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Goths are Awesome

Germachinia
29-03-2005, 23:03
Well, they are. Their literature is best, their fashion is best, their music is best. I love the morbidness, the emotionality, the mysteriousness. All the other subcultures, as far as I am concerned, for example the Gangstas, the Punks, the Neo-Nazis, the Frat Boys, etc., can take their sub-culture and stuff it up their arse.
Dakini
29-03-2005, 23:07
Yes, nothing like dressing just like a smaller group of people to be an individual.

The only gothic fashion that's rather neat are corsets, but dominatrixes do that better.
Random Kingdom
29-03-2005, 23:14
Yes, Bella Goth is my favourite.

That was supposed to be a joke btw.
Germachinia
29-03-2005, 23:16
Yes, nothing like dressing just like a smaller group of people to be an individual.

The only gothic fashion that's rather neat are corsets, but dominatrixes do that better.

Never said I wanted to be an "individual." And Dakini, I have come to the conclusion you are a full on Feminazi. So go and die.
Ubiqtorate
29-03-2005, 23:18
The Goth's I know are nice once you get past the makeup.
I'm still not sure why tehy feel the need to categorize themselves, but whatever makes you happy, eh?
Dakini
29-03-2005, 23:22
Yes, Bella Goth is my favourite.
From the sims?

And gothic architecure is beautiful...

Never said I wanted to be an "individual." And Dakini, I have come to the conclusion you are a full on Feminazi. So go and die.
So I'm a feminazi because I say that dominatricies pull off corsets better than goth chicks?

Or because I say that men tear men down and women tear women down more often that either group tearing down members of the opposite gender?
Letila
29-03-2005, 23:23
I prefer real deathist music like Komm Süsser Tod (come sweet death), not that clangy death metal. Goths look like the bad guys from Full Metal Alchemist.
The Internet Tough Guy
29-03-2005, 23:23
Goths are just mopey and self-important.
Carnivorous Lickers
29-03-2005, 23:27
dude-I'm so goth I'm dead
The Internet Tough Guy
29-03-2005, 23:29
dude-I'm so goth I'm dead

I've already decomposed.
Random Kingdom
29-03-2005, 23:32
From the sims?
Yup. Except the Goth family isn't my favourite prefab Sims family anyway. For the Sims 1, it's the Hick family. On the Sims 2, it's the Strange Brothers. And this is off-topic so I'll just shut up.

Goths are OK I guess. I'm not a Goth myself, my favourite colour is cream, I like electropop, and I'm not partial to blood, but I am pessimistic and I understand why people would start worshipping the dark arts. In my opinion, God ain't listening to us! Otherwise I would live in Japan, own not only one of each games console and handheld out there but three, and I would already have my own pop band! (Then again, I'm 13, so what chance do I have?)
Jaythewise
29-03-2005, 23:38
When a goth chick actually looks hot then the culture looks ok. Usally goths are fat chicks and acne ridden little dorks. ( the white makeup hides the scars)

however a really hot chick with pierced nipples and hot tats makes the whole lot of em seem so much better.
Carnivorous Lickers
29-03-2005, 23:39
dude-I'm so goth I'm dead


ok-so I'm not goth. But I do love Type O Negative and Moonspell. I have all their cds. And I also have The Nightmare Before Christmas-my sons and I have been addicted since it came out.
New Genoa
29-03-2005, 23:41
You're so conformist.
LazyHippies
29-03-2005, 23:50
Goths are emo-freaks
Super-power
29-03-2005, 23:52
Goths are just mopey and self-important.
*So* true
Jokobee
29-03-2005, 23:54
I don't like Goth. It makes girls look so ugly. I like them in pink tight stuff. :p
Swimmingpool
29-03-2005, 23:55
I like the photography of Yelena Yemchuk which is fairly gothic stuff. What gothic music do you like (please don't say Marylin Mason or Slipknot)?
New Genoa
29-03-2005, 23:55
I don't like Goth. It makes girls look so ugly. I like them in pink tight stuff. :p

Sexist Slime!11!!1 :mad:
Carnivorous Lickers
29-03-2005, 23:57
You're so conformist.


not really. I liked that stuff when most of the people in here were watching "Barney" the dinosaur
Carnivorous Lickers
29-03-2005, 23:57
I don't like Goth. It makes girls look so ugly. I like them in pink tight stuff. :p

and leather with laces. dont forget the leather
Decolace
29-03-2005, 23:58
Well, they are. Their literature is best, their fashion is best, their music is best. I love the morbidness, the emotionality, the mysteriousness. All the other subcultures, as far as I am concerned, for example the Gangstas,the Punks, the Neo-Nazis, the Frat Boys, etc., can take their sub-culture and stuff it up their arse.

'Scuse me? What a confident opinion...

Decolace's Goth Review..
Their Literature- All depressing crap
Their fashion- I've seen better
Their music- All depressing crap.
Their morbidness, emtionality; they're all depressing teenagers who prolly don't get enough attention from mommy and daddy so they cut their wrists and listen to metal.

IMO, The goths can go take their sub-culture and shove it up their arse, because we have enough creeps in this world.
Random Kingdom
30-03-2005, 00:05
Offtopic: Germachinia, is your signature a quote from the beginning of Monty Python and the Holy Grail?

Ontopic: I don't think there's anything wrong with Goths. Except heavy metal music, though. I cannot stand it.
Neo-Anarchists
30-03-2005, 00:07
I prefer real deathist music like Komm Süsser Tod (come sweet death), not that clangy death metal.
Death metal isn't goth music.

Compare:
Death Metal:
"Amongst The Catacombs of Nephren-Ka" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000241VH/qid=1112136857/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl15/103-4975779-8241460?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)

Goth:
"Disintegration" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002H70/ref=cm_bg_d/103-4975779-8241460?v=glance)

Death Metal:
"Domination" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002L3G/qid=1112137213/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-4975779-8241460?v=glance&s=music)

Goth:
"Vision Thing" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002H8P/ref=cm_bg_d/103-4975779-8241460?v=glance)
Erixandria
30-03-2005, 00:14
goths are sooooo lame, they suck. Its like, usually the ones i talk to are just dumb, like really really dumb, it makes me mad how dumb they are. holy shit theyre dumb.
Evil Arch Conservative
30-03-2005, 00:17
Sexist Slime!11!!1 :mad:

Well, when you get past that he does have a point.
Holy Sheep
30-03-2005, 00:17
goths are sooooo lame, they suck. Its like, usually the ones i talk to are just dumb, like really really dumb, it makes me mad how dumb they are. holy shit theyre dumb.
This guy is calling others dumb.
Need I say more?
Armed Bookworms
30-03-2005, 00:24
http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050225.html

http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050228.html

http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050302.html

http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050314.html

http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050316.html

http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050321.html
Passive Cookies
30-03-2005, 00:31
I went through a stage where I shopped at downtown goth shops and listened to depressing music all the time... I even wore the dark makeup and a mopey expression. I felt scorned and misunderstood, I was recluse, mysterious, the whole bit: your typical goth girl stereotype.

What did this accomplish? Absolutely nothing.

Eventually I worked out my issues, met some really great people, became sociable and moved on with my life. I even learned to smile. Personally I find my life more enjoyable now that I'm not caught up in an image/subculture.

I do however still reject mainstream culture, but that's another story.
Nonconformitism
30-03-2005, 00:32
Well, they are. Their literature is best, their fashion is best, their music is best. I love the morbidness, the emotionality, the mysteriousness. All the other subcultures, as far as I am concerned, for example the Gangstas, the Punks, the Neo-Nazis, the Frat Boys, etc., can take their sub-culture and stuff it up their arse.
whats wrong with punks??
Jokobee
30-03-2005, 00:34
Sexist Slime!11!!1 :mad:


Thanks.
Nonconformitism
30-03-2005, 00:34
I don't like Goth. It makes girls look so ugly. I like them in pink tight stuff. :p
not true in the slightest, besides "tight pink stuff" is terrible and demeaning
Jokobee
30-03-2005, 00:40
not true in the slightest, besides "tight pink stuff" is terrible and demeaning

Yes it is true. I do like them better in tight pink stuff. Well, red is just as good too. Well, any color as long as it is really tight (and have a good body obviously). :D The already ugly girls can wear goth. I don't mind. ;)
Nonconformitism
30-03-2005, 00:42
Yes it is true. I do like them better in tight pink stuff. Well, red is just as good too. Well, any color as long as it is really tight (and have a good body obviously). :D The already ugly girls can wear goth. I don't mind. ;)
ugg, well lets see if i can convert an ass like you, a lot of goth stuff is tight
Jaythewise
30-03-2005, 00:44
I find a certain site that shall remain nameless, very very hot.

i think it has girls in it and then something about sucidie. <<note the incorrect spelling.


(dont ban ~ wipe me :) )
Pure Metal
30-03-2005, 00:52
Never said I wanted to be an "individual." And Dakini, I have come to the conclusion you are a full on Feminazi. So go and die.
this forum has had an influx of very rude noobs as of late :(

goths are kinda cool though :)
Feil
30-03-2005, 03:29
It's also an anti-muslim, white supremicist religion centred around the idea of how wonderful death and sucicide are; it originated in southeastern Europe (around Transylvania) as a preserver of racism. Get out of self-pity for long enough to research the origins of your little religion and then see if you can live with yourself.
Ever wonder why you've never seen a black Goth?

Or maybe try to actually help somebody and make the world a better place, in stead of sitting around feeling sorry for yourself while wearing "bondage" cloathes and writing poetry. Get a job. Procreate. Voulanteer at a soup kitchen.

What the hell is next? A thread saying "KKK is Awesome"?
Neo-Anarchists
30-03-2005, 03:38
It's also an anti-muslim, white supremicist religion centred around the idea of how wonderful death and sucicide are; it originated in southeastern Europe (around Transylvania) as a preserver of racism. Get out of self-pity for long enough to research the origins of your little religion and then see if you can live with yourself.
Source?
And seeing as I hadn't heard about all goths believing in racism anymore, it really doesn't matter.
Ever wonder why you've never seen a black Goth?
Perhaps because they think pasty white skin is in style?
Or maybe try to actually help somebody and make the world a better place, in stead of sitting around feeling sorry for yourself while wearing "bondage" cloathes and writing poetry. Get a job. Procreate. Voulanteer at a soup kitchen.
You know, not all goths devote their entire lives to moping about,
I've met plenty of them who are, SHOCK HORROR, regular people who just enjoy putting on a bit of makeup and black.
What the hell is next? A thread saying "KKK is Awesome"?
Good job, you can troll.
The Doors Corporation
30-03-2005, 03:40
Well I dunno many goths. I am a mix of a lot o' things. A social geek with friends who aren't geeks, I am a gamer, I like hiking and crap. I love pushing the limits. I love causing trouble. I wear stuff like some old school punk or something (as I see myself) Dickies coat and jeans is my regular. Anyhow, if there were Goths around I would probably be friends.
Grazia
30-03-2005, 03:48
Goths... no.

Suicid Girls, yes.

(I don't come here, so I don't mind if I'm banned.)
The Doors Corporation
30-03-2005, 03:55
Goths... no.

Suicid Girls, yes.

(I don't come here, so I don't mind if I'm banned.)
Suicide girl?
Rakenshi
30-03-2005, 04:00
I think he means suicide girls...... Anyway I find Goth's to be interesting people, I like talking to them, and me myself am not facinated in the dark arts but wount mind reading a book about it or anything. Im not a really strong believer about all those things anyway, but yeah I rather have a chick that likes cuddling than somebody that bites your neck for the taste of blood......
Stuependousland
30-03-2005, 04:01
Well, they are. Their literature is best, their fashion is best, their music is best. I love the morbidness, the emotionality, the mysteriousness. All the other subcultures, as far as I am concerned, for example the Gangstas, the Punks, the Neo-Nazis, the Frat Boys, etc., can take their sub-culture and stuff it up their arse.


The goths are who they are because they choose to be different correct?
Neo-Anarchists
30-03-2005, 04:02
I think he means suicide girls......
It's a website.
Rakenshi
30-03-2005, 04:04
A really f*cked up one in my eyes.... but yeah everybody has their own point of views
Stuependousland
30-03-2005, 04:06
The goths are who they are because they choose to be different correct?

But wait a minute they have become a clique just like everyone else. so therefore they are not different but yet they are just like everyone else. they conform to "non-conformity"
Holy Sheep
30-03-2005, 04:20
Be a part of a really obscure sub-culture - Hippy!

Actually, Neo-Hippy. We are allowed to shower.
But we still beleive in free :fluffle:
Rakenshi
30-03-2005, 04:22
Actually I belive to be a hippy.... Im extremly anti war, and hate blood along with death. i could never be a general, I would hate to see the faces of the parents that lost their kids in war
Crapholistan
30-03-2005, 04:31
It's also an anti-muslim, white supremicist religion centred around the idea of how wonderful death and sucicide are; it originated in southeastern Europe (around Transylvania) as a preserver of racism. Get out of self-pity for long enough to research the origins of your little religion and then see if you can live with yourself.
Ever wonder why you've never seen a black Goth?

Or maybe try to actually help somebody and make the world a better place, in stead of sitting around feeling sorry for yourself while wearing "bondage" cloathes and writing poetry. Get a job. Procreate. Voulanteer at a soup kitchen.

What the hell is next? A thread saying "KKK is Awesome"?

Michael Jackson may be the first black goth...
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
30-03-2005, 04:44
Well, they are. Their literature is best, their fashion is best, their music is best. I love the morbidness, the emotionality, the mysteriousness. All the other subcultures, as far as I am concerned, for example the Gangstas, the Punks, the Neo-Nazis, the Frat Boys, etc., can take their sub-culture and stuff it up their arse.

when referring to pathetic fools please do not call them goths. goths were an actual people not the idiots were think of today.
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
30-03-2005, 04:45
Yes, Bella Goth is my favourite.

That was supposed to be a joke btw.

you play the Sims :)
Potaria
30-03-2005, 04:45
when referring to pathetic fools please do not call them goths. goths were an actual people not the idiots were think of today.

They (along with Christianity) brought the Roman Empire to its knees.
New Kanteletar
30-03-2005, 04:50
It's also an anti-muslim, white supremicist religion centred around the idea of how wonderful death and sucicide are; it originated in southeastern Europe (around Transylvania) as a preserver of racism. Get out of self-pity for long enough to research the origins of your little religion and then see if you can live with yourself.
Ever wonder why you've never seen a black Goth?

Or maybe try to actually help somebody and make the world a better place, in stead of sitting around feeling sorry for yourself while wearing "bondage" cloathes and writing poetry. Get a job. Procreate. Voulanteer at a soup kitchen.

What the hell is next? A thread saying "KKK is Awesome"?

1. What the hell are you talking about? The word "goth" comes from two germanic tribes (Ostrogoths and Visigoths) that were pervasive in Europe. Visigoths lived in Western Europe from Spain to about Germany/Austria. The Ostrogoths lived in around Eastern Europe (including the Balkans), but were most prominent near Italy (quite lucrative that pillaging). Now keep in mind that this happened a good couple of centuries before Muhammed was even born...

2. I haven't seen a black goth, but I've seen a Hindi goth
Preebles
30-03-2005, 04:51
I'd like to know what the original poster thinks of feminist goths...
Crapholistan
30-03-2005, 04:52
1. What the hell are you talking about? The word "goth" comes from two germanic tribes (Ostrogoths and Visigoths) that were pervasive in Europe. Visigoths lived in Western Europe from Spain to about Germany/Austria. The Ostrogoths lived in around Eastern Europe (including the Balkans), but were most prominent near Italy (quite lucrative that pillaging). Now keep in mind that this happened a good couple of centuries before Muhammed was even born...

2. I haven't seen a black goth, but I've seen a Hindi goth

Did the Ostrogoths and Visigoths wear lots of makeup and spikes?
Potaria
30-03-2005, 04:52
I'd like to know what the original poster thinks of feminist goths...

He seems to be rather conformist, so...
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
30-03-2005, 04:53
whats wrong with punks??

i thought a punk was someone banged in prison?
New Kanteletar
30-03-2005, 04:56
Did the Ostrogoths and Visigoths wear lots of makeup and spikes?

I dunno, but that's where the word comes from :).
I wouldn't be suprised if they wore some sort of make-up, a la woad.
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
30-03-2005, 04:59
Michael Jackson may be the first black goth...

lol
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
30-03-2005, 05:00
1. What the hell are you talking about? The word "goth" comes from two germanic tribes (Ostrogoths and Visigoths) that were pervasive in Europe. Visigoths lived in Western Europe from Spain to about Germany/Austria. The Ostrogoths lived in around Eastern Europe (including the Balkans), but were most prominent near Italy (quite lucrative that pillaging). Now keep in mind that this happened a good couple of centuries before Muhammed was even born...

2. I haven't seen a black goth, but I've seen a Hindi goth

ah thank u
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
30-03-2005, 05:01
I dunno, but that's where the word comes from :).
I wouldn't be suprised if they wore some sort of make-up, a la woad.

yea but woad is blue
Vetalia
30-03-2005, 05:02
I wouldn't be suprised if they wore some sort of make-up, a la woad.

I'm pretty sure they did. Woad was one of their major trade products, and many tribes related to the Goths, esp. in Roman Britain wore it.
Feil
30-03-2005, 05:38
Damn it all... checked my responses when they got a backlash, and found out that I was (mostly) wrong...

I hate it when I'm wrong...

Looks like Goth is a death-oriented subculture of late Punk. Got the information from wikipedia and various Goth sites on the 'net.

...Now I want to know which group, if any, I was thinking of...

My appologies for making incorrect statements.
Decolace
31-03-2005, 00:36
Damn it all... checked my responses when they got a backlash, and found out that I was (mostly) wrong...

I hate it when I'm wrong...

Looks like Goth is a death-oriented subculture of late Punk. Got the information from wikipedia and various Goth sites on the 'net.

...Now I want to know which group, if any, I was thinking of...

My appologies for making incorrect statements.


Yeah, thank you. I'm a somewhat punk, meaning that I can do without the chains but I love the music and the fashion for the most part.