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The Middle East; a land that is in constant turmoil. The leaders of this area are, more often than not, lead by men who were not elected into power(or were elected, but then stayed waaaaay past their term). In this vital area of the world, who do you think is the best leader?

(Note: I am including North Africa as well, seeing how it is practically the Middle East.

I am not sure if Iran counts as the Middle East, so it's not up there.).

*poll up soon*

The Middle East; a land that is in constant turmoil. The leaders of this area are, more often than not, lead by men who were not elected into power(or were elected, but then stayed waaaaay past their term). In this vital area of the world, who do you think is the best leader?

(Note: I am including North Africa as well, seeing how it is practically the Middle East.

I am not sure if Iran counts as the Middle East, so it's not up there.).

*poll up soon*
Man, what a selection. *sigh*

I'm going for Prince Abdullah because it's Saudi Arabia! Besides he makes stands and decisions. His roots and influence go deep in the Muslim world right now. He's not a puppet of the US (so much...) and he's a good independant leader in the Middle East.

Probably the koran, because most of the middle east is theological anyway.

Man, what a selection. *sigh*

Well, King Adbullah is one of the most forward-pushing rulers of the Arab world. He is a big advocate of democracy, friendship with the west, etc. He is also well liked by his people, and his country is in very good condition.

He even has his own website! (http://www.kingabdullah.jo/homepage.php)

Qadhafi.

I'm going for Prince Abdullah because it's Saudi Arabia! Besides he makes stands and decisions. His roots and influence go deep in the Muslim world right now. He's not a puppet of the US (so much...) and he's a good independant leader in the Middle East.

He also tortures his own people, denies civil rights to a large portion of his population, and isn't a big fan of poor non-muslim women. Or poor non-muslim men.

King Abdullah kicks Prince Abdullahs arse.


Oh, and I shoulda put the U.A.E ><. They are one of the freest countries in the Arab World(and they aren't a U.S. puppet either!)

A.) The president of Iraq is Ganzi al Yawer. Iyad Allawi is the Prime Minister, though he does have the real power in Iraq.
B.) I voted for Ariel Sharon. If Mahmoud Abbas was up there, I might vote for him, but Sharon is the best on there. He started out as a hard liner, but somewhere in his tenure, he had a change of heart. He is working actively for peace in the region now, but don't mistake it for weakness. He is still tough on terrorists.

Qadhafi.
Terrorist-turned-pansy. suuuure.

Its gotta be Sharon. Though as unelected dictators go, King Abdullah of Jordan takes it.

And Prince Abdulla not being a puppet!? HA! Saudi Arabia is a terrorist sponsor and US bitch all in one.

He also tortures his own people, denies civil rights to a large portion of his population, and isn't a big fan of poor non-muslim women. Or poor non-muslim men.

King Abdullah kicks Prince Abdullahs arse.


Oh, and I shoulda put the U.A.E ><. They are one of the freest countries in the Arab World(and they aren't a U.S. puppet either!)
Only Dubai, though. The rest are just like the other Gulf states.

A.) The president of Iraq is Ganzi al Yawer. Iyad Allawi is the Prime Minister, though he does have the real power in Iraq.
B.) I voted for Ariel Sharon. If Mahmoud Abbas was up there, I might vote for him, but Sharon is the best on there. He started out as a hard liner, but somewhere in his tenure, he had a change of heart. He is working actively for peace in the region now, but don't mistake it for weakness. He is still tough on terrorists.

A. I know that.

I put the people with real power up there.

Only Dubai, though. The rest are just like the other Gulf states.

Not really.

Abu Dhabi is also very ahead. The others I am not so sure of, but they are a helluva lot better then Saudi Arabia.

For his massive, sweeping changes towards peace, Mahmoud Abbas gets my vote.

A. I know that.

I put the people with real power up there.
Yeah, but you listed him as president.
As for the UAE, they are a little further along as a whole, but Dubai is farthest. It's even good enouugh to vacation there. Still, Qatar is making remarkable progress in liberalizing its economy and government.

either the Al-Khalifas of Bahrain, or whoevers in charge of the UAE. they are both pro-US and relatively western. Bahrain is more friendly, we have troops there, but less western

either the Al-Khalifas of Bahrain, or whoevers in charge of the UAE. they are both pro-US and relatively western. Bahrain is more friendly, we have troops there, but less western
You must be stationed there, aren't you?

You must be stationed there, aren't you?
no i am not, i cant join the military yet. I probably wouldnt join the navy either, which is most of the people there (the entire 5th fleet) but i am interested in the middle east, and Bentley College, where my father works, sends teachers there and recieves students. He went on a trip to Bahrain and the UAE recently

Khatami all the way.

no i am not, i cant join the military yet. I probably wouldnt join the navy either, which is most of the people there (the entire 5th fleet) but i am interested in the middle east, and Bentley College, where my father works, sends teachers there and recieves students. He went on a trip to Bahrain and the UAE recently
It says that your location is Bahrain. Are you there right now?

it says (earth II) because thats where my capital in E2 is. im in massachusetts

To anyone who voted for Sharon, I ask you this:
How can you sleep at night, honoring a man who allows innocent civilians to be tortured? The Palestinians are only defending their land...land that is rightfully theirs. Its only a matter of time until the Arab nations join arms and remove the vermin in the Middle East.

(OOC: Present-day leader, or of all time?)

remove the vermin in the Middle East.

Since when are innocent men women and children vermin? I don't support what Israel does in Palestine, but neither do I approve of people blowing themselves up in bus stations, buses, schools, restaurants, etc. These kind of statements are responsible for the hate in the first place.

To anyone who voted for Sharon, I ask you this:
How can you sleep at night, honoring a man who allows innocent civilians to be tortured? The Palestinians are only defending their land...land that is rightfully theirs. Its only a matter of time until the Arab nations join arms and remove the vermin in the Middle East.
i support israel by conqueror's right, if nothing else, but i dont like the way Sharon runs things.

(OOC: Present-day leader, or of all time?)
present day, all time would be the Caliphs who founded the Muslim Empire

Yeah, but you listed him as president.
As for the UAE, they are a little further along as a whole, but Dubai is farthest. It's even good enouugh to vacation there. Still, Qatar is making remarkable progress in liberalizing its economy and government.

Me loves Dubai.

*drools*

Caliphs who founded the Muslim Empire

Definitely. Their Empire was responsible for some of the greatest advances in science and technology ever. They more or less prevented the Dark Ages from darkening the Middle East, and the Moors did the same in Spain (until the Reconquista :mad: )

To anyone who voted for Sharon, I ask you this:
How can you sleep at night, honoring a man who allows innocent civilians to be tortured? The Palestinians are only defending their land...land that is rightfully theirs. Its only a matter of time until the Arab nations join arms and remove the vermin in the Middle East.
Hey, everyone is like Sharon down there. He earns no Nobel Peace Prizes from me, but comparatively, at least he is a shrewd politician compared to, say, Assad.

Since when are innocent men women and children vermin? I don't support what Israel does in Palestine, but neither do I approve of people blowing themselves up in bus stations, buses, schools, restaurants, etc. These kind of statements are responsible for the hate in the first place.

No, the very presence of Jews is responsible for the hate in the first place.
No Jews = No Hate.
The Palestinians want to return to the way their lives were, pre-1948.

i support israel by conqueror's right, if nothing else, but i dont like the way Sharon runs things.
"conqueror's right"???
They were given the country on a silver platter by the British.
First they lie about a Holohaox, and now they're killing innocent Palestinians.
Just sad....

The anger towards the Jews and Christians stems from the policies of imperialism in the region by European nations, which fanned the flames of hatred.

First they lie about a Holohaox,

Prove it was a hoax.

"conqueror's right"???
They were given the country on a silver platter by the British.
First they lie about a Holohaox, and now they're killing innocent Palestinians.
Just sad....
first of all, the Holocaust happened ( if you meant Holohoax, you spelled it wrong)

they were given it by the British, but they fought off the Arab world in three different wars, unless, of course, they really didn't happen

plenty of other innocent israelis were killed as well

Prove it was a hoax.
Prove it happened, when nowhere in any German documents does it mention anything about gas chambers or death machines.
Surely if the Nazis had "systematically" killed 6 million Jews, there would be at least one piece of evidence. However, there is none.

Prove it happened, when nowhere in any German documents does it mention anything about gas chambers or death machines.
Surely if the Nazis had "systematically" killed 6 million Jews, there would be at least one piece of evidence. However, there is none.
do thousands of dead bodies count?

He also tortures his own people, denies civil rights to a large portion of his population, and isn't a big fan of poor non-muslim women. Or poor non-muslim men.

King Abdullah kicks Prince Abdullahs arse.


Oh, and I shoulda put the U.A.E ><. They are one of the freest countries in the Arab World(and they aren't a U.S. puppet either!)
At least he isn't a pawn ;)

do thousands of dead bodies count?
Yes, those thousands of bodies account for thousands of deaths...not 6 million. But, disease and malnutruition killed more Jews than anything else.

Yes, those thousands of bodies account for thousands of deaths...not 6 million. But, disease and malnutruition killed more Jews than anything else.
well sending them to camps where they got disease and became malnourished is bad too, isnt it?

Prove it happened, when nowhere in any German documents does it mention anything about gas chambers or death machines.

I don't think I'd trust the Nazis with providing fair and accurate information.

Furthermore, how did all of the Holocaust survivors, American/Russian troops, and Nuremburg tribunals craft one elaborate hoax without any flaws in their account? All of the homosexual survivors also seem to correspond with the story, and there are pictures, and ruins, and the tatoos on survivors. I suppose they put those on themselves as part of ther massive worldwide conspiracy?

I'm with Mystic Mindinao on this one. I favor Mahmoud Abbas of Palestine; he has a tough job, and I think he's handling it wonderfully. However, if I couldn't choose him, I'd choose Ariel Sharon. Yeah, he's a hardliner and has his flaws, but he's getting better.

I would have to say Mahmud Abbas.

I don't think I'd trust the Nazis with providing fair and accurate information.

Furthermore, how did all of the Holocaust survivors, American/Russian troops, and Nuremburg tribunals craft one elaborate hoax without any flaws in their account? All of the homosexual survivors also seem to correspond with the story, and there are pictures, and ruins, and the tatoos on survivors. I suppose they put those on themselves as part of ther massive worldwide conspiracy?

Without any flaws?!?!?!
Wow, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. Their story is like an old blanket, full of holes, pieces missing, and it wont cover things up forever.

Without any flaws?!?!?!
Wow, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. Their story is like an old blanket, full of holes, pieces missing, and it wont cover things up forever.
would you care to elaborate?

Without any flaws?!?!?!
Wow, I'm not even sure how to respond to that. Their story is like an old blanket, full of holes, pieces missing, and it wont cover things up forever.
*cough* Sorry, *cough*I'm allergic to bullshit. *cough*

Me loves Dubai.

*drools*
Yeah. There's a nice construction boom going on there. They plan on building the world's tallest building there on a manmade island shaped like a palm tree.
And the amazing thing about their wealth is that it is independent of oil.

would you care to elaborate?
ok, here's one for you.
Explain why there was more Zyklon-B residue in the delousing chambers than there were in the so-called "gas chambers?"

Name some real, major holes in the story that throw the veracity of the Holocaust in to question.

Yeah. There's a nice construction boom going on there. They plan on building the world's tallest building there on a manmade island shaped like a palm tree.
did you hear about the project where they're making a bunch of islands in the shape of the different landmasses of the world, and people buy different sections to build on

Explain why there was more Zyklon-B residue in the delousing chambers than there were in the so-called "gas chambers?"

What is the source of this claim?

What is the source of this claim?
Research done by American, British, and German researchers in the 1960s.
Please dont waste my time debating unless you are well versed in Holohoax history.

ok, here's one for you.
Explain why there was more Zyklon-B residue in the delousing chambers than there were in the so-called "gas chambers?"
Yes, care to elaborate?

ok, here's one for you.
Explain why there was more Zyklon-B residue in the delousing chambers than there were in the so-called "gas chambers?"
first of all, its not a good thing that your camps even required de-lousing chambers, second, using the same gas in the "gas chambers" as the "de-lousing chambers" isnt the best idea if this is happy freindly Torah camp, or whatever you think it is

Research done by American, British, and German researchers in the 1960s.

Give me a link to this report and I will review it.

Yes, care to elaborate?
In order for the Nazis to have gassed as many Jews as they claim, the readings in the gas chambers would be far, far higher than the delousing facilities.

Also:

There were two types of gas chambers in Auschwitz: those used for delousing clothes ("delousing gas chambers") and those used for killing people on a massive scale ("extermination gas chambers"). The delousing gas chambers were a standard feature, and were left intact by the SS (the extermination gas chambers were dynamited in an effort to conceal criminal traces).

Both used Zyklon B, just in different amounts.

Research done by American, British, and German researchers in the 1960s.
Please dont waste my time debating unless you are well versed in Holohoax history.
If you don't want to give sources and debate it, then wouldn't it make sense to not bring it up?

well, id like to argue more, but i have to go to bed. School tomorrow. Who says they were all killed in the gas chambers anyway. Like you said, starvation, malnutrition, what about firing squads, the way it started.

TLS, sorry about the threadjack

Here is some information about the gas chambers from http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-06.html

HCN is much more effective on warm-blooded animals, including humans, than it is on insects. The exposure period (to HCN) is much greater in delousing operations than in homicidal gassings. This means that a much lower concentration is necessary to kill people than to get rid of lice, etc. In delousing, concentrations of up to 16,000 ppm (parts per million) are sometimes used, and exposure time can be up to 72 hours; while 300 ppm will kill people in fifteen minutes or so.

Therefore, the HCN in the extermination chambers hardly had time to form compounds on the walls. While some claim that the gas would need a lot of time to kill, because it would have to spread all over the chamber, it simply is not true; the gas chambers were not that large (those in Krematoria II and III were about 210 square meters), and the Zyklon-B was dropped from four openings (still visible in the ruins of the gas chambers). Since the concentration used was higher than the lethal one, death was very swift.

Furthermore, the delousing chambers are intact while the extermination chambers were blown up (a .GIF picture of the one of Krema II is available). Therefore, their walls have been exposed to the elements for the last 50 years. The ruins of the gas chamber of Krema II are covered with about 3 feet of water during certain periods of the year; HCN compounds easily dissolve in these surroundings. Nonetheless, so much gassing took place that some of the compound remained.

Summarizing, the walls of the extermination gas chambers were in contact with HCN for a much shorter time then those of the delousing chambers, and for the last 45 years were exposed to surroundings which dissolve the compounds, while the delousing rooms were not. Therefore it is obvious that less traces of compounds would remain in them.

Give me a link to this report and I will review it.
Please, this is a well known, and well documented fact. I'm not going to spoonfeed you. If you want to debate me, please take the time to do your own research.

first of all, its not a good thing that your camps even required de-lousing chambers, second, using the same gas in the "gas chambers" as the "de-lousing chambers" isnt the best idea if this is happy freindly Torah camp, or whatever you think it is
The needed to de-louse everyone. Even in the first world war. Its a dirty place and lice spreads. It is necessary. And yes, I agree. It does seem odd that the gas they used to kill lice was apparently used to kill people. Do you have any idea how much Zyklon-B it would take to kill a person?

Look, as interesting as WWII Europe can be, that's not the subject at hand. Europe, as your geography teacher may well tell you, is not in the Middle East. So unless one can supertranspose it, shut up, and get back on topic.

Here is some information about the gas chambers from http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/auschwitz/auschwitz-faq-06.html
Your source is blatantly biased. They are about as anti-Nazi as you can get, next to the ADL.

did you hear about the project where they're making a bunch of islands in the shape of the different landmasses of the world, and people buy different sections to build on
No, but I believe it. They would build a causeway to Iran shaped like a poodle if they wanted to.

No, but I believe it. They would build a causeway to Iran shaped like a poodle if they wanted to.
When are these islands scheduled to open?

Please, this is a well known, and well documented fact. I'm not going to spoonfeed you. If you want to debate me, please take the time to do your own research.

If it is well known, why can't you just name it for me? I just posted a piece and provided a link, and it wasn't spoonfeeding, just being helpful to those on the thread.
Those statistics given are numbers, not just statements. It just provided numbers and drew a legitimate fact based conclusion.


Mystic Mindinao, it'll be tough to get back on topic just out of the blue . Please post something to steer us back if you can.

present day, all time would be the Caliphs who founded the Muslim Empire

Bleh, no one, then. I don't like any of 'em.

Dubya all the way. lol.
He counts. He's got more soldiers there than a lot of the other countries, anyway.

A.) The president of Iraq is Ganzi al Yawer. Iyad Allawi is the Prime Minister, though he does have the real power in Iraq.
B.) I voted for Ariel Sharon. If Mahmoud Abbas was up there, I might vote for him, but Sharon is the best on there. He started out as a hard liner, but somewhere in his tenure, he had a change of heart. He is working actively for peace in the region now, but don't mistake it for weakness. He is still tough on terrorists.

Ariel Sharon is notorious as a general who ordered the massacres of innocent Palestinians. King Abdullah II of Jordan is most definitely the greatest leader of the Middle East at this time. You're right the Prime Minister is the major power holder in Iraq. However, title of President doesn't necessarily even designate one as the leader on paper. In Ireland, there is a President and Prime Minister, and the Prime Minister is the one who is looked to as the leader, and not just practically. In Palestine, the President is the major power holder, as we have seen when Abbas was Prime Minister; he resigned because Arafat wouldn't allow him to do what needed to be done, and now he is President so he doesn't have to worry. But yes, in Iraq the Prime Minister is both the major power holder, and the major diplomat when meeting with other leaders.

Just remember Iyad Allawi isn't the President of Iraq, he is the interim PM.

I believe Abu Mazen is the best.

Dubya all the way. lol.
He counts. He's got more soldiers there than a lot of the other countries, anyway.
He still doesn't qualify as a Middle Eastern leader.

Dubya all the way. lol.
He counts. He's got more soldiers there than a lot of the other countries, anyway.
Not Saudi Arabia. They have the largest military in the Arab world by far.

I'd go with President Ahmet Sezer (of Turkey). He deserves credit for being the head of a more or less stable democracy and preserving a secular government. Also deserves credit for slowing inflation and launching the revalued lira. I think Turkey is in a prime position for an economic boom.

Allawi. He will clean Iraq up! You wait and see!

I am not sure if Iran counts as the Middle East, so it's not up there.).

Iran is in Mid-East. Turkey is kulturally in Europe, Geographically in Mid-East.

Just remember Iyad Allawi isn't the President of Iraq, he is the interim PM.

I believe Abu Mazen is the best.

The new Prime Minister will be looked to even more so than Allawi as he leader of Iraq. Ibrahim Jaafari will be the leader of Iraq, and the President has virtually no power, as is the case with MOST countries who have separate heads of state and heads of government. An exception I can immediately think of is France. President Jacques Chirac is looked to as France's leader more so than the Prime Minister.

I'd go with President Ahmet Sezer (of Turkey). He deserves credit for being the head of a more or less stable democracy and preserving a secular government. Also deserves credit for slowing inflation and launching the revalued lira. I think Turkey is in a prime position for an economic boom.
Is this thread about current or overall leaders?

Is this thread about current or overall leaders?

He was in the poll, and all of the leaders are current, so I'd have to say it is only current leaders.

He was in the poll, and all of the leaders are current, so I'd have to say it is only current leaders.
I was tempted to vote for yours, but I saw the 'other' option and thought that Abbas deserved it. After all, he is making a hell of a lot more progress than Arafat did.

I was tempted to vote for yours, but I saw the 'other' option and thought that Abbas deserved it. After all, he is making a hell of a lot more progress than Arafat did.

He is a good choice, probably my #2.

I put other, as I would say Saddam hussein. I know he isnt current, but the current PM is hard to judge, and Saddam was only ousted a few years ago. He was mostly secular, he gave fairly good rights for his people, and while he was a bit of a warmonger, he seemed to do fairly well...

Oh, and i can't wait for the Mall of Arabia to open!

The worlds largest mall! Think of all the gaming merchandise I can buy!

*drools*

Abd Dubailand(an area with alot of recreational stuff) will be right next door! So I can buy gaming merchandise, hang out in Dubailand, go to a Dubai club for dinner, and then sleep in a luxury Dubai hotel!

*drools s'more*

Oh, and guys, try to stay on topic. If ye wanna debate Hitler, start another one of those flame-bait threads.

I put other, as I would say Saddam hussein. I know he isnt current, but the current PM is hard to judge, and Saddam was only ousted a few years ago. He was mostly secular, he gave fairly good rights for his people, and while he was a bit of a warmonger, he seemed to do fairly well...

Yeah, except for when he tortured them, burned down their cities, nearly destroyed entire cultures(see: Marsh Arabs), used WMD's against his own people, and buried them alive.

Otherwise, he was an O.K. leader(as long as you don't look at the lack of free speech and horrendous corruption).

Dubai is the model for any modernization of the Middle Eastern economies, so it deserves some credit at least.

I did pick the king of Jordan on the poll but to tell the truth they are all bad and Ariel Sharon, who has the most votes on the poll, is really really bad.

I did pick the king of Jordan on the poll but to tell the truth they are all bad and Ariel Sharon, who has the most votes on the poll, is really really bad.

At least King Abdullah II isn't corrupt, is well educated, runs his country well, and keeps good ties with everyone(including Jordans former arch-nemisis, Israel).

That's better than everyone else up there(except for maybe President Ahmet Necdet Seze)

At least King Abdullah II isn't corrupt, is well educated, runs his country well, and keeps good ties with everyone(including Jordans former arch-nemisis, Israel).

That's better than everyone else up there(except for maybe President Ahmet Necdet Seze)

Yes, thats why I chose him.

Sharon...that is very obvious.

Especially since Israel is the only democractic country in the entire Region.

Then again that's overall, a religious person might have no problems with Jordan or Egypt.

And Abbas? Keruv....trust me Palestine will not last, the hopes are too high. The people and government are not sincere about what they want, they want the same thing now as they did then. Total Destruction of Israel.

And this will blow up in Israels face one day...hopefully Sharon will be smart enough to "reoccupy" the "territories" Or as a i say it, take back our land from those who do not care for it.

Sharon...that is very obvious.

Especially since Israel is the only democractic country in the entire Region.

Then again that's overall, a religious person might have no problems with Jordan or Egypt.

And Abbas? Keruv....trust me Palestine will not last, the hopes are too high. The people and government are not sincere about what they want, they want the same thing now as they did then. Total Destruction of Israel.

And this will blow up in Israels face one day...hopefully Sharon will be smart enough to "reoccupy" the "territories" Or as a i say it, take back our land from those who do not care for it.

You speak of Israel as it were a great "democratic" nation., it's not. Israel is a tyrant government and it will not change.
Sharon is nothing but a warmongerer, he is the Israel version of Adolf Hitler.
I don't care about Palistine, if they want freedom and land they must turn to peacefull ways.Bombing children is not getting them sympothy.

Sharon...that is very obvious.

Especially since Israel is the only democractic country in the entire Region.

Then again that's overall, a religious person might have no problems with Jordan or Egypt.

And Abbas? Keruv....trust me Palestine will not last, the hopes are too high. The people and government are not sincere about what they want, they want the same thing now as they did then. Total Destruction of Israel.

And this will blow up in Israels face one day...hopefully Sharon will be smart enough to "reoccupy" the "territories" Or as a i say it, take back our land from those who do not care for it.

*sigh*

How did I know you were gonna say this?

No offence, MuhOre, but that statement was obviously biased. When it comes to your own country, if you are a patriot you will obviously go to the extreme. If you asked me a country such as "Did America win the War of 1812", I would say "Yes" and then go into a big rant(such as you did with your Sharon post).

Keruv, you are also biased. Although, you are a Muslim Jew, so you probably see both sides....

Seems like outta all the Arabs, King Abdullah II is the winner so far.

And that's good. If people like Abdullah ruled the entire Arab world, we'd have alot of well off, peaceful, good-relations-with-the-west, techno-savvy, open constitutional monarchies!

When are these islands scheduled to open?
i dont know, i think they're in final planning stages. Hopefully we're done arguing if the Holocaust was really happy fun Torah camp

Mahmoud Abbas! Mahmoud Abbas!
(sorry, but after listening to that idiot Arafat, it's hard not to like this new guy)

israel's pretty democratic as long as you are an orthodox jew

Ehmud Barak, ex-Israeli PM

buuuuuuuumpz0rziez

Ehmud Barak, ex-Israeli PM

Modern leaders :/

A recent NPR interview with the King of Jordan impressed me greatly. He seems to be a tough, serious, intelligent man of great moral character who is willing to give up some personal power for the good of his people. Kind of the Anti-Bush.

A recent NPR interview with the King of Jordan impressed me greatly. He seems to be a tough, serious, intelligent man of great moral character who is willing to give up some personal power for the good of his people. Kind of the Anti-Bush.

Exaaaaactly! :D

Hopefully, his son will be just as good. He prolly will be, seeing how his parents are of such strong moral fiber. He also doesn't really hafta worry ab00t a coup, seeing how his people are happy.

Let's just hope the terrorists screw everything up ><.

When are these islands scheduled to open?
There are two palm shape islands. One is open. The other will be completed soon. However, one can expect that more islands will be built as they need land.

buuuump

There are two palm shape islands. One is open. The other will be completed soon. However, one can expect that more islands will be built as they need land.
cant they expand inward? I know Bahrain is building outward because the royal family owns the middle, and wont sell any land