just backed those who did.
I NEVER WANT TO HEAR ABOUT AL GORE EVER AGAIN. SO SHUTUP.

I don't know who Vint Cerf is, but that sounds like a...

COMMUNIST
Cerf is cool, damnit!

And the award for World's Fastest Thread Hijacking goes to...this thread!

With a current On-Topic-Index of 33% (OTI is measured by the proportion of total posts that have something to do with the title topic)

And a PHPC (Pre-Hijack-Post-Count) of...3. That's gotta be a new record.