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Conservatives please answer

Liberal Robenia
27-03-2005, 09:21
OK, I'm not trying to argue, I just want to learn.

What do you agree with and/or disagree with Bush's presidency, plans, etc? Please explain.. be specific

...and if you could post your Political Compass. Example: My Political Compass Economic Left/Right: -6.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79 (I'm a liberal, heh)

EDIT: In other words, why do you support Bush?
Salvondia
27-03-2005, 09:30
You might want to be a lot more specific with some specific issues and what you think Bush's position on it is. Otherwise I doubt you'll get very many answers.
Reformentia
27-03-2005, 09:43
You might want to be a lot more specific with some specific issues and what you think Bush's position on it is. Otherwise I doubt you'll get very many answers.

I would think the point would be to try to get some handle on what the heck is going on in the head of the people who would vote for him... which would include not only finding out what THEY think his position on issues is but which issues they zero in on all by themselves without slanting the focus of the responses by injecting the thread starter's own opinion before those responses even start coming in.

But maybe that's just me.
Liberal Robenia
27-03-2005, 09:49
I would think the point would be to try to get some handle on what the heck is going on in the head of the people who would vote for him... which would include not only finding out what THEY think his position on issues is but which issues they zero in on all by themselves without slanting the focus of the responses by injecting the thread starter's own opinion before those responses even start coming in.

But maybe that's just me.

Partially :-)
Salvondia
27-03-2005, 09:52
I would think the point would be to try to get some handle on what the heck is going on in the head of the people who would vote for him... which would include not only finding out what THEY think his position on issues is but which issues they zero in on all by themselves without slanting the focus of the responses by injecting the thread starter's own opinion before those responses even start coming in.

But maybe that's just me.

:shrug: I suggested as a way to get more responses. I don't personally feel like opening up a can of worms by going into a topic that has no guiding topic. Thusly I'm not going to bother with explaining why I voted for Bush.
Armed Bookworms
27-03-2005, 10:22
Because he was less sucky than Kerry and, sadly, more honest. Also, I despise George Soros.
Urantia II
27-03-2005, 11:04
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404882

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404171

Regards,
Gaar
Dontgonearthere
27-03-2005, 12:20
My overall position on Bush is...
'meh'
I like some things he does, and I dont like other things he does.
He seems like a fairly average President who got blown out of proportion by stupid 'news' corporations and hysterical pundits who forgot to take their estrogen.
B0zzy
27-03-2005, 14:06
OK, I'm not trying to argue, I just want to learn.

What do you agree with and/or disagree with Bush's presidency, plans, etc? Please explain.. be specific

...and if you could post your Political Compass. Example: My Political Compass Economic Left/Right: -6.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79 (I'm a liberal, heh)

EDIT: In other words, why do you support Bush?

You won't get a political compass from me because the 'test' is so biased and unscientific as to be inconcenquential. Even I would look like a lefty if I answered their leading and often innacurate questions.

Why W? For now he's the closest thing we have to Reagan. He makes promises and keeps them. He is more concerned about what is right than what is popular. He is a WYSIWYG person. He has the balls to take on established inequity (affirm action, high tax, diplomatic pussyfooting, social security reform) His weakness is the refusal to use the veto power and to expend so much effort reaching out to people who won't reach back. I also wish he weren't so aligned with the 'moral majority'. I'd also love to see a prez. with the balls to do a war on pork and waste, but W won't do that. I'd even vote for a green party candidate if that were their honest platform.

Most of all, W is not a Gore, Clinton or Kerry. Which you didn't consider in your original post. W didn't win the election as much as Kerry (not the Democrats as much as Kerry and some far left blowhards) lost it. Democrats now are going even further down the path that has been costing them a majority for decades. Kerry, Gore and Clinton were all weak leaders. There are democrats I would vote for, but none of them are it for varying reasons.

There is also a perk to demonstrating to the world that we don't give a $hit what they want from OUR election. MYOB!
Zooke
27-03-2005, 14:22
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404882

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404171

Regards,
Gaar

ditto

9/11 was a wake up call. We believed ourselves to be safe and in a few minutes found out how horribly vulnerable we were. President Bush declared war on terrorism in the aftermath. He told us it would not end in Afghanistan and that it would take years, but we would prevail. I believed him and he has kept his promise. As I look at the ripples of democracy spreading throughout the mid-east, I can see how President Bush's plans and actions might very well lead to a safer, more unified world for my descendents. The threat of terroristic violence still looms, but we know that we are better prepared than ever before, and there is a clear objective within sight.

My political compass ended up right smack dab in the middle in 2 tests. I took the test once more, a few days later, and I didn't make note of the readings, but I ended up one click left of center.
31
27-03-2005, 14:44
I voted for Bush because he is a leader. People today in many cases have no idea what a leader is supposed to be. They think a leader should follow the popular trend of society "the will of the people" but. . . people in groups are complete idiots. A leader must give the people his/her individual wisdom. If the people don't like this wisdom they are free to vote the person out at the end of their term.
Kerry was not a leader. He was a follower. What are the people for this week, he would mutter to himself. . .how can I sound like them so I can get elected? Bush tells you exactly what he thinks and then, shock and horror, does exactly what he said he would. This just confuses the hell out of people and they interpret it as a sign of stupidity.
Bush is the single most demonized president I have ever seen. I thought Clinton had it rough (and I didn't not care for the man at all) but what has been said about Bush makes what was said about Clinton pale in comparison.
Sorry folks, when viewed from a historical perspective Bush just ain't that bad. In fact, on a scale of world leaders both good and evil he is nowhere near the top in either category. I like him but I also realize he is not great. He is not bad either.
I am very pleased he has had the balls to do his job, look out for the interests of the US. That is the job of the president, US interests, not world interests. If they coincide then that is a happy circumstance.
I found it funny when the world railed against Bush, especially when they called him and idiot cowboy. It really showed me that in fact they were far stupider than he. The more they attacked and vented their hatred the more likely his election became, they shot themselves in the foot all the while patting themselves on the back because they were smarter than the monkey cowboy evil genius.
Wow, that was long. Anyway, he has his second term, calm down and live with it people. You can't do a damn thing to stop it.
Robbopolis
27-03-2005, 20:56
I pretty much agree with his foreign policy ideas, but I don't care for his domestic policy. Things like No Child Left Behind are infringing on local control.