NationStates Jolt Archive

I'm rather upset at this "fine" country's situations.

-The US president and his "pro-life" religious cadre' interfering in the personal matters of Schiavo and her family. First of all...for all intents and purposes she's dead. Second...WHAT FUCKING BUSINESS IS IT OF YOURS? You've turned her, and her whole family into a political tool you bastard! Take your Bible, and go beat yourself over the head a few times, maybe that'll help stimulate some common sense!

-Discussing baseball players use of steroids, when Congress should be worried about social security, and the quagmire of a "war on terror" we have going on in Iraq. Let's not worry about one overpaid, slightly chemicaly enhanced motherfucker and worry about other things...say the 1600 deaths in Iraq, or the fact that Bush is trying to hijack my Social Security!

-A school shooting today in Minnesota, which left ten dead. Not only is this tragic, no...but now every gun lobby in the US is clamoring to turn this into a political thing. And now, the censorship nuts have ammo too! Let them mourn in peace!!! Of course, they aren't going to listen. 24 hours from now, we'll have the Democrats up in arms again over gun control...and the Republicans up in arms to basicly control our lives.

-Martha Stuart being released...and being treated like a fucking martyr! You broke the law bitch! You get NO sympathy from me! Oh! You wanna overturn it now? Like that'll get your five months back! You trying to prove something? That you were "wrongfully accused"? How about, no...Go back home and carry out the rest of your cushy house arrest sentence!

-The Michael Jackson trial...Is there anyone who's telling the truth anymore? The plaintiff has lied. Jackson has lied. He's claiming everything from racism to sexual discrimination, etc etc. Time for this thing to DIE!

You ever have one of those days where you feel like you're surrounded by idiots?

Christ! This country is in such a fucking mess! :headbang:

(sigh) Thank you for allowing me to rant. I'm going to go have a cookie...

I believe that the people in this country take too much crap but are too scared to do anything about it. I think we need a new revolution! (At least, many teenagers want a revolution)

Good rant.
"I feel your pain." *points without using index finger*
It's that darned "libruhl media"! We'll never get away from it!
Markreich has some cookies mentioned on one of the other threads today ....
;)

I think having a joint with that cookie might be a good idea too :)

Oh, and Melodiasu, teenagers always want a revolution.

go being pissed off with martha stewart...i am tired of everyone trying to make her out to be so innocent "well there are murderers out there and they lock her up instead"...well, idiots...they caught her...and she still broke the law damnit...just because she can make you a good damn pie doesnt make her frickin innocent

-Discussing baseball players use of steroids

Personally I think steriods is a GOOD thing for sports. Seriously, wouldn't you rather watch big ole monsterous ass motherfuckers hit the ball 30 miles and run around the bases 60 mph? or boring regular people?

Why don't you complain about it? That always works. That's how America got its independence, isn't it? They just bitched and bitched to England and England said, "HERE! HERE'S YOUR OWN COUNTRY! JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT!" It's very patriotic that you are solving the nation's problems the way the Forefathers did it.

Why don't you complain about it? That always works. That's how America got its independence, isn't it? They just bitched and bitched to England and England said, "HERE! HERE'S YOUR OWN COUNTRY! JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT!" It's very patriotic that you are solving the nation's problems the way the Forefathers did it.

shut the fuck up. don't drag the revolutionary WAR (it was a war, we actually FOUGHT) into this.

and on the schiavo thing, i agree. check out the other thread, i think it's called 'this has gone too far.' my take:

agreed. what gives the president the right to decide whether or not she stays alive? THAT is being presumptuous.

heard some people talking about this on the radio the other night, and they said some pretty interesting stuff.
first off- we, as a species, are fully aware that we are going to die. that is the biggest joke you could play on any creature. second, we are total pussies about handling death. at the risk of sounding cliched, death is a part of life. death can be a perfectly normal, dignified act. but we choose to fear it, and prolong it as long as possible. this person has been completely stripped of their dignity. brain-dead and living off a feeding tube? christ, i hope that never happens to me. sure, some people might reach an age well into the 80s or 90s, but most people cease to really 'live' after a point long preceding that age.

last weekend i was volunteering at an assissted living center and i got to make a little trip to the forbidden fourth floor; the home of the alzheimers' patients. most of these people appeared to be unaware of what was going on, and several were sitting in their own filth. that's not living, and i hope my next of kin would have the goddamn common courtesy to let me pass with my dignity before i ever reached that point in 'life.'

as far as the whole 'playing god' thing, the only people who are 'playing god' are the ones who insist on prolonging this person's tragic existence. i agree with one of the first posters who said that god a.) doesnt exist or b.) doesn't give a shit.

in a nutshell, if there is any reasonable hope for this woman coming back to full consciousness or whatever, then snap to it. otherwise, let her die with what little dignity she has left, and try to treat death and those close to it with a little respect.

shut the fuck up. don't drag the revolutionary WAR (it was a war, we actually FOUGHT) into this.I should make a new country call "Sarcasminnia" and maybe people might loosen their assholes a tad.

Personally I think steriods is a GOOD thing for sports. Seriously, wouldn't you rather watch big ole monsterous ass motherfuckers hit the ball 30 miles and run around the bases 60 mph? or boring regular people?

Lol, that is awesome, I may even sig that, it's so full of chunky goodness!

go being pissed off with martha stewart...i am tired of everyone trying to make her out to be so innocent "well there are murderers out there and they lock her up instead"...well, idiots...they caught her...and she still broke the law damnit...just because she can make you a good damn pie doesnt make her frickin innocent

While Martha Stewart deserved what she got, I do think she was singled out as an example. Too many rich white Repulican males get away with the same damn thing. She's a female with too many Hollywood friends, an outsider.

I'm rather upset at this "fine" country's situations.

-The US president and his "pro-life" religious cadre' interfering in the personal matters of Schiavo and her family. First of all...for all intents and purposes she's dead. Second...WHAT FUCKING BUSINESS IS IT OF YOURS? You've turned her, and her whole family into a political tool you bastard! Take your Bible, and go beat yourself over the head a few times, maybe that'll help stimulate some common sense!

-Discussing baseball players use of steroids, when Congress should be worried about social security, and the quagmire of a "war on terror" we have going on in Iraq. Let's not worry about one overpaid, slightly chemicaly enhanced motherfucker and worry about other things...say the 1600 deaths in Iraq, or the fact that Bush is trying to hijack my Social Security!

-A school shooting today in Minnesota, which left ten dead. Not only is this tragic, no...but now every gun lobby in the US is clamoring to turn this into a political thing. And now, the censorship nuts have ammo too! Let them mourn in peace!!! Of course, they aren't going to listen. 24 hours from now, we'll have the Democrats up in arms again over gun control...and the Republicans up in arms to basicly control our lives.

-Martha Stuart being released...and being treated like a fucking martyr! You broke the law bitch! You get NO sympathy from me! Oh! You wanna overturn it now? Like that'll get your five months back! You trying to prove something? That you were "wrongfully accused"? How about, no...Go back home and carry out the rest of your cushy house arrest sentence!

-The Michael Jackson trial...Is there anyone who's telling the truth anymore? The plaintiff has lied. Jackson has lied. He's claiming everything from racism to sexual discrimination, etc etc. Time for this thing to DIE!

You ever have one of those days where you feel like you're surrounded by idiots?

Christ! This country is in such a fucking mess! :headbang:

(sigh) Thank you for allowing me to rant. I'm going to go have a cookie...Don't forget the milk...

While Martha Stewart deserved what she got, I do think she was singled out as an example. Too many rich white Repulican males get away with the same damn thing. She's a female with too many Hollywood friends, an outsider.Enron?

nope, everyone who get's caught goes to trial... it's just because she's famous that it was so public.

I believe that the people in this country take too much crap but are too scared to do anything about it. I think we need a new revolution! (At least, many teenagers want a revolution)


True dat, wouldn't it be funny if Republicans lack of gun control resulted in them being overthrown? Seems appropriate to me.

No, we don't need a revolution. We need people who are informed voters. At least 30% of the eligible voters (more, I think) did not go to the polls last November. And of those who voted, many acted against their own self-interests because they allowed themselves to be manipulated by emotional political advertising. So when there idiots in office, we have only ourselves to blame.

we are total pussies about handling death. at the risk of sounding cliched, death is a part of life. death can be a perfectly normal, dignified act. but we choose to fear it, and prolong it as long as possible.

Perhaps for some, but not for all. Death is transcendence, life is a preparation of sorts for that transcendence. I don't mean we should dwell needlessly upon death, but it's just silly to carry on as though it's a sickness or a disease. It happens. It should be as wonderful as any other part of life. And for some, it is. You just don't hear about it in the news, that's all.

My brother-in-law was hit by a car while riding a bicycle with no helmet on New Year's Eve 2003. The doctors at the hospital made a decision to relieve pressure that had built up inside his brain by removing a portion of his skull.

While the procedure saved his life, he has remained in a vegetative state ever since. At the time, he was estranged from my sister-in-law, and though she knew his wishes (he had not thought to leave a living will - something which she had pestered him about, as he was a bicycle courier by trade) that if he should be so incapacitated, that he would most vociferously NOT be kept alive, the amount of time he had spent living back at his fervently Catholic parent's home made his parents his legal 'next of kin', and precluded my sister-in-law's input as to his wishes.

There was a small insurance payout, and his parents spent the lot on a private room in a private hospital, even though there was no prognosis of any sort other than that he would remain a vegetable il his dying day. The only thing preventing him from dying is a foodtube, and eventually, no matter how good his level of care, he'll develop some infection or other that will finally bring about his death. But Otto was a healthy man, with a strong physique - I expect he'll linger for decades before his body gives out.

It is tragic - and terribly difficult for my sister-in-law and the two children she had with Otto. They need to be able to say 'goodbye', but his parents refuse to let him pass on.

So death stalks us all. If you've lived life well, you have nothing to fear in death. It can take us at any time, in any of a thousand ways. And eventually, it will. Why fear? I think some of us fear it because it is the ultimate limiting factor - if I have not accomplished a) and overcome b) at point of death, I will be unfulfilled c). It's laughable, really. It doesn't matter what you do, or who you do it with - it only matters HOW you do things. HOW you live life. HOW does what you do here, in this slice of time and space, affect you in the next phase of existence?

This is the basis of many if not all spiritual belief constructs. I'll leave it up to you to decide what holds meaning for you in this context.

When my mother passed away from a type-4 gliobastoma in her Corpus Calossum, around the same time as Otto had his accident, she had been deteriorating rapidly over a period of less than four months. She went from being fully cognizant to a state of total vegetation during that time. In the interim, her short-term memory was being utterly ravaged. Her memory window grew shorter every day as her cancer grew larger.

At one point, she came awake with a start, baffled as to why so many of her children were home with her. She began talking about her mother, our loooong-dead grandmother, coming in from the airport, before she caught herself in her error. This upset her, but mercifully, a minute later, she had forgotten all about her little time-travel trip.

That was the only time I saw her time-travel, and I believe she was doing just that, travelling through the piece of space/time accrued in her longterm memories, the only parts of her memory still serving her. What is time and space? As we exist within its' confines, are we not also confining portions of it within ourselves? Are we somehow like a roiling mass of tiny quantum space/time bubbles foaming at some incomprehensible tidal force? Maybe. I'm not sure. But I think my mother found out.

She was the one, I found out years after leaving home, who had brought all those Sci-Fi books home, that I'd spent many formative years reading. One story I recall was by Harlan Eliison, and had, at one point, an exchange between two beings composed only of blue light. The night my mother died, I had a vivid dream/hallucination/vision of a single field of blue light that came to me in the darkness. If I looked directly into it, the light moved into my peripheral vision instead. There was no sound at all, except my dream voice. I asked one word - 'Mother?' And the light grew in intensity, then rapidly diminished while receding away at an exponential rate. I thought I could hear some sort of preoccupied muttering at the very end, but I woke up shortly after.

I took it that she had indeed paid me a final visit - though she was still partially hampered by her debilitating illness. I think she slipped the bonds of space and time and simply went elsewhere. Everywhere. Passed into all points of space/time, occupied them, then moved on. Where to? I don't know. But eventually I'll make my way as well - wherever I go. And I plan to live my life well, so that when it does come to pass, I won't be fearful.

I think that they should allow Schaivo to die, but not by taking her feeding tube. At leat do it a little more humanely.

I think that they should allow Schaivo to die, but not by taking her feeding tube. At leat do it a little more humanely.

I'm given to understand that most of her brain has been replaced with cerebral fluid. There isn't enough left of her to feel pain. Ordinarily dehydration would make you pass out and then you wouldn't feel anything after that until you either die or get hydrated. She's sort of pre-passed out, so humaneness isn't really an issue.

The thing that really bugs me is how the Bush signed a law as governor in texas that says the hospital can take you off life support whether your family lets them or not, but now he's helping to intervene and pretending it's all about the government having a "culture of life."