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How far would you go for your family?

Eutrusca
22-03-2005, 15:57
To me, it's all about family. Yes, I love other people. Yes, I love my Country. But when there is a conflict between the welfare of my family and virtually anything else, I will opt to do what's best for my family ... period!

If necessary, I would kill for my family. If times were desperate and members of my family were in danger of starvation, I would steal for my family. If I were required to lay down my life for my family, I would like to think I would do so gladly.

To what lengths would you go to protect/defend/care for your family? Why?
Aligned Planets
22-03-2005, 16:03
I think most people would do what they could, whatever they could, in order to protect those they love.
The Emperor Fenix
22-03-2005, 16:04
Theoretically i wouldn't lift a finger to help my family. In practice id sacrafice quite a bit. Though not perhaps as much as many others would.
Franziskonia
22-03-2005, 16:09
That depends on whom of my family you speak of. Granted, blood runs thicker than water, but there are definitely some folks in my family for whom I'd do not that much, if not nothing.

Fran
Pure Metal
22-03-2005, 16:10
if i had to i would steal, lie, fight, and give my life for my family. i wouldn't kill another for my family (or anyone else) though (unless it were kill-or-be-killed of course)
Alien Born
22-03-2005, 16:10
To me, it's all about family. Yes, I love other people. Yes, I love my Country. But when there is a conflict between the welfare of my family and virtually anything else, I will opt to do what's best for my family ... period!

If necessary, I would kill for my family. If times were desperate and members of my family were in danger of starvation, I would steal for my family. If I were required to lay down my life for my family, I would like to think I would do so gladly.

To what lengths would you go to protect/defend/care for your family? Why?

My family is, has always been and will always be at the top of my list of priorities. They come before me, my country, my sports teams, my job, my house whatever. If they did not, I could not consider myself a father and husband.

However I am not sure that the average rebellious teenager, who is not a parent, who has no spouse, is going to fully understand this. I remember that at 16 my family (parents) felt like a millstone around my neck, restricting my freedoms, not alowing me to be me.
Pure Metal
22-03-2005, 16:13
However I am not sure that the average rebellious teenager, who is not a parent, who has no spouse, is going to fully understand this. I remember that at 16 my family (parents) felt like a millstone around my neck, restricting my freedoms, not alowing me to be me.
damnit i'm still a teenager (19), i have no spouse, i'm not a parent, but - to the best of my knowledge - i understand you and Eutrusca. maybe thats one of the reasons i want a family so much :)
Slinao
22-03-2005, 16:27
the depths of which I would go for my family is near endless. I would put myself into harms way, and I would defend them to the last breath of my body. I am a father, and a husband. Those bonds go deeper then anything I have ever felt. I feel this way even to my step-daughter, who I take as my own, since the day she was born.

If I had the choice between my life and any one of my children's or my wife's lives, then I would lay my life down, so that they could live on. I would never look towards any other goal then theirs. They are my divine mission in this life, and they I will not fail.

My purpose in this life is to protect and defend. To let that mission slip so that I could live and they be failed, would make my life useless and failed. My love for them is deeper then anything that I've ever fealt, so why would I choose anything other then the feeling that I know for them, and have known through them.

I fear not death, for I know that I am not alone.
Falhaar
22-03-2005, 16:39
How far would you go for your family?
As far as was needed to keep them safe. This stands as the only reason I would EVER join the military, even though I am very anti-war. Sometimes you have to fight and even murder for the people you love. It's monsterous, but then so is humanity.
Eutrusca
22-03-2005, 16:40
the depths of which I would go for my family is near endless. I would put myself into harms way, and I would defend them to the last breath of my body. I am a father, and a husband. Those bonds go deeper then anything I have ever felt. I feel this way even to my step-daughter, who I take as my own, since the day she was born.

If I had the choice between my life and any one of my children's or my wife's lives, then I would lay my life down, so that they could live on. I would never look towards any other goal then theirs. They are my divine mission in this life, and they I will not fail.

My purpose in this life is to protect and defend. To let that mission slip so that I could live and they be failed, would make my life useless and failed. My love for them is deeper then anything that I've ever fealt, so why would I choose anything other then the feeling that I know for them, and have known through them.

I fear not death, for I know that I am not alone.
You keep that attitude, my friend! I salute you!
Lascivious Maximus
22-03-2005, 16:40
Nothing comes between me and my family, and there is no love stronger than that which is shared between us. :)
Eutrusca
22-03-2005, 16:41
As far as was needed to keep them safe. This stands as the only reason I would EVER join the military, even though I am very anti-war. Sometimes you have to fight and even murder for the people you love. It's monsterous, but then so is humanity.
So-called "civilized man" is but a short step away from the beast within.
The Chocolate Goddess
22-03-2005, 16:51
I would do nearly anything and everything for my close family members and friends. It is an unconditional love and, as such, it requires nothing less.
Unistate
22-03-2005, 16:59
I would clarify first that I don't mean family in the necessarily traditional manner, rather the people with whom I share a bond close enough to be called family.

However, for these people, there is nothing I would not do. I'd die for them, and kill for them. Not without compunction, and probably not without hesitation, but when it comes down to it, I hold them above all else in the universe. I'll fight on any battlefield required to defend them. Although I doubt I'd ever join the army, because A) I would not operate well in a disciplined structure like that (Ie, I'd not operate at all, I'd be all rogue and stuff.), and B) I wouldn't trust the army to make proper use of me. If I stay with them, I can defend them to the very last no matter what. If I die three thousand miles away, I would feel as though I failed them.
ElleDiamonique
22-03-2005, 16:59
I would do "anything" for my family. Let's face it...family is what it's all about.
Alien Born
22-03-2005, 17:44
damnit i'm still a teenager (19), i have no spouse, i'm not a parent, but - to the best of my knowledge - i understand you and Eutrusca. maybe thats one of the reasons i want a family so much :)

Note I said average. You appear to be above average by your response.
Greedy Pig
22-03-2005, 17:54
To some extent. I wouldn't kill unless their attacked. And also depends on your family. But I'll help in anyway possibly, that is within reasonable limits.

Like I know one of my friend, he'll do nothing for his father.

Why? Because his father is a crook who cheats people and is on the run. Lets be honest, would you house him if he's utterly destitute, yes. Would you lend him money in most desperate cases, maybe a little. But how much would you be willing to sacrifice? Do you fight his fights? He is a crook. If the police come knocking on the door, you won't fight the police just because he's your father.

That sort of thing I won't do.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-03-2005, 20:30
To me, it's all about family. Yes, I love other people. Yes, I love my Country. But when there is a conflict between the welfare of my family and virtually anything else, I will opt to do what's best for my family ... period!

If necessary, I would kill for my family. If times were desperate and members of my family were in danger of starvation, I would steal for my family. If I were required to lay down my life for my family, I would like to think I would do so gladly.

To what lengths would you go to protect/defend/care for your family? Why?


I'd go to any lengths necessary. The welfare of my family is above all else. No question, no debate. There is nothing more important to me than my family's well-being, I will always do whats in their best interest. They are my responsibilty-the buck stops with me. If times were desperate, I am prepared to keep them safe and well for a time-after that, I'll do what it takes.
Germachinia
22-03-2005, 20:32
Eutrusca, are you Mafia? Only "I'd kill for my family" and "I'd gladly lay down my life..."
Bolol
22-03-2005, 20:38
(Click Click)

If they want to get to them...they'll have to go through me first.
Calricstan
22-03-2005, 21:06
I'd say about a mile and a half; maybe two miles if the weather's nice.
Bottle
22-03-2005, 21:12
To me, it's all about family. Yes, I love other people. Yes, I love my Country. But when there is a conflict between the welfare of my family and virtually anything else, I will opt to do what's best for my family ... period!

If necessary, I would kill for my family. If times were desperate and members of my family were in danger of starvation, I would steal for my family. If I were required to lay down my life for my family, I would like to think I would do so gladly.

To what lengths would you go to protect/defend/care for your family? Why?
pretty much the same, though for me "family" isn't as simple a term as for some people. my "family" is comprised of my parents, my brother, my "aunt and uncle" (who actually are not my biological relatives), my lover, and my lover's parents and siblings.

my surviving extended biological family is a group of strangers to me, and i wouldn't do any more or less for them than i would for strangers.
Kejott
22-03-2005, 21:14
Let's just say that if anybody fucks with my family, I will devote every waking moment to hunting down and killing ANYBODY connected, anybody gaining from it, anybody who was capable of preventing it, yet stood by and did nothing.
North Island
22-03-2005, 21:27
To me, it's all about family. Yes, I love other people. Yes, I love my Country. But when there is a conflict between the welfare of my family and virtually anything else, I will opt to do what's best for my family ... period!

If necessary, I would kill for my family. If times were desperate and members of my family were in danger of starvation, I would steal for my family. If I were required to lay down my life for my family, I would like to think I would do so gladly.

To what lengths would you go to protect/defend/care for your family? Why?

I would do ANYTHING for them, even kill people and I'm not just saying that I mean it! Die for them? Sure I would, no question.
Independent Homesteads
22-03-2005, 21:43
i think I'd find it very easy to kill someone to defend my family, but I'd find it easier to still to get my family together and run away.
Tiralon
22-03-2005, 23:21
It's odd but I just saw 'Saw', a rancid gore-fest of a movie. One of the main character saws off his foot so he can save his family. You might think what is your foot compared to your wife and daughter? See the movie if you got the stomach for it.

WARNING: this movie is really and really bloody, I'm not a quickly disgusted nor scared easily yet this made my stomach turn. The script though is solid and well thought of by a very sick mind.
Tiralon
22-03-2005, 23:21
It's odd but I just saw 'Saw', a rancid gore-fest of a movie. One of the main character saws off his foot so he can save his family. You might think what is your foot compared to your wife and daughter? See the movie if you got the stomach for it.

WARNING: this movie is really and really bloody, I'm not a quickly disgusted nor scared easily yet this made my stomach turn. The script though is solid and well thought of by a very sick mind.
Ashmoria
23-03-2005, 00:05
well lets see...

if you had reason to suspect that your family member had just raped and murdered a 9 year old neighbor girl and buried her in your yard would you lie to the police about him?

would you work 3 jobs to pay for your sons continuous legal fees due to his mulitple drug convictions?

would you allow your daughter to keep stealing from you in order to pay for her meth habit?

would you use your retirement account to pay for your kids 5th attempt at college?

would you pay for your 35 year old daughters second wedding that she estimates would cost around $25,000?

there are a lot of things i wouldnt do for my family.
Ashmoria
23-03-2005, 03:37
BUMP to see if anyone would go that far
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 03:47
Eutrusca, are you Mafia? Only "I'd kill for my family" and "I'd gladly lay down my life..."
Wassamatta fa u? U don' like mah fambly? We godda cement overcoat u gonna love! :D
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 03:51
well lets see...

1. if you had reason to suspect that your family member had just raped and murdered a 9 year old neighbor girl and buried her in your yard would you lie to the police about him?

2. would you work 3 jobs to pay for your sons continuous legal fees due to his mulitple drug convictions?

3. would you allow your daughter to keep stealing from you in order to pay for her meth habit?

4. would you use your retirement account to pay for your kids 5th attempt at college?

5. would you pay for your 35 year old daughters second wedding that she estimates would cost around $25,000?

there are a lot of things i wouldnt do for my family.
The only one I might seriously consider would be number 4, and perhaps not even that. True love for someone means that you don't shield them from the consequences of their stupidity, particularly if you've already warned them about said consequences. Some people call this "tough love." I call it being realistic.

When I say I will support and even kill for my family, that means that I will do so when they're in the right ... after all, that's the way I raised them. If they do things they know are wrong, they already know that I will allow them to suffer the consequences out of my great love for them.

Make sense? :)
Potaria
23-03-2005, 03:56
Pfff, I wouldn't go very far the two losers I live with, a.k.a. my brother and my dad.
Ashmoria
23-03-2005, 04:00
The only one I might seriously consider would be number 4, and perhaps not even that. True love for someone means that you don't shield them from the consequences of their stupidity, particularly if you've already warned them about said consequences. Some people call this "tough love." I call it being realistic.

When I say I will support and even kill for my family, that means that I will do so when they're in the right ... after all, that's the way I raised them. If they do things they know are wrong, they already know that I will allow them to suffer the consequences out of my great love for them.

Make sense? :)
perfect sense

and yet there are people who have done all of those things out of love of their family
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 04:15
perfect sense

and yet there are people who have done all of those things out of love of their family
People have lots of different definitions of what constitutes "love." :)
Funky Beat
23-03-2005, 09:14
I would die for my family. Simple as that.
Aeruillin
23-03-2005, 11:14
To me, it's all about family. Yes, I love other people. Yes, I love my Country. But when there is a conflict between the welfare of my family and virtually anything else, I will opt to do what's best for my family ... period!

If necessary, I would kill for my family. If times were desperate and members of my family were in danger of starvation, I would steal for my family. If I were required to lay down my life for my family, I would like to think I would do so gladly.

To what lengths would you go to protect/defend/care for your family? Why?

You must have one hell of a family.

For me?

Suffer discomfort/pain for family - yes.
Steal for family - if the one I was stealing from didn't suffer from that.
Kill for family - no way. In fact, I wouldn't kill for anything (that's kill as in "murder" not as in "swatting a flie").
Die for family - not if I could prevent it.
Kazcaper
23-03-2005, 11:51
For me, friends are much more important. In my opinion, family is genetics, but friendship is earned. I don't dislike my family (except for my father, whom I despise), but apart from my mother, none of them I consider friends - they have not earned my friendship, nor I theirs, largely because I have very little in common with them.

In short, then, I would protect them to whatever extent I could, but if it came to a decision between the family and my friends, my friends would win. The 'friends' include my mother, but not because she is my mother per se - it's because she's one of my best friends.
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 12:27
You must have one hell of a family.
I do. :)

Objectively, my family isn't much differenet from thousands of other families, but they're my family and I choose to love them. I discovered long ago that children who have adults around who think they're the greatest will almost always do better than those who don't or who are unsure. Part of my mission in life has been to assure that first my children, then my grandchildren grow up surrounded by as much love as possible. Trust me ... it works! :)
Aeruillin
23-03-2005, 12:35
I do. :)

Objectively, my family isn't much differenet from thousands of other families, but they're my family and I choose to love them. I discovered long ago that children who have adults around who think they're the greatest will almost always do better than those who don't or who are unsure. Part of my mission in life has been to assure that first my children, then my grandchildren grow up surrounded by as much love as possible. Trust me ... it works! :)

Heh... perhaps I'll think the same way once my role in my family changes from that of the child to that of the parent. :p
Bottle
23-03-2005, 12:40
well lets see...

if you had reason to suspect that your family member had just raped and murdered a 9 year old neighbor girl and buried her in your yard would you lie to the police about him?

would you work 3 jobs to pay for your sons continuous legal fees due to his mulitple drug convictions?

would you allow your daughter to keep stealing from you in order to pay for her meth habit?

would you use your retirement account to pay for your kids 5th attempt at college?

would you pay for your 35 year old daughters second wedding that she estimates would cost around $25,000?

there are a lot of things i wouldnt do for my family.

the reason i care so much for my family is that none of them would do any of those things. also, since i never plan to have kids, most of your examples can never come to pass in my family.

although i can definitively say that i wouldn't do the last one...i wouldn't pay 25K for ANYBODY'S wedding, nor would i ever consider asking for such a sum to pay for my own. that's such a disgusting waste that i would just smack the kid upside the head and walk away laughing.
The Imperial Navy
23-03-2005, 13:03
Considering that I have given up on myself and have dedicated my life to my family, I think i'd do pretty much anything for them.
Gartref
23-03-2005, 13:07
I would kill for my family.
yeah.... but could you pick the phone up and call your mother for god's sake? What? is your arm broken? It should kill you to bring the kids by once in a while? you with all the fancy golfing buddies and internet forums? You used to come by the house every day for a nosh and a little schmoozing. Now you don't even call. Don't get me wrong... I appreciate the fact you'd commit murder for me, God forbid, but would it hurt you to be home for Sadir, and drive your uncle Morey back into the city after?

:)
Jester III
23-03-2005, 16:03
Lets see. My mother is dead, all my grandparents are. My father is a sorry loser, who threw away his life via alcoholism and didnt do squat to support me when i direly needed it. He demands respect even now and does not earn it in my eyes.
Next of of blood relatives are aunts, uncles and cousins. Most are ok, i'd do them a reasonable favour if they ask me for it, but i wont go criminal for them.
Then there are my adoptive father and my sister and brother. Even if we share no dna, they are my immediate family and id go pretty far, helping out where i can. But even here a line is drawn, i'd steal some food and clothes if we were to starve or freeze to death, but thats about it. Certainly i wont engage in blood revenge or such.
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 16:07
Heh... perhaps I'll think the same way once my role in my family changes from that of the child to that of the parent. :p
Being an effective parent is the hardest job you'll ever love. :)
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 16:13
yeah.... but could you pick the phone up and call your mother for god's sake? What? is your arm broken? It should kill you to bring the kids by once in a while? you with all the fancy golfing buddies and internet forums? You used to come by the house every day for a nosh and a little schmoozing. Now you don't even call. Don't get me wrong... I appreciate the fact you'd commit murder for me, God forbid, but would it hurt you to be home for Sadir, and drive your uncle Morey back into the city after?

:)
OMG! A Jewish mother! :D
Zooke
23-03-2005, 16:45
OMG! A Jewish mother! :D
Yeah...and the problem with that? :p
Ashmoria
23-03-2005, 17:26
i hate it when meatloaf rattles around in my head!

"i would do anything for love, but i wont do THAT"

ya ya like the jewish guy said. youll commit murder for me but you wont bring the kids by on sunday. youll take a bullet for me but you wont mow my lawn.

there are always things we wont do for our families. we love them but we draw limits.

i wouldnt do any of those things that were on my previous list. i would bankrupt myself to pay for my sons liver transplant but not for his new recording company. i would take my son to rehab 1000 times but i wouldnt use my retirement money to pay for his legal defence when he is obviously guilty.

so what WONT you do for love? where are the limits in this unlimited love you all seem to have?
Roach-Busters
23-03-2005, 17:27
To me, it's all about family. Yes, I love other people. Yes, I love my Country. But when there is a conflict between the welfare of my family and virtually anything else, I will opt to do what's best for my family ... period!

If necessary, I would kill for my family. If times were desperate and members of my family were in danger of starvation, I would steal for my family. If I were required to lay down my life for my family, I would like to think I would do so gladly.

To what lengths would you go to protect/defend/care for your family? Why?

You're a great guy, Gramps. :p Would you kill for me?
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 17:30
Yeah...and the problem with that? :p
**GULP** Heh! Um ... none at all, Zooke! None at all!
Eutrusca
23-03-2005, 17:35
You're a great guy, Gramps. :p Would you kill for me?
Perhaps, but only if that were the only remaining option. :)