NationStates Jolt Archive


What's Your Favorate Form of Goverment?

Regulastan
21-03-2005, 00:19
Well?
Mine is Imperialism
Trilateral Commission
21-03-2005, 00:48
kakistocracy
Total Submission
21-03-2005, 00:59
A brutal dictatorship with me as the leaders personal bitch. :eek:
Corisan
21-03-2005, 01:05
Didnt know Imperialism was a form of Government?
Super-power
21-03-2005, 01:09
A Libertarian Democratic Republic
Neo-Anarchists
21-03-2005, 01:10
post-anarcho-cryptoheirozooligarchy.
Swimmingpool
21-03-2005, 01:13
Representative 'Democracy'
Haloman
21-03-2005, 01:15
post-anarcho-cryptoheirozooligarchy.

Nice.

Pre-natal democratic superautocracracy.

But no, seriously, probably a Republic. A better one than we have.
Celtlund
21-03-2005, 01:17
Nice.

Pre-natal democratic superautocracracy.

But no, seriously, probably a Republic. A better one than we have.

For real a Republic. In character a Dictatorial Monarchy.
Gran Cienaga
21-03-2005, 01:20
I prefer a federal constitutional republic personally in character and real life
Potaria
21-03-2005, 01:20
A controlled Socialist Democracy, such as where people are allowed to vote, but control is given to everyone, not the tyrant majority.
Haloman
21-03-2005, 01:22
A controlled Socialist Democracy, such as where people are allowed to vote, but control is given to everyone, not the tyrant majority.

Uh-oh. The man is tryin to keep us down!

What you are talking about is where the government has complete control, and could technichally do anything they wanted, especially like opressing the minority.
The Mindset
21-03-2005, 01:25
Nippleocracy. A state controlled by people with nice nipples.

That, or a non-heriditary constitutional monarchy/dictatorship where the leader is chosen by the previous leader shortly before death from any eligible citizens, and a legislative senate with limited jurisdiction over domestic affairs.
Potaria
21-03-2005, 01:25
Uh-oh. The man is tryin to keep us down!

What you are talking about is where the government has complete control, and could technichally do anything they wanted, especially like opressing the minority.

Oh, is that what I'm talking about? No. I guess I should've said a Constitutional Democratic Socialist Republic... Then again, what I said was clear.

I do not advocate any sort of Communist government... One where the ruling body can make outrageous laws that strip away civil liberties and basic rights, much like what happened in the U.S.S.R.
Neo-Anarchists
21-03-2005, 01:28
Nice.

Pre-natal democratic superautocracracy.
How about a constitutional anticommunist gaiacentric corpocharismacracy?
Haloman
21-03-2005, 01:29
Oh, is that what I'm talking about? No. I guess I should've said a Constitutional Democratic Socialist Republic... Then again, what I said was clear.

I do not advocate any sort of Communist government... One where the ruling body can make outrageous laws that strip away civil liberties and basic rights, much like what happened in the U.S.S.R.

If control is given to everyone, then it is communism, and will eventually lead to the majority opressing the minority. You can't give control to everyone; most people are unfit to have any control of the government whatsoever.
The Mindset
21-03-2005, 01:32
Let's not turn this into a debate regarding the effectiveness of socialism/communism.
Potaria
21-03-2005, 01:33
Then control will have to be stripped, somehow. Selective voting, perhaps?

Or, how about a government where voting isn't necessary? One with a Constitution that is very clear and gives everybody complete civil liberties. Of course there would still be voting for electing officials, but said officials cannot change the laws written in the Constitution. Now these officials really wouldn't do much, besides protecting the laws written in the Constitution. They could introduce new ones, which would only be passed if they aren't authoritarian in any way.

Call it odd, but I think everybody would be better off if civil liberties were the #1 priority.
Haloman
21-03-2005, 01:34
How about a constitutional anticommunist gaiacentric corpocharismacracy?

Yeah; you win.
Haloman
21-03-2005, 01:36
Then control will have to be stripped, somehow. Selective voting, perhaps?

Or, how about a government where voting isn't necessary? One with a Constitution that is very clear and gives everybody complete civil liberties. Of course there would still be voting for electing officials, but said officials cannot change the laws written in the Constitution. Now these officials really wouldn't do much, besides protecting the laws written in the Constitution. They could introduce new ones, which would only be passed if they aren't authoritarian in any way.

Call it odd, but I think everybody would be better off if civil liberties were the #1 priority.

If they keep giving and giving civil liberties, where does it stop? And if officials can't change the laws, what purpose do the officials serve? The fact is that laws do need to be changed from time to time.
Potaria
21-03-2005, 01:40
You're correct. Laws would only be changed if they are considered to be authoritarian in later years. And, if a law simply doesn't make sense any longer, then away with it.

I'm not talking about Communism, here. I'm talking about 100% civil liberties for everybody, not the same level of wealth for everybody. I'm talking about government-controlled utilities, government housing for those who cannot afford otherwise, and universal healthcare.

High taxes, yes, but that's the point. Everybody prospers in one way or another, and even those who have no money at all have a chance at succeeding (free schools would help immensly).
Swimmingpool
21-03-2005, 01:49
Uh-oh. The man is tryin to keep us down!

What you are talking about is where the government has complete control, and could technichally do anything they wanted, especially like opressing the minority.
You are right. In the pure democracy described by Potaria, the majority could vote to take away, say... the marriage rights of a minority.
Potaria
21-03-2005, 01:50
You are right. In the pure democracy described by Potaria, the majority could vote to take away, say... the marriage rights of a minority.

Which is exactly what's happening in America.
Mystic Mindinao
21-03-2005, 01:56
A capitalist constitutional democracy, prefferably one for the entire planet.
Super-power
21-03-2005, 02:02
A capitalist constitutional democracy, prefferably one for the entire planet.
One-world government? As much as I support capitalism and democracy, I get nervous at centralized government power....
Mystic Mindinao
21-03-2005, 02:05
One-world government? As much as I support capitalism and democracy, I get nervous at centralized government power....
Only for political centralization. Besides, capitalist principles applied to states is war. War in the boundaries of international law, but war, nevertheless.
It is all good
21-03-2005, 02:23
What is my favcorite form of govt?

One that works right....

"I haven't found one yet !!"

:headbang:
Unistate
21-03-2005, 02:26
Worldwide Libertarianism, albeit with free schooling to any level requested (But with no restrictions on the private sector.).

And the police, of course. Completely independant and damned well funded.
Updates
21-03-2005, 02:32
a constitutional democratic communist state
Roach-Busters
21-03-2005, 02:56
post-anarcho-cryptoheirozooligarchy.

Twuh?
Potaria
21-03-2005, 02:56
Twuh?

Bunh?
Neo-Anarchists
21-03-2005, 02:57
Twuh?
A post-anarchic government by a small hidden holy council of animals.

(I just plugged a bunch of prefixes together. :D )
Heiligkeit
21-03-2005, 03:06
If i was leader of the government, dictatorship.

If I was a citizen, democracy.
Dontgonearthere
21-03-2005, 03:07
A Llamacrasy.
Whoever owns the most Llamas leads the govornment.
Heiligkeit
21-03-2005, 03:08
A Llamacrasy.
Whoever owns the most Llamas leads the govornment.
That sounds very interesting.
Neo-Anarchists
21-03-2005, 03:09
What we need is a Hypocracy!

[Notice my skillful replacement of "-isy" with "-acy"! How wonderfully witty!]
Dontgonearthere
21-03-2005, 03:11
That sounds very interesting.
Llamas pwn :D
Sesquipedalianism
21-03-2005, 03:14
I favor a form of monarchy in which advisors who have a valid say, but cannot bypass the dictator's veto. There is one advisor for each branch of interest, such as defense or agriculture, and all are chosen by the national courts.
Lries
21-03-2005, 03:14
None. Government is stupid and oppresive and inefficient.

I quote Desaparecidos:
You asked the state for aid, they gave you an ad campaign, it didn't help!
(Hole in One)

Well actually, if General Assemblies organized into Syndicates or a Federation is a form of Government, then General Assemblies organized into Syndicates or a Federation it is!

EDIT: A Llamacracy does sound interesting, but who's to say that the rights of alpaca, vicuna and guanaco owners aren't infringed? I think a Cemelidacry would be the best compromise.
Pan slavia
21-03-2005, 03:15
A theocracy governed by preist who decide god's will by dropping toast on carpet and gurgling margerin
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-03-2005, 03:17
My favorite form of government is Neo-Sunnism!

Well, actually, it is Parliamentary Democracy! Or ideally, a government controlled by me, where I can wear solid gold clothing and use 500-dollar bills as spliffs. And where all opium plantations are state-owned.
Eichen
21-03-2005, 03:25
Democratic Constitutional Republic
Arthymia
21-03-2005, 03:40
My favourite form of government? Draconarchy!
Nonconformitism
21-03-2005, 03:46
mine would be lack of,
but aside from that a neoluditian-technocracy
Dontgonearthere
21-03-2005, 03:47
Nobody else for Llamacracy? :P
Nonconformitism
21-03-2005, 03:48
Nobody else for Llamacracy? :P
sounds just like capitalism on the farm
Unistate
21-03-2005, 03:50
I'll take Citruscacy of Llamacracy any day of the week.
Nonconformitism
21-03-2005, 03:51
I'll take Citruscacy of Llamacracy any day of the week.
does that involve oranges voting?
Dontgonearthere
21-03-2005, 04:55
does that involve oranges voting?
Bah, those damn oragnes, they think theyre the only bloody citrus fruits on the block.
As we all know, the Lemon-Lime Revolution will come some day.
Neo-Anarchists
21-03-2005, 04:58
Bah, those damn oragnes, they think theyre the only bloody citrus fruits on the block.
As we all know, the Lemon-Lime Revolution will come some day.
It's the Anti-Orange Revolution!
Draconis Federation
21-03-2005, 04:58
Give me a constitutional moralistic dictatorship any day. That way you know who to blame when things go wrong.
Kervoskia
21-03-2005, 04:58
Bah, those damn oragnes, they think theyre the only bloody citrus fruits on the block.
As we all know, the Lemon-Lime Revolution will come some day.
You forgot the tangerine, someday you will bow down to their might.
My favorite form would have to be a Republic.
Dontgonearthere
21-03-2005, 04:59
You forgot the tangerine, someday you will bow down to their might.
My favorite form would have to be a Republic.
Tangellos are pretty popular as well, why, next election there might be one elected to the Senate!
Bill Mutz
21-03-2005, 08:15
Seperation between business and politics would be strongly enforced, I will hand you that tomato.
Free Soviets
21-03-2005, 08:42
ain't no government like no government
Fascist Squirrels
21-03-2005, 08:47
*glances over at name*

Why, squirrel-fascism, of course!
(please note that I am not fascist :D )
Passive Cookies
21-03-2005, 08:58
*glances over at name*

Why, squirrel-fascism, of course!
(please note that I am not fascist :D )
but more importantly, are you a squirrel?
The Plutonian Empire
21-03-2005, 09:57
My gov't:

Me in power, as always :D

Capitalocentric: the laws/ordinances passed in the Empire's Capital city are the laws throughout the entire land. And only the leader has the final say in ALL laws/ordinances.

Now, take this to a universal level.

The universe will be divided into groups, each one headed by a governor, whose only purpose is to maintain law and order, and help handle local disputes:

Galaxy Clusters
Galaxies
Solar systems
Planetary systems (a planet and it's companions/moons)
Planets
Moons
Continents
Cities

And that, my friends, is just the tip of the iceberg ;)
Ariddia
21-03-2005, 11:31
Pure communism. A society in which human beings would have become sufficiently ethically evolved no longer to need a government. It would be absolute democracy, justified by the inherent absence of selfishness in mankind. Of course, given the mentality of humans today, I doubt that will ever happen...
Unistate
21-03-2005, 13:30
Pure communism. A society in which human beings would have become sufficiently ethically evolved no longer to need a government. It would be absolute democracy, justified by the inherent absence of selfishness in mankind. Of course, given the mentality of humans today, I doubt that will ever happen...

Mainly because the Human need to have what one percieves as required is a natural, ingrained process; whilst it is overridden on a personal level, on a larger scale the only way to remove it is social engineering. This is not democratic.

A Citruscacy is a form of government where the governments are comprised mainly of Oranges and Lemons, although the Limes have been making gains in recent years.
Torching Witches
21-03-2005, 13:42
I don't care. As long as there's a buffet thrown in.
Delator
21-03-2005, 13:51
Ideally, Anarchy...but that'll never happen, so...

Federally the Government should consist of two parts.

Executive Council: This would be similar to the Cabinet in the U.S., except that they are not appointed by a chief exective, and none of them hold's "absoulte" power over the executive branch.

The exectutive council is composed of seven members; Sec of State, Sec of Defense, Sec of Treasury, Sec of Natural Resources, Sec of Social Affairs (not what it sounds like! :eek: ), Sec of Science and Technology, and Sec of Internal Politics

Every year a different Secretary is up for re-election by a simple majority. Terms for all Secretaries are seven years. Any or all Seceretaries may be placed up for recall elections by a 2/3 majority vote in the legislative body.

Legislative Body: Each district or province gets three representatives. These representatives serve 3 year terms, so that an election for one office in each province is held every year.

All new legislation, or modification of pre-existing legislation, brought forth to the Legislative Body by either a member, or by the Executive council must pass a 4/5 majority vote. Any legislation that fails the 4/5 majority vote, but exceeds 1/2, may be revised and re-submitted, but if it fails again to recieve 4/5, the bill is dismissed.

All bills passed in 4/5 majority by the Legislative council become law...however, they may, if approved by a unanimous vote of the Executive council, be put forth to a national referendum, requiring 2/3 majority to pass into law.

This complicated system is put forth so that; 1. Passage or revision of new laws is extremely difficult and 2. So a judicial branch at the federal level is largely unnecessary, except for federal criminal courts, since there are potentialy 3 levels through which a piece of legislation must pass through.



State Governments

State or Provincial governments have no legislative body...they have an exectuive council of 3 members. One member, the National Administrator, is the principal advisor to the Federal Legislative members of his district, and helps to decide what course the state should take. The second is an internal affairs administrator, dealing with state taxes, state law and the state economy. The last is an inter-state administrator, and works with neighboring inter-state administrators to help implement and enforce national and state laws and regulations in a more cohesive manner.

All executive, legislative and state governemtn members described above will, of course, have large staffs to help them, as they essentially comprise the whole of Federal Government. State Judical nominations by State internal affairs administrator must be passed by a simple majority vote of the population of that state. Federal Court Judicial nominations must be passed by unanimous vote of the Executive Council, and approved by 2/3 majority in the Legislative body...but the issue does not go to the general population.

Oh, and in the event of war, the Direct control of the Military goes directly under the Sec. of State.

Oh...and political parties are outlawed.

Sorry for the massive rant...that all came off the top of my head. Critiques are welcome. :)