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As a teenage male not suffering from any mental diseases, I consider pornography to be one of Gods greatests gifts to the Universe. It's right up there with sliced bread and electricity. Simply hours and hours of fun. It's entertaining, instructional, and sometimes it's pretty darn funny. But, do we ever consider what it's like for the people who make pornography?

In regular movies (and television) it's become almost standard for people to associate actors and actresses with the characters they play. If you're walking down the street and you see an actor one of your first thoughts is "Oh, look, it's Cordelia from Angel." or "Hey, wasn't that guy in Die Hard?" maybe even "Dude, I loved him in The Wrath of Kahn!". It's only after you get over your initial shock at seeing a celebrity that you begin to recall that persons real name, what they act like in real life, and what they've done recently (besides acting). For most actors it's not that big of a deal, probably a little irritating to be always known as "That guy on that TV show that used to be that channel with the stuff" but not very detrimental to their lives. I mean seriously, I doubt even todays public could think you're really a robot sent back in time. Plus, most actors have at least a tiny bit of range. They might always be in action flicks, but they switch between being the good guy and the bad guy. They might sometimes do an emotional movie or a comedy. It's hard to have only one view of an actor, since they've often been good & bad, funny & serious, a man & a woman (Hey, some movies are just weird). But with pornography it's a whole different story.

Most porn movies are about one thing: sex (duh). Whether they're pretending to be serious or pretending to be funny there's still that one theme running through it: sex. So, the actors are all associated with one thing: sex, and the thing is that it actually is believable that the actors have sex a lot. It's a normal part of real life (Unlike prehistoric lizards breathing fire) and it's easy to associate it with real people. So, when you see a porn star walking down the stree you think "Hot damn, she was in..... (Okay, I can't think of any titles right now)" then you think "Man, I could probably get with her! She has to be loose!" Now, I'm the first to admit that the evidence does point to porn stars not exactly being puritanical in their daily lives, but the evidence in Junior points to Arnold being able to get pregnant and that's just unlikely. Just because they're in porn doesn't mean that they're willing to sleep with every single person who walks by them in the street. But society views them as such. No matter what they're like in real life, all porn actors are believed to be nothing but nymphomaniacs in reality. Admit it, you've thought it yourself at least once.

Anyway, I don't really have anything more to say along these lines, but I just want you to think about it. Whatever your personal opinion on pornography is (And I know many people who object to it whole-heartedly) don't automaically transfer those opinions to the people in pornography. They're normal people who act normally, and treat them as such.

There was a documentary on MTV (I think it was MTV, anyways) about the porn industry, and it had interviews with various porn stars past and present, and a few of them mentioned that very thing...

One of them put it (and this is highly paraphrased), that it seems as though most people think that they are entitled to sex, or sexual contact, from these entertainers... She talked about how no matter where she went, or what she was doing, guys would assume it would be ok to grab her and such...

So yeah, it apparently is a problem...

Hahaha. Klonor, you're a porn star, aren't you?

;)

i'm surprised they would reconise porn stars by their faces....... :eek: :D :confused:

Most people have problems seperating fantasy from reality. But this isn't just aproblem in the porn industry. How do you think the guy that played Spock feels every time he steps out of his door?

Now, generally, the difference is that they don't touch the stars. Generally. But sometimes rabid fans or even casual consumers will go out of their way to meet, greet, and fondle any star they see. It's been ingrained in them from the time they were children.

I love pornography. My wife doesn't see what's attractive about pictures or movies so much. She's more into stories and such.

But I wouldn't want to fuck Jenna Jameson or any of the other men/women in pornography for at least two reasons. 1) I am very devoted to my wife. 2) (and EVERYONE who watches porn has thought about it) They probably have at least one type of venereal disease that I wouldn't want to take the risk of catching and, by proxy, harming my wife with.

Fantasy is good. This culture where we have taught people to overlay fantasy onto reality is not.

Actually, #2 is steadily becoming less and less likely. In recent times the government (At least the US government) has been making an effort to bring the Adult Entertainment Industry out of the gutter it has fallen into and has begun to make sure everything is going well. Many laws have been passed making effort to curb the spread of disease, including regular blood tests and mandatory protection, and make sure that production methods don't expose any of the actors to the dangers that might occur.

I think some pornstars have issues. I was watching a video of a girl having a dick shoved down her throat, her eyes were red and watering, she looked sick.

And I thought: I wonder what she's thinking right now?

"I should've stayed in the military."

"If only I hadn't dropped out of college."

"I hope he doesn't pinch my nose closed. I hate it when they fucking do that."

I think most would argue that pornography is a-ok here in this forum. As long as its not viewed by children but consenting mature adults.

Whats most fucked up, is parents who watch pornography with their children in the same room and then had sex whlie their children are running around.

WHOA! What the hell are you talking about?

Most porn movies are about one thing: sex (duh). Whether they're pretending to be serious or pretending to be funny there's still that one theme running through it: sex.
So they're pretending to have funny sex or pretending to have serious sex? They're not actually having sex! :eek: :confused:

Plus I would never think that a porn star would want to sleep with me. I mean, look at them! They're porn stars! :eek: Why would they want to get it on with someone like me?:(

I think most would argue that pornography is a-ok here in this forum. As long as its not viewed by children but consenting mature adults.

Whats most fucked up, is parents who watch pornography with their children in the same room and then had sex whlie their children are running around.

Where the hell you you live.... can we avoid it/ have it sectioned off?

Whats most fucked up, is parents who watch pornography with their children in the same room and then had sex whlie their children are running around.

At the risk of sounding completely depraved, because that's not where I'm going with this, historically, do you really think people went sneaking off to hide in the bushes or do you think they just had sex right there in the tent/cave/cabin with the kids right next to them. How do you think kids used to learn? There was no nosy sex ed teacher around to make up for embarrased parents.
And from what I've heard it's not some porn stars, it's pretty much all of them that are messed up. Ask any psychologist what causes that sort of thing.

Most people have problems seperating fantasy from reality. But this isn't just aproblem in the porn industry. How do you think the guy that played Spock feels every time he steps out of his door?

Lenard Nimoy once said in his autobiographical book entitled I am not Spock! he gets people confusing him with an alien all the time.;)

Anyway, I don't really have anything more to say along these lines, but I just want you to think about it. Whatever your personal opinion on pornography is (And I know many people who object to it whole-heartedly) don't automaically transfer those opinions to the people in pornography. They're normal people who act normally, and treat them as such.

Actually I feel sorry that the woman feel they have to exploit themselves, I'd probably throw a dollar at them if I saw them in the streets. Straight porn to me just look like the woman's being violated, it's like she's had ten guys go through her that day, she really isn't enjoying it.

It's plausib;e to think that protitutes would get into porn, but this is most likely because the only way they know to make money is by selling there bodies. There not a thing to be admired, but pitied.

Actually I feel sorry that the woman feel they have to exploit themselves...

But the men are always fine, eh? :confused: No problems, right?:|

Actually, if you read any industry journals, you quickly find out that the porn industry is filled with sex and drugs. They really are just as sleazy as people think they are.

Where the hell you you live.... can we avoid it/ have it sectioned off?

Well. I did a small study on pornography, and there was this case in 1997, where a 10 year old kid, raped and killed his little sister.

Psychologist studied him and found out that his parents watched pornography and had sex while they were in the room and stuff.

Pretty sick no? But one of the other extreme cases of pornography IMO.

But the men are always fine, eh? :confused: No problems, right?:|
The men might as well be out of work models or dirty old men. They have this look in their eye, it disgusts me honestly. They are unimportant in heterosexual porn, a thousand men will put there hand up to be in porn before a woman. Testosterone is a horrid thing.

The men might as well be out of work models or dirty old men. They have this look in their eye, it disgusts me honestly. They are unimportant in heterosexual porn, a thousand men will put there hand up to be in porn before a woman. Testosterone is a horrid thing.
yay gay porn has a point for men and women.....

yay gay porn has a point for men and women.....
Eh ya love it or ya hate it lol. I inparticular don't hate it lol. I'm somewhat not the greatest supporter of porn as the trivialisation of sex seems to make people think every gay man is easy. Which then leads to a stream of predictable one night stands in my case.

Many lesbian pornographies are straight woman who have no option but to go against there natural sexuality and sit there moaning and groaning over something that does not actually interest them. You won't find as many straight men doing that for sure. Nonetheless, don't watch porn, get sex, if you can't get sex then watch porn, but make sure its male gayporn ha!

To conclude, fake tits, fake faces and fake sex is not hot.

Eh ya love it or ya hate it lol. I inparticular don't hate it lol. I'm somewhat not the greatest supporter of porn as the trivialisation of sex seems to make people think every gay man is easy. Which then leads to a stream of predictable one night stands in my case.

Many lesbian pornographies are straight woman who have no option but to go against there natural sexuality and sit there moaning and groaning over something that does not actually interest them. You won't find as many straight men doing that for sure. Nonetheless, don't watch porn, get sex, if you can't get sex then watch porn, but make sure its male gayporn ha!

To conclude, fake tits, fake faces and fake sex is not hot.
well you have to love 2 men best set-up there is IMO.

I think some pornstars have issues. I was watching a video of a girl having a dick shoved down her throat, her eyes were red and watering, she looked sick.

And I thought: I wonder what she's thinking right now?

"I should've stayed in the military."

"If only I hadn't dropped out of college."

"I hope he doesn't pinch my nose closed. I hate it when they fucking do that."
Most likely its "Swallow and relax my throat", but hey maybe its that stuff too.

Yes, we all love a bit of hot man on man action, or even better man on man on man action, a train gang.;)

So are you saying that the men in straight porn are diffrent from those in gay porn in a way other than their orientation Glinde Nessroe?

Yes, we all love a bit of hot man on man action, or even better man on man on man action, a train gang.;)

So are you saying that the men in straight porn are diffrent from those in gay porn in a way other than their orientation Glinde Nessroe?
Actually, alot of guys in gay porn are straight.

I guess it stops peeople from acting their fantasies in public.


I have no problem with it. At all.

I'd type something intelligent, but my hands are busy.

Actually, alot of guys in gay porn are straight.

Yes, gay for pay. So are these men just wanting to be sexually famous, or are they driven to this more than these young ladies?

Actually, alot of guys in gay porn are straight.

IIRC, Hugh Jackman used to do gay porn at some point...i seem to remember an interview for swordfish where he talked about it...apparently his son saw his dad on the front of one of the videos after running into the wrong section of a video store...

And from what I've heard it's not some porn stars, it's pretty much all of them that are messed up. Ask any psychologist what causes that sort of thing.
Most porn stars, especially the females, were sexually abused as children. Children who have sex at a very early age tend to sexualize almost all relationships.

IIRC, Hugh Jackman used to do gay porn at some point...i seem to remember an interview for swordfish where he talked about it...apparently his son saw his dad on the front of one of the videos after running into the wrong section of a video store...

You may be thinking of "Priscilla:Queen of the Desert" which he was on the cover of in gay drag... I don't think he ever did porn...

Those who love watching porn put your hand up. Those watching it now, get your hand off it. Porn is surely... oh you said intelligent discussion? My bad.

:eek: <--- think about that in the dirtiest way possible.

Most porn stars, especially the females, were sexually abused as children. Children who have sex at a very early age tend to sexualize almost all relationships.

You have proof for this wild accusation?

You have proof of this wild accusation?
It's hardly a "wild accusation." It's well-established that early sexual experiences, whether rape or not, tend to make individuals sexualize most relationships. Ask a psychologist.

It's hardly a "wild accusation." It's well-established that early sexual experiences, whether rape or not, tend to make individuals sexualize most relationships. Ask a psychologist.

That isnt what you claimed though. Your claim was that:
Most porn stars, especially the females, were sexually abused as children.

There is a big difference between what you said now and what you claimed originally. They are two entirely different statements. Again, do you have proof to back up the statement I quoted here?

Ya know, I've always wanted to be able to say "I have a friend who's a porn star." Not many porn stars originate from a small town in Georgia tho.....


You know the worse thing about porn (erm well the only bad thing about porn) is the music! My God in Heaven.....where do they get that crap music? Its like someone is sitting in the corner on a Yamaha, playing with the various sounds and rhythms.....none of which are sexy. Urg! Why cant they make porn to the sound of the Top 40's or something? sigh.....

You know the worse thing about porn (erm well the only bad thing about porn) is the music! My God in Heaven.....where do they get that crap music? Its like someone is sitting in the corner on a Yamaha, playing with the various sounds and rhythms.....none of which are sexy. Urg! Why cant they make porn to the sound of the Top 40's or something? sigh.....

Hahahaha!!! I have this one film, and do you know what the music is? A Hanson (1990's teeny bopper brothers) cover of "Mmm, Bop!" on the electric piano and Britney Speares "One more time" on the honkey tonk! :eek:

They make better music for the sex scenes in movies than in sex films!

Hahahaha!!! I have this one film, and do you know what the music is? A Hanson (1990's teeny bopper brothers) cover of "Mmm, Bop!" on the electric piano and Britney Speares "One more time" on the honkey tonk! :eek:

They make better music for the sex scenes in movies than in sex films!


Oh gag! How can one stay aroused when "Mmmm Bop" is playing???? :confused:

I'd like to see a porn set to Classical, Country and the River Dance Melody.....just for kicks.

Oh gag! How can one stay aroused when "Mmmm Bop" is playing???? :confused:

I'd like to see a porn set to Classical, Country and the River Dance Melody.....just for kicks.
Ever seen soft porn? They do it while floppy

LizzyHippies and others - yes, actually, Eutrusca is right: the overwhelming majority (c. 92%) of women in the porn industry are people from impoverished backgrounds who were sexually and mentally abused in their youth, believing themselves not worthy of making money in a respectable fashion. Rather than criticise them, we ought to be doing something to help them get out of such vile circumstances.

Don't believe me? See the work of MacKinnon, Bryson, Janeway, Flanagan, Bates, Gilligan etc. Plenty more to back the above up.

You may be thinking of "Priscilla:Queen of the Desert" which he was on the cover of in gay drag... I don't think he ever did porn...

In which case I now look like a fool :D

Oh gag! How can one stay aroused when "Mmmm Bop" is playing???? :confused:

I'd like to see a porn set to Classical, Country and the River Dance Melody.....just for kicks.

I'd like one set to dance. Not the music set over the picture, but where they actually move in time with the music. How sick is that, eh?:)

I'd like one set to dance. Not the music set over the picture, but where they actually move in time with the music. How sick is that, eh?:)

Thatd be hilarious. Try having sex to the beat/melody of a song like that.......youre sure to end up laughing your way right out of an orgasm-lol.

In which case I now look like a fool :D

No, you'd only look like a fool if you said it while making love to "Mmm, Bop!":P

Ever seen soft porn? They do it while floppy


I dunno if thats a pun or a real factoid........lol.....either way- booo@soft porn :fluffle:

Thatd be hilarious. Try having sex to the beat/melody of a song like that.......youre sure to end up laughing your way right out of an orgasm-lol.
Brings new meaning to the song "Hit me baby one more time!":p

I dunno if thats a pun or a real factoid........lol.....either way- booo@soft porn :fluffle:
YAY for softporn. At least it's not focussed on getting as many genitalia as possible into one screen

No, you'd only look like a fool if you said it while making love to "Mmm, Bop!":P


Pat.....if I get the song "Mmm Bop" stuck in my head the next time I have sex......I'm coming to get you!


And I have YET to see a porn with John Holmes in it....I wanna see what all the fuss is about.

No, you'd only look like a fool if you said it while making love to "Mmm, Bop!":P

Well that ain't happened so its all good! :D

YAY for softporn. At least it's not focussed on getting as many genitalia as possible into one screen


I'm sorry :(


YAY for soft porn!

LizzyHippies and others - yes, actually, Eutrusca is right: the overwhelming majority (c. 92%) of women in the porn industry are people from impoverished backgrounds who were sexually and mentally abused in their youth, believing themselves not worthy of making money in a respectable fashion. Rather than criticise them, we ought to be doing something to help them get out of such vile circumstances.

Don't believe me? See the work of MacKinnon, Bryson, Janeway, Flanagan, Bates, Gilligan etc. Plenty more to back the above up.

Name the books and the studies they site. The only name I was able to find from your list was MacKinnon, a Feminazi from the lesbian fringe who uses history rather than actual studies to attempt to prove her point.

Pat.....if I get the song "Mmm Bop" stuck in my head the next time I have sex......I'm coming to get you!


Promises! Promises!;) As for John Holms I am unimpressed. He didn't even look like he was enjoying it, and I find it more appealing if someone is having a good time, even if it's not me.:(

You know what? I think I've destroyed this thread. Totally railroaded it from the issues in pornography. I think that's because I have such a small mind.

YAY for softporn. At least it's not focussed on getting as many genitalia as possible into one screen

Hard core shows more than pink bits...

YAY for softporn. At least it's not focussed on getting as many genitalia as possible into one screen


didnt soft porn originate when the "fluff" girl's union went on strike?

didnt soft porn originate when the "fluff" girl's union went on strike?

Hard core used to be illegal, but that was a joke, right?

Hard core used to be illegal, but that was a joke, right?

I guess it depends on where you are...

I was talking U.S.

England still has a lot of censorship laws, don't they? As well as Canada? I'm just shooting from the hip, not 100%

Hard core used to be illegal, but that was a joke, right?

Yeah-It was a joke. I though fluffers having a union was pretty funny. Sorry if it wasnt.

Yeah-It was a joke. I though fluffers having a union was pretty funny. Sorry if it wasnt.

Actually, fluffers do have unions. And it was funny, just making sure you were joking.

I was talking U.S.

England still has a lot of censorship laws, don't they? As well as Canada? I'm just shooting from the hip, not 100%

I dunno, but here (Queensland, Australia) the laws are novel. You are not allowed to sell X rated material in any form, it is illegal. However it is legal to buy, own, produce, distrube (for free), swap and trade. Just can't sell it. Department of fair trading crack down on places that do.

Actually, fluffers do have unions. And it was funny, just making sure you were joking.


Wow...I guess they are part of the film indistry.
I'd love to sit in on a union meeting and hear some of the issue raised.

We Want Less Well Hung Men! Our Hands Get Tired! More Workmen's Comp For Carpal Tunnel!

Wow...I guess they are part of the film indistry.
I'd love to sit in on a union meeting and hear some of the issue raised.

Dental plans and strep throat or thrush I'm guessing would be major issues...

Why don't we ask these guys? :cool:
Source (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12688965-13762,00.html)

Porn flick filmed at uni party
From correspondents in San Francisco
March 29, 2005

A CALIFORNIA university, once ranked by Playboy magazine as the top US party school, is probing a fraternity over an event where a hard-core sex film was made.

California State University Chico had suspended the 25-member chapter of Phi Kappa Tau while it investigated the party at which professional porn actors were filmed having sex last October, said school spokesman Joe Wills today.

Shane's World, a Southern California maker of adult films, including ones featuring partying college students, provided four female and two male actors for the film, a spokeswoman said.

A trailer of the toga-themed film, on sale on DVD for $US24.95 ($32.46), appears on the filmmaker's website. Three Chico State students had sex on film, said Shane's World spokeswoman Nicole Henderson.

"On Friday we suspended the fraternity," said Mr Wills. "We're trying to gather information as fast as we can right now."

The fraternity chapter would not be able to participate in school events until the university concluded its investigation, which stemmed from a rumour circulating on campus, said Rick Rees, a student activities official.

The fraternity chapter could not be reached for comment on the film, the most recent scandal to hit Chico State.

Earlier this month, police arrested students in connection with the death of a student during a Chi Tau fraternity hazing ritual.

Chico is a college town in a rural area of northern California.

Ms Henderson said the film company was contacted for its films by college students, who had to verify they were older than 18 and sign release forms to be at parties and appear in its College Invasion series of films.

"We bring the porn stars and the cameras, and we just film," she said. "We get hundreds of letters every month from college students wanting us to come out to their schools."

Shane's World had made six College Invasion films since 2000 and was in talks with university students for future films, Ms Henderson said.

We Want Less Well Hung Men! Our Hands Get Tired! More Workmen's Comp For Carpal Tunnel!


Yeah- and no more holding ears or hair.

At what point do you stop paying to send your child to college?

Yeah- and no more holding ears or hair.
Look, if you don't want the job, you can go back to schluffing jons in the alley. :mad:

Look, if you don't want the job, you can go back to schluffing jons in the alley. :mad:


Too late-they are in the union and have tenure. They can never be fired now. I hope they dont want to start smoking on the job .

I feel that I need to interject even more controversey into this argument, via RELIGION.

As a network administrator one of my tasks with my current employer is to monitor the systems of employees that have internet access to the internet to make sure they are not fooling around.

I have noticed a tendency for the most openly religious employees to download the most porn. My boss and president of the company is a very Christian man and encourages displays of religion in the office. We had one gentleman, who is now fired, that decorated his office with crucifixes, a picture of Jesus and several 'inspirational' poster given to him by his Baptist Minister. One night, when he thought no one would ever see what he was doing, he installed Kazaa and downloaded nearly 10 GB of porn, including animal and child porn.

We had another former employee, who actually went to my bosses church and actually would sit in the lunch room and rant and rail about 'sin' and 'perversion' . Not only were copious amounts of pornography found on his system , he also turned out to be cheating on his wife.

Those are two examples. I have noticed that 100% of the people fired for inappropriate use of their company computer (i.e. pr0n!) have been conspicously religious.

My question is: Are religious people more prone to secretly view pornography? Maybe because of repression? OR are these dirty filthy perverts attempting to mask their perversion with relgious paraphenalia thinking they can throw me off the trail?

For the record. I am a filthy pervert, and yet I have no porn on my work computer, I know two other filthy perverts (I have lunch with them) and they too are clean and clear.

So, what are your thoughts on religion, and pornography?

OR are these dirty filthy perverts attempting to mask their perversion with relgious paraphenalia thinking they can throw me off the trail?

This would be the correct answer pretty much universally, at least it would seem so from my experiance.

We now turn to page 69 and say "Good God, Amen to that sister". damnit i'm in the gutter now

I feel that I need to interject even more controversey into this argument, via RELIGION.

As a network administrator one of my tasks with my current employer is to monitor the systems of employees that have internet access to the internet to make sure they are not fooling around.

I have noticed a tendency for the most openly religious employees to download the most porn. My boss and president of the company is a very Christian man and encourages displays of religion in the office. We had one gentleman, who is now fired, that decorated his office with crucifixes, a picture of Jesus and several 'inspirational' poster given to him by his Baptist Minister. One night, when he thought no one would ever see what he was doing, he installed Kazaa and downloaded nearly 10 GB of porn, including animal and child porn.

We had another former employee, who actually went to my bosses church and actually would sit in the lunch room and rant and rail about 'sin' and 'perversion' . Not only were copious amounts of pornography found on his system , he also turned out to be cheating on his wife.

Those are two examples. I have noticed that 100% of the people fired for inappropriate use of their company computer (i.e. pr0n!) have been conspicously religious.

My question is: Are religious people more prone to secretly view pornography? Maybe because of repression? OR are these dirty filthy perverts attempting to mask their perversion with relgious paraphenalia thinking they can throw me off the trail?

For the record. I am a filthy pervert, and yet I have no porn on my work computer, I know two other filthy perverts (I have lunch with them) and they too are clean and clear.

So, what are your thoughts on religion, and pornography?

You've made an amazing observation-something many of us usually arent in a position to witness. I dont know what that deal is. I'm Christian and I have no problem with pornography-within what I feel to be reasonable. Absolutely no underage or animals, just what in my opinion to be normal. I dont think God hasa problem with that.
There is a time and place for everything-work certainly isnt the place for pornography.

You'd be suprised what people will put on their work computers.

My question is: Are religious people more prone to secretly view pornography? Maybe because of repression? OR are these dirty filthy perverts attempting to mask their perversion with relgious paraphenalia thinking they can throw me off the trail?


I don't think they're trying to trick you. I think they are trying to control a problem that they believe they have and is exacerbated by the guilt they feel when they do it. As any red-blooded teenage boy knows, if you're not supposed to do it, it becomes a little more exciting. Well, some of them go out and get it out of their system and some, the more religious type, generally don't. They always have these urges to do things that they can't do and I think it festers. Hence, a guy looking at stuff in the middle of the night when no one is looking because he feels caught between a rock and a hard place. (no pun intended)

LizzyHippies and others - yes, actually, Eutrusca is right: the overwhelming majority (c. 92%) of women in the porn industry are people from impoverished backgrounds who were sexually and mentally abused in their youth, believing themselves not worthy of making money in a respectable fashion. Rather than criticise them, we ought to be doing something to help them get out of such vile circumstances.

Don't believe me? See the work of MacKinnon, Bryson, Janeway, Flanagan, Bates, Gilligan etc. Plenty more to back the above up.

I saw this documentary where they interviewed a director and his porn star wife and even she agreed that most were sexually abused as children and hated their bodies/didn't care anymore. Seriously most women would not think being filmed having unemotional sex was fun. The others, girls running to Hollywood offered an 'acting role' and think they can work their way up...and soon learn they can't.

BTW, I'm a famous film director. Would you like to come to my mansion for drinks and to discuss my new movie? :eek:

So, what are your thoughts on religion, and pornography?

I like religious pornography.

I think most would argue that pornography is a-ok here in this forum. As long as its not viewed by children but consenting mature adults.

Whats most fucked up, is parents who watch pornography with their children in the same room and then had sex whlie their children are running around.

WHAT the HELL are you TALKING ABOUT?

I wonder what pornography the Pope looks at?

Why do so many Feminazis say "Oh no, the women are being exploited, blah blah blah, blame the wicked men"? Those women are willing to sell their dignity. It's their own problem. They aren't be forced to sign the contract, to take off their clothes, to go at it. If they felt like it, they could say, "No, I'd rather work at a car wash," or "I'd much prefer to take inventory in a large company." Even the poorest woman could probably get a job flipping burgers and work their way up, from Burger Flipper to Cashier to Customer Relations to Manager.

can someone tell my why it is undignified for a woman to act in a porn movie?

sure, if she is coerced or doesn't want to do it...but has it occurred to anyone that women may actually like doing it?

btw i'm not a porn star ;)
just someone trying to see past the usual phrases which are hauled out in response to certain situations

I wonder what pornography the Pope looks at?

BDSM, of course: haven't you seen "Pope-on-a-Rope"?

but has it occurred to anyone that women may actually like doing it?


Women do NOT like sex!!! Back, back evil Feminist! *holds up chair*

BDSM, of course: haven't you seen "Pope-on-a-Rope"?
*has to bleach his brain to remove the mental images*

Ah, porn. Video friend of teenagers and men in dirty macs alike [/stereotyping]. Seriously though, I can watch some porn, but some of that kinky stuff is just twisted. Why anyone would be into, say, bestiality or fake-rape porn, or even bukkake, is just beyond me.

As an aside, what's the general consensus on Hentai?

I think most would argue that pornography is a-ok here in this forum.

I don't.

Apologies if this has been said before, having not had time to review the whole thread - but I think that pornography desensitizes people and perpetuates harmful beliefs about women and men

Actually I feel sorry that the woman feel they have to exploit themselves, I'd probably throw a dollar at them if I saw them in the streets. Straight porn to me just look like the woman's being violated, it's like she's had ten guys go through her that day, she really isn't enjoying it.


You see female porn stars interviewed on Laid Baire, on Bravo, and none give that impression.

Although some probably do just do it for money, most to me sound like they do it because they just like having sex a lot (and to be a pornstar, they must really like being done a lot), and enjoy doing it in front of a camera - nothing degrading about it. Maybe with more than one guy, or girl, and over and over and over again. A man does it and hes a c**t, a women does it and shes being taken advantage of; damn you anti-porno people.

Is there a limit before it becomes abuse or something? It's not like they're forced, and besides getting an STI, I can't think of any drawback to being a pornstar.

As an aside, what's the general consensus on Hentai?

They can have kids in that because there is no law on cartoons?

Hentai is very very very funny.

The tentacles are just wierd.

I don't see how anybody can find it erotic, but I guess there's something for everyone.

Why do so many Feminazis say "Oh no, the women are being exploited, blah blah blah, blame the wicked men"? Those women are willing to sell their dignity. It's their own problem. They aren't be forced to sign the contract, to take off their clothes, to go at it. If they felt like it, they could say, "No, I'd rather work at a car wash," or "I'd much prefer to take inventory in a large company." Even the poorest woman could probably get a job flipping burgers and work their way up, from Burger Flipper to Cashier to Customer Relations to Manager.
Did you even read what I wrote about girls thinking they can work their way up into the regular film industry? I guess not. And there's only so many burger joints in Hollywood, they're not that popular there.

I was talking U.S.

England still has a lot of censorship laws, don't they? As well as Canada? I'm just shooting from the hip, not 100%

I don't think we do in England.

Im 18 and if I felt like it could go into any newsagent and buy a hardcore porn magazine or video/dvd. Is that what you mean by censorship? Or how graphic they are allowed to be?

It's hardly a "wild accusation." It's well-established that early sexual experiences, whether rape or not, tend to make individuals sexualize most relationships. Ask a psychologist.

What is wrong with "sexualized" relationships?

What is wrong with "sexualized" relationships?
Obviously sexualized romantic relationships are a good thing, but I would think it's hard to argue that sexualized relationships with parents, kids, siblings, co-workers or little boys (ala Michael Jackson) is a good thing.

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!

Testosterone is a horrid thing.
And the female supremacist (I'm not going to denigrate the good name of true feminism) reveals herself with these five words.

They have this look in their eye, it disgusts me honestly. They are unimportant in heterosexual porn, a thousand men will put there hand up to be in porn before a woman. Testosterone is a horrid thing.
So what is it about "teh evil testoster0ne" that makes men, who are inidentally lower than worms, want to be in porn so much?

I guess you are going to say something like "women only like sex with men they love", which as we all know is bullshit.

I do have an opinion on the topic but I rather not post anything else but these two sentences:

Alicia Rio rocks (well, at least she did on old worn out tapes from the late 80s :fluffle: )