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In a recent poll taken Bushs popularity has slipped all the way down to 45% an all new presidential low! I dont have an internet source but the source was the St. Petersburg times (in Florida) This is spectacular! But why couldnt this have happened during Nov.?

In an unrelated subject has anyone hear ever taken an overnight train than after they got off still felt like they were on the train?

And now we have a guy on this forum saying Bush may have illegally paid people and he will be impeached! Hooray!

I read that his rating was 45% as well, but I forgot where... May have been Reuters. And I hope that his rating slips even more.

And yeah, on that unrelated subject... It's happened to me before, with underground trams and rollercoasters. I love that feeling, man.

WOW, who cares? the guy will be in power for another 3 1/2 years.

I think it'd be pretty sweet if he took a nosedive down to about 1%. It won't happen though.

WOW, who cares? the guy will be in power for another 3 1/2 years.

Which will only go towards increasing the impact.

Wow, only 450 people out of 1001 still like him? That is trully Earth shattering for him. >.>

In a recent poll taken Bushs popularity has slipped all the way down to 45% an all new presidential low! I dont have an internet source but the source was the St. Petersburg times (in Florida) This is spectacular! But why couldnt this have happened during Nov.?

In an unrelated subject has anyone hear ever taken an overnight train than after they got off still felt like they were on the train?

And now we have a guy on this forum saying Bush may have illegally paid people and he will be impeached! Hooray!

Ironically enough, I think this is partly because we've been getting good news out of Iraq recently (granted, this good news needs to be taken with a few grains of salt: the election wasn't to elect a legislature but only to elect the members of the Constitutional convention, and moreover a hell of a lot of those elected were Shiite fundamentalists). People have the impression that the war on terror is going well. . .which causes us to focus on Bush blatantly pandering to his constituencies with Terry Schiavo (the fundies) and Social Security privatization.

WOW, who cares? the guy will be in power for another 3 1/2 years.

Yeah but looking toward the future if people hate him they will not elect another neo-con.

Jesus, I guess ruining the economy, criplling national security, lying to the nation, invading a foreign power with little justification, twice, attempting to push civil rights back 50 years, sanctioning torture, grandstanding on the Shiavo case and fucking off the Kyoto accords really swung round and bit him in the ass.

Whoda thunk it?

Maybe people are getting smarter all of the sudden.

Maybe people are getting smarter all of the sudden.

Yeah maybe they have finaly realized that Bush isnt very good looking.

Yeah but looking toward the future if people hate him they will not elect another neo-con.


Because we all know polls of 700 to 1000 people perfectly dictate the stance of the entire country. :rolleyes:

Look, I have at my immediate disposal the voter record of my area. I know how everyone is registered to vote (but only if they are registered.) This information is public, any dumbass who wants to take the time can make a poll show whatever he damn well pleases.

In a recent poll taken Bushs popularity has slipped all the way down to 45% an all new presidential low! I dont have an internet source but the source was the St. Petersburg times (in Florida) This is spectacular! But why couldnt this have happened during Nov.?

In an unrelated subject has anyone hear ever taken an overnight train than after they got off still felt like they were on the train?

And now we have a guy on this forum saying Bush may have illegally paid people and he will be impeached! Hooray!

Ok, I don't like Bush, but you're naive. Impeached? By a Congress that supports him? I think not.

Ironically enough, I think this is partly because we've been getting good news out of Iraq recently (granted, this good news needs to be taken with a few grains of salt: the election wasn't to elect a legislature but only to elect the members of the Constitutional convention, and moreover a hell of a lot of those elected were Shiite fundamentalists). People have the impression that the war on terror is going well. . .which causes us to focus on Bush blatantly pandering to his constituencies with Terry Schiavo (the fundies) and Social Security privatization.

wow, how dare he fight for a woman's right to live (no living will... husband's word against family...) or voice his opinion thereto. (actually, i understand that she's been a vegetable for a long time and isn't really "alive"... but if they really want to kill her, they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

and want to give people more control over their.. own.. money. Wow, how terrible.

In a recent poll taken Bushs popularity has slipped all the way down to 45% an all new presidential low! I dont have an internet source but the source was the St. Petersburg times (in Florida) This is spectacular! But why couldnt this have happened during Nov.?

In an unrelated subject has anyone hear ever taken an overnight train than after they got off still felt like they were on the train?

And now we have a guy on this forum saying Bush may have illegally paid people and he will be impeached! Hooray!


Never had the train scenario, but after playing ice hockey, I still feel like I'm skating, sliding around in my shoes and hip checking people off of the sidewalk.

wow, how dare he fight for a woman's right to live (no living will... husband's word against family...) or voice his opinion thereto. (actually, i understand that she's been a vegetable for along time and isn't really "alive"... but if they really want to kill her, they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

and want to give people more control over their.. own.. money. Wow, how terrible.

Ya, my heart bleeds. :rolleyes:

Never had the train scenario, but after playing ice hockey, I still feel like I'm skating, sliding around in my shoes and hip checking people off of the sidewalk.

i once fell on my chin (cut it) while playing broomball.

that damn ice was just too damn slippery to break out in a full sprint! hehe

Ok, I don't like Bush, but you're naive. Impeached? By a Congress that supports him? I think not.

Hey, if people find out Bush did do that, and congress doesnt impeach him riots will start, seriously, congress is not that corrupt. If all Democrats vote to impeach and no Republicans do the least there will be are protests, those will turn violent, and other countries will be pissed too.

wow, how dare he fight for a woman's right to live (no living will... husband's word against family...) or voice his opinion thereto. (actually, i understand that she's been a vegetable for a long time and isn't really "alive"... but if they really want to kill her, they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

and want to give people more control over their.. own.. money. Wow, how terrible.

Tennessee, huh? Impressive.

Anyway, giving people "control" over their Social Security is a very bad thing, because they could be screwed by stock plummets (among other things). Bush is trying to do what Reagan started: "Dismantling the Beast". I hated that bastard, Reagan. A sellout and a dick.

Ya, my heart bleeds. :rolleyes:

..so long as there's not an abnormal hole in it, you'll be fine.

wow, how dare he fight for a woman's right to live (no living will... husband's word against family...) or voice his opinion thereto. (actually, i understand that she's been a vegetable for a long time and isn't really "alive"... but if they really want to kill her, they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

and want to give people more control over their.. own.. money. Wow, how terrible.

Its people like you that make me hate people like you and the state you live in. Hes contradicting his own policy, by saying govt. should stand out of issues than interfering with the Shiavo case. Not that anyone with half a brain knows that Bush already is not a real conservative.

Tennessee, huh? Impressive.

Anyway, giving people "control" over their Social Security is a very bad thing, because they could be screwed by stock plummets (among other things). Bush is trying to do what Reagan started: "Dismantling the Beast". I hated that bastard, Reagan. A sellout and a dick.

Yes! Reagan and Bush are quite possibly the worst presidents ever. They are the kind of guys who think everything will be ok as long as people have money in their pockets and the national defense is strong, but Reagan is a dream next to Bush at least he had half a mind. Bushs domestic policy is "want some gritz" and his foreign policy is "YEE-HAW!"

While Ronalds was domestic "......" and foreign policy "......" If some of you dont understand that its because he was re-elected even after a 20 second pause during a debate.

Yes! Reagan and Bush are quite possibly the worst presidents ever. They are the kind of guys who think everything will be ok as long as people have money in their pockets and the national defense is strong, but Reagan is a dream next to Bush at least he had half a mind. Bushs domestic policy is "want some gritz" and his foreign policy is "YEE-HAW!"

While Ronalds was domestic "......" and foreign policy "......" If some of you dont understand that its because he was re-elected even after a 20 second pause during a debate.

And don't forget the fact that he never talked to the press. He was actually an intelligent person, but he turned into a slimeball sellout just to get more voters, and he had no idea of what he was doing.

wow, how dare he fight for a woman's right to live (no living will... husband's word against family...) or voice his opinion thereto. (actually, i understand that she's been a vegetable for a long time and isn't really "alive"... but if they really want to kill her, they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

and want to give people more control over their.. own.. money. Wow, how terrible.

about the Shiavo thing 85% of the whole country said that the govt should stay out of it. 13% said the govt. should interact. than 2% are indecisive bastards incapable of making their mind, where do you stand?

And don't forget the fact that he never talked to the press. He was actually an intelligent person, but he turned into a slimeball sellout just to get more voters, and he had no idea of what he was doing.

Yes I afree that they are both sellouts, they are trying to help their wall street stock buddies with the reform for social security noone else, they dont care about this country one bit. Just themselves and their friends.

Its people like you that make me hate people like you and the state you live in. Hes contradicting his own policy, by saying govt. should stand out of issues than interfering with the Shiavo case. Not that anyone with half a brain knows that Bush already is not a real conservative.


I guess Bush only wants the government to kill people. But then again, they're really good at it

i once fell on my chin (cut it) while playing broomball.

that damn ice was just too damn slippery to break out in a full sprint! hehe


Ow-thats when you learn ice is harder than the ground.

The reason for his slip is that he has angered the base. With full control of the Congress and the executive office, nothing has been done in regards to gay marriage, the flat tax, and especially the border. Social Security, too, has been left to practically twist in the wind. The fact is, Bush has increasingly moved to the left, although the Dems won't admit it.

but if they really want to kill her, they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

and want to give people more control over their.. own.. money. Wow, how terrible.

Doctor assisted suicide is illegal.

Also, you starving in this situation is different then a "normal" person. The body simply shuts down. Many cancer deaths happen this way. The person simply stops eating and are gone in about a week or so. My wifes aunt had bad cancer, she went that way.

As to the money comment? Sure let's let the "honest" businessmen handle your retirement.

Tennessee, huh? Impressive.

Anyway, giving people "control" over their Social Security is a very bad thing, because they could be screwed by stock plummets (among other things). Bush is trying to do what Reagan started: "Dismantling the Beast". I hated that bastard, Reagan. A sellout and a dick.

as opposed to being completely dependent on the government for the nest egg?

typical liberal, always assuming that people are retarded and can't handle their own finances. we really should let the government control our finances.

wow, sound financial planning.

"Here, you invested $50,000 over 50 years of work. Here's $30,000 back. We had to give $20,000 of yours to others -- this is a socialist policy after all -- but this $30,000 should be enough for you to retire on for, oh, about 9 months."

"Great, I really LOST a ton of money to inflation and the socialist aspect of this F***ing TAX. I SHOULD have been able to invest that money and actually MAKE money against inflation, ergo, to DECIDE WHAT THE F*CK TO DO WITH MY MONEY."

(see Time Value of Money, aversion to socialism, financial freedom, etc.)

they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

Can you imagine that she can't feel pain at all? And that she doesn't even understand the concept of pain? Seriously, I am amazed at how stupid adults can be. And I thought I had a lot to learn.

As to the Polls. I am not surprised as the President is getting hit from both sides.

He gets knocked by the people who think the goverment should stay out and then he gets knocked by the pro-lifers who said he didn't do enough.

Schiavo was a political land mind that should have been avoided.

This might help Bush. It looks like the insurgents want to give up.
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f37f03d2-9d9d-11d9-a227-00000e2511c8.html

as opposed to being completely dependent on the government for the nest egg?

typical liberal, always assuming that people are retarded and can't handle their own finances. we really should let the government control our finances.

wow, sound financial planning.

"Here, you invested $50,000 over 50 years of work. Here's $30,000 back. We had to give $20,000 of yours to others -- this is a socialist policy after all -- but this $30,000 should be enough for you to retire on for, oh, about 9 months."

"Great, I really LOST a ton of money to inflation and the socialist aspect of this F***ing TAX. I SHOULD have been able to invest that money and actually MAKE money against inflation, ergo, to DECIDE WHAT THE F*CK TO DO WITH MY MONEY."

(see Time Value of Money, aversion to socialism, financial freedom, etc.)

Some socialism is good. It's funny how you can advocate so hard for a complete drain on society with no brain, and then not give a damn about poor people. Hypocracy at its most disgusting.

Can you imagine that she can't feel pain at all? And that she doesn't even understand the concept of pain? Seriously, I am amazed at how stupid adults can be. And I thought I had a lot to learn.

and you know that she doesn't feel pain... how?

IQ 146

i'm very likely smarter than you are.

Some socialism is good. It's funny how you can advocate so hard for a complete drain on society with no brain, and then not give a damn about poor people. Hypocracy at its most disgusting.

i'm pro-life: against abortion (mildly anyway), against death penalty, and against them killing Schiavo WITHOUT HER EXPRESSED CONSENT IN A LIVING WILL.

as for giving a damn about poor people, i care for helping those who are mentally and/or physically helpless.. those with no means to support themselves. other than that... here's a couple months' worth of help and after that, help yourself. there is a large group of people who depend on others by way of the government... who are more than able to help themselves. it is these lazy people for whom i would be in favor of decreasing welfare benefits. if you are poor and are working to make ends meet or are at least making an effort to find work, then I salute you.

wow, how dare he fight for a woman's right to live (no living will... husband's word against family...) or voice his opinion thereto. (actually, i understand that she's been a vegetable for a long time and isn't really "alive"... but if they really want to kill her, they could at least show some mercy and drop some sodium cyanide into her drip or something as opposed to letting her STARVE.. TO.. DEATH. (can you imagine how painful that'd be?)

and want to give people more control over their.. own.. money. Wow, how terrible.

I don't like you.

Don't hold your breath, guys. Bush's popularity was about that just before the presidential election, and you all know how THAT turned out. :headbang: The dip is probably due to the fact that he is catching flak for not sending in the Marines to free Terri Schiavo from that nursing home in St. Petersburg. I wonder how the Democrats can justify to themselves sending that little Cuban boy back home to Cuba who had his mother die during the crossing when 'ol Dollar Bill was in office, saying the father's (a blood relative) right to have his son back home in Cuba was paramount while saying Terri Schaivo's parents (also blood relatives) have no rights to their daughter, who is in peril of losing her life, for God's sake. And don't give me that "she wanted it that way" argument. Michael Schaivo has absolutely no proof but his own word that she had ever stated that she wanted to die if she had this happen to her. But hypocrisy like this is why the Democrats lost last year. You may hate the republicans for what they stand for, but at least they are consistent.

Now awaiting the inevitable backlash...... :D

Can you imagine that she can't feel pain at all? And that she doesn't even understand the concept of pain? Seriously, I am amazed at how stupid adults can be. And I thought I had a lot to learn.

Then perhaps you would be good enough to explain why they are giving her Morphine?

Regards,
Gaar

Then perhaps you would be good enough to explain why they are giving her Morphine?

Regards,
Gaar


because you guys won't shut up about it

and you know that she doesn't feel pain... how?

IQ 146

i'm very likely smarter than you are.

First off, I wouldn't be so sure...

Secondly, what does intelligence have to do with any discussion? Other than it should give you the good sense to not bring it up as some type of "proof" in any discussion!?!?

By the way... Having been tested many times myself, I can say that I have scored higher than you have several times and just lower a couple of times, over the years. The most recent being 152, the highest I have ever scored...

But again, it helps me in no way to suggest that it means anything regarding the discussion we are having not related to intelligence.

Regards,
Gaar

and you know that she doesn't feel pain... how?

IQ 146

i'm very likely smarter than you are.


Right now, I dont think there is anyone who can truly prove this woman doesnt feel pain. Or wether she is self aware. I just saw a show last week that had accounts of people under anesthesia who couldnt move or speak, but could hear and feel the entire surgical procedure. They proved they were aware-tehy were able to detail conversations that took place during the ordeal. The surgeons and anesthesiologists said that right now, there is no way to be absolutely certain someone is not feeling pain. Its very possible Terri Shiavo is suffering and is aware why.

Wow, only 450 people out of 1001 still like him? That is trully Earth shattering for him. >.>
No, only 450 out of 1000 approve of the job he is doing. And this isn't a all time low, Nixon had the all-time low: 24% Every president in the past 75 years has gotten down to 35-45% approval rating, so don't think that this means that Bush is hated as much as you would like to think.

and you know that she doesn't feel pain... how?

IQ 146

i'm very likely smarter than you are.

thank you for that missconception.... I.Q does not equal intelegance, it measures your brain's ability to handel infomation and facts, mean look at Albert Einstine his I.Q was in the 90's (i cant rember the exact value) was he an idiot.

whipping out the old IQ score eh Frangland?
- its gonna stop there right... your not gonna post your penis size next are you?

whipping out the old IQ score eh Frangland?
- its gonna stop there right... your not gonna post your penis size next are you?

now that would be more interesting then the political compass... on you sig