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yep, that's right, sweet innocent little Tinky nearly got into trouble in Morcambe

I had a bottle of vodka in my handbag cos i was putting it in mine and my friend's drinks and I got caught by the owner of the clubhouse. We were stood around talking to this football team (*drool*) and she tapped me on the shoulder and said

"please could you come into the toilets with me a minute"

so i gave my drink and my bag to my friend, so she said

"bring your bag with you"

so i was like 'shit' so i followed her in and she said

"empty your bag out please"

so i said

"HOW RUDE! NO!"

so she said

"look, I'm the landlady, I can do what I want, you empty your bag or I'll do it myself"

so i took the vodka out and she got out her phone and said she was gonna call the police so i turned the waterworks on and made up this story about how I've wanted to be a policewoman all my life and they'll never let me on the force if I have a record so she let me off.

LOL @ Bint


:eek: Tink!

sorry mummy

HA HA HA HA!!!
Well done! Damn Landlady's/Landlords. You'd think they'd be happy you were there, even if you weren't buying their drinks!!

If some crazy women asked me to step into the toilets, I'd be scared too. Why would the police become involved? Surely the first step would be to kick you out and put a ban on?

*TONIGHT ON AMERICA'S MOST WANTED*

Tink & the Drink

If some crazy women asked me to step into the toilets, I'd be scared too. Why would the police become involved? Surely the first step would be to kick you out and put a ban on?
I dunno, she just said she was gonna call the police

Crying is blackmail

I used to know a guy who always sat in the corner in a huge trenchcoat at all times of the year. Bottle of scotch in one pocket, whiskey in another. Bought a few scotch and cokes to keep suspicions at bay, and a few straight cokes. Took me two years to figure out what was going on. I don't think the bar staff ever noticed either! :eek:

I dunno, she just said she was gonna call the police

But the important thing is that you got nicely toasted with the footy boys, right?

You want me to rough up the bint a bit Tinky?

But the important thing is that you got nicely toasted with the footy boys, right?
yes lol

You want me to rough up the bint a bit Tinky?
lol, that'd be great!

But the important thing is that you got nicely toasted with the footy boys, right?
And your sis.

yes lol

Well that's the main thing!:) I hope you got some phone numbers, or addresses...

But the important thing is that you got nicely toasted with the footy boys, right?

I misread that and tinks answer and now i really must get my mind somewhere cleaner... :(

What would the TIN man say about all this?

Well that's the main thing!:) I hope you got some phone numbers, or addresses...
I got a few numbers but I doubt I'll do anything with them

What would the TIN man say about all this?
he thought it was funny

I got a few numbers but I doubt I'll do anything with them

Shame, there's nothing like a good prank call.;)

Shame, there's nothing like a good prank call.;)
lol, i'll probably use them for that

I don't know how, "they" do that. Every time I've tried to drink something I brought with me, I've been caught in an instant. Sitting on a pub roof with one friend and nobody else around, and the instant I top-up the pint I bought from a can I had left (it was London, the pint was shite to begin with, so the canned effort didn't really make it any worse), the land lady's head appears at the top of the stairs.

Every time.

Bastards with their... trying to turn a profit.

[Grumbles]

I don't know how, "they" do that. Every time I've tried to drink something I brought with me, I've been caught in an instant. Sitting on a pub roof with one friend and nobody else around, and the instant I top-up the pint I bought from a can I had left (it was London, the pint was shite to begin with, so the canned effort didn't really make it any worse), the land lady's head appears at the top of the stairs.

Every time.

Bastards with their... trying to turn a profit.

[Grumbles]
she had the chance to make some profit out of me but the bitch wouldn't serve me!

Hm! Obviously a power thing. Some small people must get off on denying service to others.
Maybe she was just having less luck getting numbers or something.

...or perhaps Tink is underaged and it was illegal for her to sell you anything?..

I was playing pool with some 35 year old American lady in a pub in dunedin (2 bears, if I remember correctly) mostly because she kept paying for drinks and games of pool. Strangely though, she hardly bought herself drinks as she had a few cans of beer in her pocket that she toped up with in the corner. Never got caught while I was there.

That's why you get drunk at home *before* you go. ;)

...or perhaps Tink is underaged and it was illegal for her to sell you anything?..
I'm nearly 18! and i get served in most places

I'm nearly 18! and i get served in most places

Ah but Tink, with a v neck top, a smile and a flutter of your eye lashes a lady of your charms can get served anywhere!

Ah but Tink, with a v neck top, a smile and a flutter of your eye lashes a lady of your charms can get served anywhere!
unless it's a woman serving me

I'm nearly 18! and i get served in most places

So it is illegal? And she could have lost her alcohol licence had you been caught? And the whole business could have suffered if she had illegally served you?

What I am curious about is how did you notice you had slipped in a bottle of vodka once she had refused to serve you? Have you been there before? In my experience people don't just look into their handbags and go, "Hey! here's a bottle of spirits tucked into my purse for a rainy day!" unless your name is Patsy Stone.:p

Taking drinks into clubs and what not is a favourite pass time of my mates, which pisses me off no end as it usually involves the whole group getting kicked out, Christ they used to do it in a nice restaurant we use to go to regularly, and we are no longer allowed there.

I never knew it was illegal mind you, just thought it ticked em off because you where being scabby.

Seriously thought if your gonna do it realise it could quite easily ruin a night for your friends. Not to mention is pretty fecking scabby.

Taking drinks into clubs and what not is a favorite pass time of my mates, which pisses me off no end as it usally involves the whole group getting kicked out, chirst they did it in a resturant once too.

I never knew it was illegal mind you, just thought it ticked em off becuase you where being scabby.

Seriously thought if your gonna do it realise it could quite easily ruin a night for your friends. Not to mention is pretty fecking scabby.

I snuck some whiskey into a club once. I refuse to pay $5 for a beer from a plastic cup.

I snuck some whiskey into a club once. I refuse to pay $5 for a beer from a plastic cup.

Plastic cups? Crazy Aussies.. We only get plastic at the cricket/rugby because some nutters enjoy throwing them at boundry riders/south african referees.

So it is illegal? And she could have lost her alcohol licence had you been caught? And the whole business could have suffered if she had illegally served you?

What I am curious about is how did you notice you had slipped in a bottle of vodka once she had refused to serve you? Have you been there before? In my experience people don't just look into their handbags and go, "Hey! here's a bottle of spirits tucked into my purse for a rainy day!" unless your name is Patsy Stone.:p
i bought the vodka from a shop down the road and put it in my bag for me and my sister and our mates to put into our drinks

I snuck some whiskey into a club once. I refuse to pay $5 for a beer from a plastic cup.
I suppose money is a factor then, but spirts god, that the kinda stuff you drink once youve been shot, and if you want to be drunk/drunkish in a club but not spend a fortune do it my way, get lighty hammerd in a cheap student pub before hand.

Fantastic!

i bought the vodka from a shop down the road and put it in my bag for me and my sister and our mates to put into our drinks

Like this? http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/13/13134.jpg :p

Like this? http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/13/13134.jpg :p
yes lol

That's why you get drunk at home *before* you go. ;)

That's not as fun. :rolleyes:

Plastic cups? Crazy Aussies.. We only get plastic at the cricket/rugby because some nutters enjoy throwing them at boundry riders/south african referees.

Depends on the club. The ones with glasses tend to become literal minefields of glass shards before the end of the night as people leave them on the ground to be kicked around, etc.

So often the cheaper clubs will use plastic cups :(

I suppose money is a factor then, but spirts god, that the kinda stuff you drink once youve been shot, and if you want to be drunk/drunkish in a club but not spend a fortune do it my way, get lighty hammerd in a cheap student pub before hand.

Fantastic!

Mmm, unfortunately even cheap student pubs over here charge $3 for a beer. And spirits rock. Don't knock them :p

That's not as fun. :rolleyes:

Sure it is if friends meet up with you beforehand.

Then you have to convince the entrance bouncers that you're sober enough to go inside. Hilarity. ^_^

Sure it is if friends meet up with you beforehand.

Then you have to convince the entrance bouncers that you're sober enough to go inside. Hilarity. ^_^
And is cheap :D

Drinking is bad, mekay?

I like to be with my friends through the whole process of getting drunk. It's more fun that way. Besides, we don't have clubs. Unless, you're 21.

Drinking is bad, mekay?

Not if you want to have to deal with other people its not.

For depressed intellectuals like myself its nectar, (beer not spirts)

Not if you want to have to deal with other people its not.

For depressed intellectuals like myself its nectar, (beer not spirts)

Bah! Smirnoff is the almighty.

Bah! Smirnoff is the almighty.
:eek:


No way. Beer > all

Bah! Smirnoff is the almighty.

Two kind of of people drink vodka.

1. Communists, hell if you drink vodka your worse than Stalin.
2.Swedes, neutral bastards sold the Nazis their steel.

So if you drink vodka, your either Hitler’s best friend or Stalin.

Get outta ma face your commie Nazi sympathiser

I like to be with my friends through the whole process of getting drunk. It's more fun that way. Besides, we don't have clubs. Unless, you're 21.

Poor Americans. :(

And is cheap :D

Exactly. I save so much money doing that. I mean...For the price of 5 or 6 beers in a club, I could get a bottle of spirits.

Two kind of of people drink vodka.

1. Communists, hell if you drink vodka your worse than Stalin.
2.Swedes, neutral bastards sold the Nazis their steel.

So if you drink vodka, your either Hitler’s best friend or Stalin.

Get outta ma face your commie Nazi sympathiser

Call me what you want, you know it's true.

EDIT: I wouldn't know if that's true LP. We have shitty beer here in the states.

Bah! Smirnoff is the almighty.

Nah, Finlandia is MUCH better.


But Vodka is nothing in comparison to beer and whiskey (Any kind. But particularly Irish whiskey :D)

yep, that's right, sweet innocent little Tinky nearly got into trouble in Morcambe

I had a bottle of vodka in my handbag cos i was putting it in mine and my friend's drinks and I got caught by the owner of the clubhouse. We were stood around talking to this football team (*drool*) and she tapped me on the shoulder and said

"please could you come into the toilets with me a minute"

so i gave my drink and my bag to my friend, so she said

"bring your bag with you"

so i was like 'shit' so i followed her in and she said

"empty your bag out please"

so i said

"HOW RUDE! NO!"

so she said

"look, I'm the landlady, I can do what I want, you empty your bag or I'll do it myself"

so i took the vodka out and she got out her phone and said she was gonna call the police so i turned the waterworks on and made up this story about how I've wanted to be a policewoman all my life and they'll never let me on the force if I have a record so she let me off. I then went back to our caravan and flled up a water bottle with my nan's vodka and took it back to the clubhouse and sat and drank it right in front of the stupid bint


And you act like she's in the wrong?

You were breaking the law. You should have been arrested. Your cult could not save you then.....

EDIT: I wouldn't know if that's true LP. We have shitty beer here in the states.
Good point :fluffle:

Nah, Finlandia is MUCH better.


But Vodka is nothing in comparison to beer and whiskey (Any kind. But particularly Irish whiskey :D)

Whiskey... meh.

Belgian beers ist teh bestestes.

as ive stated any one who states other wise than me, is a vodka drinking commi-nazi

Belgian beers ist teh bestestes.

as ive stated any one who states other wise than me, is a vodka drinking commi-nazi

Vodlka's great. I'm sorry if it upsets you. My grandpa was Russian. :rolleyes:

I think i need to set up some vodka drinkers re-education camps.

Actually that could be a laugh. Drinking camps

And you act like she's in the wrong?

You were breaking the law. You should have been arrested. Your cult could not save you then.....
I never said she was in the wrong!


and i'm sure they would've been able to come up with some way of getting me out

And you act like she's in the wrong?

You were breaking the law. You should have been arrested. Your cult could not save you then.....

Whoa, lil miss/mr police state.

Whoa, lil miss/mr police state.
that person doesn't like me much

that person doesn't like me much

I'm sorry. It's okay Tink. :fluffle:

So it is illegal? And she could have lost her alcohol licence had you been caught? And the whole business could have suffered if she had illegally served you?
Losing the alcohol license might be the least of the owners problems. If I remember correctly, knowingly allowing a minor to drink alcohol could result in jail time in some jurisdictions (though I'm not certain about this; it would be worthwhile to look up what the current laws are).
Whoa, lil miss/mr police state.
Arresting minors who drink illegally hardly strikes me as being unduly authoritarian. Alcohol can have some nasty effects on the human body.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

I'm sorry. It's okay Tink. :fluffle:
don't worry, I ain't crying myself to sleep at night over it


:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Arresting minors who drink illegally hardly strikes me as being unduly authoritarian. Alcohol can have some nasty effects on the human body.


Yes, this is the government argument that often pisses me off, i shouldn’t smoke/tobacco/pot ect or drink alcohol, because its bad for me and because I’m stupid and cant make my own decisions i should be stopped from doing so, Yeah i don’t like seeing 15 year olds in pub either(although that’s a bit hypocritical of me seeing as I did it), simply because imo it ruins your childhood (there should be at least a short time in your life, when your don’t have to really on the juice to keep your going from week to week)
Hell i want to drink, the only reason i don’t smoke tobacco is because hell i don’t like the taste, and yeah i want to do these things knowing ill die at 50, shit everyone’s got to die of something id rather go at 50 while im still on top of my game than senile and crapping my self at 80.

bah that wasn’t directed at anyone just ranting.

i've had a run in with the law but it was only a mr. meanor

w00t! go Tink! drink that vodka!! :fluffle:

"look, I'm the landlady, I can do what I want, you empty your bag or I'll do it myself"

She was bullshitting you, to put it mildly: as landlady she has the right to refuse you service for just about any reason or to have you removed from the premises, but commanding patrons to empty their bags is well beyond her authority.

Arresting minors who drink illegally hardly strikes me as being unduly authoritarian. Alcohol can have some nasty effects on the human body.

Underage drinking is not illegal, selling alcohol to those underage is however illegal: the threat of arrest was spurious, unless the landlady was going to claim that Tink was drunk and disorderly or drunk and incapable. Ironically enough it would be illegal for tink to carry the Vodka outside on the street, but not to have it on her person inside the pub...

yep, that's right, sweet innocent little Tinky nearly got into trouble in Morcambe


Poor TInk... :(

The landlady was probably afraid someone would think she'd sold you the vodka. But I doubt it would have been legal for her to hand you over to the police.

Still, the important thing is you weren't arrested, and now it's just something you can have fun telling people about. :p

I think if you'd been arrested, though, we'd all have signed a petition for your release. ;)

Underage drinking is not illegal, selling alcohol to those underage is however illegal: the threat of arrest was spurious, unless the landlady was going to claim that Tink was drunk and disorderly or drunk and incapable. Ironically enough it would be illegal for tink to carry the Vodka outside on the street, but not to have it on her person inside the pub...
Hmmm-Mmmm.... Thanks for clearing that up.

Suffice it to say: I have no firsthand experience with these matters.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

I think if you'd been arrested, though, we'd all have signed a petition for your release. ;)

I would have volunteered to frisk her.

Over and over again.

And here I thought you had actually committed a felony. Liquor in a bag is hardly a shooting offense.

that person doesn't like me much

Damn personality cult...Hate so much.....

And here I thought you had actually committed a felony. Liquor in a bag is hardly a shooting offense.

But underage drinking SHOULD BE!

No problem. I routinely bring little plastic bottles of vodka into pubs.

yep, that's right, sweet innocent little Tinky nearly got into trouble in Morcambe

I had a bottle of vodka in my handbag cos i was putting it in mine and my friend's drinks and I got caught by the owner of the clubhouse. We were stood around talking to this football team (*drool*) and she tapped me on the shoulder and said

"please could you come into the toilets with me a minute"

so i gave my drink and my bag to my friend, so she said

"bring your bag with you"

so i was like 'shit' so i followed her in and she said

"empty your bag out please"

so i said

"HOW RUDE! NO!"

so she said

"look, I'm the landlady, I can do what I want, you empty your bag or I'll do it myself"

so i took the vodka out and she got out her phone and said she was gonna call the police so i turned the waterworks on and made up this story about how I've wanted to be a policewoman all my life and they'll never let me on the force if I have a record so she let me off. I then went back to our caravan and flled up a water bottle with my nan's vodka and took it back to the clubhouse and sat and drank it right in front of the stupid bint

So you think its amusing, breaking the law and duping a compassionate human being? How sickening.

yep, that's right, sweet innocent little Tinky nearly got into trouble in Morcambe

I had a bottle of vodka in my handbag cos i was putting it in mine and my friend's drinks and I got caught by the owner of the clubhouse. We were stood around talking to this football team (*drool*) and she tapped me on the shoulder and said

"please could you come into the toilets with me a minute"

so i gave my drink and my bag to my friend, so she said

"bring your bag with you"

so i was like 'shit' so i followed her in and she said

"empty your bag out please"

so i said

"HOW RUDE! NO!"

so she said

"look, I'm the landlady, I can do what I want, you empty your bag or I'll do it myself"

so i took the vodka out and she got out her phone and said she was gonna call the police so i turned the waterworks on and made up this story about how I've wanted to be a policewoman all my life and they'll never let me on the force if I have a record so she let me off. I then went back to our caravan and flled up a water bottle with my nan's vodka and took it back to the clubhouse and sat and drank it right in front of the stupid bint

I hate people like you. You should be arrested with a much harsher sentence!

I hate people like you. You should be arrested with a much harsher sentence!
Is that sarcasm or are you serious?

EDIT: I wouldn't know if that's true LP. We have shitty beer here in the states.

Why is american beer like making love in a canoe?

Because-->It's fucking close to water!<--

Thank you Monty Python!

You can get arrested for that? What country do you live in?
That woman is a damn liar, she can NOT do anything she wants and even the Police needs a warrent or your OK to search your bag, stand your ground woman. Next time just say NO! She can not say anything then.
She is not above the law, just a sad litle pest that thinks she is.

i bought the vodka from a shop down the road and put it in my bag for me and my sister and our mates to put into our drinks


if the place had been raided and you had been caught drinking on the premisis the landlady would not only have lost her licence (not to mention her business and probably her home as most publicans live on site) but would also have been prosecuted aswell - she would have been fined heavily and ended up with a criminal record because of your actions

sorry no sympathy here whatsoever but then I work for the largest pub co in the UK and have to help publicans who are being shafted by the police because of people like you on a fairly regular basis

how would you like it if you lost your job, home, business and livelihood all because of someone who cant wait a few months til its legal for them to drink?

So you think its amusing, breaking the law and duping a compassionate human being? How sickening.
wow, you're mean :(

I have no respect for felons :mad:

Oh yeah... I have a pretty chunky criminal record.

if the place had been raided and you had been caught drinking on the premisis the landlady would not only have lost her licence (not to mention her business and probably her home as most publicans live on site) but would also have been prosecuted aswell - she would have been fined heavily and ended up with a criminal record because of your actions

sorry no sympathy here whatsoever but then I work for the largest pub co in the UK and have to help publicans who are being shafted by the police because of people like you on a fairly regular basis

how would you like it if you lost your job, home, business and livelihood all because of someone who cant wait a few months til its legal for them to drink?
you never bought alcohol when you were underage or went into a pub or club when you were underage and bought alcohol?

actually no I didnt

have some consideration for the landlady here - as I said before she would have lost business, home and had a criminal record because of you if the police had decided to raid the pub

well i'm sorry but i know of plenty of places around here that have been raided by the police and underage drinkers been found on the premises and they're all still up and running! and I do know why she did it, of course i understand that she had to take it off me and that i was the one in the wrong, i was only telling people my story, it's like one of the only rebelious things i've ever done!

sorry but it came across as bragging especially after saying you had gone back with more vodka in a water bottle

sorry but it came across as bragging especially after saying you had gone back with more vodka in a water bottle
Word.

sorry but it came across as bragging especially after saying you had gone back with more vodka in a water bottle
hmmmmm, i guess your right, i edited it

hmmmmm, i guess your right, i edited it

shame you cant edit all the quotes of the original eh ;)

shame you cant edit all the quotes of the original eh ;)
nobody reads those

nobody reads those

they will now you have stated you edited it ;)


sorry sorry I'll stop being a crotchety old bag now ;)

If some crazy women asked me to step into the toilets, I'd be scared too. Why would the police become involved? Surely the first step would be to kick you out and put a ban on?

No shit! Sounds like you ran into a quite overzealous one... glad you got out unscathed.

they will now you have stated you edited it ;)


sorry sorry I'll stop being a crotchety old bag now ;)
I wish i hadn't started this now :(

I wish i hadn't started this now :(


:fluffle: didnt meant to upset you :)

I wish i hadn't started this now :(

Ah come on man, I think it's great. You should do what you want... I for one would actually like to have a chance to do something like that.

I dunno, she just said she was gonna call the police

Are you underage?

If so, you broke the Law. Why would you not think the Police should be called?

Regards,
Gaar

Are you underage?

If so, you broke the Law. Why would you not think the Police should be called?

Regards,
Gaar

You're clearly not the fun type...

She was bullshitting you, to put it mildly: as landlady she has the right to refuse you service for just about any reason or to have you removed from the premises, but commanding patrons to empty their bags is well beyond her authority.

You're right, she should have called the Police and had them do it.

She is lucky that she did it so it didn't have to come to that.

Regards,
Gaar

Are you underage?

If so, you broke the Law. Why would you not think the Police should be called?


Oh, for goodness' sake, leave her alone! She hasn't committed a crime. I'm not saying all she did was right, but I can understand her wanting to just tell people and have a bit of a laugh about it, and some of you are bashing her as if she were a criminal. Plus, that landlady threatened her with the police when she had no right to do so.

You're clearly not the fun type...

Yeah, pointing out the consequences of ones actions is rarely considered a "fun" thing to do...

But if a person doesn't consider them before such action, they may just "have" to consider them sometime during or after them.

Regards,
Gaar

Oh, for goodness' sake, leave her alone! She hasn't committed a crime. I'm not saying all she did was right, but I can understand her wanting to just tell people and have a bit of a laugh about it, and some of you are bashing her as if she were a criminal. Plus, that landlady threatened her with the police when she had no right to do so.

Bringing Alcohol into a club isn't a crime?

Again, is she underage?

Something about the Law in these matters you don't understand?

I would say she was lucky the Police were not called or she would have found out just how many Laws she did in fact break.

Regards,
Gaar

Bringing Alcohol into a club isn't a crime?

No. But owners tend to get pissy about bringing drinks into their businesses (this includes non-alcoholic drink too btw)

Again, is she underage?

It isn't a crime to drink underage here, unless Tink was shit faced then she was within the law.

Selling alcohol to a minor is illegal though.

Something about the Law in these matters you don't understand?

Hmm,

I would say she was lucky the Police were not called or she would have found out just how many Laws she did in fact break.


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yep, that's right, sweet innocent little Tinky nearly got into trouble in Morcambe

I had a bottle of vodka in my handbag cos i was putting it in mine and my friend's drinks and I got caught by the owner of the clubhouse. We were stood around talking to this football team (*drool*) and she tapped me on the shoulder and said

"please could you come into the toilets with me a minute"

so i gave my drink and my bag to my friend, so she said

"bring your bag with you"

so i was like 'shit' so i followed her in and she said

"empty your bag out please"

so i said

"HOW RUDE! NO!"

so she said

"look, I'm the landlady, I can do what I want, you empty your bag or I'll do it myself"

so i took the vodka out and she got out her phone and said she was gonna call the police so i turned the waterworks on and made up this story about how I've wanted to be a policewoman all my life and they'll never let me on the force if I have a record so she let me off.


ahh why didnt you tell the chick off lol

No. But owners tend to get pissy about bringing drinks into their businesses (this includes non-alcoholic drink too btw)


Actually, if the "club" is non-Alcoholic it is in fact against the Law to bring Alcohol in, even if you are "of age".


It isn't a crime to drink underage here, unless Tink was shit faced then she was within the law.

In Public, yes it is. It is even against the Law for a person "of age" to consume Alcohol in Public places or in any privately owned businesses that don't have Alcohol licenses.

Regards,
Gaar

Bringing Alcohol into a club isn't a crime?

Again, is she underage?

Something about the Law in these matters you don't understand?

I would say she was lucky the Police were not called or she would have found out just how many Laws she did in fact break.


For one thing, I don't believe it's illegal for an under-age person to consume alcohol in the UK, it's illegal for people to sell it to them, though I may be wrong. In any case, no, bringing alcohol into a club is most definitely not a crime. At the very most, a slight infringement of the law. Doesn't mean it's right, but stop blowing it out of all proportion.

For another thing, what exactly are you implying by "she would have found out just how many Laws she did in fact break"?

Lastly, several people have already pointed out to her what they thought of her actions. The point has been made. There's no need to bash her with it again and again. You're making it sound as though she did something terrible! You've made your point (needlessly, since others had made it for you before), now if you have any decency in you just leave her alone.

If she searched your bag she can't do a thing to you. In britain for definate and I'm pretty sure US too, it classes as an illegal search. The police are able to legally perform searches but the general public is not, including security guards. They're allowed to detain you until police arrive, of course, but if they search your bags and find an item it cannot be used as evidence because they could have planted it

Bringing Alcohol into a club isn't a crime?

Again, is she underage?

Something about the Law in these matters you don't understand?

I would say she was lucky the Police were not called or she would have found out just how many Laws she did in fact break.

Regards,
Gaar

umm again tell the person off and leave, they dont have a right to search you.

In any case, no, bringing alcohol into a club is most definitely not a crime. At the very most, a slight infringement of the law. Doesn't mean it's right, but stop blowing it out of all proportion.

Could you please explain the difference between breaking the Law and "a slight infringement of the law"? TIA

For another thing, what exactly are you implying by "she would have found out just how many Laws she did in fact break"?


That one, the Law was broken by her being a minor in possession. Two, she was consuming Alcohol in a public place not intended for such consumption (perhaps, we still don't know). Three, there was likely a Law broken in her obtaining the Alcohol...

Shall we see if there were any others?

For instance, did she supply any to someone else who should not have been consuming?

Regards,
Gaar

umm again tell the person off and leave, they dont have a right to search you.

But they do have the Right to call the Police and have them do it.

I am pretty sure she is glad it didn't come to that, and hence the reason it was good that she complied.

As for forcing her, if you ask someone to show you and they do, it is not forcing them. If you tell that person that, if they do not comply you will call the Police it is not forcing them.

Regards,
Gaar

EDIT: Forcing them is taking the bag and conducting the search themselves or suggesting some type of physical harm if they do not do it themselves.

Actually, if the "club" is non-Alcoholic it is in fact against the Law to bring Alcohol in, even if you are "of age".

Maybe in the US, but this was Morcombe. Slight difference.

The proprietor does have the right to bar you or refuse to serve you though. But it isn't illegal to bring alcohol in (even if it is against the house rules)

In Public, yes it is. It is even against the Law for a person "of age" to consume Alcohol in Public places or in any privately owned businesses that don't have Alcohol licenses.


Alcohol licenses allow the proprietor to sell alcohol to anyone above a certain age (18+ for most drink, 16+ for cider bizarrely and 14+ if a whole load of requirements are fulfiled). Alcohol licences have no relevence to someone that brings alcohol from outside (and since it was in a bottle, it was clearly from outside).

Underage drinking laws apply to those that sell alcohol, not to the underaged. If a policeman finds a minor with alcohol and thinks they indend to drink it the most they can do is force them to pour it away. Although I think some more urban local authorities are applying more authoritarian policies.

Maybe in the US, but this was Morcombe. Slight difference.

The proprietor does have the right to bar you or refuse to serve you though. But it isn't illegal to bring alcohol in (even if it is against the house rules)

Alcohol licenses allow the proprietor to sell alcohol to anyone above a certain age (18+ for most drink, 16+ for cider bizarrely and 14+ if a whole load of requirements are fulfiled). Alcohol licences have no relevence to someone that brings alcohol from outside (and since it was in a bottle, it was clearly from outside).

Underage drinking laws apply to those that sell alcohol, not to the underaged. If a policeman finds a minor with alcohol and thinks they indend to drink it the most they can do is force them to pour it away. Although I think some more urban local authorities are applying more authoritarian policies.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Tink lived in the U.S.

My apologies for having brought up U.S. Law in a discussion about UK Law, I have no knowledge of UK Law on the matter and did not mean to suggest that I did.

Regards,
Gaar

Could you please explain the difference between breaking the Law and "a slight infringement of the law"? TIA

I didn't say there was one. I pointed out that what she did wasn't a crime. Perhaps you are not aware that there a various levels of severity in law-breaking? A minor infringement such as that is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a "crime".

Besides, it has yet to be proven to me that she was breaking any laws. Merely drinking alcohol is not illegal, except in very specific cases.


Three, there was likely a Law broken in her obtaining the Alcohol...


Assuming quite a lot here, aren't you? If somebody gave her the vodka, she got it legally. If someone sold it to her, then that person was breaking the law, but TInk herself was not. In any case, she was not breaking any laws!


Shall we see if there were any others?

For instance, did she supply any to someone else who should not have been consuming?


Are you just out to be nasty to her, or what?

Even if she did so, that would have been perfectly legal, assuming she didn't charge them for it. Which, I think it's safe to assume, she did not.

Don't let them make you feel bad about yourself, TInk. There's no reason to. Besides, that landlady was just trying to scare you; she had no right to do what she did, and legally she was far more in the wrong than you.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Tink lived in the U.S.

My apologies for having brought up U.S. Law in a discussion about UK Law, I have no knowledge of UK Law on the matter and did not mean to suggest that I did.

Regards,
Gaar
No problem. The only thing I know about US drinking laws is that it is 21+

i was only telling people my story, it's like one of the only rebelious things i've ever done!
Oh so immaturely cute :rolleyes: ... how old are you?

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Tink lived in the U.S.

My apologies for having brought up U.S. Law in a discussion about UK Law, I have no knowledge of UK Law on the matter and did not mean to suggest that I did.


It's good of you to apologise.

I did mention it though, you know. ;)


For one thing, I don't believe it's illegal for an under-age person to consume alcohol in the UK, it's illegal for people to sell it to them, though I may be wrong.

Oh so immaturely cute :rolleyes: ... how old are you?
She's 17 AKAIK.

*snip*

Again, my apologies...

I was under the impression that Tink was here in the U.S.

I will extract myself from this conversation by asking for everyone’s forgiveness (including Tink, first and foremost) for inserting my opinion into a matter that I know very little about, UK Law.

Sorry,
Gaar

Are you just out to be nasty to her, or what?

Don't let them make you feel bad about yourself, TInk.
I've got to love the way so many people on NS feel compelled to 'protect' Tink.


PS WTF is up +21 drinking age in America? That is so old!

It's good of you to apologise.

I did mention it though, you know. ;)

Understood, I thought you were doing some sort of comparison...

Again, my mistake.

Regards,
Gaar

WTF is up +21 drinking age in America? That is so old!

You can thank the religious zealots for that.

I've got to love the way so many people on NS feel compelled to 'protect' Tink.


Heh, the Social Spammers Network or some such.

I had previously thought of it as a huge popularity contest and post whoring community (no offense to anyone in it), never thought of it as a support group though.

You can thank the religious zealots for that.

Reagan in particular right?

Well, he was a poser (changed his political stance to grab votes), so it's just partially him.

Well I meant it was he who forced it to become policy on a national scale, true or false?

Okay, it varies from state to state... In Texas, it was Preston Smith who enforced the 21 and over drinking age law. I'm not sure about other states.

It's still fucked up either way.

But they do have the Right to call the Police and have them do it.

I am pretty sure she is glad it didn't come to that, and hence the reason it was good that she complied.

As for forcing her, if you ask someone to show you and they do, it is not forcing them. If you tell that person that, if they do not comply you will call the Police it is not forcing them.

Regards,
Gaar

EDIT: Forcing them is taking the bag and conducting the search themselves or suggesting some type of physical harm if they do not do it themselves.

Greetings,
Gaar

You leave before the cops come, even if they do come.

:eek:

im happy im a jew and we drink at watever age we want :p

well as long as its at a religious event :(

*TONIGHT ON AMERICA'S MOST WANTED*

Tink & the Drink
*ominus music*

Are you underage?

If so, you broke the Law. Why would you not think the Police should be called?


Your argument falls down at the crucial point that underage drinking is not illegal.

You're right, she should have called the Police and had them do it.

She is lucky that she did it so it didn't have to come to that.

Regards,
Gaar

The police would have no right to search her either.

In Public, yes it is. It is even against the Law for a person "of age" to consume Alcohol in Public places ...

Incorrect: it is only illegal to drink alcohol in public places which have been designated as alcohol free zones.

Your argument falls down at the crucial point that underage drinking is not illegal.

The police would have no right to search her either.

Since we are talking about the UK here, I will defer the question, I know not of which you speak...

But, if you are saying that applies in the U.S., I will say that I disagree with you, but that is neither here nor there with regards to the subject of this Thread and be done with it.

I do not wish to be accused of hijacking a Thread, and have already stepped away from this subject because I was mistaken in my initial assertion.

I again apologize for any disruption.

Regards,
Gaar

Incorrect: it is only illegal to drink alcohol in public places which have been designated as alcohol free zones.

In the U.S. it is the opposite...

You are only allowed to drink Alcohol in Public places that are designated "for" Alcohol, and you have to either have a license for businesses to do it all the time or a permit for one-time events, and the area itself has to be cordoned off from the general Public.

But again, I am unaware of the Laws in the UK and am not trying to suggest in any way that I do.

Regards,
Gaar

Since we are talking about the UK here, I will defer the question, I know not of which you speak...

But, if you are saying that applies in the U.S., I will say that I disagree with you, but that is neither here nor there with regards to the subject of this Thread and be done with it.

I do not wish to be accused of hijacking a Thread, and have already stepped away from this subject because I was mistaken in my initial assertion.


Ah, fair enough: the US and the UK have very different licensing laws. I was working through the thread, and hadn't got to post #111 yet, so I hadn't noticed you had made this error.


For the record i was about to make this post, which I'll make here, if only as a piece of information:

That one, the Law was broken by her being a minor in possession.


Not against the law: the police have a right to confiscate alcohol from underage drinkers who are drinking in public places and causing disorder. (Confiscation of Alcohol (Young Persons) Act, 1997). It is in fact legal for a child as young as five to drink alcohol, and even younger than that in cases of medical treatment or sickness. (Children Act 1908).

Two, she was consuming Alcohol in a public place not intended for such consumption (perhaps, we still don't know).


Nope: she was drinking alcohol on licensed premises.


Three, there was likely a Law broken in her obtaining the Alcohol...


Not necessarilly: it would be perfectly legal for Tink's parents to buy alcohol for her to consume, provided she does not do it in a manner or place which would contravene other laws.

Actually, if the "club" is non-Alcoholic it is in fact against the Law to bring Alcohol in, even if you are "of age".




In Public, yes it is. It is even against the Law for a person "of age" to consume Alcohol in Public places or in any privately owned businesses that don't have Alcohol licenses.

Regards,
Gaar

i never drank any of it in a public place

the clubhouse had a license

Understood, I thought you were doing some sort of comparison...

Again, my mistake.


Well, as I said, it's good of you to apologise. I'm not sure everyone would have had the decency to do so. Don't worry about it. :)

Urantia II
Three, there was likely a Law broken in her obtaining the Alcohol...

actually it was bought for me by an 18 year old

Again, my apologies...

I was under the impression that Tink was here in the U.S.

I will extract myself from this conversation by asking for everyone’s forgiveness (including Tink, first and foremost) for inserting my opinion into a matter that I know very little about, UK Law.

Sorry,
Gaar
you're forgiven :fluffle: :fluffle:

Awwww Tink, I'm sowwy to hear about that...

~hugs and snogs and fluffles~

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Awwww Tink, I'm sowwy to hear about that...

~hugs and snogs and fluffles~

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Bringing Alcohol into a club isn't a crime?

Again, is she underage?

Something about the Law in these matters you don't understand?

I would say she was lucky the Police were not called or she would have found out just how many Laws she did in fact break.

Regards,
Gaar

US law does not equal UK law

yep, that's right, sweet innocent little Tinky nearly got into trouble in Morcambe

I had a bottle of vodka in my handbag cos i was putting it in mine and my friend's drinks and I got caught by the owner of the clubhouse. We were stood around talking to this football team (*drool*) and she tapped me on the shoulder and said

"please could you come into the toilets with me a minute"

so i gave my drink and my bag to my friend, so she said

"bring your bag with you"

so i was like 'shit' so i followed her in and she said

"empty your bag out please"

so i said

"HOW RUDE! NO!"

so she said

"look, I'm the landlady, I can do what I want, you empty your bag or I'll do it myself"

so i took the vodka out and she got out her phone and said she was gonna call the police so i turned the waterworks on and made up this story about how I've wanted to be a policewoman all my life and they'll never let me on the force if I have a record so she let me off.

I'm shocked and appalled!

:D

actually it was bought for me by an 18 year old
:eek:

I have enough trouble getting lighters (I don't smoke, but I like lighters :D) and you can get someone to buy you vodka :D


Are you sure you don't have mind control powers...

*zombie-like*
Must stop asking questions.....

:eek:

I have enough trouble getting lighters (I don't smoke, but I like lighters :D) and you can get someone to buy you vodka :D


Are you sure you don't have mind control powers...

*zombie-like*
Must stop asking questions.....
manipulating teenage lads is easy

and yes i do have mind control powers, they're called boobies :p

Lol

manipulating teenage lads is easy
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Must Tag

Must Tag
:confused: why?

Well, i hope you've learnt your lesson...

:D Don't get caught, and in the future, LEG IT!

Well, i hope you've learnt your lesson...

:D Don't get caught, and in the future, LEG IT!

And then come and tell us about it again. :D

Damn Right!

manipulating teenage lads is easy

and yes i do have mind control powers, they're called boobies :p
I think you should show me your powers :p

I think you should show me your powers :p
lmao!

That's why I make sure the landlord is a boozehound myself

lmao!
Please? ;) :p

Hey tink, did you enjoy your lie in today?

Please? ;) :p

Hehe... I think that alone is sufficient proof of her powers. ;)

Hey tink, did you enjoy your lie in today?
no, my sister came in at 9am and woke me up, i'm still really tired :(

Hehe... I think that alone is sufficient proof of her powers. ;)

Heheheheh!

Please? ;) :p
what do i get in return? :p

no, my sister came in at 9am and woke me up, i'm still really tired :(

I resisted the idea of Txting you at 7:30 this morning... So be thankful for small favours.

'Cure insomina! Get more sleep!'

I resisted the idea of Txting you at 7:30 this morning... So be thankful for small favours.

'Cure insomina! Get more sleep!'
you really would've made me cry if you had

what do i get in return? :p
What would you like? ;)

what do i get in return? :p

I could get you another bottle of vodka if you like. :D ;)

you really would've made me cry if you had

LOL...

'Don't hate yourself in the morning... sleep till noon!'

(*Awaits tink to go TNE_Club and empty PM box*)

What would you like? ;)
well fly over to England and I'm sure I could think of something

I could get you another bottle of vodka if you like. :D ;)lol, i'm not enough of a desperate alcoholic to show people my 'powers' in exchange for a bottle of vodka

well fly over to England and I'm sure I could think of something
Hehe... trust me, nothing would be nicer ;)

Would a phone call be a good alternative?

lol, i'm not enough of a desperate alcoholic to show people my 'powers' in exchange for a bottle of vodka

Ah, well, it was worth a try. :p

If ever you're in Paris or nearby, though, I'll buy you a bottle anyway. :)

Hehe... trust me, nothing would be nicer ;)

Would a phone call be a good alternative?
lol, a phone call would be good except i'd go horribly shy

Ah, well, it was worth a try. :p

If ever you're in Paris or nearby, though, I'll buy you a bottle anyway. :)
ta very much, I'll be sure to remember that :fluffle:

She does.

Empty your PM box

lol, a phone call would be good except i'd go horribly shy
Hey, I'm really nice :)

I'm offering to call you all the way from Australia!

Hey, I'm really nice :)

I'm offering to call you all the way from Australia!
lol, i wouldn't know what to say

That can be fun... you end having one-way convosations with Tink

lol, i wouldn't know what to say
We're mates aren't we? We'd just talk crap :p

Or if you want, we can talk about 'other' stuff ;)

We're mates aren't we? We'd just talk crap :p

Or if you want, we can talk about 'other' stuff ;)
I'll let you text me

I'll let you text me
Its actually cheaper for me to call you for 15 minutes...

Its actually cheaper for me to call you for 15 minutes...

Really?

That's strange.

Its actually cheaper for me to call you for 15 minutes...
:eek: maybe I'll let you 1 day

Really?

That's strange.
To landlines, yeah. Not to mobiles.

:eek: maybe I'll let you 1 day
I'd love to hear your voice... I LOVE English accents ;)

Of course, you prolly don't want me to like you anymore than I like you now :p

To landlines, yeah. Not to mobiles.
well i'm definately not giving out my home number

To landlines, yeah. Not to mobiles.

Oh. Well I think tink would only give you her Mobile number, as with home numbers you can work out where people live...and you don't to be sent letter bombs now, would ya Tink?

well i'm definately not giving out my home number
Wow lack of trust!

In that case, I could prolly message you... but not that often.

PS Ariddia: Results of election/hosts? :D

Tink, did you like my crappy E-greeting I sent you...

PS Ariddia: Results of election/hosts? :D

Coming this evening, Spaam, as announced. :)

Coming this evening, Spaam, as announced. :)
I want them now :p

Can you give tell me who's leading? ;)

Tink, did you like my crappy E-greeting I sent you...
havn't got it

I sent to your address...

I sent to your address...you pot .co.uk not .com didn't you?

I copyed what you sent me

What are you talking about? Pot?

I don't go near the stuff...

Or was that a typo?

What are you talking about? Pot?

I don't go near the stuff...

Or was that a typo?
it was a typo, i meant put

I want them now :p

Can you give tell me who's leading? ;)

You'll have to wait a few hours, like everyone else. :p

I can tell you that, for now, it's a draw. There are two hosting bids jointly in the lead.

Now be patient, and stop hyjacking TInk's thread. :p

Yeah as I said.

I copyed what you sent me.

You'll have to wait a few hours, like everyone else. :p

I can tell you that, for now, it's a draw. There are two hosting bids jointly in the lead.

Now be patient, and stop hyjacking TInk's thread. :p
I meant the Pres election ;)

And sure :p

Yeah as I said.

I copyed what you sent me.
maybe i put it wrong

xxellyxx@hotmail.co.uk

Thats what i sent it to.

Twice now.

EDIT: now three

Thats what i sent it to.

Twice now.

EDIT: now three
still not got it

I'll try sending you a normal email.

I'll try sending you a normal email.
ok

So Tink nice to se you back did the LAndlady(obviously not a lady)invite you into the lav?

E-mail sent.

I'm a real LADY!

E-mail sent.
i got it

So Tink nice to se you back did the LAndlady(obviously not a lady)invite you into the lav?
yes

i got it

How strange... That's the same address I've sent the cards to... do you have some sort of filter up?

yes
So she was trying to set you up Correct?

How strange... That's the same address I've sent the cards to... do you have some sort of filter up?
no

So she was trying to set you up Correct?
no, she said she took me into the loo so that i wasn't embarassed in front of all my friends

no

Do you have a folder they might have been diverted into???

Nevermind... they weren't important.

You replied to me?

Do you have a folder they might have been diverted into???

Nevermind... they weren't important.

You replied to me?
no

will you?

no, she said she took me into the loo so that i wasn't embarassed in front of all my friends
Oh so you had 'illegally' smuggled stuff into the PUB?

will you?
why?

No reason... Just wanna make sure It works....

*Feels foolish and folds up into a ball in the corner*

Oh so you had 'illegally' smuggled stuff into the PUB?
well apparently it wasn't actually illegal

No reason... Just wanna make sure It works....

*Feels foolish and folds up into a ball in the corner*
I got the e-card thing

No reason... Just wanna make sure It works....

*Feels foolish and folds up into a ball in the corner*
*Takes ball outsideshoots hopes!*

well apparently it wasn't actually illegal
I used 'Illegal' for a reason. ;)
So your allowed to bring Alcomahol into Pubs?

I got the e-card thing

What?

1 of the 3?

well apparently it wasn't actually illegal

Well you are over 16 in a bar - Not illegal

You are under 18 drinking spirits on a licensed premises - Illegal

The person who bought it for you despite being 18 was buying it for you - Also illegal on that premises (not sure about if you did it in your own home though)

And if you smuggled it in and didn't buy it in the actual bar then they can turf you out anyways....

*Takes ball outsideshoots hopes!*

Bah?

What?

1 of the 3?
all 3

Well you are over 16 in a bar - Not illegal
And if you smuggled it in and didn't buy it in the actual bar then they can turf you out anyways....
Thats what i was getting at! :D

Thats what i was getting at! :D
http://mms.xtra.co.nz/do/

DOH!


oh and your image don't work ;)

all 3

Crap were they.

Hey.. did you figure out who your secret lover was?

XXX;)

Crap were they.

Hey.. did you figure out who your secret lover was?

XXX;)
lol, I have no idea! :p

Bah?
*Feels foolish and folds up into a ball in the corner*


*Takes ball outsideshoots hopes!*

Hey TINK

Fluffle Snake eaters in this thread http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8562907&posted=1#post8562907

You have another card.

lol, I have no idea! :p
How does one have a secret lover? :confused:
What the sneak in thru the window with a mask on! :(

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrhhhhhhhh!!! http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8562882&postcount=36 :eek:

How does one have a secret lover? :confused:
What the sneak in thru the window with a mask on! :(

I couldn't spell admirerere????

see, told ya!

DOH!


oh and your image don't work ;)
Its alright you explained it better!
Your also correct my stupid pic didnt work ive got to do some "TINK"ering! ;)

I couldn't spell admirerere????

see, told ya!
Eh its ok i missed a y on the back of 'the' y
What they sneak in thru the window with a mask on!

Oh well...

I don't think she knows who it is anyway....

ive got to do some "TINK"ering! ;)

Lucky swine... :p

Lucky swine... :p
:eek:

Lol

Oh well...

I don't think she knows who it is anyway....
Tis you Silly!
PM should be angry!!!! :eek:

Prove it... There is no evidence.

:eek:

What? :confused:

Lucky swine... :p
Shoosh im engaged! :eek:

What? :confused:
you, are a very dirty boy Colin! http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/naughty/2.gif

you, are a very dirty boy Colin! http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/naughty/2.gif

As youv'e got your whip, I'm somewhat unclean :D

As youv'e got your whip, I'm somewhat unclean :D
lol http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/naughty/7.gif

Kinky...

:D

Prove it... There is no evidence.
Bush Blair and Howard had no Evidence but theyve still gone on Crusade!
Jokey (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/harlesburg/Jokey1.bmp)

lol http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/naughty/7.gif
Oh go on Tink put you back into it!
Jokey (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/harlesburg/Jokey1.bmp)

lol http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/naughty/7.gif


Ohh Yeah, Beat me Mistress Tinks. :D

LOL....

I confess Tink... It wasn't Pm...

It was me....