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Alright. Now there are 3 vague movies if I have ever seen any.
Can anyone tell me why the US government in the movies build those cubes and what what they are good for?

I know what the former two are in geometry, but I've never heard of "Cube Zero"

I know what the former two are in geometry, but I've never heard of "Cube Zero"
It's the third Cube movie. Backside says it's the prequel to the other 2.
It's supposedly tell you about the origin of the cube and it's purpose. (It doesn't or else I wouldn't be asking.)

Can anyone tell me why the US government in the movies build those cubes and what what they are good for?

I seem to have missed the bit which connects the US government to the building of the Cubes... my pet theory for why they were built: a bureaucratic Kafkaesque system run out of control and no longer actually answerable to anything other than itself. Nobody actually wanted the Cubes to be built or the program to continue, but they were all too trapped within the bureaucracy to stop them.

It's the third Cube movie. Backside says it's the prequel to the other 2.

And its on a level with the original film, rather than the somewhat disappointing Hypercube.

If anything, the Cubes seem to be an experiment in imprisonment, group mental capabilities and group psychology.

I loved the first Cube movie, but Hypercube was horrible. It was alternately stupid, inane, and campy. And not the good kind of campy. Never saw the third one, but I may now have to look into it since its gotted such a glowing rec from Bodies Without Organs. Neither of the ones that I saw said anything about the US government, so I can't really help you.

I seem to have missed the bit which connects the US government to the building of the Cubes... my pet theory for why they were built: a bureaucratic Kafkaesque system run out of control and no longer actually answerable to anything other than itself. Nobody actually wanted the Cubes to be built or the program to continue, but they were all too trapped within the bureaucracy to stop them.
Well, in Hypercube the agent is greeted at the exit by a squad of soldiers. Reports and promptly get's shot. (I haven't seen Cube yet.) I just finished watching Cube Zero and that Jax character speaks about state property and he has acces to the implanted troops of the US. There.

But what I want to know if it has been made clear what the purpose of the Cubes is.

Well, in Hypercube the agent is greeted at the exit by a squad of soldiers. Reports and promptly get's shot. (I haven't seen Cube yet.) I just finished watching Cube Zero and that Jax character speaks about state property and he has acces to the implanted troops of the US. There.

Ah yes, but this just indicates that the Cubes operate in the US, rather than directly indicating that the US government are directly responsible for the program.

But what I want to know if it has been made clear what the purpose of the Cubes is.

I guess that possibly the biggest clue we have is the test question that gets asked in Cube Zero. White text follows: Do you believe in God?

Ah yes, but this just indicates that the Cubes operate in the US, rather than directly indicating that the US government are directly responsible for the program.
Jax does say: Your taxdollars at work. So.



I guess that possibly the biggest clue we have is the test question that gets asked in Cube Zero. White text follows: Do you believe in God?
With Bush running things that actually makes sense.

in Cube, one of the "prisioners" was a government worker who ordered some parts for the Cube. he stated that the cube was built by the US. Government. The hypothesis was that they were testing the cube out to see if escape was possible. I think they were the second group in.. the first might be the Cube Zero storyline.

in Hypercube, they tried to Tech it up and failed miserably. I think the last person survived tho... she was an assassin sent to kill the designer of the Hypercube and since it collapsed upon itself at the end, there was no proof as to what happened.

never saw Cube Zero... but that will change... soon...

Jax does say: Your taxdollars at work. So.

Yeah, sorry I meant to write 'exclusively' there rather than 'directly': I just kind of picked up the suggestion from the first two films that the system of Cubes might not be restricted to just the US - possibly this is just because I knew the films had a Canadian origin.

in Cube, one of the "prisioners" was a government worker who ordered some parts for the Cube. he stated that the cube was built by the US. Government. The hypothesis was that they were testing the cube out to see if escape was possible. I think they were the second group in.. the first might be the Cube Zero storyline.


I think one of the things to bear in mind here might be that what the characters honestly believe and say might not be the actual case: Cube Zero further sheds light/doubt on whether anyone knows the big picture.

I seem to have missed the bit which connects the US government to the building of the Cubes... my pet theory for why they were built: a bureaucratic Kafkaesque system run out of control and no longer actually answerable to anything other than itself. Nobody actually wanted the Cubes to be built or the program to continue, but they were all too trapped within the bureaucracy to stop them.
I saw all three, and that was my impression as well. There was really just an endless bureaucracy running the whole thing. By the last movie (Cube Zero), they were nabbing mothers and children who'd committed no crime.

I thought the first and third were decent, but the second was just painful.
Pissed me off that the labotomized guy at the end of the prequel didn't turn out to be the retarded man in the first. That would've made more sense, and brought a little more cohesion to the trilogy.

I saw all three, and that was my impression as well. There was really just an endless bureaucracy running the whole thing. By the last movie (Cube Zero), they were nabbing mothers and children who'd committed no crime.

Which brings us back to Kafka...

I thought the first and third were decent, but the second was just painful.
Pissed me off that the labotomized guy at the end of the prequel didn't turn out to be the retarded man in the first. That would've made more sense, and brought a little more cohesion to the trilogy.

spoily white text... but, his superior does say that he has been sentenced to death (or was it life) four times or some such when he is fiddling about with his brain, and so there is the possibility that at that point he has already been through the cube and died at least once, and that the idiot savant from the original film is actually that same character serving another of his sentences

in Cube, one of the "prisioners" was a government worker who ordered some parts for the Cube. he stated that the cube was built by the US. Government. The hypothesis was that they were testing the cube out to see if escape was possible. I think they were the second group in.. the first might be the Cube Zero storyline.
A rather silly reason. :(

in Hypercube, they tried to Tech it up and failed miserably. I think the last person survived tho... she was an assassin sent to kill the designer of the Hypercube and since it collapsed upon itself at the end, there was no proof as to what happened.
Yeah. And she commited suicide when she tried bouncing her c.o's bullet off with her head.

A rather silly reason. :(

And since when did that stop any government agency??

And since when did that stop any government agency??
True. But since they have so much time on their hands to come up with stuff like this the least we can expect is a plausible application for the thing.
Something cool. Like, to put an end to the worlds shortage of strawberry icecream or something.

True. But since they have so much time on their hands to come up with stuff like this the least we can expect is a plausible application for the thing.
Something cool. Like, to put an end to the worlds shortage of strawberry icecream or something.you mean you didn't catch the director's edition... it was to protect the Col's secret blend of Herbs and Spices ;)

you mean you didn't catch the director's edition... it was to protect the Col's secret blend of Herbs and Spices ;)
:D :D :D
I thought he was protecting his recipe to boil an egg in 6 minutes.

Which brings us back to Kafka...
I can see the similarities to the Trial.
Not so much The Metamorphosis. :D


spoily white text... but, his superior does say that he has been sentenced to death (or was it life) four times or some such when he is fiddling about with his brain, and so there is the possibility that at that point he has already been through the cube and died at least once, and that the idiot savant from the original film is actually that same character serving another of his sentencesThat actually added an extra dimension of depth to the movies. Thanks, it ties up what I was taking as an underworked ending to Zero.

I can see the similarities to the Trial.
Not so much The Metamorphosis. :D


spoily white text... but, his superior does say that he has been sentenced to death (or was it life) four times or some such when he is fiddling about with his brain, and so there is the possibility that at that point he has already been through the cube and died at least once, and that the idiot savant from the original film is actually that same character serving another of his sentencesThat actually added an extra dimension of depth to the movies. Thanks, it ties up what I was taking as an underworked ending to Zero.[/QUOTE]
Great. Not confusing at all.

Great. Not confusing at all.

Did a hunt around on one of the Cube fansites and found the quote I was looking for "Your sentance has been extended for 2 more life times", and also found that the director has stated thatt Kazan != Wynn.

Did a hunt around on one of the Cube fansites and found the quote I was looking for "Your sentance has been extended for 2 more life times", and also found that the director has stated thatt Kazan != Wynn.
So Whynn died and was ressurected as Kazan? Did he say anything about ressurecting them?

So Whynn died and was ressurected as Kazan? Did he say anything about ressurecting them?

No, you have misunderstood me "!=" here is meant to mean "does not equal" or "is not the same character as".

That sentence looked like a subtle flame, but wasn't intended as such.

Alright. Now there are 3 vague movies if I have ever seen any.
Can anyone tell me why the US government in the movies build those cubes and what what they are good for?

Having seen the first two movies, I have forumulated my own ideas, however I will take a shot at answering your question.

Either: 1. Created them as a prison, and were using smart people to test if group mentality could overcome the prison; or,
2. As a really bad sociology experiment.