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Sorry, but as I'm staying up and doing work, I decided to have a listen-in on the news.

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:
Join me in boycotting these mockeries of journalism!


*(no, I don't hate corporations - I just really need to use some sort of insult right now to alleviate my sickened feeling)

Sorry, but as I'm staying up and doing work, I decided to have a listen-in on the news.

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:


*(no, I don't hate corporations - I just really need to use some sort of insult right now to alleviate my sickened feeling)

Good for you, then. And, like you, I don't hate *all* corporations, though I must admit that there are many bad ones.

I agree, good for you. :)

I didn't know they were doing 24-hour coverage of Terri Schaivo. How sick and pathetic. :mad:

Good work. I suggest switching to an unbiased news source, such as democracynow or indymedia.

Hehe. ;)

I agree, good for you. :)

I didn't know they were doing 24-hour coverage of Terri Schaivo. How sick and pathetic. :mad:
I'm not sure if it is 24-hr coverage nonstop, however every time I turned to them it was more of the same story

The only way to affect a change in how news is reported is not to watch it. Ratings go down they will change. Way to start a revolt. Hope it works out.

The only way to affect a change in how news is reported is not to watch it. Ratings go down they will change. Way to start a revolt. Hope it works out.

Unless you are one of the 5,000 or so households in the US who is participating in the Nielsen statistical sampling system, you arent affecting ratings.

Sorry, but as I'm staying up and doing work, I decided to have a listen-in on the news.

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:
Join me in boycotting these mockeries of journalism!


*(no, I don't hate corporations - I just really need to use some sort of insult right now to alleviate my sickened feeling)I applaud you. News agencies usually milk everystory for whatever it has, no mind to the truth. Its about ratings.

remember: news is a business.

just like any other business, their number one priority is to make money.

they make money when people watch their show (higher ratings means they can charge more for advertising)

Unless you are one of the 5,000 or so households in the US who is participating in the Nielsen statistical sampling system, you arent affecting ratings.


Don't be so sure. I personally have done neilson twice. Purposely wrote down that I watched public broadcasting channel. Also listed odd ball channels and shows. They probably thought I was nuts.

Don't be so sure. I personally have done neilson twice. Purposely wrote down that I watched public broadcasting channel. Also listed odd ball channels and shows. They probably thought I was nuts.So YOU'RE why reality TV/Gameshow network won't die!

Crucify him! Crucify him!

Sorry, but as I'm staying up and doing work, I decided to have a listen-in on the news.

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:
Join me in boycotting these mockeries of journalism!


*(no, I don't hate corporations - I just really need to use some sort of insult right now to alleviate my sickened feeling)

And the reason why I haven't watch Fox News in awhile. I'm tired of hearing about Shaivo.

Indymedia has a slight liberal bias. Plus, what FNC and CNN are doing is nothing compared to Willian Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer's papers. Look up "yellow journalism" and you'll see that the news back then were more tabloids than facts.

I'm not sure if it is 24-hr coverage nonstop, however every time I turned to them it was more of the same story

It isn't 24 hours but it is close enough.

So YOU'RE why reality TV/Gameshow network won't die!

Crucify him! Crucify him!


Actually I despise gameshows. I never put them down. So hold onto that cross.

I agree, good for you. :)

I didn't know they were doing 24-hour coverage of Terri Schaivo. How sick and pathetic. :mad:


You might think this odd. But I just listened to the CD best of the Smiths. I got that damn girlfriend in a comma song stuck in my head.

Don't be so sure. I personally have done neilson twice. Purposely wrote down that I watched public broadcasting channel. Also listed odd ball channels and shows. They probably thought I was nuts.

Thats not how they get the official ratings. They get the official ratings by installing monitoring devices on your TV and VCR (maybe DVD now too?). If you were contacted by them and they did not install anything, then the research you took part in was not for use on the official TV ratings.

Indymedia has a slight liberal bias. Plus, what FNC and CNN are doing is nothing compared to Willian Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer's papers. Look up "yellow journalism" and you'll see that the news back then were more tabloids than facts.

I would classify the news on CNN and Fox as "Yellow Journalism."

1. The latest on Terri's Feeding Tube! (a nurse touched it :rolleyes: )

2. Michael Jackson accuses his accusers of raping him! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

3. All terra, all teh time!* :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

4. Why Bush's Social Security plans are GOOD for you!* :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

*Mostly confined to Fox. CNN is also guilty of this, but not to the same extent.

Thats not how they get the official ratings. They get the official ratings by installing monitoring devices on your TV and VCR (maybe DVD now too?). If you were contacted by them and they did not install anything, then the research you took part in was not for use on the official TV ratings.


I am old. The ones I did were paper logs. This was in the mid 80's and I did one early in the 90's.

I am old. The ones I did were paper logs. This was in the mid 80's and I did one early in the 90's.

This is how they did it in the 80s too. However, they do compare their participating sample to samples they get from surveys to make sure their current sample really is representative. So, by choosing things that very few people watch, all you did was lead them to believe that the participants they currently have are not that representative and they need to have more participants from you region since you have vastly different viewing habits (assuming your answers werent buried by a ton of more common answers).

You might think this odd. But I just listened to the CD best of the Smiths. I got that damn girlfriend in a comma song stuck in my head.

:D

Great song, though. Could be worse. :D

This is how they did it in the 80s too. However, they do compare their participating sample to samples they get from surveys to make sure their current sample really is representative. So, by choosing things that very few people watch, all you did was lead them to believe that the participants they currently have are not that representative and they need to have more participants from you region since you have vastly different viewing habits (assuming your answers werent buried by a ton of more common answers).

Very possibly so. I don't know much about them other than they do put cash in there envelopes. "For your troubles" Wasn't much really. Thought it was funny.

Sorry, but as I'm staying up and doing work, I decided to have a listen-in on the news.

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:
Join me in boycotting these mockeries of journalism!


*(no, I don't hate corporations - I just really need to use some sort of insult right now to alleviate my sickened feeling)

*looks around*

Yep...just as I thought...

...no one cares...

I wouldn't watch Fox if you paid me. Unless it were a lot. :D

I wouldn't watch Fox if you paid me. Unless it were a lot. :D

Same here, but I'd also need a supply of TV's written into the contract because I couldn't watch for long without throwing something through the screen.

At least you still have MSNBC!

Hey, their ratings just went up 50!%!

Same here, but I'd also need a supply of TV's written into the contract because I couldn't watch for long without throwing something through the screen.
That would actually be a great job. I could destroy a few dozen TV's a day. It could really be very satisfying to throw something large and heavy, especially if you could do it on a couple of channels. I'd love to be able to throw my big marble ashtray at Chris Matthews a few times a day.

You might think this odd. But I just listened to the CD best of the Smiths. I got that damn girlfriend in a comma song stuck in my head.
I thought it was a coma, not a comma! How did she get stuck in one of these ----> , ? :)

Back on topic: It also shows how lazy the networks have become. They can't be bothered going out and trying to find news, so when something like this lands in their lap, they beat it to death until the next 'big' thing comes along.
When was the last time you saw true investigative reporting on CNN or FOX and not this reactive 'news' casting that they do?

Sorry, but as I'm staying up and doing work, I decided to have a listen-in on the news.

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:
Join me in boycotting these mockeries of journalism!


*(no, I don't hate corporations - I just really need to use some sort of insult right now to alleviate my sickened feeling)


Come now, how could a seriously student of journalism have watched either network in the first place?

I assume you live in the US, so you really have no exuse...

The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com

I wouldn't watch Fox if you paid me. Unless it were a lot. :D

I watch FOX in clips from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

FOX can be funny. Many "Great Moments in Punditry." :D

I watch FOX in clips from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

FOX can be funny. Many "Great Moments in Punditry." :D

I'd vote for Jon Stewart for god. With Bill Maher as vice-god. Or maybe the other way around. :D

I'd vote for Jon Stewart for god. With Bill Maher as vice-god. Or maybe the other way around. :D

John Lydon for God, Jon Stewart for Vice-God, and Bill Maher as their Administrator.

At least you still have MSNBC!

Hey, their ratings just went up 50!%!

Proof Please?

Come now, how could a seriously student of journalism have watched either network in the first place?

I assume you live in the US, so you really have no exuse...

The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com

The New York Times? Now there's a paper for ya. To bad they have a conscience problem as well as an integrity problem.

I watch FOX in clips from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

FOX can be funny. Many "Great Moments in Punditry." :D

Are you talking about Fox or Fox News?

They are 2 different stations.

Sorry, but as I'm staying up and doing work, I decided to have a listen-in on the news.

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:
Join me in boycotting these mockeries of journalism!

*(no, I don't hate corporations - I just really need to use some sort of insult right now to alleviate my sickened feeling)
If people weren't interested in this case, the media would soon drop it. But you're right about one thing ... journalists in general are becoming a dispised group.

I declare my boycott of Bild, the super-popular newspaper for subintelligent Germans.

Are you talking about Fox or Fox News?

They are 2 different stations.

I thought the context of this discussion was clear. Fox News.

Fox News is funny -- at least as made fun of by Jon Stewart.

Relax a little. ;)

I thought the context of this discussion was clear. Fox News.

Fox News is funny -- at least as made fun of by Jon Stewart.

Relax a little. ;)

Oh it is obvious but they are 2 different stations and it should be told that they are 2 different stations.

Sorry but gaar ignored my question as he usually does. :D

I don't watch either channel.

Might be 'cause I don't have cable.

CNN- ratings hawks
Fox- biased, really biased
MSNBC- don't know what the hell they're doing
FSTV- the leftist version of Fox
Comedy Central- truthful and only has 30 minutes of news a day
All of the above including ABC, NBC, and CBS are two-sided (only think in terms of Democrat and Republican), Comedy Central to some extent, but hey its Comedy central.

The New York Times? Now there's a paper for ya. To bad they have a conscience problem as well as an integrity problem.


Jayson Blair? Who was fired, along with the editor?

The Times learned its lesson from that minor hack -

as bill keller best put it: "Dont hire sociopathic liars."


And as for a conscience problem(?) - they may not have reported on the leadup to the iraq invasion as well as they ought to have, but they did put out a mea culpa.

Jayson Blair? Who was fired, along with the editor?

The Times learned its lesson from that minor hack -

as bill keller best put it: "Dont hire sociopathic liars."

Meh, I still don't trust them and besides, their subscription numbers have declined in recent years.

I hate it when "news" channels cover anything related to celebrities. It really sickens me.

Also, when they find some random kidnapping victim to turn into a national story overnight. Notice that all of their kidnapping victims are white? Usually rich? What about the countless minorities who suffer kidnappings and other crimes?

Oversimplification of complex issues like the economy and foreign policy.

Reinforcement of the dualist political system (democrat/republican)

Ignoring positive important stories (i.e. elections in Afghanistan) in favor of something negative, gorey, scandalous, unimportant, or something else I complained about already.

Being far too influential in the elections.

Relentlessly pursuing family members of victims of some sort, just to get the emotional ratings perk of having people break down on national TV.

PUNDITS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND JUST WANT TO GET VIEWERS BY SENSATIONALIZING EVERYTHING!!!

^^CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!!!
CRUCIFY THEM CRUCIFY THEM!!!

At least you still have MSNBC!

Hey, their ratings just went up 50!%!

Yes, they went from 2 people watching to 3

Yes, they went from 2 people watching to 3That's precisely what I meant. MSNBC is tiny compared to the other 24-hour news outlets. It gives me a little chuckle to know that trite sarcasm needs fact-checking too. :cool:

As I'm flipping past CNN and FOX I realize that they've totally de-humanized the Terri Schaivo story - their 24 hour coverage has resulted in the most outrageous treatment of the story, trying to find *some* new angle as to fill every nook and cranny of their 24-hour broadcast.

As an aspiring journalist, it sickens me. Damn corporate* media, making my potential occupation one of the most distrusted jobs in America :mad:
Join me in boycotting these mockeries of journalism!

I congratulate you for your boycott of a liberal and a conservative news network. You are an equal opportunity boycotter. Good luck with your chosen career and I hope you will prove to be a truly fair and balanced journalist.

Indymedia has a slight liberal bias.
Liberal? They're a (more or less self-declared) communist news service!

You might think this odd. But I just listened to the CD best of the Smiths. I got that damn girlfriend in a comma song stuck in my head.
They're a great band. You should get The Queen is Dead. It's their best album IMO.