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I was looking at some threads, and I got a very interesting question pop into my head: If an armada of Aliens attacked the Earth, chances of us winning is 445,778 to 1. I might be overestimating us, but that's what the statistics say. Reasons?

1. They have perfected a trivial challenge of space. While we're spazzing out at the next rocket launch they have an entire army in space. DIRECT ADVANTAGE.

2. They are very powerful. Deduce the logical facts. To get the first reason working, you'd have to have some kind of massive power source to construct the fleet. Whether they're psychic and can mind-control or are incredibly strong, anyways, we're screwed again.

3. They most likely are united. Now, this one might be wrong, since I don't know how aliens think, but most likely for them to come and conquer us, they must have traveled a fair distance for a fair time, meaning they probably already have their people united, otherwise they'd still be fighting a civil war or something and be too busy to attack us. And here we are fighting each other for oil.

4. The automatic offensive advantage. We probably won't see them coming, since many people don't believe in aliens.

5. The only thing that can hit their fleets from space probably would be nuclear missiles, and we gotta ask ourselves: do we want constant nuclear winters? Face it; there are many bullets that can fly right up to space. In fact, I don't think there are any.

6. Communications Interception. They most likely have a type of communication to figure out what our transmissions are. It's not that hard. If hackers could do it, then so could they.

7. Imagine Metropolis in Halo 2, without the Master Chief. We're screwed.

8. Because I said so. You don't have to take my word, but it's your loss.

*OUR ADVANTAGES*

1. We have EMP weapons that could fry their technology...unless they do it first.

Think about it. We'd lose.

What's this 'we' shit? I'll be the first to welcome our new supreme overlords.

:D

What's this 'we' shit? I'll be the first to welcome our new supreme overlords.

:D

Until they made you into snack sticks.

Hey, we're screwed even if no aliens every show up.

This is exactly why I have signaled my Overlords to commence the attack at sundown, Quaruk'fkaklwlwofdl the third equinox behind Lumfr'rrrrrrrr the second.

As one of their observers here on earth I can assure you they won't invade. Trust me.

What's this 'we' shit? I'll be the first to welcome our new supreme overlords.

:D


They're not even here yet, and you're already sucking up??

LOL

If aliens attacked Earth?
We already did. We won too.


To stay on topic, a quote from Arthur C. Clarke:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
The aliens might be able to wipe us out with will alone, with the massively advanced technologies they might have.

If they are hostile, I am fairly sure we would all be dead, either way.

Exactly. See?

If aliens came I would quickly ingest whatever is left of my stash and go hide. You know we'd probably be killed. Or enslaved. And I know I have no good slavin' qualities so I'm particularly screwed.

Same here. Actually, I'd get someone to shoot me in the head. I won't do it myself since I'll go to hell. :(

Looking at your #3 point.

Look at us, in the beginning we were always at war (think way back), we still are at war a lot. Total peace isn't going to happen anytime soon. With their supreme technology most likely they will get nervous at one another, I'm sure they have plenty of their own wars.

I believe that the Aliens would be united in some way to come and destroy/invade us. If not, then they'd probably die on the way due to sabotage. It's a desperate alliance against a common foe!

But anyways if they came, yes we'd probably be screwed. The other day I was asking my friends
"If the world would end tomorrow, what would you do with your last day?"
One said he'd get extremely drunk, the other said he'd sit around at home with his family or go to a church. The third couldn't come up with an idea. Myself, what would I do with my last day? I don't know what I'd do, there'd really be no reason to panic since there would be no chance of stopping it. I assume I'd do something inventive with my last day, that or something adventerous. In the least I'd say with the last few hours I'd play chess with myself.

I believe that the Aliens would be united in some way to come and destroy/invade us. If not, then they'd probably die on the way due to sabotage. It's a desperate alliance against a common foe!
But however, if they were all united, why would they come after primitive Earth to destroy us?

But however, if they were all united, why would they come after primitive Earth to destroy us?

1. Because we are not them.
2. Because if you wait long enough, we would be a threat to them.

But however, if they were all united, why would they come after primitive Earth to destroy us?
Because we are religious fundamentalists with WMD.

1. Because we are not them.
2. Because if you wait long enough, we would be a threat to them.
Well think about it, we are all one race, human. We have wars with each other, I'm sure not every single planet out there is home to the same alien race that all get along. Point is, they are not one of them either. They are most likely all different, and racism is still a problem on Earth. Think what it'd be like between a group of different species?

And also, if they want to stop us because we would become a threat to them, wouldn't they want to blow up each other because they are all a potential threat to each other?

And also, if they want to stop us because we would become a threat to them, wouldn't they want to blow up each other because they are all a potential threat to each other?

Yes.

And any technology capable of generating the energy necessary to travel from one star system to another, whether by direct flight at relativistic speeds, or by forming wormholes, will have sufficient energy to do neat things like vaporize planets instantly.

So, any starfaring civilization will be a potentially lethal threat to its neighbors. If you took the chance that your neighbors were peaceful, and you turned out to be wrong, you would cease to exist.

So you can't afford to be wrong.

If you assume that the same rules apply to your neighbors, it would be to your advantage to stomp them out as soon as you picked up their initial radio broadcasts as they rose through their initial atomic age - and vaporize them before they achieved star travel.

Because we are religious fundamentalists with WMD.

OMFG!!! Reborn Christians (a.k.a. people who are in charge in America) are aliens??? I already thought Bush was a bit wierd... :eek:

But we'd be toast if the aliens would attack us. But why would they? Its quite a long way and If I would be a alien who was pumped up and armed I'll get so bored during the trip i would kil some buddies :D

Yes.

And any technology capable of generating the energy necessary to travel from one star system to another, whether by direct flight at relativistic speeds, or by forming wormholes, will have sufficient energy to do neat things like vaporize planets instantly.

So, any starfaring civilization will be a potentially lethal threat to its neighbors. If you took the chance that your neighbors were peaceful, and you turned out to be wrong, you would cease to exist.

So you can't afford to be wrong.

If you assume that the same rules apply to your neighbors, it would be to your advantage to stomp them out as soon as you picked up their initial radio broadcasts as they rose through their initial atomic age - and vaporize them before they achieved star travel.

Then according to you, if they are willing to destroy us so early, they'd all be at each others throats. Becuase if they think we will be a threat, and if they have the technology to vaporize other planets, then they'd be in a constant war. Everyone would be frying each other because of some small mistake, radical groups, terrorists, something or other would set it off.

I personally don't think they'd bother with us becuase we still have quite a while to go.

It'd be like us wiping out all small tribes in africa that only have spears, because they will eventually become a threat.

Maybe Vietnam would defeat them....it DOES have a history of defeating enemies that are MUCH more powerful than them.(Mongolian Empire, China, France, United States)

The difference is that even with thermonuclear weapons on earth, it still takes quite a few on sophisticated weapons to wipe out someone's country. But that doesn't stop us from subjugating them, invading them, telling them how to live, and when they do become a WMD threat, bombing them and replacing their government.

In the star travel technology, a single weapon - a single ship - would be capable of vaporizing an entire planet all at once. Even if your civilization is spread over a few habitable worlds, you can't survive an attack by several ships.

The threat is far more imbalancing than the one we face on this planet.

OMFG!!! Reborn Christians (a.k.a. people who are in charge in America) are aliens??? I already thought Bush was a bit wierd... :eek:

But we'd be toast if the aliens would attack us. But why would they? Its quite a long way and If I would be a alien who was pumped up and armed I'll get so bored during the trip i would kil some buddies :D
No, I meant the aliens would attack earth because our planet is infested with religious fundamentalists who have WMDs.

NEWSFLASH

President Bush has just ordered the beginning of the campaign against African tribesmen on the pretext of pre-emptive removal of a threat to US national security.

Condi Rice was quoted as: "The lesson from the North Korean, French, and New Zealand campaigns is clear. If you let hysterical anti-US sentiments get out of control, then the United States is in real trouble. We went in before they had the chance to form an opinion; and now the African tribespeople can look forward to democracy and freedom, after we sign over control of any potential money-spinner to Haliburton".

NEWSFLASH

President Bush has just ordered the beginning of the campaign against African tribesmen on the pretext of pre-emptive removal of a threat to US national security.

Condi Rice was quoted as: "The lesson from the North Korean, French, and New Zealand campaigns is clear. If you let hysterical anti-US sentiments get out of control, then the United States is in real trouble. We went in before they had the chance to form an opinion; and now the African tribespeople can look forward to democracy and freedom, after we sign over control of any potential money-spinner to Haliburton".
LOL! Bravo! Bravo!

*cheers*

If aliens attacked earth, they are the stupidest aliens ever.
Intelligent aliens would have scouted earth first. They would have determined that
1- Earth's resources (ores and such) are pretty pitiful compared to plenty of non-habitable rocks out there. Water's about the biggest commodity and taking too much would kill the planet.
2- The inhabitants all already killing themselves off. It'll save loads of effort to just wait for the humans to reduce themselves to insignificance.
3- If the humans can survive themselves and acheive spacetravel, thier tenaciousness and creativity are better assets as an ally than an enemy.

If aliens attacked earth, they are the stupidest aliens ever.
Intelligent aliens would have scouted earth first. They would have determined that
1- Earth's resources (ores and such) are pretty pitiful compared to plenty of non-habitable rocks out there. Water's about the biggest commodity and taking too much would kill the planet.
2- The inhabitants all already killing themselves off. It'll save loads of effort to just wait for the humans to reduce themselves to insignificance.
3- If the humans can survive themselves and acheive spacetravel, thier tenaciousness and creativity are better assets as an ally than an enemy.

You're kinda forgetting the fact that Humanity does have a nature of being kinda racist towards things. I highly doubt, as 'civilized' as we seem to be, that many people would agree to the idea of aliens as an ally. I believe most people would, if they could, try and conquer them instead.

The scenario if an alien fleet to invade or attack earth is mostly like if some scouts or explorers come to earth as a trip, where they offer brotherhood and the like. Us humans, being genocidal maniacs most of us are, will probably kill or banish them from ever coming back to earth. Think of the ratings we would get when they return to their homeworld. It's 10 ballistics up!

No, but seriously, if aliens came and needed water, they probably would bleed the whole planet dry. I highly they would care, since if they have no water (most likely, unless their conservatives) on their home planet, they wouldn't give much of a shit about what happens to us. It's like Europeans enslaving the Africans during the Exploration periods. They didn't give a damn about Africa.

I sincerely doubt any intelligence is going to get itself very far out of a gravity well if it has a propensity to bring weapons with it where ever it goes. Or bodies, for that matter... :rolleyes:

pfffffff I would totaly kick their asses. (blows up bicep ballons) yea im ready for 'em

I was looking at some threads, and I got a very interesting question pop into my head: If an armada of Aliens attacked the Earth, chances of us winning is 445,778 to 1. I might be overestimating us, but that's what the statistics say. Reasons?

1. They have perfected a trivial challenge of space. While we're spazzing out at the next rocket launch they have an entire army in space. DIRECT ADVANTAGE.

2. They are very powerful. Deduce the logical facts. To get the first reason working, you'd have to have some kind of massive power source to construct the fleet. Whether they're psychic and can mind-control or are incredibly strong, anyways, we're screwed again.

3. They most likely are united. Now, this one might be wrong, since I don't know how aliens think, but most likely for them to come and conquer us, they must have traveled a fair distance for a fair time, meaning they probably already have their people united, otherwise they'd still be fighting a civil war or something and be too busy to attack us. And here we are fighting each other for oil.

4. The automatic offensive advantage. We probably won't see them coming, since many people don't believe in aliens.

5. The only thing that can hit their fleets from space probably would be nuclear missiles, and we gotta ask ourselves: do we want constant nuclear winters? Face it; there are many bullets that can fly right up to space. In fact, I don't think there are any.

6. Communications Interception. They most likely have a type of communication to figure out what our transmissions are. It's not that hard. If hackers could do it, then so could they.

7. Imagine Metropolis in Halo 2, without the Master Chief. We're screwed.

8. Because I said so. You don't have to take my word, but it's your loss.

*OUR ADVANTAGES*

1. We have EMP weapons that could fry their technology...unless they do it first.

Think about it. We'd lose.

Stating the obvious are we? :D

Why would they travel billions of miles to attack a planet which is so overrun they would either have to kill every one or be friends....if they did try to kill every one one of the leader's of the world would just say "if we are going down im gonna make sure you dont get anything out of it....winston press the red button........................ *push* silence :D

If aliens attacked earth, they are the stupidest aliens ever.
Intelligent aliens would have scouted earth first. They would have determined that
1- Earth's resources (ores and such) are pretty pitiful compared to plenty of non-habitable rocks out there. Water's about the biggest commodity and taking too much would kill the planet.
2- The inhabitants all already killing themselves off. It'll save loads of effort to just wait for the humans to reduce themselves to insignificance.
3- If the humans can survive themselves and acheive spacetravel, thier tenaciousness and creativity are better assets as an ally than an enemy.

What alien in its right mind would have anything to do with Earth?

The planet is poluted, every resource has been depleted or ruined, the main 'intellegent' species is highly genocidal and ridiculously techincolically primative. This planet is simply not worth much of a second glance.

In fact, Earth would be the much talked about classic episode on the Intergalatic Entertainment Broadcast Systems' hit show: "When Good Planets Go Bad" as one of the worst examples of a planet so full of themselves.

Face it folks, we are the Ghettos of the Galaxy.

If anything, they'd pop down now and then and buzz the locals, maybe do an odd 'abduction' for a bit of Saturday nite fun as their version of 'cow-tipping'.

Sheesh.

the chances of aliens finding earth and then even making it here are virtually nil. Our nearest neigbor in terms of stars is the alpha centauri cluster- 4.3 lightyears away.

There may be aliens out there, since there are somewhere between 100-400 billion stars in the our solar system alone, and ours is only 1 of 140,000,000,000 galaxies. But given the incomprehensible vastness of space, the chances of them picking out our little solar system to attack our planet are just so small that its not worth worrying about it.

Then again americas youth has played enough halo to counter anything they can throw at us. or maybe they can't get wet, like in signs.

I guess probably they'd do a scourge and try to rebuild the world as they seem fit.

Because we are religious fundamentalists with WMD.

You don't think the aliens would be religious fundamentalists with WMDs? Have you ever heard of the covnenant?

anyways, we'd win. because some other aliens would act as an intervention force to save our little asses and kick the bad guys' (if they have asses)

Yeah, we're humans. We have the odd victory now and then. What do they have? NOTHING! Except for possibly superior weaponry and natural powers...but let's ignore that listen to hollywood where a cheap ending comes to save us!

What alien in its right mind would have anything to do with Earth?
Who knows?
We cannot possibly understand the way an alien would think, as it could be entirely, well, alien to us.

if aliens attacked, i'd screw everything in sight.

if aliens attacked, i'd screw everything in sight.


This is the most distressing thing I have ever heard.... LOL

if aliens attacked, i'd screw everything in sight.

That is something left private...the fate of others is not to be public... ;)

oh, and my last words would be

"I see a beautiful city and a brilliant people rising from this abyss, and, in their struggles to be truly free, in their triumphs and defeats, through long years to come, I see the evil of this time and of the previous time of which this is the natural birth, gradually making expiation for itself and wearing out....

I see that child who lay upon her bosom and who bore my name, a man winning his way up in that path of life which once was mine. I see him winning it so well, that my name is made illustrious there by the light of his....

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known."

oh, and my last words would be

"I see a beautiful city and a brilliant people rising from this abyss, and, in their struggles to be truly free, in their triumphs and defeats, through long years to come, I see the evil of this time and of the previous time of which this is the natural birth, gradually making expiation for itself and wearing out....

I see that child who lay upon her bosom and who bore my name, a man winning his way up in that path of life which once was mine. I see him winning it so well, that my name is made illustrious there by the light of his....

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known."

That's nice. Mine would be 'We obviously lose."

interesting points... but did you read the story called the road not taken, in Harry Turtledove's book Kaleidoscope? a vast alien armada comes in to take over Earth... they have FTL and perfected spacetravel... however their weapons consist of blackpowder rifles because they devoted all their discoveries not for making war, but space travel. the story is two aliens sitting in an Earth Military Prision trying to figure out what went wrong. they realized that Earth devoted their scientific advances to warfare while they did not. and they realize the horror they unleashed upon the stars for now the Terrans have both their own technology for war and now the technology for perfect star travel.

as written in the Man-Kitzi wars... "they soon found out why Men don't practice War anymore. It's because they were Very, Very Good at it."

we'd be scwered, even if there were no aliens, ever heard of the time they did a radio play of "War Of The Worlds"? PEOPLE WERE FRIGG'N KILL'N THEM SELVES 'CUS SOME BRAVE SOULS DICIDED TO HAVE A BIT OF FUN! But back to the subject, ya we'd be screwed 'cus the aliens would have some sorta death ray of some sort.

only way we'd win is if we had arnold swartzinager and RAMBO fighting the aliens

It really dpeends on the alien's stratagy. Orbital bombardment, they obviously win. We lack weapons that could even hit them.
On the other hand, if their goal is occupation a ground war is necessary. That would be very very bloody. Our regular forces would lose to their supperior technology, but they would never be able to suppress the geurilla resistance fighters. In the end, its a draw.

One thing, if aliens were so advanced, why would they attack us? An extremely advanced race would find no need for war or invasion, if they did then we'd probably already have been screwed over by now. This whole discussion is pointless!

One thing, if aliens were so advanced, why would they attack us? An extremely advanced race would find no need for war or invasion, if they did then we'd probably already have been screwed over by now. This whole discussion is pointless!
But how do you know that they wouldn't?
You don't.
Aliens, being aliens, may think in ways we cannot conceive of. We cannot claim to have even the weakest inkling of how they would react in situations or what they would believe about things.

Most likely reason for an outside force to terminate humans? To spare the galaxy an intergalactic headache. Things aren't exactly peachy here are they?

only way we'd win is if we had arnold swartzinager and RAMBO fighting the aliensand let's not forget Apple computers... incompatable with everything on earth but will interface with an alien computer within seconds.

So?

We'd make great pets! :D

Porno for Pyros, Pets:

children are innocent
a teenager's fucked up in the head
adults are even more fucked up
and elderlies are like children

will there be another race
to come along and take over for us?
maybe martians could do
better than we've done
we'd make great pets!

my frend says we're like the dinosaurs
only we are doing ourselves in
much faster than they
ever did
we'll make great pets!

What's this 'we' shit? I'll be the first to welcome our new supreme overlords.

:D

I x that, being I havn't seen the number of agreers.

It really dpeends on the alien's stratagy. Orbital bombardment, they obviously win. We lack weapons that could even hit them.
On the other hand, if their goal is occupation a ground war is necessary. That would be very very bloody. Our regular forces would lose to their supperior technology, but they would never be able to suppress the geurilla resistance fighters. In the end, its a draw.

Yes, A ground war on our turf would be bloody indeed. This is why I don't think any right minded alien civ would try and do it. They just need to watch our media to see how crazy we are. Plus I'm sure we are much more of a tourist attraction then a target of extermination. Would explain alot of UFO sightings. Kind of like cosmic tour busses. All the flashing strobes being camera flashes. LOL, I think I just figured out our Alien mystery!

That's nice. Mine would be 'We obviously lose."

I would quote Jeff Albertson.

"Ohhhhhh I wasted my life..."

Why would they even bother? All they'd have to do is sit back and wait for us to destroy ourselves first. Besides, we've already used up most of the resources on our rock... except for the vast amounts of liquid oxy-hydrogen. But we've managed to contaminate that enough that they probably wouldn't want it anyways.

If aliens were to ever make it to earth, they probably have a reason for coming here. It's not going to be resources. In the big scope of things, humans haven't really made that much of a scratch in the planet. I'm not saying that pollution is no problem, I'm saying that the only reason we see things like this is because of our personal ego. There really isn't enough energy on the earth to make a trip here worth it, and I doubt we have any materials that couldn't be found elsewhere or synthesized somehow.

Perhaps the aliens just want to kill us for fun. This is also pretty unlikely. If a society is so philosophically backwards that it goes around knocking off other species just for the heck of it, then it's unlikely that they could stay together long enough to invent too much of anything.

The only thing they could really want from us would be information. If that happens, then we'll probably only know they're there if they want us to know it. If they do, they'll likely have it very well thought out how to disrupt our lives in the least way possible. To conclude, don't bother worrying about it.

I for one do not believe that god put us here to die to the threat of some extra terrestial beings. I belive that if the jewish people could survive Babylon, Mesopatamia, Egypt, Rome, and the Holocaust that we can survive against any threat.

If not then i would say stick your head between your legs and kiss your @ss good bye

Perhaps the aliens just want to kill us for fun. This is also pretty unlikely. If a society is so philosophically backwards that it goes around knocking off other species just for the heck of it, then it's unlikely that they could stay together long enough to invent too much of anything.
Perhaps the species could have an innate drive to destroy all other species, and only other species? I see no reason why that couldn't happen.

Perhaps the species could have an innate drive to destroy all other species, and only other species? I see no reason why that couldn't happen.

Yes much like in Independence Day. That type of species could be out there.

Perhaps the species could have an innate drive to destroy all other species, and only other species? I see no reason why that couldn't happen.

Perhaps. But still, it's biting a bullet. Can you imagine a group of people that dedicated to creating that kind of technology just for the purpose of seeing if there is something they can destroy? It's like sailing to Austraila to see if there are any anthills you can dig up.

I'd bet the most likely scenario would be that aliens came upon Earth by accident. They'd be explorers exploring the galaxy and just happen to discover a planet with sentient life on it. They'd look for a good place to land and make first contact; ironically it would probably be Rosswell, New Mexico. After landing in the desert they'd walk up to the town, and the people would go crazy. After a few days the FBI, CIA, and all the other three letter organizations would be involved. The conservative half of the nation will want to send the aliens packing, and will eventually get Bush to nuke their landing ship. Thus America seals its (and the rest of the world's) own doom, since the aliens will undoubtedly retaliate, and it will be all the republicans' fault.

Perhaps the species could have an innate drive to destroy all other species, and only other species? I see no reason why that couldn't happen.

Any species which has such a natural drive is going to have to be able to fill in all the necessary roles of the eco-system taken up by other species or else it is going to find itself in big trouble: from an evolutionary standpoint it makes little sense.

I'd bet the most likely scenario would be that aliens came upon Earth by accident. They'd be explorers exploring the galaxy and just happen to discover a planet with sentient life on it. They'd look for a good place to land and make first contact; ironically it would probably be Rosswell, New Mexico. After landing in the desert they'd walk up to the town, and the people would go crazy. After a few days the FBI, CIA, and all the other three letter organizations would be involved. The conservative half of the nation will want to send the aliens packing, and will eventually get Bush to nuke their landing ship. Thus America seals its (and the rest of the world's) own doom, since the aliens will undoubtedly retaliate, and it will be all the republicans' fault.

Did you steal this from CH??

LOL

Did you steal this from CH??

LOL


Who? Um... As far as I know I didn't steal it from anybody, just put down what I thought. Sorry if I playgerized.

I was looking at some threads, and I got a very interesting question pop into my head: If an armada of Aliens attacked the Earth, chances of us winning is 445,778 to 1. I might be overestimating us, but that's what the statistics say. Reasons?

1. They have perfected a trivial challenge of space. While we're spazzing out at the next rocket launch they have an entire army in space. DIRECT ADVANTAGE.

2. They are very powerful. Deduce the logical facts. To get the first reason working, you'd have to have some kind of massive power source to construct the fleet. Whether they're psychic and can mind-control or are incredibly strong, anyways, we're screwed again.

3. They most likely are united. Now, this one might be wrong, since I don't know how aliens think, but most likely for them to come and conquer us, they must have traveled a fair distance for a fair time, meaning they probably already have their people united, otherwise they'd still be fighting a civil war or something and be too busy to attack us. And here we are fighting each other for oil.

4. The automatic offensive advantage. We probably won't see them coming, since many people don't believe in aliens.

5. The only thing that can hit their fleets from space probably would be nuclear missiles, and we gotta ask ourselves: do we want constant nuclear winters? Face it; there are many bullets that can fly right up to space. In fact, I don't think there are any.

6. Communications Interception. They most likely have a type of communication to figure out what our transmissions are. It's not that hard. If hackers could do it, then so could they.

7. Imagine Metropolis in Halo 2, without the Master Chief. We're screwed.

8. Because I said so. You don't have to take my word, but it's your loss.

*OUR ADVANTAGES*

1. We have EMP weapons that could fry their technology...unless they do it first.

Think about it. We'd lose.

The items you are missing:

1. The first tactic they would do would be an orbital bombardment, preferably from high orbit.

2. Nukes, while amazingly hard to hit, have no chance against an alien armada in space smart enough to install advance targetting computers.

3. Any race in space would require EMP protection just in case of ion storms or other related hazards.

4. We would see them comming, as FTL travel inside solar systems is inherently stupid and we have enough people who do believe in aliens searching for proof of their belief to spot them.

5. Due to our assumption we should try to talk first, #4 is more of a disadvantage than an advantage.

The items you are missing:

1. The first tactic they would do would be an orbital bombardment, preferably from high orbit.

2. Nukes, while amazingly hard to hit, have no chance against an alien armada in space smart enough to install advance targetting computers.

3. Any race in space would require EMP protection just in case of ion storms or other related hazards.

4. We would see them comming, as FTL travel inside solar systems is inherently stupid and we have enough people who do believe in aliens searching for proof of their belief to spot them.

5. Due to our assumption we should try to talk first, #4 is more of a disadvantage than an advantage.

Depends on their battle rules, and how much they believe we are a threat. Good points, though.

we have an enormous population advantage, the people would fight the aliens,
and whos to say thier hostile, they have one planet why need 2
i would invite peaceful aliens though

and all i can think of is on futurama when they attack the big balls, and when they go to the planet of robots, or scary movie three
EDIT again

Then again americas youth has played enough halo to counter anything they can throw at us. or maybe they can't get wet, like in signs.
i have to say, we have seen so many aliens movies we know how to combat most species. and the aliens would be pretty screwed if they cant come into contact with moisture, after all its the basis of life on this planet.

Anyone seen 'Babylon 5: In the Beginning'? It's about the Earth-Minbari war; its the 23rd century, Humanity has had space travel for some time (Can't remember exactly how long), but the Minbari have had it for over 1000 years. We end up going to war because of misunderstanding, and they kick our asses right the hell across the Galaxy back to Earth. (They surrender at the last battle despite their imminent victory, but the reasons for this are a big point of the show so I won't go into it.) But we still fight, and we still resist, and... eh, you just have to watch the scene were Mollari is talking about our resolution and nobility to understand where I'm coming from here.

Basically, even if aliens did attack, they'd not have an easy fight. Moreover, in terms of space, two hundred years is a very short time, but in technological terms it is a very short time. Literally every decade that pases we'll have more chance of surviving.

I'm not sure they'd out-and-out attack, though. I can't proclaim to be some sort of xenopsychic, but there just doesn't seem to be much reason to travel out to this rock at the end of the galaxy. I mean sure, 6 billion slaves sounds cool, but then you have to think about how many of those would revolt, how many would attempt to kill their leaders, and how many would be involved in resisting in the first place - you could half that number, and I don't know how alien economies work, but I'm not sure a massive space armada would be particularly cheap. And how many men could they ship anyway? How many might they have to be deploying to other places, and leaving on their own planets? Because if they're a peaceful race they're unlikely to be out after us, but if they're warlike who's to say they're not already at war with other species?

'Course, if it's the Martians, we can just play some Walt Whitman and explode their heads :D

Until they made you into snack sticks.

Hey, we're screwed even if no aliens every show up.

I'm far too entertaining to eat.

Besides, lord only knows where I've been! :eek:

Just don't commit thought-crimes againt Overlord Zargrax, or you'll be sent to the toxic penal planet of Truclyyn-9.

If aliens ever came to destroy Earth, I would just hitch a ride on one of thier ships. It might be a little difficult since I don't own a sub-etha sens-o-matic, or whatever it's called... how many people even know what I'm refering to here?

If aliens ever came to destroy Earth, I would just hitch a ride on one of thier ships. It might be a little difficult since I don't own a sub-etha sens-o-matic, or whatever it's called... how many people even know what I'm refering to here?

Even if that worked, you'd never be able to have a cup of tea again. Is survival really worth that?

If aliens ever came to destroy Earth, I would just hitch a ride on one of thier ships. It might be a little difficult since I don't own a sub-etha sens-o-matic, or whatever it's called... how many people even know what I'm refering to here?you could always waive your Towel... of course then you'll probably have to put up with some poetry...

All of you are forgetting the Gordon Freeman factor; basically if something like this happens, a strange time-travelling man with a lisp will awaken the one man army in an orange powersuit at exactly the right time and place to defeat the aliens. Probably when they're on the can.

A recurring thing that came up earlier on in this thread was "How would aliens be united and still aggresive?"
Sorry if this was answered, but maybe they simple wiped out their opposition on the homeworld, then took off after everyone else in the galaxy.

Also, never mind about vapourising planets, with that much energy to travel the stars etc, they could quite easily disrupte the suns magnetic field, and BOOM, the sun goes nova and roasts everything in the solar system.
With our entire solar system reduced to an expanding sphere of gas and rubble (Earth itself a iron/nickle smudge movign at 1/2 light speed) not many humans would survive...

I don’t think aliens will ever come to earth because;

If they were an aggressive paranoid race then they would already have the things we have today such as the nuclear deterrence, i.e. the ability to destroy there home world.

They would only have ventured to the stars because they had to, i.e. resource gathering because their home world is exhausted of resources (metals.)*

Now metals they would find in space in asteroid fields and other planets with in their home solar system.

Interstellar travel at a speed close to or faster than light would need a computer/ ship systems that could detect the tiniest object at a ridiculously long range to give the ship time to stop/avoid the object so I think they would have to be extremely advanced.

So describing the alien race as us (aggressive and paranoid and with the ability to obliterate themselves, which they haven’t done) and then given an extra, oh lets say, a thousand years to develop interstellar travel, why then would they come here ? a planet that is exactly the same as theirs a thousand years ago, especially if they know that we are a race just like theirs (from scout missions, which as a technologically advanced militaristic race they would have sent) with the ability to destroy itself, which when faced with an over whelming invasion from space, I don’t think anyone will be thinking much about the next generation growing up on an irradiated rock, launch nuclear missiles and drop nuclear bombs to halt the invading soldiers

I think their most likely course will be diplomatic, if they even want to come here I mean would you want to spend time in a cave eating a freshly killed sabre-tooth tiger or woolly mammoth.

* I am assuming they don’t use fossil fuels any more

Good points everyone, but I still believe we're screwed.