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I just read some other post about someone wanting to get rid of gender roles to create better equality, namely for women.

I ask, why are gender roles bad?

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.

I just read some other post about someone wanting to get rid of gender roles to create better equality, namely for women.

I ask, why are gender roles bad?

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.

To make things short: People like you are why gender roles are bad.

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.
Because children are not the be-all and end-all of women.

To make it shorter: Flamebait.

I just read some other post about someone wanting to get rid of gender roles to create better equality, namely for women.

I ask, why are gender roles bad?

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.

Men and women don't get paid equally because they don't have the same exact jobs. And you're right. Men and women should generally stick to their own roles within a family. This isn't to say that women can't get jobs; but that they should do their role, and the men should do theirs.

I couldn't tell if this was satire or not, but overall, not funny.

Ha, I read the title thinking we would have stumbled upon another good troll, but this one tries to hide his sexism, while the good trolls flaunt it.

This guy actually believes the rubish he espouses.

Ha, I read the title thinking we would have stumbled upon another good troll, but this one tries to hide his sexism, while the good trolls flaunt it.

This guy actually believes the rubish he espouses.

Which isn't a good thing... Not by any means.

typical lefty response 'oooooh you big bad man, I'm not going to criticise you in any way, just make one sentence statements'. I wouldn't mind if someone actually criticised me properly.

And I'm not saying children are the be-all and end-all of women, but why do women want to emancipate themselves only via the economic sphere, sounds a bit heartless to me. Women could have plenty of other interests and still be housewives

typical lefty response 'oooooh you big bad man, I'm not going to criticise you in any way, just make one sentence statements'. I wouldn't mind if someone actually criticised me properly.

I'dve criticized you "properly", but really, that wouldn't have be any fun.

And I'm not saying children are the be-all and end-all of women

Erm, yes, you are...

why do women want to emancipate themselves only via the economic sphere, sounds a bit heartless to me. Women could have plenty of other interests and still be housewives

Only via the economic sphere? What the fuck? Women want equal rights in every part of life, not just business!

typical lefty response 'oooooh you big bad man, I'm not going to criticise you in any way, just make one sentence statements'. I wouldn't mind if someone actually criticised me properly.

And I'm not saying children are the be-all and end-all of women, but why do women want to emancipate themselves only via the economic sphere, sounds a bit heartless to me. Women could have plenty of other interests and still be housewives

If they want to, it's their perrogative. But in all seriousness, there is nothing wrong with a housewife.

typical lefty response 'oooooh you big bad man, I'm not going to criticise you in any way, just make one sentence statements'.
You're off to a nice start, making broad generalizations about the left...
And I'm not saying children are the be-all and end-all of women, but why do women want to emancipate themselves only via the economic sphere, sounds a bit heartless to me. Women could have plenty of other interests and still be housewives
What if a woman is uninterested in being a housewife? Why should she be penalized because others want to?
And what's this about only the economic sphere?

I'm convinced that women are more capable than men, and do the jobs more effeciently more often. Almost every woman I've met in my life has been hardworking and deserving of much more than they get, compared to most of the guys I have met who are mostly lazy bums who do just enough to get by.

I also don't think my parents spent 19 years raising my sister so she can stay home and clean up the shit from children and do all the actual hard work so that when the husband comes home he can crack open a beer and watch football and then fuck her. Hell no. What can I say? I love and respect women SO much.

I just read some other post about someone wanting to get rid of gender roles to create better equality, namely for women.

I ask, why are gender roles bad?

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.

Gender roles are bad because they spawn people like you. You have apparently bought into social, media, and quite possibly religious bias and you, most likely male, are extremely content with your stereotypical role in the world. "Your woman" can be your maid, chef, nanny, and whore all for the low, low price of... absolutely nothing. It must be nice, huh? :mad:

Originally posted by Lauriezia
typical lefty response 'oooooh you big bad man, I'm not going to criticise you in any way, just make one sentence statements'. I wouldn't mind if someone actually criticised me properly.

And I'm not saying children are the be-all and end-all of women, but why do women want to emancipate themselves only via the economic sphere, sounds a bit heartless to me. Women could have plenty of other interests and still be housewives

first your not a big bad man, your an idiot. You have no idea how the modern world works. Women feel they are made into inferior beings and house-slaves by being kept at home.
I will not post again on this thread cuz i don't want to turn this into a flamefest or debate a troll.

I'm convinced that women are more capable at men, and do the jobs more effeciently more often. Almost every woman I've met in my life has been hardworking and deserving of much more than they get, compared to most of the guys I have met who are mostly lazy bums who do just enough to get by.

Which is exactly why people should be paid by how they do their work. And you're right about a lot of guys being lazy bums. I used to see that all the time in my public school days.

I also don't think my parents spent 19 years raising my sister so she can stay home and clean up the shit from children and do all the actual hard work so that when the husband comes home he can crack open a beer and watch football and then fuck her. Hell no. What can I say? I love and respect women SO much.

Well-said. Very well-said.

To make it shorter: Flamebait.

no kidding lol.


But instead of this turning into a stupid " me a troll" thread lets examine some interesting points.

Of course women should get paid the same amount of men for the same job. :rolleyes: The first poster is trolling with that crap.

However do you think women can do ALL the jobs men can? I personally dont. Any job that needs extreme physical endurance or strength is a example. The army or combat roles in the army. How many women could actually pass the intense physical training in order to fill combat roles? Not many, but hey if they can the more power to em. Other than that the only other job i can think of off the top of my head would be my old job...

Basically I was a fresh water pipeline "engineer" I would dive to oil pipelines under large lakes or rivers and dive down and assist another divers who would make repairs. that was a tough job, VERY physical, I doubt many women could do that.....

first your not a big bad man, your an idiot. You have no idea how the modern world works. Women feel they are made into inferior beings and house-slaves by being kept at home.
I will not post again on this thread cuz i don't want to turn this into a flamefest or debate a troll.

First of all, they're not being kept at home. There is no law that says "women can not make their own living". We have gender equality, most of the feminists only want women to have more rights than men do. Women simply have roles they are better at, men have roles that they are better at.

typical lefty response 'oooooh you big bad man, I'm not going to criticise you in any way, just make one sentence statements'. I wouldn't mind if someone actually criticised me properly.

And I'm not saying children are the be-all and end-all of women, but why do women want to emancipate themselves only via the economic sphere, sounds a bit heartless to me. Women could have plenty of other interests and still be housewives

They would, 'cept they cain't! Yer spot on the money, friend! God done said that wimmen is to be subservient. Eve got all uppity and lookit what happened! We're still payin' for thet one. Through the nose! Wimmenfolk done gots us kicked all the way acrost heaven and down inter the mortal world. So fair is only fair: Their duty is to fix us samdwiches and to be fertile.

They would, 'cept they cain't! Yer spot on the money, friend! God done said that wimmen is to be subservient. Eve got all uppity and lookit what happened! We're still payin' for thet one. Through the nose! Wimmenfolk done gots us kicked all the way acrost heaven and down inter the mortal world. So fair is only fair: Their duty is to fix us samdwiches and to be fertile.
*Laughs*

If they want to, it's their perrogative. But in all seriousness, there is nothing wrong with a housewife.
Of course theres nothing wrong with a housewife, but the idea is that people should know theres also nothing wrong with business women, women who choose not to marry or have children, lesbians, or any other path in life. Women should be free to choose their destiny without the stigma attached to alternative lifestyles.

If a women chooses to be a homemaker, all the power to them, but confining all women to that role is authoritarian.

typical lefty response 'oooooh you big bad man, I'm not going to criticise you in any way, just make one sentence statements'. I wouldn't mind if someone actually criticised me properly.

Don't generalize. One thing that pisses me off to no end are people who generalize.

And yes I will refute you..."properly".

In today's world, it seems we need more than one paycheck in order for a family to be maintained. This leads to the logical conclusion that both spouses should have some sort of employment. Why should one parent have to take two jobs when both can be employed AND care for the child/children. THAT is why we see women taking jobs.

As for gender-roles. It has been ingrained within our social structure that men bring home the meat and women do all the housework. That is changing like I said, with the times. I have seen women with high paying jobs, and I have seen men stay at home and care for the house and the kids.

I do agree that there are some jobs that women are not suited for physiologicaly, but I'm certain that there are exceptions. As for wages...if a person does equal work, they deserve equal pay for their services, regardless of gender.

Thank you.

They would, 'cept they cain't! Yer spot on the money, friend! God done said that wimmen is to be subservient. Eve got all uppity and lookit what happened! We're still payin' for thet one. Through the nose! Wimmenfolk done gots us kicked all the way acrost heaven and down inter the mortal world. So fair is only fair: Their duty is to fix us samdwiches and to be fertile.
on the off chance that you were being even remotely serious...what happens if the woman is infertile?

If a women chooses to be a homemaker, all the power to them, but confining all women to that role is authoritarian.

It's authoritarian and absolutely ridiculous.

They would, 'cept they cain't! Yer spot on the money, friend! God done said that wimmen is to be subservient. Eve got all uppity and lookit what happened! We're still payin' for thet one. Through the nose! Wimmenfolk done gots us kicked all the way acrost heaven and down inter the mortal world. So fair is only fair: Their duty is to fix us samdwiches and to be fertile.

Shut the fuck up. It's painfully obvious that you have never been around southerners in your life. My step-mother is from kentucky, yes, she's a redneck, but she's the most hospitable woman I've ever met, she's like a mother to me. And I'll be damned if she's not one of the most loving people I've ever come across. Her parents are southerners too, and are the nicest bunch of people I've ever met. Don't stereotype. Try walking in someone else's shoes before you try to understand them.

It's authoritarian and absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah, that too. My brain isn't moving too fast this afternoon.

on the off chance that you were being even remotely serious...what happens if the woman is infertile?

Obviously, she mustn've done some thing r another to anger the big man upstars. If she's a good'nuff cook, I suppose it could be overlooked. Or maybe she could find herselfs a nice hairlip for a husbint.

But don't pay me no mind. I'm just a good olt boy, hankerin for them days when men was men and wimmen ware daisy dukes.

Shut the fuck up. It's painfully obvious that you have never been around southerners in your life. My step-mother is from kentucky, yes, she's a redneck, but she's the most hospitable woman I've ever met, she's like a mother to me. And I'll be damned if she's not one of the most loving people I've ever come across. Her parents are southerners too, and are the nicest bunch of people I've ever met. Don't stereotype. Try walking in someone else's shoes before you try to understand them.

The only people I've met who act like the people he's stereotyping are right here in Texas. There aren't too many left these days, but they're complete assholes.

And you're right, Haloman. I must say that I agree with you 100% on this.

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.

Untrue.
The Vikings in particular left their women home while they were raiding -- and in every way, the women were in charge of everything including the defense of their homes.

There have been female monarchs all over the world -- indicating that in those cases, they ARE the 'best man' for the job.

The best chefs in the world tend to be men -- so why should men not get in the kitchen once in a while to put food on the family's table?

Obviously, she mustn've done some thing r another to anger the big man upstars. If she's a good'nuff cook, I suppose it could be overlooked. Or maybe she could find herselfs a nice hairlip for a husbint.

But don't pay me no mind. I'm just a good olt boy, hankerin for them days when men was men and wimmen ware daisy dukes.

Methinks this one's trying a bit too hard...

Shut the fuck up. It's painfully obvious that you have never been around southerners in your life. My step-mother is from kentucky, yes, she's a redneck, but she's the most hospitable woman I've ever met, she's like a mother to me. And I'll be damned if she's not one of the most loving people I've ever come across. Her parents are southerners too, and are the nicest bunch of people I've ever met. Don't stereotype. Try walking in someone else's shoes before you try to understand them.
Hey, I'm from Bamalama and I endorse Boss Hawg's impression of the redneck Jesus freak, as I am already half that and I used to be all that. (And yes, I worded it that way on purpose, it amuses me a lot.)

It seems you left a few words out. Of course, you meant to say,

Men and Women need to know their roles are the same, with the minor exception of their biological roles in procreation, which are unique, equal, and complimentary.

Shut the fuck up. It's painfully obvious that you have never been around southerners in your life. My step-mother is from kentucky, yes, she's a redneck, but she's the most hospitable woman I've ever met, she's like a mother to me. And I'll be damned if she's not one of the most loving people I've ever come across. Her parents are southerners too, and are the nicest bunch of people I've ever met. Don't stereotype. Try walking in someone else's shoes before you try to understand them.

Shit, boy. That there Kentucky is a might close to the Mason-Dixon fer mah likin'.

Obviously, she mustn've done some thing r another to anger the big man upstars. If she's a good'nuff cook, I suppose it could be overlooked. Or maybe she could find herselfs a nice hairlip for a husbint.

But don't pay me no mind. I'm just a good olt boy, hankerin for them days when men was men and wimmen ware daisy dukes.
now i know you arent being serious...

I just read some other post about someone wanting to get rid of gender roles to create better equality, namely for women.

I ask, why are gender roles bad?

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.
Actually, the goal is to find ways to support and nurture all life, but that's not the point here.

Either you're indulging in a bit of flamebaiting or you have some very archaic ideas about men, women, freedom and self-fulfillment.

I'm convinced that women are more capable than men, and do the jobs more effeciently more often. Almost every woman I've met in my life has been hardworking and deserving of much more than they get, compared to most of the guys I have met who are mostly lazy bums who do just enough to get by.

I also don't think my parents spent 19 years raising my sister so she can stay home and clean up the shit from children and do all the actual hard work so that when the husband comes home he can crack open a beer and watch football and then fuck her. Hell no. What can I say? I love and respect women SO much.

hear hear!

Untrue.
The Vikings in particular left their women home while they were raiding -- and in every way, the women were in charge of everything including the defense of their homes.

There have been female monarchs all over the world -- indicating that in those cases, they ARE the 'best man' for the job.

The best chefs in the world tend to be men -- so why should men not get in the kitchen once in a while to put food on the family's table?

I cook for myself, and I'll say this: I make some delicious Grilled Ham 'n' Cheese.

And remember Queen Victoria? Queen Elizabeth(s)? If you don't, please don't post here again (just a figure of speech).

And the Vikings... Who doesn't love the Vikings?

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.Bull.

Women had to work outside the house for most of history, on top of being a homemaker- there just wasn't enough money from one job to support a family. Stay-at-home moms are pretty much an invention of the 60's.

Well now... from what I have observed very few men stay with the women they have children with anymore... there is another reason women must go out and work to support their children... and for those who decide not to marry or have children they too must support themselves somehow.. living off parents until a child weds in not really a viable option anymore either.. the world has moved on from the traditional nuclear family...

Hey, I'm from Bamalama and I endorse Boss Hawg's impression of the redneck Jesus freak, as I am already half that and I used to be all that. (And yes, I worded it that way on purpose, it amuses me a lot.)

I live around rednecks, live WITH a redneck, and they're nothing like that.

I live around rednecks, live WITH a redneck, and they're nothing like that.

Maybe where you live, but I know people in Texas who are exactly like that, and worse... My dad, for instance.

My step-mother is [snip] Don't stereotype.
Dont reverse-stereotype. Because your experience with people from a certain region are positive that doesnt mean that all those people are as likeable as your relatives.

Maybe where you live, but I know people in Texas who are exactly like that, and worse... My dad, for instance.
Yeah! If you can't find anyone who talks like that at your dinner table, just look a few generations back. :)

Dont reverse-stereotype. Because your experience with people from a certain region are positive that doesnt mean that all those people are as likeable as your relatives.

*agrees*

wait don't you guys see? the troll stopped talking which means we either overcame him or he is in hiding.

Yeah! If you can't find anyone who talks like that at your dinner table, just look a few generations back. :)

Or across the street. Whatever suits your style.

wait don't you guys see? the troll stopped talking which means we either overcame him or he is in hiding.
Ah, he'll be back. :rolleyes:

Ah, he'll be back. :rolleyes:

I certainly hope not... The less people like him, the better.

Dont reverse-stereotype. Because your experience with people from a certain region are positive that doesnt mean that all those people are as likeable as your relatives.

I know that. But to call all rednecks assholes and Jesusfreaks IS stereotyping- just try walking is someone else's shoes. You might learn something. I sure as hell did. Believe me, I thought the same way- that all rednecks are stupid and ignorant. THey're not. Not all of them.

I know that. But to call all rednecks assholes and Jesusfreaks IS stereotyping- just try walking is someone else's shoes. You might learn something. I sure as hell did. Believe me, I thought the same way- that all rednecks are stupid and ignorant. THey're not. Not all of them.

Not all of them, but a hell of a lot of them are.

wait don't you guys see? the troll stopped talking which means we either overcame him or he is in hiding.
Assuming this person really is just trolling, they might be using the time-honored troll tactic of backing off and waiting. Many trolls will back off shortly after starting their thread and wait for replies to accumulate, then pick some from the batch that are easy to reply to with a flame or stereotype.

Of course, I am not convinced at all that this person is just trolling. Neither did I say they were, this post is just stating one possibility in the case that they are one.

Halo: Never said so. Just that stereotypes are bad. Always. From both sides.

[QUOTE=Potaria]Which is exactly why people should be paid by how they do their work. And you're right about a lot of guys being lazy bums. I used to see that all the time in my public school days.


I'm definetly for equel pay for equel work, womans rights, and a womans right to choose her place in society. But I have seen just as many lazy woman in the work force as men. I'm a hard working male, served honorably in the Marine Corps, am a full time student and work part time...I've worked alot of different places and have perspective from a corporate work envioronment to retail environment, military, educational and so fouth . I just can't agree with your statement or the statement made earlier that woman are better than men at everything and should be paid more than men.

Assuming this person really is just trolling, they might be using the time-honored troll tactic of backing off and waiting. Many trolls will back off shortly after starting their thread and wait for replies to accumulate, then pick some from the batch that are easy to reply to with a flame or stereotype.

Of course, I am not convinced at all that this person is just trolling. Neither did I say they were, this post is just stating one possibility in the case that they are one.

'Tis never a bad thing to have some form of insurance... Unless it's All-State.

I know that. But to call all rednecks assholes and Jesusfreaks IS stereotyping- just try walking is someone else's shoes. You might learn something. I sure as hell did. Believe me, I thought the same way- that all rednecks are stupid and ignorant. THey're not. Not all of them.
Hey, I never called rednecks assholes, jesus freaks, stupid, or ignorant. I have other people to do that for me. :p

[QUOTE=Potaria]Which is exactly why people should be paid by how they do their work. And you're right about a lot of guys being lazy bums. I used to see that all the time in my public school days.


I'm definetly for equel pay for equel work, womans rights, and a womans right to choose her place in society. But I have seen just as many lazy woman in the work force as men. I'm a hard working male, served honorably in the Marine Corps, am a full time student and work part time...I've worked alot of different places and have perspective from a corporate work envioronment to retail environment, military, educational and so fouth . I just can't agree with your statement or the statement made earlier that woman are better than men at everything and should be paid more than men.

I never said that women were better than met at everything, or vice versa. I agree with you on this, but read more carefully before accusing somebody of something they probably didn't do or say in the first place.

Not all of them, but a hell of a lot of them are.

Not the ones I've known. But I agree with you; a lot of them are.

[QUOTE=Potaria]Which is exactly why people should be paid by how they do their work. And you're right about a lot of guys being lazy bums. I used to see that all the time in my public school days.


I'm definetly for equel pay for equel work, womans rights, and a womans right to choose her place in society. But I have seen just as many lazy woman in the work force as men. I'm a hard working male, served honorably in the Marine Corps, am a full time student and work part time...I've worked alot of different places and have perspective from a corporate work envioronment to retail environment, military, educational and so fouth . I just can't agree with your statement or the statement made earlier that woman are better than men at everything and should be paid more than men.

Now I didn't say that ALL women are better than EVERYTHING. I merely stated that I have seen way more hardworking females compared to hardworking males in my life. I certainly have seen plenty lazy females, but the number of lazy men that I've seen dwarfs that of the females. The fact of the matter is, in certain situations females have to work HARDER simply because of their gender.

Not the ones I've known. But I agree with you; a lot of them are.

Agreed. I mean, take me for example. I was born in McAllen (near the Mexican border), and I've lived in Texas most of my life. I talk like somebody from the Northeast and I'm the most socially-libertarian person I've ever known.

Since the dawn of time man has been the provider of amenities, whilst the women makes the home a nice place to live- it means the family structure is well supported and, if everyone knows their role they can be most effective at it.

Actually, prehistoric man was not the provider of amenities. Early social groups were based on egalitarinism. Yes, man was the one who hunted. Yes, women stayed at the camp and gathered nuts and berries etc. But neither job was more important than the other. Research into the matter has actually found that these groups diet consisted of ONLY 30% meat, leaving the rest of the diet in the hands of what you have called "woman's" work.
(I don't have my source on hand but if you wish I can get you the information.)

There's nothing wrong with being a housewife.

There's nothing wrong with being a househusband, either.


The 'standard' gender roles are not the only ones, and no more correct, except in procreation (because men can't get pregnant).

I'm convinced that women are more capable than men, and do the jobs more effeciently more often. Almost every woman I've met in my life has been hardworking and deserving of much more than they get, compared to most of the guys I have met who are mostly lazy bums who do just enough to get by.

I also don't think my parents spent 19 years raising my sister so she can stay home and clean up the shit from children and do all the actual hard work so that when the husband comes home he can crack open a beer and watch football and then fuck her. Hell no. What can I say? I love and respect women SO much.


I apalogize Potaria, this is the statement I should have been referencing. I think this is the one you were quoting as well though...my bad

Agreed. I mean, take me for example. I was born in McAllen (near the Mexican border), and I've lived in Texas most of my life. I talk like somebody from the Northeast and I'm the most socially-libertarian person I've ever known.
I'm unsure of my accent... it's kinda British or somethin'... but I definitly do not have a Southern accent, and you can see my political compass standings. :D People think I'm going through a phase and I'll grow out of it, but I'm getting more Social-libertarian by the day! :p

Agreed. I mean, take me for example. I was born in McAllen (near the Mexican border), and I've lived in Texas most of my life. I talk like somebody from the Northeast and I'm the most socially-libertarian person I've ever known.

:confused: Weird. But then again, my dad is canadian, and he's a Republican.

I'm unsure of my accent... it's kinda British or somethin'... but I definitly do not have a Southern accent, and you can see my political compass standings. :D People think I'm going through a phase and I'll grow out of it, but I'm getting more Social-libertarian by the day! :p

British? That's much better than Southern... I hate Southern accents...

Yes, Haloman, it is "weird", since I live in a very "red" state. I also live with two intolerants --- My brother and my dad. The shit I have to put up with...

Sorry I missed part of th dialoge. Was somebodty stereotyping or reverse-stereotypin on rednecks and hillpeople? Cause that really burns mah grits! Nothin' gets me angrier than some bad stereotyping. Especially the reverse-type. You know, against the white folks.

British? That's much better than Southern... I hate Southern accents...

Yes, Haloman, it is "weird", since I live in a very "red" state. I also live with two intolerants --- My brother and my dad. The shit I have to put up with...

I love southern accents, and I think they're damn sexy if women have them ;)

But yeah, I put up with a lot of crap too, my best friend is a bleeding heart liberal and I'm a Republican :(

Sorry I missed part of th dialoge. Was somebodty stereotyping or reverse-stereotypin on rednecks and hillpeople? Cause that really burns mah grits! Nothin' gets me angrier than some bad stereotyping. Especially the reverse-type. You know, against the white folks.

Just stop... Nobody thinks it's funny (and if somebody does, well then, they have problems). It's very stupid and very unnecessary.

I love southern accents, and I think they're damn sexy if women have them ;)

Oh really? I think it's gross and disgusting.

But yeah, I put up with a lot of crap too, my best friend is a bleeding heart liberal and I'm a Republican :(

I'd like to talk to your friend.

:confused: Weird. But then again, my dad is canadian, and he's a Republican.
:eek:
It's a paradox! A Canadian that's not a commie!
A SIGN OF THE END-TIMES!!!!

:D
[for anyone who cannot tell, I am kidding.]

:eek:
It's a paradox! A Canadian that's not a commie!
A SIGN OF THE END-TIMES!!!!

:D
[for anyone who cannot tell, I am kidding.]

Don't put that tag there! We want people to fall for it!

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.
Perhaps for you, but I am a woman who utterly despises children and am not especially family orientated. My mind turns to mush if I am in the house all day, and especially with a screaming brat at my side, I would have to kill myself. I am not a complete anomaly in the female species, so all the woman in my position would end up either utterly miserable or dead, therefore incapable of looking after their offspring, therefore not doing any good for humanity :)

Just stop... Nobody thinks it's funny (and if somebody does, well then, they have problems). It's very stupid and very unnecessary.

I guess y'all don't appreciate the meta-comedy of the situatchin. See, here I am, a badly drawn cartoon, complainin about how much'n I hates badly-drawn stereotypes.

I'm like one ah them self-hating gays.

But don'tchoo worry about it.

edit--but I ain't no gay, mind you. That was purely for the sake of analagy.

I'm convinced that women are more capable than men, and do the jobs more effeciently more often. Almost every woman I've met in my life has been hardworking and deserving of much more than they get, compared to most of the guys I have met who are mostly lazy bums who do just enough to get by.

I also don't think my parents spent 19 years raising my sister so she can stay home and clean up the shit from children and do all the actual hard work so that when the husband comes home he can crack open a beer and watch football and then fuck her. Hell no. What can I say? I love and respect women SO much.

:eek: Where have you been all of my life?

I guess y'all don't appreciate the meta-comedy of the situatchin. See, here I am, a badly drawn cartoon, complainin about how much'n I hates badly-drawn stereotypes.

I'm like one ah them self-hating gays.

But don'tchoo worry about it.

...

Oh really? I think it's gross and disgusting.



I'd like to talk to your friend.

Yeah....he's interesting at least...devout Christian but liberal as they come. He always tries to convert me.

Into a liberal that is, not into a christian.

I guess y'all don't appreciate the meta-comedy of the situatchin. See, here I am, a badly drawn cartoon, complainin about how much'n I hates badly-drawn stereotypes.

I'm like one ah them self-hating gays.

But don'tchoo worry about it.

edit--but I ain't no gay, mind you. That was purely for the sake of analagy.

;) Don't you have some widows and orphans to put out in the street -- right after you get them Duke boys? ;)

Yeah....he's interesting at least...devout Christian but liberal as they come. He always tries to convert me.

Into a liberal that is, not into a christian.

Okay, then I don't need to talk to your friend. He's obviously not succeeded in his "task", so he's probably not too intelligent.

I don't understand all this new-age rubbish about, say, women getting paid the same amount. They may perhaps be as good as the job if it organisationally based as opposed to physically (women in the army? Don't make me laugh), but paying women less means they're more inclined to stay home, thus upping the possibility for children, which in the end is the main goal for woman, and for humanity.

Do you really beleive that bullshit. You are super-sexist and what if you were paid less money at your job just because people thought everyone in your family was fucking worse than everyone else. You are one of the kinds of people who should be burnt to a crisp and used as fertilizer. Maybe that'll change your views of social equality.

Okay, then I don't need to talk to your friend. He's obviously not succeeded in his "task", so he's probably not too intelligent.

Not really, he does it out of spite, because he knows I won't budge. He's actually pretty intelligent, he's going to spain to study there.

Not really, he does it out of spite, because he knows I won't budge. He's actually pretty intelligent, he's going to spain to study there.

Doing it out of spite isn't the way to do it. My best friend was a hardcore Republican until I showed him everything I knew, and what things were really like. To this day he despises the Republican party, as well as his parents, whom he refers to as "nazis".

Studying in Spain, eh? Sounds good to me, though I'd prefer Australia.

I'll move out if living with a woman means i cant cook !

gender roles are only an invention of the post ww2 uptights anyway...

To make things short: People like you are why gender roles are bad.

Game. Set. Match.

Yet another misogynist feels the wrath of Potaria's wit and wisdom.

rofl, this thread has gone farther than I ever could have hoped.......

Anyway, I would like to apologise for my initial post, I would like to confirm that I believe NOTHING that I said and yes I certainly was being a 'super-sexist'.


I just thought it'd be fun to play devils advocate :)

Again, sorry.



What I did love however was this little nugget 'quite possibly religious bias'. It's brilliant the way that when their's a nutcase nazi on the loose on a forum it's assumed he may very well be religious :D
(just to point out, I'm not being wholly critical, and it's probably a fair assumption to make as most religious people are retarded.)

-snip-
No offense taken - however you should know this forum has played host to a number of strange people like this ub3r-feminist puppet-poster named HerPower

rofl, this thread has gone farther than I ever could have hoped.......

Anyway, I would like to apologise for my initial post, I would like to confirm that I believe NOTHING that I said and yes I certainly was being a 'super-sexist'.


I just thought it'd be fun to play devils advocate :)

Again, sorry.



What I did love however was this little nugget 'quite possibly religious bias'. It's brilliant the way that when their's a nutcase nazi on the loose on a forum it's assumed he may very well be religious :D
(just to point out, I'm not being wholly critical, and it's probably a fair assumption to make as most religious people are retarded.)
Hah. Total troll. Don't do that a lot. It will un-popularize you.

Anyway, I would like to apologise for my initial post, I would like to confirm that I believe NOTHING that I said and yes I certainly was being a 'super-sexist'.

I don't think you were anywhere near the super-sexiest. I think Maxim said that was Halle Berry.

Because children are not the be-all and end-all of women. Surely if they were, then the be-all and end-all of men would be to work? Polarised gender-roles work both ways!

I wont do it again, promise. But you have you admit that was fun, everyone bonding together under the common enemy of an uber-chauvanist.

I liked the whole 'The troll's not talking so we must have crushed him or he has gone into hiding' bit

Sexism, give me a break. This is the 21th century.

erm........bit late