NationStates Jolt Archive


The Name Jesus

Simplicithuy
29-03-2005, 09:00
A friend brought up a pretty interesting question to me and I wanted to know what all the different answers may be: Why would you name your child Jesus? If you are religious, are you saying that your son is equivalent to Jesus in some form or way, that he is comparable? Is it an insult? And if you are not religious, why would you name your child that? does it have a different meaning in different languages?
Helioterra
29-03-2005, 09:09
It's a common name. Should people avoid names that more famous persons have got? Like Siddhartha or Mohammed. I wouldn't give such name but then again, I wouldn't give any other religious name either. (which is pretty difficult because most of the names have some religious meaning)
Zarregale
29-03-2005, 09:16
Weeeelllllll, Jesus is simply a name. Christ, on the other hand, is derived from the greek Christos, or Savior. And regardless of what you believe, Jesus was a good guy and deserves respect and emulation. Lots of people name children for those they respect.
Simplicithuy
29-03-2005, 09:21
Weeeelllllll, Jesus is simply a name. Christ, on the other hand, is derived from the greek Christos, or Savior. And regardless of what you believe, Jesus was a good guy and deserves respect and emulation. Lots of people name children for those they respect.


that is very true, yet what if you have someone who names their child but then the child is absolutely rotten and horrid, and the paretns can't seem to do anything to discipline them, in that situation, would it be disrespect? I'm just curious, I don't really have any opinion, I just wanted to know what people thought.
Zarregale
29-03-2005, 09:24
that is very true, yet what if you have someone who names their child but then the child is absolutely rotten and horrid, and the paretns can't seem to do anything to discipline them, in that situation, would it be disrespect? I'm just curious, I don't really have any opinion, I just wanted to know what people thought.
Nt really. It would just mean that they were really bad parents or the kid was a jerk. It has absolutely no retroactive effect on the intent of respect or goodwill that went into the naming process.
Dobbs Town
29-03-2005, 09:24
How many women named Mary do you know? Joseph? It's just a name - so it doesn't get used in certain cultures, it no big deal.

Anybody know anyone with a given name like Thor? I've known a couple of different Thors, and I was stunned to learn it wasn't some affectation, a name they'd given themselves - but their actual given name!

Who'd a-thunk-it?
Oksana
29-03-2005, 10:17
Jesus is a name that has been used for centuries. Thus, the name Jesus for Christ. Jesus is usually used in Hispanic cultures nowadays. I know quite a few Jesuses. All of them were named after their father/grandfather. In many Hispanic cultures, very traditional naming customs still exist. Most Hispanic names are religious and the same names tend to be used generation from generation. Whereas countires like the US seem to make up names and then all of a sudden everyone names their child that. Traditionally, in many Hispanic cultures, it is custom to name the first son after a grandfather and the second son after the father. Although, those customs have changed. That is why Jesus tends to still be used as a name. In Spanish, Jesus is a very cool name. Out of most Spanish male names, Jesus is one of my favorites. :)
Helioterra
29-03-2005, 10:20
Oksana: or anyone else
I know Spanish often have both male and female names, like Jesus Maria or Maria Jesus (the first name tells the gender) but is it common in all hispanic countries or only in Spain?
Ankher
29-03-2005, 10:23
A friend brought up a pretty interesting question to me and I wanted to know what all the different answers may be: Why would you name your child Jesus? If you are religious, are you saying that your son is equivalent to Jesus in some form or way, that he is comparable? Is it an insult? And if you are not religious, why would you name your child that? does it have a different meaning in different languages?
Why would you name your child Mary, or Elisabeth, or Simon, or David, or... ?
Jesus/Yeshua is just a name, nothing more.
Greater Yubari
29-03-2005, 10:25
I think Jesus is pretty common in Spain.

Why would you name your triplets Tom, Dick and Harry?
Oksana
29-03-2005, 10:28
Oksana: or anyone else
I know Spanish often have both male and female names, like Jesus Maria or Maria Jesus (the first name tells the gender) but is it common in all hispanic countries or only in Spain?

The Jesuses I know were from Mexico. It is used throughout most Hispanic countries if not all. I believe it's more common in Mexico though. As for females, I'm not too sure that it's used for them too much anymore. That was a common tradition that started in Spain. Actually probably in France. I have descendants from Spain and France. In many families like mine, it was common to name a woman a "man's" name. For many centuries in my family, the first daughter was named after her father and took Marie as a middle name. Needless to say, there were like 5 Claude Maries in one generation.
Oksana
29-03-2005, 10:35
Oksana: or anyone else
I know Spanish often have both male and female names, like Jesus Maria or Maria Jesus (the first name tells the gender) but is it common in all hispanic countries or only in Spain?

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Helioterra
29-03-2005, 10:37
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someone else could have answered it too. maybe. perhaps. have a cookie. :D

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The necro penguin
29-03-2005, 10:49
i remember a documentary on the history channel where they said the name jesus was just the (and heres where my memory gets all confused) greek version of another name, i think it was jason, joseph, or james. maybe it was a hebrew version of a greek name? maybe i should've paid a little more attention instead of doing constant :rolleyes: 's.
Trilateral Commission
29-03-2005, 10:52
I think Jesus is Greek version of the Hebrew name Joshua
Swedish Donkeys
29-03-2005, 11:13
If we can name our children after the saints, then why not Jesus?

Besides, Jesus was merely a mistranslation from the greek scripture, the real aramaic name of Jesus was "Yeshua Ben Joseph"
Ankher
29-03-2005, 12:12
If we can name our children after the saints, then why not Jesus?

Besides, Jesus was merely a mistranslation from the greek scripture, the real aramaic name of Jesus was "Yeshua Ben Joseph"And "Joseph" is not merely a mistranslation from the greek scripture?
Keruvalia
29-03-2005, 13:39
Meh ... I named my son Hannibal.

Anyway, "Jesus" .... we call him "Isa", which is close to what his name actually was, but he was supposed to be called "Immanuel", so someone screwed the pooch there.

I'd rather accept the story of Brian.
LazyHippies
29-03-2005, 13:43
Oksana: or anyone else
I know Spanish often have both male and female names, like Jesus Maria or Maria Jesus (the first name tells the gender) but is it common in all hispanic countries or only in Spain?

Im hispanic and cant think of anyone with a male and female name except for St. Jose Maria Escriva who is in fact from Spain. So, it does sound like a purely Spanish thing.
Katganistan
29-03-2005, 13:44
Well, in some cultures we name children after people whom we hope they will emulate in later life (this does not always weork, however.)

I believe the earlier translations of Jesus' name were Yeshua or Joshua. No one seems to worry about how many Joshes there are in the world, so I don't worry about how many Jesuses there are (Pronounced Hay-SUS in Hispanic nations).

In some countries, such as France, at least until very recently, you COULD NOT name your child ANY name that was not contained in the Bible -- so why should this be a matter of surprise?
Iztatepopotla
29-03-2005, 16:24
Oksana: or anyone else
I know Spanish often have both male and female names, like Jesus Maria or Maria Jesus (the first name tells the gender) but is it common in all hispanic countries or only in Spain?
All. Maybe not as common nowadays, but still used.
Slinao
29-03-2005, 16:45
Yeshua was a name commonly used in the era of Christ's birth. Its only modern churchs that make the earthly name into the divine name. He was the Messiah, which means Annointed One. He had a task to fulfill and he did so.

The other names that were to be given him were more concepts of what he was to be. Immanuel, meaning "G-d with us" shows that he would bring a more personal concept of G-d to the masses. They weren't names to be given to him, but concepts to be carried by him.

Also, if he had been accepted by the Jewish population, they would have most likely changed his name, to mean something more like Immanuel and such, since its a hebrew/jewish belief that a name means something. After all, its from the hebrews that we get numorology. as well as most concepts of demonology and the use of pentagrams and magen davids in relation to the angels and calling upon them.
The Lagonia States
29-03-2005, 17:13
Ask Levon.

Anyway, 'Jesus' simply means 'the savior.' My name is Salvatore, which also means 'The Savior'