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World War II Aircraft!

Potaria
29-03-2005, 01:58
This thread was a long time in coming (I was going to do it over a month ago, but... You know). Well, it's here at last! Post about your favorite WWII Aircraft. They can be fights, transport craft, bombers, or even recon craft.

My favorite: The Bf 109.

http://www.museumofflight.org/collections/images/aircraft/messerschmittbf109_2_lrg.jpg

Bf 109E – single seat fighter
First flight – September 1935
Total production – over 35,000
Powerplant – One 1,200 hp. Daimler-Benz DB 601N iquid-cooled inverted V-12 cylinder piston engine
Climb rate – 3,300 feet per minute
Armament – one hub-firing 20mm cannon and four 7.9mm machine guns, two located in the wings and two on the top of the engine cowling.

Wingspan – 32 ft., 4.5 in. (9.86 m)
Length – 28 ft., 8 in. (8.74 m)
Height – 11 ft., 2 in. (3.4 m)
Wing area – 174 sq. ft. (16.16 m2)
Weight – 4,440 lb. empty
Maximum takeoff weight – 6,100 lb.
Maximum speed – 358 mph
Ceiling – 36,500 ft.
Range – 680 miles

This is my favorite ride in Aces High 2 (a game I play frequently) and Il-2: Forgotten Battles (though the modelling on AH is far better, but let's not get into that). It's got great acceleration, an extremely high power-to-weight ratio, excellent mobility (though not quite on par with the Spitfire), and heavy firepower (especially in the later variants). It's a joy to fly, being very stable and forgiving, even moreso than the Fw 190's. If used correctly, it's the bane of any enemy fighter.
Jamil
29-03-2005, 02:01
I don't know anything about this but my brother insisted that I say Fiat CR 42.
31
29-03-2005, 02:01
P-40 Warhawk
Potaria
29-03-2005, 02:03
It was alright. Not a very advanced aircraft for its time (1938), but it was still quite good for the way it was made.

The Italian Macchi c.205 was far better than the Falco.
31
29-03-2005, 02:09
I love the FW-190, the Hellcat and the Corsair. The upward curving wings are just nice looking.
HannibalBarca
29-03-2005, 02:16
P-51. I had an uncle that flew one in the war.

For some reason I like the Thunderbolt too.....
Andaluciae
29-03-2005, 02:21
P-51 was one hell of a plane. But the B-29 was revolutionary in an amazing way. The P-38 was also a radical new design, but it wasn't revolutionary, as in it didn't permanently change the aircraft industry.
31
29-03-2005, 02:25
P-51? I say "yawn" and "yawn again". Everybody and their mother's uncle likes the P-51. Yeah yeah yeah, it was fast and a winner but it is soo boring and popular. Also, shiny metal planes fill me with irrational hatred. If they would have painted it a nice blue or flat green or cammo then I would have been more inclined to like it.

A-26 was a nice bird, was it shiny and metallic usually?
Jordaxia
29-03-2005, 02:26
I have two favourites. The Westland Lysander:

http://www.rlm.at/galerie/08/lysander_1656.jpg

And the Gloster Meteor.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nick.challoner/aviation/pix/99-44.jpg
Cybernetic Ninjas
29-03-2005, 02:35
Stuka dive bomber?!

http://www.2worldwar2.com/stuka.htm
Cosmo Kramerica
29-03-2005, 02:35
My favorite is the YAK-9U

It could stand up well against MEs, Bfs, Zeros and N1Ks (pretty much all the axis fighters)
Though its not as maneuverable as the spit.. the spit is better, but i love the YAK

http://www.omsk.edu.ru/schools/sch064/samolet/yak9/yak_9u.jpg
Muntlecunt
29-03-2005, 02:37
my favorite is the NIG-90210
Caelta
29-03-2005, 02:46
http://www.interet-general.info/IMG/me-109-4.jpg

bf-109
Technottoma
29-03-2005, 02:48
The Spitfire. I don't know the numbers, but I do know that it had the most impressive firepower on "Secret Weapons Over Normandy" of all the propeller driven aircraft. Fairly good speed too.
But my alltime favorite would have to be that German "Jet" plain that revolutionized the aircraft industry.
North Island
29-03-2005, 02:51
Messerschmitt Bf 109G
Spitfire
Hawker Hurricane Mk. IIA
P-51 Mustang

Those planes I like the most.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 03:15
My favorite is the YAK-9U

It could stand up well against MEs, Bfs, Zeros and N1Ks (pretty much all the axis fighters)
Though its not as maneuverable as the spit.. the spit is better, but i love the YAK

http://www.omsk.edu.ru/schools/sch064/samolet/yak9/yak_9u.jpg

I love the Yaks! The Yak-3 was the best dogfighter of the bunch, while the Uak-9U was the most well-rounded. There's also the Yak-9T, which had a high-explosive 37mm cannon in the nose. Needless to say, it was extremely deadly.
B0zzy
29-03-2005, 03:30
The corvair was a gorgeous and graceful flying piece of deadly whoopass.

The P-38 never got it's chance to shine.

The P-51 was the first aircraft that was capable of nearing sonic speeds. WITH just a propellor! (Which, with some irony, was the only thing holding it back) The Superfortress was also impressive. A frigin flying gun platform.
Nimzonia
29-03-2005, 03:36
The Hawker Hurricane, definately.

It was basically a flying tent with guns on, but it mauled the Luftwaffe, and in the hands of inexperienced pilots, too. Maneouverable, easy to fly, difficult to destroy, and easy to repair. Plus, it also became an effective tank killer later in the war.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 03:40
The Hawker Hurricane, definately.

It was basically a flying tent with guns on, but it mauled the Luftwaffe, and in the hands of inexperienced pilots, too. Maneouverable, easy to fly, difficult to destroy, and easy to repair. Plus, it also became an effective tank killer later in the war.

You read my mind! I really enjoy flying the Hurricane Mk. IIC, which is fitted with four 20mm Hispano cannons. It's a slow plane, yes, but it is extremely reliable and surprisingly resistant to gunfire.
Andaluciae
29-03-2005, 03:40
I also should include the Spitfire and the Corsair, both excellent planes as well.

And some of the experimental German jet fighters designed just before the end of the war are really amazing as well.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 03:43
I also should include the Spitfire and the Corsair, both excellent planes as well.

And some of the experimental German jet fighters designed just before the end of the war are really amazing as well.

The F4U-4 Corsair was actually superior to the P-51D Mustang in every respect, except for energy retention (how well it holds its speed in turns and quick climbs) and range.
Kanabia
29-03-2005, 04:26
The CAC Boomerang (Australian)

http://www.raafmuseum.com.au/raaf2/assets/images/boom.gif

Dewoitine D.520 (French)

http://moinier.club.fr/armeeair/avions/d520.jpg

Shinden (Japanese)

http://www.rcgrabbag.com/skypirates/topgun/topgun2000/images/shinden.jpg

http://www.geocities.jp/emx008/images/cg/shinden-2.jpg
Nimzonia
29-03-2005, 05:01
Shinden (Japanese)
http://www.geocities.jp/emx008/images/cg/shinden-2.jpg

Cool. Anyone seen Wings of Honneamise (Royal Space Force)? Now I know what the inspiration for these was:

http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/fricasso/woh_17.jpg

:D
The Internet Tough Guy
29-03-2005, 05:04
I have always liked the Corsair the most, but the P-51D was the best fighter of the war.
Kanabia
29-03-2005, 05:05
Cool. Anyone seen Wings of Honneamise (Royal Space Force)? Now I know what the inspiration for these was:

Most likely :) The PC/Xbox game Crimson Skies uses similar designs too.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 05:08
I have always liked the Corsair the most, but the P-51D was the best fighter of the war.

Well, they give it that credit because it was the most widely-known. The F4U-4 Corsair was actually superior. Look it up.
Kanabia
29-03-2005, 05:12
I have always liked the Corsair the most, but the P-51D was the best fighter of the war.

The CAC Boomerang had greater range (1600 miles), comparable maneuverability (due to being about a third lighter) and far greater firepower (4 .303 machineguns and 2 20mm cannons).

The flaw being that it was fairly slow, but it utilised an old engine. Later prototypes with better engines could almost match the P.51 in speed.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 06:16
The CAC Boomerang had greater range (1600 miles), comparable maneuverability (due to being about a third lighter) and far greater firepower (4 .303 machineguns and 2 20mm cannons).

The flaw being that it was fairly slow, but it utilised an old engine. Later prototypes with better engines could almost match the P.51 in speed.

I've heard some really good things about the Boomerang. Sadly, they haven't modeled it in Aces High 2...
Drygion
29-03-2005, 06:20
For some reason, I particularly like the P-38.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 06:23
For some reason, I particularly like the P-38.

You should like it with good reason. It was the most stable propeller-driven aircraft in the world at the time, it could climb very fast, was extremely reliable, and had all of its guns in the nose, so it was very deadly and easy to use.
Voltarre
29-03-2005, 06:23
Single-Engine Fighter: P-51
Two-Engine Fighter: P-38
Light Bomber: B-26
Heavy Bomber: B-29
Exotic: Me-162 Rocket
Harlesburg
29-03-2005, 06:41
My favorite: The Bf 109.

Yeah the flammingKnife!!!
I think thats what its called!

The Bf 109
P-51D
Spitfire prior to the Mk10
Hurricane
P-40
Most under-rated Focker Wulf(German Hurricane)
MArichetti(SP) The flying weakness[/Sarcasam]
Potaria
29-03-2005, 06:43
Every American pilot who flew captured Italian aircraft loved them to death. They said what a joy it was to fly them, especially the Macchi c.202's and c.205's.
Carlinator
29-03-2005, 06:50
Just because nobody has mentioned it, I've got to go with the Blohm and Voss BV-141, aka the most asymmetrical aircraft ever flown.

Yes, it did indeed manage to get off the ground, and actually maneuvered very well. It was intended as a light bomber/reconnaisance aircraft, but the
German politicians :sniper: were so turned off by the wierd design that they decided to replace it with the Fw-189.

Pics (http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugzeuge/blohm-voss/bv141.htm)
Specs (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/bv141.html)
Potaria
29-03-2005, 06:53
Just because nobody has mentioned it, I've got to go with the Blohm and Voss BV-141, aka the most asymmetrical aircraft ever flown.

Yes, it did indeed manage to get off the ground, and actually maneuvered very well. It was intended as a light bomber/reconnaisance aircraft, but the
German politicians :sniper: were so turned off by the wierd design that they decided to replace it with the Fw-189.

Pics (http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugzeuge/blohm-voss/bv141.htm)
Specs (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/bv141.html)

Such an odd aircraft... It might have worked, but there were much better designs.
Spookistan and Jakalah
29-03-2005, 07:01
Exotic: Me-162 Rocket

Wasn't that the 163?

I don't know much about this subject, but I like the Komet, and also the Short Sunderland.
Soviet Narco State
29-03-2005, 07:02
I'll also say the Me-163. Who wants to fly a plane when you can fly a rocket? Live fast die young, leave a nice looking corpse.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16a.htm

Check out the 30 mm Cannons!
Potaria
29-03-2005, 07:03
Bah, Soviet Narco State beat me to it!
Spookistan and Jakalah
29-03-2005, 07:11
I'll also say the Me-163. Who wants to fly a plane when you can fly a rocket? Live fast die young, leave a nice looking corpse.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16a.htm

Check out the 30 mm Cannons!

As I understand it, the people who died landing those things probably did not leave particularly good looking corpses...
Soviet Narco State
29-03-2005, 07:13
Bah, Soviet Narco State beat me to it!
You can have the Komet, the plane I really love is the Swordfish topedo bomber, one torpedo from a freakin biplane crippled the most powerful ship in the world ha ha take that filthy nazis.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 07:24
I actually don't really like the 163. I want an aircraft that you can actually manuever!
Tiralon
29-03-2005, 10:06
Supermarine Spitfire Mk-1
Motor: Rolls-Royce Merlin-III, 1030 Pk
Armament: 8 .303-inch Browning MG
Max Speed: 650 km/h at 6000 m
Climbspeed: 760 m/min
Maximum Height: 10650 m
Radius: 1035 km
Weight: 2800 kg
length: 8.97 m
width: 8.97

Probably the most significant airplane that served throughout the entire war. It wasn't the best allround fighter of the war (although many will disagree this place is for the P-51) yet it was the best defensive fighter for the entire war. It is too bad that Mitchell never saw it in action: it was a plane to be proud of.
Chellis
29-03-2005, 10:17
P-38. Dollar to pound, it carried more bombs than a B-29, could fight well, flew fast, could do recon, torpedo(though wasnt used for it), and pretty much anything else you would expect the most versatile ww2 plane to do.
Potaria
29-03-2005, 10:23
Supermarine Spitfire Mk-1
Motor: Rolls-Royce Merlin-III, 1030 Pk
Armament: 8 .303-inch Browning MG
Max Speed: 650 km/h at 6000 m
Climbspeed: 760 m/min
Maximum Height: 10650 m
Radius: 1035 km
Weight: 2800 kg
length: 8.97 m
width: 8.97

Probably the most significant airplane that served throughout the entire war. It wasn't the best allround fighter of the war (although many will disagree this place is for the P-51) yet it was the best defensive fighter for the entire war. It is too bad that Mitchell never saw it in action: it was a plane to be proud of.

The Spitfire Mk. I was one hell of a fighter, but for sheer precision, I'd go for the Spitfire LF Mk. IX. It had speed, firepower, and extremely good maneuverability.
Kellarly
29-03-2005, 10:55
P-38. Dollar to pound, it carried more bombs than a B-29, could fight well, flew fast, could do recon, torpedo(though wasnt used for it), and pretty much anything else you would expect the most versatile ww2 plane to do.

I hold the De Haviland Mosquito up there too. It could carry a slightly heavier payload, esp on the Mark XI. Not quite as fast but definitely fast enough, and a little more manouverable to according to some.

good link (http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~wingman/)
The State of It
29-03-2005, 11:49
Spitfire (Just out of interest, the local town near me has the story of a German Dornier that bombed a part of it, and was then pursued by two Spitfires down this long straight road that's still there today, and is lined by trees on either side. You can imagine the planes flying at low altitude above and down this road. The spitfires shot the Dornier down in a field)

Typhoon (A variant of Spitfire that fired Tank busting rockets)

Hurricane.

Lancaster (I can't believe no one has mentioned this Titan yet.)

Mosquito

ME-109

ME-262

Mitsubushi Zero (I love the look of that plane, white with a red dot.)

Corsair

P-51
Boonytopia
29-03-2005, 14:01
I like the Hurricane. It was pretty much out of date by the start of the war, but was the backbone of the RAF during the Battle of Britain and was progressively modified & up-gunned throughout the war to remain an effective tank killer/ground attack aircraft.

That said, the Spit was simply outstanding.
L-rouge
29-03-2005, 14:30
Spitfire Mk I-IX

Hurricane in all guises, fighter, tank-destroyer, come on people!

Messerschmitt ME 262, sadly (or is that luckily?)ruined by Hitler wanting to use it as a bomber!

Lancaster, dambusters anyone?!

Messerschmitt Bf109, damn good aircraft that gave the Brits a run for their money during the BoB and still performed well until the end of the war.

Gloster Meteor, not really as maneouverable as the 262, but more reliable.

Gloster Gladiator, last RAF by-plane and continued to serve for the Fleet Air Arm until 1945!http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/gladiator/gladiator_en.htm
Sevaris
29-03-2005, 14:40
I say Hurricane and the Il-2 Sturmovik.
Mt-Tau
29-03-2005, 15:13
My old favorite......

Supermarine spitfire MK IX

Manuverable, durable, and enough firepower to blow almost anything out of the sky.
Haken Rider
29-03-2005, 15:54
A blimp.
Whispering Legs
29-03-2005, 17:50
P-38 Lightning
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap3.jpg
Harlesburg
30-03-2005, 12:06
Every American pilot who flew captured Italian aircraft loved them to death. They said what a joy it was to fly them, especially the Macchi c.202's and c.205's.
Eh sure Ever heard the saying "One a Day in Tampa Bay"? :p

A large proportion of Italian Transport planes were used to transport Whores for the Officers! so they needed to be a nice ride! :eek:

The Germans wouldnt get caught dead in them!

Another fav of mine is the Brewster Buffalo!-Awesome Plane!