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With Michael Jackson being in the news lately, and seeing he obviously has fans who dont think he molested a child, what does the rest of the US say??

With Michael Jackson being in the news lately, and seeing he obviously has fans who dont think he molested a child, what does the rest of the US say??


I think he is an absolute freak. I am more concerned about people who intentionally leave their children with him.

I say that he didn't, and that he just really likes kids...

Id have to agree with you, he most definitely is sick in the head, do you recall the time he showed his baby off, dangling the child over a balcony?...nut job

I say he's a molester and a weird child licker. I'm pretty sure he molests kids. If I was in his position and I knew I was innocent I would have fought in court to clear my name when the first accusations came out, not settled out of court. His actions aren't those of an innocent man.

Then again, I would never be in his position because I wouldn't have slumber parties with prepubescent boys.

I say that he didn't, and that he just really likes kids...

yea likes kids way too much, in a way that should never be thought of from an adult to a child its wrong

He did do something wrong. But freak with capital F

just look, "neverland ranch"...and all his amusements, it is all a ploy to get children in bed and look at em

I think he didn't do it. Though it sucks for him to have money (or maybe not, considering that he had a series of flops in recent years). People always try ot sue the rich out of their money. And the public interest this "trial theatre" creates is shaming for the US judical system.

No he didn't do it. He's just another black man being abused by the system- just like Nelson Mandela and Muhammad Ali.

I'm kidding. Nobody kill me. But Jackson actually did say that.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1111963808830

you cant deny his weird child liking...all the sleep overs and the ranch it's creepy

He had odd nicknames for the kids too- "rubba", "doo-doo head" and "blowhole". Just this simple fact is impossibly disturbing. Still-more disturbing is an adult that would uset their kid as bait to try to win a fortune in or out of court.

No he didn't do it. He's just another black man being abused by the system- just like Nelson Mandela and Muhammad Ali.

I'm kidding. Nobody kill me. But Jackson actually did say that.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1111963808830

I hope you are kidding, his skin change wasnt "medical" it was purposeful

I say he's a molester and a weird child licker. I'm pretty sure he molests kids. If I was in his position and I knew I was innocent I would have fought in court to clear my name when the first accusations came out, not settled out of court. His actions aren't those of an innocent man.

Then again, I would never be in his position because I wouldn't have slumber parties with prepubescent boys.

lets not forget his actions were not those of a sane man either...

I hope you are kidding, his skin change wasnt "medical" it was purposeful

Check the link out, man.

i'm suprised this quote hasnt been posted yet:

only in america can a talented black boy grow up to be a disturbed white woman

No he didn't do it. He's just another black man being abused by the system- just like Nelson Mandela and Muhammad Ali.

I'm kidding. Nobody kill me. But Jackson actually did say that.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1111963808830


I dont think he can be classified as a black man anymore. He is trapped somewhere between a white woman and a missing link.

lets make junk up about celeb's...but jackson did it...he's crazy, what sane person would jump on his car and start dancing after court??

The link didnt work

lets make junk up about celeb's...but jackson did it...he's crazy, what sane person would jump on his car and start dancing after court??

The link didnt work

It's the Toronto Star, not an American tabloid. Canada's most liberal newspaper, but at least a respected national media source. I don't know why the link isn't working for you. It seems to be working good for me when I click it.

and how much plastic surgery does one need?? jeeze his entire face is fake...u could prolly melt his face off and all you'd get would be bone

lets make junk up about celeb's...but jackson did it...he's crazy, what sane person would jump on his car and start dancing after court??

The link didnt work


and how often has he been late to court? And he actually wore pajamas to court the one time. He has goons to follow him everywhere to shade him with an umbrella, a motrcade and entourage, but no change of clothes? I think that was a big "F--- You" on his part to the judge.

It's an associated press story. Jackson should go to prison. It would be a somewhat life-altering experience.

jackson is in disregard for all common curteousy...i dont think any person besides him(or her) would do something that dumb...i also believe celeb's shouldn't be above the law...their name buys them stuff and that shouldn't happen

It's an associated press story. Jackson should go to prison. It would be a somewhat life-altering experience.
A life altering experience as in getting a taste of his own medicine?? a nice sexual encounter with a man named "Bubba"??

Whether or not the deed was done he shouldn't have young children alone in potential molestatation situations. Especially since he has a history(come on if you get accused once you shouldn't get anywhere near the cookie jar again lest you be reaccused). My biggest concern is that these parents actually LET their children be in that situation. They should get charged with neglect or endangerment. Tards.

thats pretty much what everyone thinks...besides those who think he's innocent for some reason?? why is that

MJ is a freak who thinks he's the second coming of Peter Pan. His nose was sculpted to reflect that. (along with other features of his face) He want's to be the boy who never grew up. It is a sad state.

I cannot made a call as to if he did it or not. His accuser and their witnesses are dubious at best. I would err on the side of caution were it a close call, but the evidence is not all in. Better a guilty man goes free than an innocent one gets jailed. There is no law against just being weird. Yet.

Yes, the parents deserve a good whoopin for bringing their children into that environment. I mean, really.

Jackson did it, and it isn't really all that big of a deal to me.

He is innocent until proven guilty. Please don't forget that. The jury must prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it, and so far, I don't think that will happen. The boy and his family have been shown to not be very credible, as have many of the prosecution’s ‘witnesses’. Whether the alleged abuse actually happened or not, I don't think there is enough evidence for a jury to lock Michael Jackson up.

Either way, only he and the kid know what really happened. I personally believe that Michael Jackson is a nutjob, but I don't know whether he'd actually hurt a child... he thinks of himself as a child, and that's the problem.

Wow. This is sad. I can't believe so many people think he's innocent. He's going to get his ass ringed. He'll end up getting psychological help, something like that. I don't really has what it's got to get away with murder whic is kind of sad since he has money. Nobody has even heard of his lawyer. He should have gotten Johnny Cochran. Of course, he did it. 27 fingerprints on an adult magazine? Yes, we all no he is sharing his playboy or playgirl with Muhhamad Ali and Nelson Mandela. This man needs help and so do the parents and kids otherwise those children are going to be fucked up.

He is innocent until proven guilty. Please don't forget that. The jury must prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it, and so far, I don't think that will happen. The boy and his family have been shown to not be very credible, as have many of the prosecution’s ‘witnesses’. Whether the alleged abuse actually happened or not, I don't think there is enough evidence for a jury to lock Michael Jackson up.

Either way, only he and the kid know what really happened. I personally believe that Michael Jackson is a nutjob, but I don't know whether he'd actually hurt a child... he thinks of himself as a child, and that's the problem.

It may be the problem but it needs to be addressed. He wouldn't hurt a child? You must have not seen him hang his kid over a balcony.

He is innocent until proven guilty. Please don't forget that. The jury must prove beyond reasonable doubt that he did it, and so far, I don't think that will happen. The boy and his family have been shown to not be very credible, as have many of the prosecution’s ‘witnesses’. Whether the alleged abuse actually happened or not, I don't think there is enough evidence for a jury to lock Michael Jackson up.

Either way, only he and the kid know what really happened. I personally believe that Michael Jackson is a nutjob, but I don't know whether he'd actually hurt a child... he thinks of himself as a child, and that's the problem.
I'm not on the jury, so I'll just assume he's guilty. Also I've heard that in the first child molestation case the police had the boy describe Jackson's penis. The description matched.

The judge in Michael Jackson's child molestation trial ruled Monday that the prosecution may present testimony about past allegations against the pop star involving five boys, including two who reached multimillion-dollar civil settlements with the singer.

Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville ruled after hearing arguments by District Attorney Tom Sneddon and vigorous opposition by defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.

On Monday morning, prosecutors asked the judge for permission to call witnesses to testify about alleged past improper behavior by the pop star - including one who will say that the singer put his hand down his pants.

Sneddon described a variety of witnesses, but he did not immediately specifically identify two well-known cases, one in 1993 and another in 1990, that resulted in multimillion-dollar civil settlements with no criminal charges filed.

Sneddon told the judge he wanted to call one witness who will testify that Jackson twice touched him inappropriately outside his pants and once inside his pants.

The prosecutor also told the judge that Jackson was observed inappropriately touching four children. The alleged touching included kissing, hugging and inserting his hand into children's pants, he said.

"All of these children are basically within the ages of 10 and 13" at the time of the alleged offenses, Sneddon said.

The district attorney also said that testimony would include Jackson being seen in bed with four children while the underwear of the children and Jackson was at the side of the bed.

Buttressing the accuser's credibility

Sneddon asked Melville to allow the testimony about evidence of alleged past molestations in order buttress the credibility of Jackson's current accuser, whose honesty has been questioned by defense attorneys.

The district attorney noted that in the defense opening statement, Mesereau listed gifts Jackson purchased for the current accuser's mother. Sneddon said Jackson has a pattern of buying gifts for the mothers of boys to keep them preoccupied.

Arguing against the prosecution request, Mesereau said the current case was too weak to support use of testimony about past allegations.

Mesereau noted that the judge decided in a previous case to admit evidence of alleged past abuse but later decided the central allegations did not merit conviction, and granted a new trial after the defendant was convicted.

If the testimony is allowed, the defense was prepared to argue that the current case is similar to the 1993 allegations only because the current accuser is a copycat looking for a payoff.

Jackson, 46, is accused of molesting the then-13-year-old boy at Neverland in February or March 2003, giving him alcohol and conspiring to hold the boy's family captive to get them to make a video rebutting a documentary in which Jackson said he let children sleep in his bed. The singer said it was non-sexual.

The prosecutor said Monday that a witness would testify that Jackson once licked a child's head - something he is also accused of doing to his current accuser during a flight from Miami to Santa Barbara in February 2003.

Two witnesses would testify that Jackson has encouraged other children to call him "daddy," as his current accuser did, the prosecutor said.

On Sunday, Jackson declared his innocence in an interview with the Rev. Jesse Jackson and said he considers himself the latest of several "black luminaries" to be unjustly accused, citing former South African President Nelson Mandela and former heavyweight boxing champions Muhammad Ali and Jack Johnson as others.

In the interview broadcast on radio stations and the Internet, Jackson also asked fans to pray for him, said he was currently in "the lowest point emotionally" of his life, and denied he was on the verge of bankruptcy. He said at one point that he remains in "intense pain" after falling in the shower earlier this month, although he said at another point that his "health is perfect."



How damaging eh?

"Child liker"? More like child licker! :p I'm hillarious but seriously folks michael is a dead man walking. Soon he will go bankrupt and his lawyers won't save him anymore and that kid identified his little weeny to the police and now he will soon be in a place where many tough angry men like to stab child molestors with little homemade knifes made out of plastic.

I'm not on the jury, so I'll just assume he's guilty.

I don't understand your logic... since America is the 'free world' and all, isn't everybody supposed to be entitled to a fair trial, and regarded as innocent until proven guilty?

Also I've heard that in the first child molestation case the police had the boy describe Jackson's penis. The description matched.

He may well have seen Jackson naked. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was abused.

I don't understand your logic... since America is the 'free world' and all, isn't everybody supposed to be entitled to a fair trial, and regarded as innocent until proven guilty?



He may well have seen Jackson naked. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was abused.
It still means jackson was in a position of trust and a little child doesnt need to see something so deformed like him...i guess u could call it mental/dirty image abuse

It still means jackson was in a position of trust and a little child doesnt need to see something so deformed like him...i guess u could call it mental/dirty image abuse

As odd as it may seem, over here men and boys share changing rooms at public swimming pools etc. ...

I don't understand your logic... since America is the 'free world' and all, isn't everybody supposed to be entitled to a fair trial, and regarded as innocent until proven guilty?



He may well have seen Jackson naked. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was abused.
They're entitled to be presumed innocent until proven guilty by the law. The general public can assume whatever they want. Also, I've never had little kids look at me naked. I can't imagine too many innocent situations where that might happen. Hell, the kid identified the weirdo's pecker! If he accidentally walked in on Jackson in the bathroom don't you think Jackson would have covered up a little too quickly for the kid to be able to make a positive ID? Correction, Jackson probably wouldn't cover up at all.

He may well have seen Jackson naked. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was abused.


considering the man in question, they may just be one and the same :p

jackson needs help nuff said...and a straight jacket and an iron-unlockable-clad zipper...

Take a look at him and then tell me he didn't do it. I'm no fan of government, but I'm even less of a fan of Michæl Jackson.

I'm not on the jury, so I'll just assume he's guilty. Also I've heard that in the first child molestation case the police had the boy describe Jackson's penis. The description matched.
Anyone who has seen me change into my swintrunks at the 'Y' could do the same thing about mine. (Even if the water WAS cold! ) means nothing...

Take a look at him and then tell me he didn't do it. I'm no fan of government, but I'm even less of a fan of Michæl Jackson.
Ah, so now you judge people based on thier looks.

Nice.

Maybe you'd like to jail teens who dare to look 'different' also.

I think there is a chance he mightve done it, but the evidence so far has been very weak. Im inclined to believe he did it, but if I were a juror Id have to find him not guilty at this juncture. Thats bad because the prosecution is almost done and the defense hasnt even started.

I think the fact that he likes children is beyond question. However, it is irrelevant. The question isnt whether he likes children, its whether he molested this particular boy. Its easy to say neverland is a trap for luring boys to his bed, but neverland does not exist in a vacuum. Neverland is first and foremost, his personal amusement park. He built it because he is unable to go to amusement parks himself for fear of being swamped by crowds. The fact that he allows underprivilidged children to use it also does not exist in a vacuum. Michael Jackson holds the guiness world record for most charities supported by a pop star (they measure support by monetary donations, sponsorship, and participating in benefit auctions). He has supported countless organizations that help youth and children. He has even started his own organization, the "Heal the World Foundation". Allowing terminally ill and underprivilidged children to use his amusement park is simply an extension of the humanitarian work he does. He doesnt support childrens causes in order to get in their pants, for if that were the case he would only support causes that allow him to come into contact with children. He would not support organizations that help children he will never even meet, and he would not start his own foundation. Viewed in a vacuum, neverland may seem weird, but viewed as the extension of his extensive humanitarian work, it is actually quite normal.

yea likes kids way too much, in a way that should never be thought of from an adult to a child its wrong


But dont you see, he didnt molest those children, he made LOVE to them... (to quote tshirt hell)

*Snickers*

Ah, so now you judge people based on thier looks.

Nice.

Maybe you'd like to jail teens who dare to look 'different' also.

I was joking.

I was joking.

DOH!
Got me!


Now I feel like a tard.

I refuse to think too hard on this cuz it personally bothers me.
I thought he was the smoothest black dude I'd ever seen when Thriller came out.

He's now being judged for actions I don't want to talk about (enough lipservice already.) Nasty. :(

He's innocent until proven guilty, and I'm neither paying attention to the trial, or part of it.

Whatever they decide.

*BarfS*

With Michael Jackson being in the news lately, and seeing he obviously has fans who dont think he molested a child, what does the rest of the US say??
He is a child molester with a pattern of assaulting children.