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A registered sex offended confessed to killing a 9 year old girl that was kidnapped here in Florida. I can tolerate adult on adult crime, but when people do it to children it pisses me off to no end and it makes me want to go to every sex offender's house and beat the shit out of them. I am so mad right now I really feel like doing that. :mad:

There's nothing that can be done to these animals that would be too extreme. Lifelong hideous torture sounds pretty damn good to me. I'm a parent of two, by the way.

Then why dontcha do it? I mean, it'll be no problem if you've got nothing to lose, you know?

Take heart in the fact that when convicted, this sicko will either face the death penalty, or go to prison; a place where the other inmates really express their distaste for child molesters. :p

At least this guys in prison for life, i hope? You could beat the shit out of all low life convicts, but i t may take a while. I have a better method for child rapists :sniper:

Take heart in the fact that when convicted, this sicko will either face the death penalty, or go to prison; a place where the other inmates really express their distaste for child molesters. :p

That would seem about right... Sometimes... But the death penalty for that? Come on.

That would seem about right... Sometimes... But the death penalty for that? Come on.

We should have the death penalty for everything

Why? What good does getting so angry do? It doesn't bring the poor girl back. It certainly doesn't help things like this from happening in the first place. I suggest you not get so worked up and fuming like this.

We should have the death penalty for everything

Yes! Especially for stealing a loaf of bread!

By god, that's BRILLIANT!!

That would seem about right... Sometimes... But the death penalty for that? Come on.

For kidnapping and murdering a child? Yes. I think the death penalty is a distinct possibility. But if you're in favor of maximum cruelty and malice toward these scum, maybe we should send him to prison. :)

What's really tragic is this guy was a registered sex offender. I saw interviews with the victim's family and the neighbors on either side of them, and none of them knew there was a registered sex offender in their neighborhood. All of them had small children. When are decent peoples' rights, especially children's, going to start taking priority over the rights of sick people like this guy? My husband and I are both so upset and angry!!

For kidnapping and murdering a child? Yes. I think the death penalty is a distinct possibility. But if you're in favor of maximum cruelty and malice toward these scum, maybe we should send him to prison. :)

Actually, I'm in favor of just leaving him in solitary confinement. Then he could think about what he's done, and really regret ever doing it.

And yeah, I think that they should've made it clear that he was a sex offender. A sign in his front yard would've done wonders.

Yes! Especially for stealing a loaf of bread!

By god, that's BRILLIANT!!

No not just for crimes. For EVERYTHING.

Why? What good does getting so angry do? It doesn't bring the poor girl back. It certainly doesn't help things like this from happening in the first place. I suggest you not get so worked up and fuming like this.
Thats the spirit, im tto tired to talk sense into you people right now, but i hope Sda as the good corner on this one.

PS. Death penalty = NO!

A registered sex offended confessed to killing a 9 year old girl that was kidnapped here in Florida. I can tolerate adult on adult crime, but when people do it to children it pisses me off to no end and it makes me want to go to every sex offender's house and beat the shit out of them. I am so mad right now I really feel like doing that. :mad:

Hey man, be sure to call me before you go so I can pick up my bat and join in the fray. I really, really hate them aswell.

Granted, we have a hard enough time trying to keep the death penalty legal for first degree murder, but I would have no problem giving it to rapists and child molestors.

PS. Death penalty = NO!

I like the way you think.

I like the way you think.

what if they used the death by chocolate method?

The county opened up a half-way house next door to a co-worker's home. The people in the neighborhood were notified that there was a sex offender in the house. When one of the guys tried to lure my friend's 2 daughters (13, 15) over to talk, her husband went over and threatened to kill him if he ever approached his children again. The police were called and they warned my friend's husband that if he did something like that again, they would arrest him. About 2 weeks later this guy grabbed a little girl heading for the school bus stop, raped her, and half beat her to death.

what if they used the death by chocolate method?

Hmm... Too sweet, I think. How about eating a bathtub full of beans?

The county opened up a half-way house next door to a co-worker's home. The people in the neighborhood were notified that there was a sex offender in the house. When one of the guys tried to lure my friend's 2 daughters (13, 15) over to talk, her husband went over and threatened to kill him if he ever approached his children again. The police were called and they warned my friend's husband that if he did something like that again, they would arrest him. About 2 weeks later this guy grabbed a little girl heading for the school bus stop, raped her, and half beat her to death.

When are they going to learn that you can't rehabilitate these animals.

what if they used the death by chocolate method?

How about death by withholding food and water? Florida has already determined this is a humane form of euthanasia.

What's really tragic is this guy was a registered sex offender. I saw interviews with the victim's family and the neighbors on either side of them, and none of them knew there was a registered sex offender in their neighborhood.
In Rhode Island, where I live, they're trying to pass a bill that would let people check the whereabouts of registered sex offenders on the web. Normaly I would be against this because criminals don't all ways want to keep a life of crime, and it would make it hard for pereviously convicted criminals to get a normal life, but I think sex related crimes are among the worst, so because it would do so much to protect people that I am okay with it.

No, probably that death where they give you a drug to make you sleep so deep you die off is good enough. Or maybe that's just too nice. A couple stabs in the groin would be a long enough and painful enough death for rapists and child molesters.

I probably should not encourage vigilantism but what the hell, if you really want to go on a sex offender killing spree you could always just look them up online here:

http://www3.fdle.state.fl.us/sexual_predators/search.asp?

In Rhode Island, where I live, they're trying to pass a bill that would let people check the whereabouts of registered sex offenders on the web. Normaly I would be against this because criminals don't all ways want to keep a life of crime, and it would make it hard for pereviously convicted criminals to get a normal life, but I think sex related crimes are among the worst, so because it would do so much to protect people that I am okay with it.

We've had that in Alaska for a few years now.

Death is far too good for these scum. There is no punishment adequate for sexual crimes against children.

I theorise that we object to cruelty/crime against children so much more than adults because we conceive (Subconciously) that an adult might be 'deserving' of it - or at least that there is an understandable motivation. Whilst doing the same things against children can, in our minds, have no motivation other than sadism. (The same can possibly be applied to rape; it is a crime of pure sadism, unlike murder and such, which might have 'justification'.)

When are they going to learn that you can't rehabilitate these animals.

:confused: Gays are born gay...yet pedeophiles and rapists can be rehabilitated. Just doesn't make sense, does it?

Why? What good does getting so angry do? It doesn't bring the poor girl back. It certainly doesn't help things like this from happening in the first place. I suggest you not get so worked up and fuming like this.
Youre right that it doesnt help, but its an understandable emotion to carry over something like this. Perhaps being angry isnt so bad, but rather, one needs to channel that energy into something positive - like using it for fuel to figure out why people do these things, and then taking preventetive measures to keep them from doing it.

Furthermore, killing someone is (IMO) the worst possible way of dealing with it - and so is wishing that the person be raped him/herself in prison. In an ideal society (which I know we do not live in) the effort would be placed on investigating the sickness that is in these people rather than wishing them ill will.

Death is far too good for these scum. There is no punishment adequate for sexual crimes against children.

I theorise that we object to cruelty/crime against children so much more than adults because we conceive (Subconciously) that an adult might be 'deserving' of it - or at least that there is an understandable motivation. Whilst doing the same things against children can, in our minds, have no motivation other than sadism. (The same can possibly be applied to rape; it is a crime of pure sadism, unlike murder and such, which might have 'justification'.)

I think crimes against children offend our natural instincts to protect our young. That they are so small and innocent, offends our sensibilites.

Youre right that it doesnt help, but its an understandable emotion to carry over something like this. Perhaps being angry isnt so bad, but rather, one needs to channel that energy into something positive - like using it for fuel to figure out why people do these things, and then taking preventetive measures to keep them from doing it.

Furthermore, killing someone is (IMO) the worst possible way of dealing with it - and so is wishing that the person be raped him/herself in prison. In an ideal society (which I know we do not live in) the effort would be placed on investigating the sickness that is in these people rather than wishing them ill will.

Now that's more like it. Bravo, man, bravo!

All I know is, when I have children and some peice of shit tries to lure my children over I'm going to bitch slap him until his eardrums pop and blood oozes out of his ears. :gundge:

In Rhode Island, where I live, they're trying to pass a bill that would let people check the whereabouts of registered sex offenders on the web. Normaly I would be against this because criminals don't all ways want to keep a life of crime, and it would make it hard for pereviously convicted criminals to get a normal life, but I think sex related crimes are among the worst, so because it would do so much to protect people that I am okay with it.

I would propose that if these 'people' are still enough of a risk or this to be a percieved requirement, that they should not be out of prison. Once you've done your time though, you've done your time. However much I might object to it.

Gays are born gay...yet pedeophiles and rapists can be rehabilitated. Just doesn't make sense, does it?

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Are you questioning the fact that homosexuality is 'incurable', or are you questioning that sexual offenders can be rehabilatated?

The county opened up a half-way house next door to a co-worker's home. The people in the neighborhood were notified that there was a sex offender in the house. When one of the guys tried to lure my friend's 2 daughters (13, 15) over to talk, her husband went over and threatened to kill him if he ever approached his children again. The police were called and they warned my friend's husband that if he did something like that again, they would arrest him. About 2 weeks later this guy grabbed a little girl heading for the school bus stop, raped her, and half beat her to death.
Uggh. That's really awful. do you know what happened to the bastard?

I would propose that if these 'people' are still enough of a risk or this to be a percieved requirement, that they should not be out of prison. Once you've done your time though, you've done your time. However much I might object to it.
yeah. And we are being a bit unfair here. Some criminals weren't in there right minds when they commited there crimes, IE drunk, or slightly insane, and others did the wrong thing, recognise that, and honestly want to change for the better.

I think crimes against children offend our natural instincts to protect our young. That they are so small and innocent, offends our sensibilites.

Mmmm, yes, I agree. I was trying to get at the innocence idea, but I probably didn't word it too well.

It must really suck to be a sex offender

Youre right that it doesnt help, but its an understandable emotion to carry over something like this. Perhaps being angry isnt so bad, but rather, one needs to channel that energy into something positive - like using it for fuel to figure out why people do these things, and then taking preventetive measures to keep them from doing it.

Furthermore, killing someone is (IMO) the worst possible way of dealing with it - and so is wishing that the person be raped him/herself in prison. In an ideal society (which I know we do not live in) the effort would be placed on investigating the sickness that is in these people rather than wishing them ill will.

I am against the death penalty. But something about these monsters that prey on children makes me want to maim, maul, and kill them. I can't bear to think of the fear and pain that baby went through.

A registered sex offended confessed to killing a 9 year old girl that was kidnapped here in Florida. I can tolerate adult on adult crime, but when people do it to children it pisses me off to no end and it makes me want to go to every sex offender's house and beat the shit out of them. I am so mad right now I really feel like doing that. :mad:

i totally agree we should go to every sex offenders house and castrate them with a rusty knife and then brake there fingers with a slugehammer oh and also piss on there head :sniper: :gundge: :fluffle:

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Are you questioning the fact that homosexuality is 'incurable', or are you questioning that sexual offenders can be rehabilatated?

What he's hinting at is the idea that some sexual behaviors are said to be in born, and others are said to be "curable." Seems to be a contradiction.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Are you questioning the fact that homosexuality is 'incurable', or are you questioning that sexual offenders can be rehabilatated?

I believe that we are born with our sexual tendancies. If it is agreed that gays cannot be "turned", why does our society insist that pedeophiles and violent rapists can be rehabilitated? We're locking these people up for their crimes, and turning them loose when their time is served. When are we going to realize that they will not change their sexual orientation, are a permanent threat to society, and put them away forever?

Uggh. That's really awful. do you know what happened to the bastard?

He ended up getting 7 years...he'll be up for parole in less than 3. And this wasn't his first offense. What's really interesting, I work across the street from the county court house. Everytime he was scheduled for court someone would call in a bomb threat. This happened 4 times in 3 days. We had more courthouse employees in our office than we had chairs. They finally had his trial with no advance notice at midnight.

I am against the death penalty. But something about these monsters that prey on children makes me want to maim, maul, and kill them. I can't bear to think of the fear and pain that baby went through.
I'm sure most people feel that way - theres nothing fundamentally wrong with having such emotions over issues like this. There is something fundamentally wrong with acting on them in a way which lowers your level of morals though. They who fight a fighter, are a fighter as well - we mustn't forget that.

As I was saying - we need simply to find a way to channel that negative energy into accomplishing positive goals. :)

What he's hinting at is the idea that some sexual behaviors are said to be in born, and others are said to be "curable." Seems to be a contradiction.

psst I'm a she. Grandma She.

I believe that we are born with our sexual tendancies. If it is agreed that gays cannot be "turned", why does our society insist that pedeophiles and violent rapists can be rehabilitated? We're locking these people up for their crimes, and turning them loose when their time is served. When are we going to realize that they will not change their sexual orientation, are a permanent threat to society, and put them away forever?
I don't think that's really fair. not everyone is like you say it is. Some do regret what they did, and they try hard to change. That does not exuse what they did, but it isn't fair to automaticaly assume that all sex offenders are insane, evil lunatics who can't change!

I'm sure most people feel that way - theres nothing fundamentally wrong with having such emotions over issues like this. There is something fundamentally wrong with acting on them in a way which lowers your level of morals though. They who fight a fighter, are a fighter as well - we mustn't forget that.

As I was saying - we need simply to find a way to channel that negative energy into accomplishing positive goals. :)

I know, and that is what I do. I am an activist for children's rights in my state. However, if someone ever hurt one of my grandchildren, I don't know that I would be able to take the high road.

Sex offenders ruin (in the case described take away) a young innocent life.

Sex offenders should have electronic implants for constant monitoring of their whereabouts.

Discloure of their residence in a community should be compulsory.

That would be both humane to all parties and protect the innocent from further attacks...cant very well carry out a crime if you are tagged by GPS can you..or if you do the FBI'll get you in a few hours.

The reality is that FEW hardcore criminals including sex offenders CANNOT be reformed...its a fallacy....and utter BS

I have family used to be in law enforcement and hard core criminals are too far gone...armed robbery, child molestation, rape...when a criminal has gone that far they dont turn back...think about it... I have seen of cases where the 'I am reformed' when they cme out of prison ...and shortly after running racket again...

reform? load of BS :rolleyes:


TAG ALL 'serious offeners'..armed robbery, etc....it will give the police the chance to prevent further violence! :cool:

I don't think that's really fair. not everyone is like you say it is. Some do regret what they did, and they try hard to change. That does not exuse what they did, but it isn't fair to automaticaly assume that all sex offenders are insane, evil lunatics who can't change!

They may be sorry, but that doesn't change their sexual orientation. Sexual predators are every bit as much mental deviants as psychopaths. No doubt some serial killers are sorry for what they did, but would continue to kill if given the opportunity. It's a mental deviation.

On a side note, I feel that there is another side to this which has not really been tapped on.

When I was living in Calgary, a 'sex offender' was moved into Okotoks (a small suburb south of the city)

This young man, who was in his twenties, was forced to leave after he was found living with his aunt and her children (a violation of his parole). His identity had been revealed by an overzealous 'protectorate' organization earlier that year, and his life made a living hell by it. He was unable to leave his home for fear of being beaten, and was effectively ostracized by the community.

Ordinarilly I might have said, because of the spin put on the case by the media, that he was getting his just treatment for actions he had taken. The media made him sound like a monster. As it turned out, his 'rape' was consentual sex with a fifteen year old when he was eighteen, and he was charged with statutory rape by the girls parents. He was suffering from severe depression as a result of events that had happened to him subsequent to these charges. He was pushed out of his community, lost friends who did not want to be associated with him, was raped in jail... and on and on.

I won't keep going with this story, but I post this as a reminder: The media has definite bias, as do a lot of the over zealous organizations which label most sex offenders as monsters. Not all of them are as the media would have you beleive - so before you run off half cocked talking about wishing these people harm... think about what you might be doing.

I know that some sex offenders are truly monsters, but even under the darkest most dangerous visage - there exists a human to be sure. Remember that.

I won't keep going with this story, but I post this as a reminder: The media has definite bias, as do a lot of the over zealous organizations which label most sex offenders as monsters. Not all of them are as the media would have you beleive - so before you run off half cocked talking about wishing these people harm... think about what you might be doing.

I know that some sex offenders are truly monsters, but even under the darkest most dangerous visage - there exists a human to be sure. Remember that.

I don't agree with the humanity of these people. But, I gave up debate for Lent, and I have pretty well earned some time on my knees saying my Rosary with this thread. I should have tried to give up something that I could stick to...like air. At least her family won't have to be tortured with not knowing where their little girl is.

http://www.morgannick.com/

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2005/03/18/85370.html

Couey has an extensive criminal record that includes arrests for burglary, carrying a concealed weapon and indecent exposure. In 1991, he was arrested in Kissimmee on a charge of fondling a child under age 16. Records don't show how the case was resolved.

During a house burglary in 1978, Couey was accused of grabbing a girl in her bedroom, placing his hand over her mouth and kissing her, Dawsy said. Couey was sentenced to 10 years in prison but was paroled in 1980.

2 years on a 10 year sentence!!

I don't agree with the humanity of these people. But, I gave up debate for Lent, and I have pretty well earned some time on my knees saying my Rosary with this thread. I should have tried to give up something that I could stick to...like air. At least her family won't have to be tortured with not knowing where their little girl is.
Well, my point was that some of the people branded by certain organizations are not who they are made out to be. I do think that this sort of behavious is disgusting and so morally reprehensible that it chills me even to think about it. But despite the fact that these people are horrible human beings, they are still human - theres nothing that changes that. I do think that they should be kept away from children in some cases - perhaps even away from the populace in general. However, some of them do not deserve this treatment, they just get it by proxy - which I find incredibly unfortunate and sad. Honestly I do not know what the best way to deal with monstrous offenders is - but I do think that more time could be spent defining the differences between offenders rather than painting them all with the same brush.

This brings up a good question. What's worse, when the male actually rapes the female or when the female accuses the male of rape?

Well, my point was that some of the people branded by certain organizations are not who they are made out to be. I do think that this sort of behavious is disgusting and so morally reprehensible that it chills me even to think about it. But despite the fact that these people are horrible human beings, they are still human - theres nothing that changes that. I do think that they should be kept away from children in some cases - perhaps even away from the populace in general. However, some of them do not deserve this treatment, they just get it by proxy - which I find incredibly unfortunate and sad. Honestly I do not know what the best way to deal with monstrous offenders is - but I do think that more time could be spent defining the differences between offenders rather than painting them all with the same brush.

I agree. I too have seen a young man's life ruined because he was barely legal and the girl wasn't quite legal. Whenever I see something like that and I see someone like John Couey, it becomes more and more apparent that our laws are not based on common sense and logic.

This brings up a good question. What's worse, when the male actually rapes the female or when the female accuses the male of rape?

Two different crimes. Rape is a crime of violence. False accusation is an act of revenge. Both crimes destroy a person's life.

This brings up a good question. What's worse, when the male actually rapes the female or when the female accuses the male of rape?
Well thats just it isnt it ... theres such a balck cloud around the word itself (and perhaps its deserved) but as soon as someone is even accused of rape, their name somehow ends up on these vigilates lists. If a male actually rapes a female - then yes, its worse, no question. But if he is wrongfully accused (as is often the case), or if he has been convicted of (as in the case I presented) statutory rape after having consetual sex with a minor, and one not that many years his junior... perhaps there ought to be certain concessions made!

I gotta quit this. Talk to y'all week from Sunday.

Hail Mary, full of grace...

I agree. I too have seen a young man's life ruined because he was barely legal and the girl wasn't quite legal. Whenever I see something like that and I see someone like John Couey, it becomes more and more apparent that our laws are not based on common sense and logic.
Exactly. :(

I gotta quit this. Talk to y'all week from Sunday.

Hail Mary, full of grace...
Ciao bellissima

They can NOT change. It's in a psychiatric way, impossible. They are the way they are. It is their sexual ORIENTATION, as much as being homosexual or heterosexual is a sexual orientation. These offenders CANNOT be let out. They WILL re-offend. That's all there is to it. They need to be, if not in prison for life, segregated in special prison like communites and not be allowed out ever.

There is a saying, which applies to everyone... whether it be serial killers, rapists, child molesters, homosexuals, heterosexuals: "What gets you off, gets you off". It doesn't change and anyone who thinks these people can be rehabilited is delusional. I've studied this a LOT and spoken w/professionals (Psychiatrists, therapists, etc., on the subject and they have said the exact same thing.)

Life in prison is more of a hell than the death penalty, therefore I believe that to be more appropriate. Aside from that, with appeals, etc., it actually costs more to execute a prisoner than to leave them in prison for life. (I have quite a bit of background in criminology, psychiatry, and sociology, BTW.)

My point, is just that it is not possible for them to change... The morons who let them out after ONE offense ought to also be held responsible in some regard.

OK, I'm done w/my rant now! :headbang:

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Hype... Ranty... @ large... ;)

Ciao bellissima

Ciao!

:confused: Gays are born gay...yet pedeophiles and rapists can be rehabilitated. Just doesn't make sense, does it?

I just noticed this... and pedophiles and rapists CAN'T be rehabilitated... It doesn't make sense as it is untrue. :mad:

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Hype, yet again... :rolleyes:

I just noticed this... and pedophiles and rapists CAN'T be rehabilitated... It doesn't make sense as it is untrue. :mad:

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Hype, yet again... :rolleyes:

Keep reading my posts. I have been supporting your argument. We are born with our sexual orientation. Deviant sexual orientation that harms others, must be dealt with as a lifetime affliction and these people must not be allowed to prey upon society.

This is what should happen to anyone who sexually molests a child. Click on link for picture of the whipping.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1756&e=3&u=/050316/481/vah11003161513

An Iranian judiciary officer, whips, Mohammed Bijeh, convicted of raping and murdering 16 children, before he was hanged, in public in Pakdasht, Iran (news - web sites), a town outside the capital Tehran, Wednesday, March 16, 2005. (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)

What he's hinting at is the idea that some sexual behaviors are said to be in born, and others are said to be "curable." Seems to be a contradiction.

Is it a contradiction to say that some diseases are incurable while others can be cured?

They can NOT change. It's in a psychiatric way, impossible. They are the way they are. It is their sexual ORIENTATION, as much as being homosexual or heterosexual is a sexual orientation. These offenders CANNOT be let out. They WILL re-offend. That's all there is to it. They need to be, if not in prison for life, segregated in special prison like communites and not be allowed out ever.

There is a saying, which applies to everyone... whether it be serial killers, rapists, child molesters, homosexuals, heterosexuals: "What gets you off, gets you off". It doesn't change and anyone who thinks these people can be rehabilited is delusional. I've studied this a LOT and spoken w/professionals (Psychiatrists, therapists, etc., on the subject and they have said the exact same thing.)


The comparasion of child molestation to homosexualailty is a falicious one. It is an error of catagoriziation. One cannot lump all of these groups into the same catagory. One cannot even lump all child molesters in the same catagory.
"what gets you off, gets you off" is also a fallacious argument. It is a 'style over substance' statement. It may be persuasive because it sounds good but it doesn't actually say anything. It is essentially an attempt to distract from that fact that sexual behavior is caused by complex variables that are not yet fully understood.

It is easy to attack the first assertion. Statisticly, most child mollesters were themselves mollested as children. This suggests that the later contributes to the former.
One can draw one of two conclusions from this fact. Since intervening human acts can contribute to the deviance then intervening human acts can help to correct it.
The second conclusion is that, if rehabilitation is impossible, then all molestation victims should themselves be locked up for the good of society.

It is also fallacious to argue that it is impossible to change one's sexual orientation. I tis a "from Ignorance" fallacy. That is, because it has not been proven to be true then it must be false or that because the opposite has not been proven to be false then t must be true.
In reality, there have been serious scientific attempts to change sexual orientation. To do so would require a level of brainwashing that might be considered unethical. However, just because it has not been done doesn't mean that it is impossible.

Life in prison is more of a hell than the death penalty, therefore I believe that to be more appropriate. Aside from that, with appeals, etc., it actually costs more to execute a prisoner than to leave them in prison for life. (I have quite a bit of background in criminology, psychiatry, and sociology, BTW.)

That's interesting. I would tend to think that it would cost more to keep a person in prison for life rather than killing them up front.

After all, how much does a rope and a structure to hang the rope from cost? ;)

I am totally opposed to the Death Penalty. To offer execution as a punishment for crime shows utter disdain for a nation's citizens. Thankfully we in Australia aren't animals to be culled.

In contrast to this, however, I think that the death penalty is a bit of a cop-out, considering the seriousness of offences like murder, rape and sexual molestation of children. If you're dead, you won't have the chance to realise what filthy scum you are. You escape the hate of the population and the taunts, threats and actions that the aforesaid hate imposes.

Keeping prisoners in prisons costs money, mainly in wages for staff. I used to work with young offenders, so I understand that working with adult prisoners would be a god-awful, stressful and at times highly violent career. What if we set prisoners to work, and made them forfeit the greater part of their income for the maintenance of the judicial system?*

*Ideas may or may not reflect the ethical standpoint of the author.

Send him to the prison and have the inmates molest HIM.

o this is your anus before prison

O This is your anus after prison.

Send him to the prison and have the inmates molest HIM.

o this is your anus before prison

O This is your anus after prison.

You say that like anal is a bad* thing?

*Author may or may not have been offered anal by boyfriend as part of a loving consentual relationship.

In Rhode Island, where I live, they're trying to pass a bill that would let people check the whereabouts of registered sex offenders on the web. Normaly I would be against this because criminals don't all ways want to keep a life of crime, and it would make it hard for pereviously convicted criminals to get a normal life, but I think sex related crimes are among the worst, so because it would do so much to protect people that I am okay with it.

That also exists in Florida. Here is the website:

http://www3.fdle.state.fl.us/sexual_predators/

The problem is that it doesnt work and never has. This person was in fact listed on the database.

They can NOT change. It's in a psychiatric way, impossible. They are the way they are. It is their sexual ORIENTATION, as much as being homosexual or heterosexual is a sexual orientation. These offenders CANNOT be let out. They WILL re-offend. That's all there is to it. They need to be, if not in prison for life, segregated in special prison like communites and not be allowed out ever.

That is most definitely not all there is to it. That is a gross oversimplification of a complex issue. You are right in that a method for changing someones sexual orienation has not been discovered and that pedosexuality is a sexual orientation, however that doesnt change the fact that because these people are human beings they can choose not to act on their sexual desires. The fact of the matter is that someone who is an alcoholic is an alcoholic for life, yet they can still choose never to drink again, and many do. The same is true of a pedophile. Yes, they will always be pedophiles but they can also choose to remain celibate, just like many people do for a variety of different unrelated reasons.

You also failed to account for the fact that most people who commit sex crimes against children are not true pedophiles at all. A pedophile as is recognized by the psychological community is someone who is primarily sexually attracted to children. Studies have shown that most perpetrators of child sexual abuse are men who actually preffer women as sexual partners. Due to a lack of an adequate sexual partner, and often as a result of substance abuse, these people turn to children for sex because they are convenient. This is actually the most prevalent form of sexual abuse, and those whose crimes fit into this category are very easy to rehabilitate. The criminal justice system reffers to these people as pedophiles, but they do not fit the psychological definition. Psychologists dub these people situational pedophiles in order to differentiate between them and true pedophiles (prefferential pedophiles). Situational pedophiles are very easy to rehabilitate.

That's interesting. I would tend to think that it would cost more to keep a person in prison for life rather than killing them up front.

After all, how much does a rope and a structure to hang the rope from cost? ;)

It isn't the cost of the execution, it is the cost of 20-25 years of endless appeals.

OK, in my opinion, send them to a maximum security prison for life. Give them nothing to do, put them in a padded room, force feed them, and make sure they have no way to hurt themselves. If they decide to stop breathing, shove a tube down their throat if you want. Point is, they will be BEGGING for death after 60 years of sheer and utter torture (AKA boredom and bad food). The death penalty is the end, and it only hurts for a bit. Make them hurt for life instead. Feel free to quote me on my own original quote here:

Do not respond to violence with violence. Do not kill those who you are mad at. Instead, drag it out (nonviolently) for life.

Due to the ambuiguous laws of today, and the lack of any wisdom in interpreting them (basically, an "apply them to everything you can"), there are sex offenders currently in our society that are completely harmless to anyone, be it children, disabled persons, or adults. Why?

Because the scope of a "sex offence" today can be anything from photographing NON-NUDE 15yo girls that may be posing slightly provocatively (but again I ask, is this the fault of the photographer, or of the judge who decides it is a sexual enticement?), to people who have given out photographs of themself online while they were as yet under age for doing such (notable stories concern a 15yo girl who gave out nude photographs of herself).

Its a shame we don't think about what exactly a "sex offence" is. It has been so watered down, that practically Anything can be a sex offence if the law bothers to apply it as such. Yet we always see Anyone who is a Sex Offender, as having commited the worst of the worst possible cases to obtain that label - when this is 99% of the time, totally untrue.