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Simple question - what part of your life would you like the government to control?

Social? Or Economic? How bout both?

BTW, socialism involves government economic control, so all you lefties better not choose 'neither'

Neither!

Economic. I'd very much like my money to go towards helping the less fortunate.

Super-power, I'd like to stage a coup and make you President. Interested?

I call vice president if you do.

Hmm . . . I'd better start assembling my cabinet :D

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you can determine all this by looking at people's political compasses.

Hmm . . . I'd better start assembling my cabinet :D

Assign Dogburg and Superpower07 (unless he's your puppet) to your cabinet.

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you can determine all this by looking at people's political compasses.
I know - however I thought I'd start a thread with a title like that so I'd touch a nerve or two

I mean, all the socialists I've talked to never say (in simple plain language) that they want the government controlling their economic lives.

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you can determine all this by looking at people's political compasses.

True, but they probably want a topic so they can passively flame us.

I feel that business must be regulated in a limited sense so it does not grow out of control...Everything else leave it be.

Why isn't this poll public?

I mean, all the socialists I've talked to never say (in simple plain language) that they want the government controlling their economic lives.


i appear to be one out of two people who voted that way, though

besides, the moral axis test is better overall

moral order = social issues

moral rules = economic issues

negative = less control , positive= more

Why isn't this poll public?

Yeah, why isn't it? :mad:

*Pelts Super-power with eggs*

i appear to be one out of two people who voted that way, though

besides, the moral axis test is better overall

I voted for economic control. And the Political Compass and Moral Axis tests used in conjunction are perfect.

How about making sure the hookers are clean?

Ok

Neither!

Economic. I'd very much like my money to go towards helping the less fortunate.
Donate to the charity of your choice, you do not have the right to make that decision for others.

Donate to the charity of your choice, you do not have the right to make that decision for others.

*Applause*

Super-power! Appoint this man to your cabinet!

You should re-do this thread, and make the poll public.

Yeah, why isn't it?

*Pelts Super-power with eggs*
Oops I forgot to make it public!
*catches each egg w/o breaking them*
Anybody up for an omelette?

*appoints Armed Bookworms*
(BTW Roach-Busters, Superpower07 was my original nation - I still keep it around but I just post on this one now)

I voted for economic control. And the Political Compass and Moral Axis tests used in conjunction are perfect.


you also seem to be in the same quadrants as me on both.

GJ!

BTW, socialism involves government economic control

false

false

True. That's the definition of socialism.

Neither. My business is my own unless through action I cause harm.

Economic. I'd very much like my money to go towards helping the less fortunate.

You know, most people would interpret that as sarcasm. (Which it should be. As Armed Bookworms said, it is your choice.)

True. That's the definition of socialism.

that'd be news to proudhon or bakunin or tucker or kropotkin or malatesta or myself, or any of the other anti-state socialists that have been around since the beginning of the movement.

The government sucks, and I don't want it controlling my social OR econmic life! Kiss my liberal ASS, Bush administration! Wow, I'm in an anarchist mood today. :D

I voted neither.

Neither. My business is my own unless through action I cause harm.



You know, most people would interpret that as sarcasm. (Which it should be. As Armed Bookworms said, it is your choice.)

In the current form of government, it should be. But, I do not support our current government OR its agendas.

BTW, socialism involves government economic control, so all you lefties better not choose 'neither'

Actually it doesn't. Real socialism means the workers own the means of production.

Actually it doesn't. Real socialism means the workers own the means of production.


but the income taxes tend to be such that it might as well be the government's

I was going to say economic but I changed my mind at the last second and voted neither, because I have the potential to become economically successful without the government's help. All of us do. It just doesn't feel like it sometimes.

but the income taxes tend to be such that it might as well be the government's

not necessarily. for example, i don't anticipate the existence of an income tax at all in my conception of socialism.

To infer that all liberals are socialists and all socialists are liberals is an insult to socialism and liberalism. Fuck off for that.

Now, I would like more government control in my evonomic life, because the more taxes and services the government privides (healthcare, auto insurance, etc), hte less I have to pay greedy capitalist pigs for said services. I am a socialist. I am not al iberal, though.

Liberals often have this idea that the government should take care of them or "the less fortunate". While I agree that government assistane for people who cannot support htemselves is good, I do not think that I am somehow better than you because I am poorer than you. And I do not feel that the government can properly decide what sort of morals I need, or what is the correct amount of censorship.

In fact, I do not believe in censorship at all in the traditional sense, unless you are promoting violence against an individual or group of individuals.

And I am still a socialist.

True, but they probably want a topic so they can passively flame us.

Got it in one. :D

For some reason conservatives feel the need to start these threads against strawmen so they can finally win an argument. I guess it makes them feel warm and tingly.

Its kind of sad really.