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This is what happens when you let them control a country, dont let America be next.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/23/opinion/23kristof.html?ex=1112245200&en=d0b8bd9595f3ec04&ei=5070

This is what happens when you let them control a country, dont let America be next.
Because all blacks are stupid and evil and want to kill us all off.
We've heard it all before.
:rolleyes:

Yes beware of racists... and goat meat.

Business as usual.

Racism :mp5:

Dont blame me for their inability to run a country

This is what happens when you let them control a country, dont let America be next.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/23/opinion/23kristof.html?ex=1112245200&en=d0b8bd9595f3ec04&ei=5070


ACTUALLY, this is what happens when a foreign power oppresses people for years, then leaves a vacuum.

ACTUALLY, this is what happens when a foreign power oppresses people for years, then leaves a vacuum.
Oh sure, why dont we just alleviate all their responsibility...

It was the white conquerors and slavers who caused all of these problems. They stole the land and grew only cash crops. This combined with their policies of discrimination and racism resulted in the inability of the newly independent states to control these problems, since they didn't have the governmental experience.

Wow...as if the only choices are to be ruled by white oppressors or to be ruled by that nutjob Mugabe. People there need to look for other options the way the people of Iran are. They don't see the only choices as the Ayatollah (a violent, oppressive ideologue who has cut off the people from the world) and the Shah (a puppet who oppressed the people just to stay in power.) Frankly the parenthetical remarks above could describe Mugabe and the government of Rhodesia as well.

The U.S. should have kicked out Mugabe if they were concerned about liberating a country, and frankly if Mugabe had access to the resources Kim Jong-Il does, he would be every bit as dangerous.

Yes, it's easy to be responsible when all of the property has been in other people's hands, when there has been no health care to speak of, when there is no food, when there is no education.

Of course, people who are wealthy, have food in their stomachs, a roof over their head and an education can clearly feel superior because of an accident of birth.

Of course, people who are wealthy, have food in their stomachs, a roof over their head and an education can clearly feel superior because of an accident of birth.
Maybe you were an accident of birth, but I sure wasnt.

if Mugabe had access to the resources Kim Jong-Il does, he would be every bit as dangerous.

True. Unfortunately we no longer have a brave African leader like Julius Nyerere (sp?) to take a stand and remove megalomaniacs like him. If it wasn't for him, Idi Amin might still be in power... (however, his successors were not much better, I must concede)

Maybe you were an accident of birth, but I sure wasnt.

You were able to choose when and where and to whom you were born?

Maybe you were an accident of birth, but I sure wasnt.
Oh come on....

You were able to choose when and where and to whom you were born?
You know what I was referring to.
Besides, I hardly see what that has anything at all to do with the article.

You know what I was referring to.
Besides, I hardly see what that has anything at all to do with the article.
What exactly were you referring to? :confused:

What exactly were you referring to? :confused:
He's always like that.

You mentioned it first, so I responded.

Those poor, poor people. Saying they're to blame for things they can't do much about doesn't improve their situation, Jugend. More donating/humanitarian aid, less rascism.

Maybe you were an accident of birth, but I sure wasnt.

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Those poor, poor people. Saying they're to blame for things they can't do much about doesn't improve their situation, Jugend. More donating/humanitarian aid, less rascism.
1. They're the ones who ousted the Whites from power. They got themelves into the mess.
2. Donating to a lost cause? What a waste of money. I'd rather spend the money on making a more deadly straing of AIDS for them.
3. Racist? Whats racist about posting an article and saying the truth? The country ran fine under the Whites. Blacks took over, now its a shit hole. I fail to see why the logic escapes you.

I'd rather spend the money on making a more deadly straing of AIDS for them.
Thats going to damn far.

3. Racist? Whats racist about posting an article and saying the truth? The country ran fine under the Whites. Blacks took over, now its a shit hole. I fail to see why the logic escapes you.

No it didn't. Only the whites did well. Africans were repeatedly abused and their living standards crushed by price fixing, discrimination, and the unwillingness of the colonial governments to give a damn about the conquered inhabitants.

For some insight on the problems of Africa, here is a report by the UN on the effect of colonialism on modern Africa:

http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/sgreport/report.htm

I'd rather spend the money on making a more deadly straing of AIDS for them.

AIDS isn't only in Africa. It's killing people everywhere.

No it didn't. Only the whites did well. Africans were repeatedly abused and their living standards crushed by price fixing, discrimination, and the unwillingness of the colonial governments to give a damn about the conquered inhabitants.

For some insight on the problems of Africa, here is a report by the UN on the effect of colonialism on modern Africa:

http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/sgreport/report.htm

Perhaps you'd like to re-read the article to hear what the inhabitants said about their former government.

In context, he is not saying that the white government was acceptable, he is simply saying that compared to the abuses of the current regime. It is the lesser of two evils and is not justifying or supporting it based upon its own merits but rather a comparison between it and something worse.

Thats going to damn far.
Correct. You won't be seing any more of it from this nation.

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