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Is there a God?

The Republican Rulers
29-03-2005, 00:25
The idea of religion varies, some believe in a higher being, others dont. God, a sub conscience idea that is there to justify, or real? a higher being looking over billions?
Potaria
29-03-2005, 00:28
I'm very certain that there isn't one. I also believe that organized religion was created to control people against their will.
Bottle
29-03-2005, 00:28
The idea of religion varies, some believe in a higher being, others dont. God, a sub conscience idea that is there to justify, or real? a higher being looking over billions?
define God before you ask people to evaluate God.
Kamsaki
29-03-2005, 00:30
*Le sigh*

Yet another one of these. You're not gonna get a straight answer either way on this one, because neither side can prove convincingly that there is or isn't. Stay agnostic in the meantime; you can decide later once you've journeyed a bit through life and come to your own conclusions. But keep your mind open to both sides of the argument throughout; whatever answer you reach is worthless without appropriate experience and understanding in both what you eventually believe in and what you finally reject.
The South Islands
29-03-2005, 00:30
Hasn't this type of Religion thread been done to death?
Drunk commies reborn
29-03-2005, 00:31
I don't beleive there is a god, but if there was one god, it would not have a sex. It wouldn't need sex organs because it would have no other gods to screw. If there were multiple gods, then I would expect a mix of males and females, unless they were hermaphrodites, like slugs, or reproduced asexually, like amoebas.
The Republican Rulers
29-03-2005, 00:31
no clue...just did it cause i felt it
MATHsex
29-03-2005, 00:45
there is no god because a loving god would kill those girls who are screaming and being loud cunts right outside my door :headbang:
The Republican Rulers
29-03-2005, 00:48
there is no god because a loving god would kill those girls who are screaming and being loud cunts right outside my door :headbang:
Nows who's fault is that??
Kervoskia
29-03-2005, 00:49
I'm very certain that there isn't one. I also believe that organized religion was created to control people against their will.
My thoughts exactly
*implodes*
I rest my case.
Jibea
29-03-2005, 00:57
I'm very certain that there isn't one. I also believe that organized religion was created to control people against their will.

Ah but religion came before the society as seen with neanderthals. Dont worry i feel the same way about ufos and democracy both of which dont exist ;) . Besides both aliens and a diety would have to be proven/disproven through cryptozoology as we all know democracy is science fiction

God is a genderless being and as an english speaking society we refer to him as a boy.
Passive Cookies
29-03-2005, 01:02
If Kevin Smith taught me anything, its that Alanis Morrisette is god.
Whoa the colors
29-03-2005, 01:04
I believe god is a women cuz only a women could create such a messed up world
Zouloukistan
29-03-2005, 01:26
There aren't any Gods here. It is just an invetion made by lunatics to make money (ok, but some people really think there is/are God/Gods).
Willamena
29-03-2005, 01:36
I pick "Other", even though it isn't an option.
Kervoskia
29-03-2005, 01:48
I say if there is a god, this being is omnisexual.
Jamil
29-03-2005, 01:48
Is there a God?

Yes.

Is God a he or a she?

None of the above. God does not have a sex. He is referred to as a He basically because men were thought of as superior.
St Heliers
29-03-2005, 01:55
Isn't it a bit of a stupid poll? surely if there is a god he/she/it wouldn't have a gender?
Rytoc
29-03-2005, 01:57
I am Buddhist, We dont believe in a god. We believe in the power of humans.
Jamil
29-03-2005, 01:58
I am Buddhist, We dont believe in a god. We believe in the power of humans.
How did humans get this power?
Neo-Anarchists
29-03-2005, 01:58
There may or may not be a God, I am in no position to say either way.
Jesus-fanatic
29-03-2005, 01:59
Why does God need a gender? He doesn't have to have sex to create. I think "He" is used as a neutral-gender indefinate pronoun. As humans, we always have to learn things in terms of the natural because we're Earthly vessels. The idea of a being that has no gender is odd, that's why we call "Him" a "He" so your entire poll is just ridiculous.
New British Glory
29-03-2005, 01:59
I believe there is a God and a Devil but not in the sense of a phyiscal concept. I believe that the God and the Devil esxist within each and everyone one of us and that is the metaphorical message that the Bible is trying to get across to us. Rather than seeking physical manifestions, we should be looking inside ourselves to see the answer. The Devil is all the evil that lies within the human soul, the capacity for corruption and temptation. God is all the goodness within us, the ability to forgive, to be strong during times of hardship and to put others before ourselves. God and the Devil aren't physically real but they are there nevertheless as emotions, as contorting clouds within each of us, battling for supremacy. The entire Bible is a metaphor and as a metaphor we must interpret it to find our own personal meanings. Thats what atheists lose out on.
Keruvalia
29-03-2005, 02:08
There is a God.

Allah is neither male nor female, but is simply Allah. Anyone using he or she to refer to Allah is belittling Allah. Allah should only ever be referred to as Allah. A basic understanding of Torah and/or Qur'an clearly explains this.
Letila
29-03-2005, 02:22
I don't really see a reason to believe in a literal god, but New British Glory's perspective is an interesting one. Perhaps God is more of a symbol for the power of good and creation.
Kervoskia
29-03-2005, 02:28
There is a God.

Allah is neither male nor female, but is simply Allah. Anyone using he or she to refer to Allah is belittling Allah. Allah should only ever be referred to as Allah. A basic understanding of Torah and/or Qur'an clearly explains this.
If god is omipotent, omniscient, why isn't god omnisexual?
Great Beer and Food
29-03-2005, 03:00
I asked god for a box of those lovely strawberry cheesecake Godiva chocolates..

Still waiting.......

:(
Vetalia
29-03-2005, 03:11
If god is omipotent, omniscient, why isn't god omnisexual?

He is, technically. Because God (existence permitting) exists outside of the physical world and is the sum of all creation, he is neither male nor female, since he is both. He is personified as a male primarily due to the patriarchal society that Judaism developed in.
Shlarg
29-03-2005, 03:15
No evidence to support the existence of the supernatural.
Vetalia
29-03-2005, 03:17
No evidence to support the existence of the supernatural.

That is why I'm agonstic. No proof, no belief, although I don't discredit the possibility.
Vegas-Rex
29-03-2005, 03:23
There is a God.

Allah is neither male nor female, but is simply Allah. Anyone using he or she to refer to Allah is belittling Allah. Allah should only ever be referred to as Allah. A basic understanding of Torah and/or Qur'an clearly explains this.

Al-Lah was clearly male just as Al-Lat was clearly female. Ever heard of the Satanic Verses?
Vegas-Rex
29-03-2005, 03:26
If god is omipotent, omniscient, why isn't god omnisexual?

Cause you can't get a man pregnant. All of the arguments about how God doesn't need to have sex and thus doesn't need a gender fall flat if the God is a Christian one, because in that case he has reproduced.

Just for the record, I'm a fundamentalist Atheist, but I find the concept of God fun to play with.
Kervoskia
29-03-2005, 03:28
Cause you can't get a man pregnant. All of the arguments about how God doesn't need to have sex and thus doesn't need a gender fall flat if the God is a Christian one, because in that case he has reproduced.

Just for the record, I'm a fundamentalist Atheist, but I find the concept of God fun to play with.
Well, it is rather fun to play with.
Vetalia
29-03-2005, 03:28
because in that case he has reproduced.

God didn't physically have sex I imagine. He could have simply created a fertilized embryo and so would not need to be male.
Hot Love in Mexico
29-03-2005, 03:33
I'm thinking God is a Jewish Black Woman, becuase throughout history, what races/religions/sexes are the ones to get fucked over the most?
Vetalia
29-03-2005, 03:36
I'm thinking God is a Jewish Black Woman, becuase throughout history, what races/religions/sexes are the ones to get fucked over the most?

:D

Reminds me of the reaction to the Jews during the Black Plague:
"The Jews have sanitation, clean water and wash temselves regularly. Thus, the plague must be their fault through their alliance with the devil and witches"
The Plutonian Empire
29-03-2005, 03:58
I voted just because I wanted to see the results :D
Keruvalia
29-03-2005, 04:19
Al-Lah was clearly male just as Al-Lat was clearly female. Ever heard of the Satanic Verses?

Ermmm ... yes I have and I've also seen Rushdie's recant. It's not "Al-Lah", it's Allah. Not two words, not a compound word, but a single name. Allah is not the Arabic word for God, ilah is. Completely different.

You may be Vegas-Rex, but that doesn't mean I am Keru-Valia.
Bogstonia
29-03-2005, 05:11
Why do people come onto internet forums to ask these profound questions in their lives? Like we'd know!
As though people on the internet have found some proof as the the existence/nonexistence of God that nobody else has been able to find over the thousands of years of searching.
My advice, don't listen to us :)
Stroudiztan
29-03-2005, 05:13
There is no god and she is a guy.
Halbarania
29-03-2005, 08:10
This been posted?:D
Pascal's Wager (also known as Pascal's Gambit) is Blaise Pascal's application of decision theory to the belief in God. It is one of three 'wagers' which appear in his Pensées, a collection of notes for an unfinished treatise on Christian apologetics. Pascal argues that it is always a better "bet" to believe in God, because the expected value to be gained from believing in God is always greater than the expected value resulting from non-belief. Note that this is not an argument for the existence of God, but rather one for the belief in God. Pascal specifically aimed the argument at such persons who were not convinced by traditional arguments for the existence of God. With his wager he sought to demonstrate that believing in God is advantageous to not believing, and hoped that this would convert those who rejected previous theological arguments.

Variations of this argument can be found in other religious philosophies, such as Hinduism.
Zarregale
29-03-2005, 08:20
I am neither male nor female, and regardless of what people keep saying, I am NOT Omnipresent or infallible. And stop calling me.
Greater Yubari
29-03-2005, 08:25
GOA'ULD

One of our galaxy's dominant species, the Goa'uld are serpent parasites that forcibly take human hosts, and possess a thirst for power and worship. They have enslaved countless worlds, using their inhabitants as hosts, soldiers, miners, and personal slaves.

Biology and Development
The symbiotic creatures are birthed from asexual mothers, Goa'uld queens. In the process every newborn symbiote inherits the genetic memory of the one before it. It is some time after their creation before the Goa'uld are capable of being anything more than helpless, squealing snakes. They must be fed a steady electrical current in an aquatic container placed where the people who serve the species are able to come and worship. Immature symbiotes are also incubated in pouches created in the abdomens of Jaffa, slave warriors in the service of the Goa'uld. It takes several years for a symbiote to reach full maturity and be ready to take a host.

Physiologically, the Goa'uld differ somewhat from symbiote to symbiote. Younger Goa'uld tend to be far whiter with twin black eyes. The older and more mature, the more gray or green the serpents tend to be. The majority of the species has four bright red eyes and swimmerets to suit them in an aquatic environment.

More mature symbiotes are capable of jumping significant distances, despite their form. Utilizing their powerful, four-pronged jaws, they burrow through the back of the neck (or through the soft tissue at the back of the mouth), wrapping themselves around the victim's upper spinal column and into the brain. Instantaneously the Goa'uld has control of the physical body, suppressing the original individual's consciousness.

Goa'uld symbiotes have incredible regenerative abilities, and, with the aid of sarcophagi, they are capable of living hundreds of thousands of years in the body of a human host. Once a Goa'uld is old enough to begin utilizing its healing abilities, it is implanted within the incubating pouch of a Jaffa in a ceremony known as the prim'tah. (During the period the Goa'uld is within a Jaffa, the term "prim'tah" can also refer to the infant symbiote itself.) The Goa'uld and its Jaffa are unable to communicate by conventional means, unless the Jaffa is in a deep state of kelnorim meditation. On this level of the subconscious, the Goa'uld receives vital information necessary to repair most illnesses.

History

The origins of the Goa'uld lie on the planet designated P3X-888. Long ago the Goa'uld learned how to infest and possess the Unas, another species native to that world, and learned to operate the Stargate on their planet and leave.
For an untold number of years the species was supposedly a dying race, unable to find hosts for their serpent form to exist within -- until a few thousand years ago, when the Supreme System Lord Ra, in a desperate pilgrimage through space to uncover his species' salvation, stumbled upon a planet of primitive humans: Earth. Ra harvested among the primitives and took the body of a young boy, seeding the rest upon different worlds in the galaxy as slave laborers.

The Goa'uld created Jaffa to serve them, whom the Goa'uld queens transformed from normal humans. The Jaffa became incubators for the larvae form as well as serving as the army for their entire populations -- greatly increasing the symbiote's chances of surviving and successfully taking over a human host. It is even possible that the Goa'uld occupied Earth in ancient times, posing as the gods and goddesses of various civilizations.

Culture The Goa'uld society is feudal in nature. Their hierarchy is governed by the System Lords, a few dozen of the most powerful Goa'uld who are usually warring with one another for worlds and resources. Despite their cruelty, there are several rules that most strictly follow. For instance, it is forbidden for two Goa'uld, within their host bodies, to sexually reproduce a child. The human child, called a "Harcesis," possesses the Goa'uld genetic memory and is thus a great security risk to the Goa'uld.

The Goa'uld are opposed by the Tok'ra, a rebel subset of the species who, by nature of personal choice, differ from them on a philosophical level. The Tok'ra choose to co-exist with willing hosts, rather than take them by force. In recent years the Tok'ra have become increasingly problematic for the System Lords, whose desire to eliminate them is more desperate than ever before. The term "Goa'uld" is loosely used in that it is often mistaken as the primary definition of a symbiote; but the Tok'ra, who possess genetically identical creatures within, refuse to be known by the term "Goa'uld," believing it should only be used to define any symbiote demanding power and worship for themselves.

Without the Jaffa the Goa'uld are nothing more than parasites. To remain in control of the planets they have conquered, the Goa'uld pose as various gods from Earth mythology, so that the masses (people whose ancestors were transplanted from Earth thousands of years ago) will follow and obey. Recently the Goa'uld have begun to show zero population growth, as the System Lords have been literally devouring symbiotes. Their desire for power and dominance, even over their Goa'uld brethren, is stronger than ever.

Here's your god! A snake that takes over humanoids!
Kellarly
29-03-2005, 08:38
This been posted?:D

Well as it is quoted from wikipeadia...read down the page for the criticisms ;)
Boonytopia
29-03-2005, 12:45
I believe there is no god (or higher being), it's what seems to make sense to me.
Einsteinian Big-Heads
29-03-2005, 13:31
I think the only thing in this thread more rediculous than the poll question is the fact that people have voted on it. :rolleyes:
Niini
29-03-2005, 13:35
I don't beleive in god (of any sort). But I aswered woman, 'cause why not.
Wheter the original idea of god was man or woman our male dominated world
would have changed to man anyway so I think god as a woman...
Dogburg
29-03-2005, 14:26
It's my 666th post on NS, and I'm going to blaspheme by saying that there is no god. Hail the beast!*

*I'm kidding. There is no beast either.

Of course, people should be allowed to believe what they want about god, but I don't honestly think there is one, at least in the sense described by any religion which I have ever come across.
Personal responsibilit
29-03-2005, 14:55
Has attributes of both, but identifies Himself as male in history.
Dorksonia
29-03-2005, 14:59
God does not take a human form.