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Best band of the seventies.

Dohnut
19-03-2005, 02:32
Tell me your best band of the greatest decade EVER.

For me, deep purple are way out in front. They practically invented Hard AND progressive rock, were the first "heavy" band, and had the greatest vocalist and the greatest guitarist ever to have lived. Plus, they haven't changed drummer since 1969. Iain Paice is still there. Now thats dedication.
Kejott
19-03-2005, 02:34
The Ohio Players in my opinion. I think Fopp is their greatest song EVER.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 02:39
Im afraid I must admit my ignorance. Care to elaborate on who they are/what they played?
Red Sox Fanatics
19-03-2005, 02:41
Kinda hard not to vote for Led Zepp in the 70's.
Bunnyducks
19-03-2005, 02:43
Yea, yea, all those... but I'm listening to Blind Faith right now... so that's gotta be the best. Had to cry today.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 02:44
That was my first thought. But then, i own an extensive collection of DP cd's and LPs, but not even a single single from zeppelin.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 02:46
This is all that I have to say.

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lglp0805.jpg
Nadkor
19-03-2005, 02:50
Stones* (if they count), Led Zep, The Who* (if they count)



*edit: im thinking they went from mid/late 60s into the early 70s as their 'prime'
Bunnyducks
19-03-2005, 02:52
No one shooting me down? I just said "Had to cry today" . It's 1969. Well... I enjoyed some "Peace Frog" before I typed that last post. Morrison Hotel isn't half bad... So I nominate the Doors (cause somebody nominated the Stones already)
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 03:04
Well, its 2 o' clock in the morning here, and i have assignments that need finishing b4 i leave uni 4 easter 2morro. Keep the nominations coming, and maybe a poll is in order.
Ps. Just chillin to "concerto for group and orchestra". I think bands that can hook up with classical somehow prove their musical skill, as Deep purple, rainbow, Metallica and Pink floyd have done. Good night.
Church of the Air
19-03-2005, 03:07
Genesis
Kejott
19-03-2005, 03:09
Im afraid I must admit my ignorance. Care to elaborate on who they are/what they played?

They are most famous for "Roller Coaster Of Love"
Soviet Narco State
19-03-2005, 03:10
Motörhead. Lemmy is God.
Madahajara
19-03-2005, 03:22
I second the Stones.
Zooke
19-03-2005, 03:23
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer - Tarkus

Stones - Sympathy for the Devil

nuff said.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 03:24
Motörhead. Lemmy is God.

They are great. I went to see them recently (few months ago). Right in front of the stage. Think i permanantly damaged my hearing. But it was worth it.
The Land of the Enemy
19-03-2005, 03:24
Queen!!!!
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Yes, if you didn't know, they were all queens.
Zooke
19-03-2005, 03:25
Queen!!!!

ssshhhhhh....not so loud please.
The Land of the Enemy
19-03-2005, 03:26
ssshhhhhh....not so loud please.

Sorry, had to get the word out somehow. :p
Potaria
19-03-2005, 03:27
ssshhhhhh....not so loud please.

Would you rather have these guys, then?

http://www.acc.umu.se/~samhain/summerofhate/copenhagenfrompete.jpg
Zooke
19-03-2005, 03:29
Would you rather have these guys, then?

http://www.acc.umu.se/~samhain/summerofhate/copenhagenfrompete.jpg

summer of hate? I'm from the summer of love. Woodstock 69!
Potaria
19-03-2005, 03:30
summer of hate? I'm from the summer of love. Woodstock 69!

Summer of Hate, god damnit! Best live performances ever, and by far the craziest.
Zooke
19-03-2005, 03:37
Summer of Hate, god damnit! Best live performances ever, and by far the craziest.

Huh. You weren't at Woodstock. THAT was THE live performance of all time, ever. Peace, love, and rock and roll.
Red Sox Fanatics
19-03-2005, 03:39
Huh. You weren't at Woodstock. THAT was THE live performance of all time, ever. Peace, love, and rock and roll.

Carlos Santana kicked ass.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 03:40
Huh. You weren't at Woodstock. THAT was THE live performance of all time, ever. Peace, love, and rock and roll.

I wasn't at either, but watching footage from both, I'd much rather have participated in the Summer of Hate.

Woodstock was completely boring and pretentious compared to the Sex Pistols' Scandinavian Tour in 1977.
Zooke
19-03-2005, 03:44
Santana always does! So many great performances...Joe Cocker, Country Joe, the Dead, Arlo, Janis, and especially Hendrix. It's where I first heard Santana and Ravi Shankar.
Zooke
19-03-2005, 03:46
I wasn't at either, but watching footage from both, I'd much rather have participated in the Summer of Hate.

Woodstock was completely boring and pretentious compared to the Sex Pistols' Scandinavian Tour in 1977.

Boring???? The last thing it was, was boring. If you mean because no one jumped up and down and screamed and cursed and acted like they had rabies, well no, that didn't happen at Woodstock. But believe me, no one was bored.

We didn't inject violence into our music. We had all the violence we could stand in Nam.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 03:55
Boring???? The last thing it was, was boring. If you mean because no one jumped up and down and screamed and cursed and acted like they had rabies, well no, that didn't happen at Woodstock. But believe me, no one was bored.

We didn't inject violence into our music. We had all the violence we could stand in Nam.

Well of course nobody was bored, they were all drugged up!

And the Pistols weren't about violence. They were against the violent Monarchist regime they had to live under, and their rage was put into their music. It was fast, it was raw, and it was perfect.

They weren't just a Rock 'n' Roll band. The Sex Pistols *were* Rock 'n' Roll.
Nadkor
19-03-2005, 03:58
Well of course nobody was bored, they were all drugged up!

And the Pistols weren't about violence. They were against the violent Monarchist regime they had to live under, and their rage was put into their music. It was fast, it was raw, and it was perfect.

They weren't just a Rock 'n' Roll band. The Sex Pistols *were* Rock 'n' Roll.
violent monarchist regime? :confused:

Sid Vicious couldnt even play bass very well (he didnt even play live)...says enough about the Sex Pistols for me
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:01
violent monarchist regime? :confused:

Sid Vicious couldnt even play bass very well (he didnt even play live)...says enough about the Sex Pistols for me

It says that you don't know much about the Sex Pistols.

He did play live. He actually played somewhat well during their Scandinavian tour. He started going downhill after that, when he met Nancy Spungen (who got him into heroin).

And, no, Glen Matlock wasn't kicked out of the band. He left because he and John couldn't get along, and Steve and Paul didn't like his good-old boy attitude.

And yes, violent. Violent towards the lower classes, and the Sex Pistols were at the very bottom of the class system.
Zooke
19-03-2005, 04:01
violent monarchist regime? :confused:

Sid Vicious couldnt even play bass very well (he didnt even play live)...says enough about the Sex Pistols for me

meh...he probably likes airplane food too. It's also fast and bad.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:03
meh...he probably likes airplane food too. It's also fast and bad.

So, you think they're a terrible band just because they don't play butt-rock riffs and 45-minute solos?
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 04:08
So, you think they're a terrible band just because they don't play butt-rock riffs and 45-minute solos?

Uhhh...Is there something im missing? or or you actually attacking the very heart of rock?
Brothertupelo
19-03-2005, 04:09
dylan was the best of the 60's and 70's. if you disagree with me, you're wrong.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:13
Uhhh...Is there something im missing? or or you actually attacking the very heart of rock?

Shall I take you back to the 1950's and show you what Rock 'n' Roll in the Honky Tonks was originally like? No 45-minute solos, and no butt-rock riffs.

The very heart and soul of Rock 'n' Roll is its intensity, its sense of rebellion, and its lyrics. Not flash, not glam, and definately not insane, unnecessary solos.
ElleDiamonique
19-03-2005, 04:16
Shall I take you back to the 1950's and show you what Rock 'n' Roll in the Honky Tonks was originally like? No 45-minute solos, and no butt-rock riffs.

The very heart and soul of Rock 'n' Roll is its intensity, its sense of rebellion, and its lyrics. Not flash, not glam, and definately not insane, unnecessary solos.


I agree.
You hit the nail right on the head regarding what Rock 'n' Roll is all about.
Ahhhhhh...now that's sweet music to my ears!
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 04:16
Shall I take you back to the 1950's and show you what Rock 'n' Roll in the Honky Tonks was originally like? No 45-minute solos, and no butt-rock riffs.

The very heart and soul of Rock 'n' Roll is its intensity, its sense of rebellion, and its lyrics. Not flash, not glam, and definately not insane, unnecessary solos.

Im sorry. But thats why i love Deep purple. They had the lyrics, the rebellion, AND the brilliant solos, wether they were guitar, vocal, keyboard or Drum. And no glam. They recorded their best album in a hotel with matresses for sound proofing. Their most famous track was written purely out of emotion, on the fly, as an album filler.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:17
I agree.
You hit the nail right on the head regarding what Rock 'n' Roll is all about.
Ahhhhhh...now that's sweet music to my ears!

Damn right!

Punk Rock was a musical movement to bring Rock 'n' Roll back to its roots. And it somewhat worked. I assume it would've been more successful if the Pistols didn't fall apart...
Nadkor
19-03-2005, 04:18
Shall I take you back to the 1950's and show you what Rock 'n' Roll in the Honky Tonks was originally like? No 45-minute solos, and no butt-rock riffs.

The very heart and soul of Rock 'n' Roll is its intensity, its sense of rebellion, and its lyrics. Not flash, not glam, and definately not insane, unnecessary solos.
you want intensity, rebellion and lyrics?

Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster

considering the context...
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:18
Im sorry. But thats why i love Deep purple. They had the lyrics, the rebellion, AND the brilliant solos, wether they were guitar, vocal, keyboard or Drum. And no glam. They recorded their best album in a hotel with matresses for sound proofing. Their most famous track was written purely out of emotion, on the fly, as an album filler.

But it was still pretentious asshole music! I like Deep Purple too, but they were not real Rock 'n' Roll.

And them writing a song as filler --- come on!
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:19
you want intensity, rebellion and lyrics?

Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster

considering the context...

I think I might've heard some Stiff Little Fingers before... I know I've heard of them, though.
Nadkor
19-03-2005, 04:21
I think I might've heard some Stiff Little Fingers before... I know I've heard of them, though.

There's nothin' for us in Belfast
The Pound's old and that's a pity
OK, there's the Trident in Bangor
And then you walk back to the city
We ain't got nothin' but they don't really care
They don't even know you know
They just want money
And we can take it or leave it
What we need is

(Chorus)
An Alternative Ulster
Grab it and change it it's yours
Get an Alternative Ulster
Ignore the bores and their laws
Get an Alternative Ulster
Be an anti-security force
Alter your native Ulster
Alter your native land

Take a look where you're livin'
You got the Army on the street
And the RUC dog of repression
Is barking at your feet
Is this the kind of place you wanna live?
Is this where you wanna be?
Is this the only life we're gonna have?
What we need is

(Chorus)

They say they're a part of you
And that's not true you know
They say they've got control of you
And that's a lie you know
They say you will never be
Free free free

Get an Alternative Ulster, Alternative Ulster, Alternative Ulster

from 1978
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:23
Methinks I'll give it a listen!

Edit --- Gave it a listen, and I like it a lot. Great, stripped sound. Very nice, indeed.
Emdeee
19-03-2005, 04:38
dude... QUEEN
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:42
dude... QUEEN

Yeah, they were good, but they were extremely pretentious butt-rockers.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 04:54
Oh, and I would like to add a runner-up for "Best Band of the Seventies"...

http://www.coolfer.com/blog/blog/images/Ramones2.jpg

The Ramones!
Alien Born
19-03-2005, 04:58
That was my first thought. But then, i own an extensive collection of DP cd's and LPs, but not even a single single from zeppelin.

Nor does anyone else. They didn't release singles.
Alien Born
19-03-2005, 05:01
dylan was the best of the 60's and 70's. if you disagree with me, you're wrong.

Then I'm wrong. Free/Bad Co. or Sabbath, or Led Zep, or DP, or Hawkwind, but not the zimmer man.
Bodies Without Organs
19-03-2005, 05:04
Nor does anyone else. They didn't release singles.

Incorwrong:

Singles

Good Times Bad Times / Communication Breakdown
March 10, 1969 (Atlantic 2613)

Whole Lotta Love (3:10) / Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)
November 7, 1969 (Atlantic 2690)

Whole Lotta Love (5:33) / Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)
November 7, 1969 (Atlantic 2690)

Immigrant Song / Hey Hey What Can I Do
November 5, 1970 (Atlantic 2777)

Black Dog / Misty Mountain Hop
December 2, 1971 (Atlantic 2849)

Rock and Roll / Four Sticks
February 21, 1972 (Atlantic 2865)

Over The Hills and Far Away / Dancing Days
May 24, 1973 (Atlantic 2970)

D'yer Mak'er / The Crunge
September 17, 1973 (Atlantic 2986)

Trampled Under Foot / Black Country Woman
April 2, 1975 (Swan Song SS70102)

Candy Store Rock / Royal Orleans
June 18, 1976 (Swan Song SS70110)

Fool In The Rain / Hot Dog
December 7, 1979 (Swan Song SS71003)
ElleDiamonique
19-03-2005, 05:18
Bee Gees
Sister Sledge
Earth, Wind, & Fire
Alien Born
19-03-2005, 05:29
Incorwrong:


Ooops. Sorry. The problem of being British. (As far as I know, there were no singles released in the UK.)
Bodies Without Organs
19-03-2005, 05:50
violent monarchist regime? :confused:

Sid Vicious couldnt even play bass very well (he didnt even play live)...says enough about the Sex Pistols for me


Nah: he did play live (not well though) - if anything he most probably didn't play in the studio though: Steve Jones appears to have done all the bass playing on the LP.
Kanabia
19-03-2005, 07:55
Led Zeppelin. Followed at some distance by Black Sabbath, who are tailed closely by Pink Floyd. :D
Potaria
19-03-2005, 08:00
Nah: he did play live (not well though) - if anything he most probably didn't play in the studio though: Steve Jones appears to have done all the bass playing on the LP.

Incowrong!

As it goes, Glen Matlock was paid as a session bassist for the album. For "Holidays In The Sun" and "Bodies", they lowered the volume of Glen's bass during post-production to give the tracks a raw sound. He did every single song on the album. Steve Jones did the basslines for the tracks, but they cut them out in favor of Glen's (because Glen was naturally better at the Bass than Steve).

Now, there are some rare cuts in the Sex Pistols Collection that have Sid on bass, and it's awful. Sub-Mission with Sid is quite nasty to listen to. Random string pluckings don't go well with such a smooth song.
Bodies Without Organs
19-03-2005, 09:32
Incowrong!

As it goes, Glen Matlock was paid as a session bassist for the album. For "Holidays In The Sun" and "Bodies", they lowered the volume of Glen's bass during post-production to give the tracks a raw sound. He did every single song on the album. Steve Jones did the basslines for the tracks, but they cut them out in favor of Glen's (because Glen was naturally better at the Bass than Steve).

Interesting.

I did sound at a Glen Matlock and the Philistines gig last year and it was funny hearing his guitarists talking about how they still couldn't get over having started out themselves learning how to play the intro to Pretty Vacant on shitty old accoustic guitars when they were about thirteen and then ending up playing in the man's band.
Ernst_Rohm
19-03-2005, 09:36
blue oyster cult
the clash
the new york dolls
motorhead
Potaria
19-03-2005, 09:39
Interesting.

I did sound at a Glen Matlock and the Philistines gig last year and it was funny hearing his guitarists talking about how they still couldn't get over having started out themselves learning how to play the intro to Pretty Vacant on shitty old accoustic guitars when they were about thirteen and then ending up playing in the man's band.

Holy fuck --- YOU did sound at a Philistines gig?
Bodies Without Organs
19-03-2005, 09:51
Holy fuck --- YOU did sound at a Philistines gig?

Yeah: it how I am attempting to make my living these days (doing sound at gigs in general, not Philistines gigs, obviously).
Potaria
19-03-2005, 09:54
Yeah: it how I am attempting to make my living these days (doing sound at gigs in general, not Philistines gigs, obviously).

Heh, you'd probably starve, seeing as those are few and far between.
The White Hats
19-03-2005, 10:10
'Best' is the wrong word to use, and the Seventies was a game of two halves, but favourite:

1. The Ramones (2nd half)
2. The Flamin' Groovies (1st half)

Honourable mention to Dr Feelgood for half-time entertainment.


(Actually, the first two were not just my favourite, they were also the best. Ever.)
Potaria
19-03-2005, 10:15
'Best' is the wrong word to use, and the Seventies was a game of two halves, but favourite:

1. The Ramones (2nd half)
2. The Flamin' Groovies (1st half)

Honourable mention to Dr Feelgood for half-time entertainment.


(Actually, the first two were not just my favourite, they were also the best. Ever.)

Wrong!

http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/9/242/images/00331441_lg.jpg

Ha!
The White Hats
19-03-2005, 10:22
Wrong!

http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/9/242/images/00331441_lg.jpg

Ha!
Dearly love them though I do, they lost out to my favourites on longevity grounds. Plus I never saw the Pistols live, whereas I saw the three I listed, and that's the acid test for bands for me.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 13:01
Dearly love them though I do, they lost out to my favourites on longevity grounds. Plus I never saw the Pistols live, whereas I saw the three I listed, and that's the acid test for bands for me.

I've never actually seen them live, but I did *watch* them live on the Jimmy Kimmel show back in 2003. They kicked ass, and even Mr. T loved it!

One wonders how they would've "matured" if they lasted longer. John's songwriting was getting progressively deeper and deeper, as was shown in his work with PIL.
Preebles
19-03-2005, 13:05
I'm gonna have to go with Queen, although this question is so hard! So many great and revolutionary bands were around in the 70's!

Led Zep, The Who, The Allman Brothers Band, and (I usually get shit for this) Simon and Garfunkel.

I so feel like a 70's child who got misplaced! :p
Niini
19-03-2005, 13:08
This is easy...

Pink Floyd :)
Potaria
19-03-2005, 13:12
I'm gonna have to go with Queen, although this question is so hard! So many great and revolutionary bands were around in the 70's!

Led Zep, The Who, The Allman Brothers Band, and (I usually get shit for this) Simon and Garfunkel.

I so feel like a 70's child who got misplaced! :p

Submit!

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/4510/beer.jpg

Nyah!!
Zarax
19-03-2005, 13:18
A bit late seventies but Dire Straits and Pink Floyd deserves their mention.
Zooke
19-03-2005, 14:21
Different folks-different strokes. I just don't like the whole punk/heavy metal sound. I tend more towards the sounds of Edgar Winter, Sanatana, The Who, Cream, Rush. IMO, Hendrix was a genius. And if you've never heard "Tarkus" by Emerson, Lake and Palmer, you need to give it a listen. It was years ahead of the industry.
Potaria
19-03-2005, 14:37
Different folks-different strokes. I just don't like the whole punk/heavy metal sound. I tend more towards the sounds of Edgar Winter, Sanatana, The Who, Cream, Rush. IMO, Hendrix was a genius. And if you've never heard "Tarkus" by Emerson, Lake and Palmer, you need to give it a listen. It was years ahead of the industry.

I agree. But if you wanna hear something that's light years ahead of everything, listen to this.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf100/f149/f149830ux2w.jpg

"PiL managed to avoid boundaries for the first four years of their existence, and Metal Box is undoubtedly the apex. It's a hallmark of uncompromising, challenging post-punk, hardly sounding like anything of the past, present, or future. Sure, there were touchstones that got their imaginations running -- the bizarreness of Captain Beefheart, the open and rhythmic spaces of Can, and the dense pulses of Lee Perry's productions fueled their creative fires -- but what they achieved with their second record is a completely unique hour of avant-garde noise. Originally packaged in a film canister as a trio of 12" records played at 45 rpm, the bass and treble are pegged at 11 throughout, with nary a tinge of midrange to be found. It's all scrapes and throbs (dubscrapes?), supplanted by John Lydon's caterwauling about such subjects as his dying mother, resentment, and murder. Guitarist Keith Levene splatters silvery, violent, percussive shards of metallic scrapes onto the canvas, much like a one-armed Jackson Pollock. Jah Wobble and Richard Dudanski lay down a molasses-thick rhythmic foundation throughout that's just as funky as Can's Czukay/Leibezeit and Chic's Edwards/Rodgers. It's alien dance music. Metal Box might not be recognized as a groundbreaking record with the same reverence as Never Mind the Bollocks, and you certainly can't trace numerous waves of bands who wouldn't have existed without it like the Sex Pistols record. But like a virus, its tones have sent miasmic reverberations through a much broader scope of artists and genres. [Metal Box was issued in the States in 1980 with different artwork and cheaper packaging under the title Second Edition; the track sequence differs as well. The U.K. reissue of Metal Box on CD boasts better sound quality than the Second Edition CD.]" --- Allmusic Review

Tracklisting
-----------

1: Albatross
2: Memories
3: Swan Lake
4: Poptones
5: Careering
6: No Birds
7: Graveyard
8: The Suit
9: Bad Baby
10: Socialist
11: Chant
12: Radio 4
I V Stalin
19-03-2005, 14:43
Talk about a difficult question. Take your pick from: Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP, The Ramones, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks, The Sex Pistols, Queen, Black Sabbath, David Bowie.
Tograna
19-03-2005, 14:44
metal fucking balloon. all the way
Gagfifax
19-03-2005, 15:50
I third the stones, zeppelin, the who and deep purple, but i also add KANSAS!!!


Carry on wayward sons. :headbang:
The White Hats
19-03-2005, 18:49
Different folks-different strokes. I just don't like the whole punk/heavy metal sound. I tend more towards the sounds of Edgar Winter, Sanatana, The Who, Cream, Rush. IMO, Hendrix was a genius. And if you've never heard "Tarkus" by Emerson, Lake and Palmer, you need to give it a listen. It was years ahead of the industry.
Please stop mentioning ELP - just about all of my friends were heavily into them at the time, and you're giving me this urge to go out and buy some of their stuff just so I can feel like a teenager again and remember why I never bought any of their stuff in the first place. :headbang:
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 19:44
Closing the thread. Move to part two...
Jjuulliiaann
19-03-2005, 20:58
The Clash weren't on there, so I voted Zeppelin.
Vittos Ordination
19-03-2005, 21:08
The Top 10 Bands/Artists of the 70's (in order):

10- Iggy Pop/The Stooges
09- T. Rex
08- Funkadelic
07- Led Zeppelin
06- Television
05- Rolling Stones
04- Marvin Gaye
03- The Clash
02- Stevie Wonder
01- David Bowie
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 21:24
Brings up an interesting point. I was specifically looking for bands, not individual artists, who need backing to complete their performance in any case. I dont think artists should take as much credit as bands. Even if they hook up with a permenant backing, i still think that its the band that makes them what they are, and not the individual who would otherwise flop.
Vittos Ordination
19-03-2005, 21:30
Brings up an interesting point. I was specifically looking for bands, not individual artists, who need backing to complete their performance in any case. I dont think artists should take as much credit as bands. Even if they hook up with a permenant backing, i still think that its the band that makes them what they are, and not the individual who would otherwise flop.

Are you serious?

Does that mean that if all of David Bowie's backing bands had gotten together and made an album it would have been the best album of the 70's? If Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell got together without Jimi Hendrix, they could have topped Purple Haze?

Remember that there are a million guitarists who can play "Stairway to Heaven" but it took Jimmy Page to compose it.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 21:39
Are you serious?

Does that mean that if all of David Bowie's backing bands had gotten together and made an album it would have been the best album of the 70's? If Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell got together without Jimi Hendrix, they could have topped Purple Haze?

Remember that there are a million guitarists who can play "Stairway to Heaven" but it took Jimmy Page to compose it.

Thats in no way what I mean. David Bowie was great, a musical genius. But he wouldnt have got where he was without help, because no matter how good his songs were, he CANT play drums, bass, organ, wind... etc and still manage to be great in terms of guitars and vocals. Now dont get me wrong, I love many tracks by individuals. But on their own, they would not have got where they were. So I dont think they deserve the credit of dedicated band members. Of course, thats just my opinion.
Jello Biafra
19-03-2005, 21:47
"Well c'mawn, well c'mawn,
'70s rock must die." - Lard

I only half agree with that sentiment. Incidentally, with regards to the poll, I voted for Black Sabbath.
Vittos Ordination
19-03-2005, 22:01
Thats in no way what I mean. David Bowie was great, a musical genius. But he wouldnt have got where he was without help, because no matter how good his songs were, he CANT play drums, bass, organ, wind... etc and still manage to be great in terms of guitars and vocals. Now dont get me wrong, I love many tracks by individuals. But on their own, they would not have got where they were. So I dont think they deserve the credit of dedicated band members. Of course, thats just my opinion.

So if I said "David Bowie and backing band", could I say that they are the best band of the 70's

EDIT: By your logic I assume that Ringo deserves as much credit as John or Paul.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 22:11
So if I said "David Bowie and backing band", could I say that they are the best band of the 70's

EDIT: By your logic I assume that Ringo deserves as much credit as John or Paul.

No. the beatle's as a whole desrve 70-80% of the credit, equally. John and Paul deserve the extra credit for writing. But a lot of people were fans of the "lesser" members. Dont forget that. not a lot of drummers could fill Ringo's shoes. Especially when you consider the quality of amny modern drummers. I quote Deep purple (Iain Paice) and motorhead (Mickey Dee.. GOD that guy can play. He didnt stop for hours at the concert. Including a solo of nearly fifteen minutes, before launching straight into the next song) as examples of good backing that contribute to the making of the overall band, but not generally to the creativity of the band.
Vittos Ordination
19-03-2005, 22:32
No. the beatle's as a whole desrve 70-80% of the credit, equally. John and Paul deserve the extra credit for writing. But a lot of people were fans of the "lesser" members. Dont forget that. not a lot of drummers could fill Ringo's shoes. Especially when you consider the quality of amny modern drummers. I quote Deep purple (Iain Paice) and motorhead (Mickey Dee.. GOD that guy can play. He didnt stop for hours at the concert. Including a solo of nearly fifteen minutes, before launching straight into the next song) as examples of good backing that contribute to the making of the overall band, but not generally to the creativity of the band.

You don't know much about The Beatles.

EDIT: But George also deserves a lot of credit, even though he generally only had two or three songs per album.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 22:34
No, I dont. Im generalising. But then, the Beatles weren't really a seventies band, and so not strictly relevant to the thread.

Edit: Im not a fan of the Beatle's personally, but I understand why other people are.
Vittos Ordination
19-03-2005, 22:36
No, I dont. Im generalising. But then, the Beatles weren't really a seventies band, and so not strictly relevant to the thread.

Edit: Im not a fan of the Beatle's personally, but I understand why other people are.

Consider this argument dropped.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 22:38
Consider this argument dropped.

Yours, or mine? I assume mine, but since there is no back up to your post, I really should disregard it. :rolleyes:
Vittos Ordination
19-03-2005, 22:48
Yours, or mine? I assume mine, but since there is no back up to your post, I really should disregard it. :rolleyes:

I meant both sides. It is off-topic and will go nowhere, so I say we just stop.
Dohnut
19-03-2005, 22:52
I meant both sides. It is off-topic and will go nowhere, so I say we just stop.

Fair enough. Back to the business in hand. I still hold to the fact that this is my thread, and i SPECIFIED bands. So, Ill only consider bands. Sorry, for all you others. Start your own thread, if you must, but otherwise: Best band of the seventies, as nominated by yesterday's NS users. Regiseter your vote NOW.
The Lagonia States
20-03-2005, 05:54
Chicago
Occidio Multus
20-03-2005, 09:18
TRIUMPH
Monkeys with Bananas
20-03-2005, 09:58
The Eagles, Poco, The Stones, Wings, Led Zeppelin, Creedence Clear Water Revival, Steely Dan, Grateful Dead, Bob Marley and the Wailers, Eric Clapton, The Beach Boys (Good Vibrations was amazing, and a 70's song if I remember right.) Santana, Pink Floyd, the Who, The Doobie Bros., and The Beatles (for their last album Let it Be.) Best bands easily.
Potaria
20-03-2005, 09:58
The Eagles, Poco, The Stones, Wings, Led Zeppelin, Creedence Clear Water Revival, Steely Dan, Grateful Dead, Bob Marley and the Wailers, Eric Clapton, The Beach Boys (Good Vibrations was amazing, and a 70's song if I remember right.) Santana, Pink Floyd, the Who, The Doobie Bros., and The Beatles (for their last album Let it Be.) Best bands easily.

I'm sorry, but the Grateful Dead were shit.
Monkeys with Bananas
20-03-2005, 09:59
Oh and I forgot Chicago, CSNY, and The Band.
Monkeys with Bananas
20-03-2005, 10:02
The Greatful Dead made blues riffs and solos acceptable, and created freedom from normal pop radio time restraints. Althought their music wasn't top notch, it was revolutionary and influential, an important band of the 70's. Not to mention good music for road trips.
Potaria
20-03-2005, 10:05
Whatever, but the tone, the riffs, and the vocals suck. If I wanna hear a band with the criteria you listed, I'll take The Who (though they didn't use many, if any, Blues Riffs).
Kanabia
20-03-2005, 10:08
Whatever, but the tone, the riffs, and the vocals suck.

Is that Mr. old-school punk fan speaking? :p ;)
The White Hats
20-03-2005, 10:13
Is that Mr. old-school punk fan speaking? :p ;)
No. This is Mr Old-School Punk fan speaking. The Grateful Dead were a fantastic band.
Monkeys with Bananas
20-03-2005, 10:13
The Dead were never meant to be beautiful. Their sound was cohesive and created emotion. And the Dead sound much better than many other bands out there. Especially any of the modern bands...
Kanabia
20-03-2005, 10:14
No. This is Mr Old-School Punk fan speaking. The Grateful Dead were a fantastic band.

Hey, I'm an old-school punk fan too. I'm just amused at the irony of Potaria, being a Pistols fan, stating "the tone, the riffs and vocals suck" :p
The White Hats
20-03-2005, 10:16
Hey, I'm an old-school punk fan too. I'm just amused at the irony of Potaria, being a Pistols fan, stating "the tone, the riffs and vocals suck" :p
Eh, too subtle for me this side of my first cup of coffee. ;)
Armadillo warriorz
20-03-2005, 10:26
The Greatest band of the seventies has got to be the clash
BackwoodsSquatches
20-03-2005, 10:28
Black Sabbath.

Period.
Palamenor
20-03-2005, 10:31
Led Zeppelin were the coolest but I can´t choose between Led and Pink Floyd being as they had different styles of music. I must say I don´t particullary like Deep Purple (just a few songs). Of course this is the choice according to the kind of music I like (and the god damn best concerts ever by Pink Floyd!)
Esrevistan
20-03-2005, 10:50
The Doors were pretty good. Not the greatest band in the seventies, but still pretty good.
Kanabia
20-03-2005, 10:53
The Doors were pretty good. Not the greatest band in the seventies, but still pretty good.

More of a 60's band.

And they get my vote for that decade.
Esrevistan
20-03-2005, 11:00
I thought they played into the early seventies. I'm wrong a lot though.
Kanabia
20-03-2005, 11:03
I thought they played into the early seventies. I'm wrong a lot though.

Sure, they did. But they started their career and became famous in the 60's.

(And note the lyrics in my sig :))
Jello Biafra
20-03-2005, 16:19
Sure, they did. But they started their career and became famous in the 60's.

(And note the lyrics in my sig :))
I take it that the lyrics are from a Doors song?
Kanabia
20-03-2005, 16:22
I take it that the lyrics are from a Doors song?

Yep. The song is called "Five to One", and is reputedly a reference to the Vietnam war.
Jello Biafra
20-03-2005, 16:27
Yep. The song is called "Five to One", and is reputedly a reference to the Vietnam war.
Oh, cool. I suppose I should really listen to more of the Doors, but I'm not especially a fan of classic rock. (Although I do like some of the other hippie bands, like the Jefferson Airplane.)
Hyperslackovicznia
21-03-2005, 13:43
This is another one of these "How the hell can you choose one?!" questions...

I have the misfortune of taking a required humanties class that extensively covers many of these bands. These bands are like comparing apples and eggplants! They're all too different to compare! Personal favs... Well, I have too many, and this poll is a short list. Can't deny Santana, Zep, Pistols... And I can't remember who else is on the poll, but I'll vote for someone... Randomly, because they all have their good points... Ahh... my head is spinning!!!! :cool:
Hyperslackovicznia
21-03-2005, 13:46
I had a friend who knew Jello... :)
Hyperslackovicznia
21-03-2005, 13:47
Led Zeppelin were the coolest but I can´t choose between Led and Pink Floyd being as they had different styles of music. I must say I don´t particullary like Deep Purple (just a few songs). Of course this is the choice according to the kind of music I like (and the god damn best concerts ever by Pink Floyd!)

I'm also on the Zep/Floyd see-saw... ;)
Majsju
21-03-2005, 13:52
A tie between Ramones and The Clash
Hyperslackovicznia
21-03-2005, 14:11
A tie between Ramones and The Clash

You got me there... Love 'em both... But they weren't on the poll. I personally adore the Damned, and a ton of bands no one has likely heard, or are a tad obscure... :rolleyes:
Squared Circles
21-03-2005, 16:36
You got me there... Love 'em both... But they weren't on the poll. I personally adore the Damned, and a ton of bands no one has likely heard, or are a tad obscure... :rolleyes:

I've heard of The Damned.

But anyway... my favorite artist of the 70's is probably Brian Eno. Can, Neu!, Kraftwerk, Wire, Pere Ubu, and Television are up there as well.
Swimmingpool
21-03-2005, 19:02
Thin Lizzy!
You Forgot Poland
21-03-2005, 19:07
Big Star!
Hyperslackovicznia
22-03-2005, 12:33
I've heard of The Damned.

But anyway... my favorite artist of the 70's is probably Brian Eno. Can, Neu!, Kraftwerk, Wire, Pere Ubu, and Television are up there as well.

Brian Eno is a highly talented writer and arranger. One of the top minimalists... Actually one of the first. :)

WIRE!!! :D Woohoo!!!!
Squared Circles
22-03-2005, 22:57
Brian Eno is a highly talented writer and arranger. One of the top minimalists... Actually one of the first. :)

WIRE!!! :D Woohoo!!!!

Indeed. His work with Roxy Music is top notch, as well. He just covered such a wide spectrum of music in the 70s, from his ambient series, to his "pop" albums like Another Green World, and not to mention him producing artists from Bowie to Devo. It's a shame he's not more well known today.

And yes, he arranged quite a bit of minimalist work, but his innovations were heavily influenced by the phasing and tonal techniques of classical minimalist composers like John Cage, Steve Reich, LaMonte Young, and Terry Riley. His innovations were more that he was able to work all that magic in the studio- the instrument with which he was most proficient- and make the sounds more palatable and accessible to a wider audience, as opposed to the people I named, who were often cold and mechanical in their approach and sound textures, using orchestras and tape loops as opposed to synthesizers.

Oh yeah, and Wire's first three albums before they broke up = pure genius. Then they tried to follow New Order after they got back together, and it was wretched.