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What is your favorite? Personally mine is 8, closely followed by 7 and 10. Tactics was good as well.

The only one I haven't played is 11, and the only one I really hate is 9 although X-2 was rather bad as well. 9 is the absolute worst game of the series.

I'll get into why I made my choices later on. I just want to get this poll up.

Final Fantasy VI

Everything after is not worth bearing the name. VII maybe, but not the rest.

Fran

Final Fantasy VI

Everything after is not worth bearing the name. VII maybe, but not the rest.

Fran

I take it you're an oldtimer?

No, 11 is definitely the worst. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.

No, 11 is definitely the worst. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.

Like I said I haven't played it...as a college student I can think of *ahem* better ways of spending $15 a month. Still, 9 was so horrible...I just can't excuse it...

I take it you're an oldtimer?

If this discussion wasn't about videogames, I'd take this as an insult. :P

Fran

Like I said I haven't played it...as a college student I can think of *ahem* better ways of spending $15 a month. Still, 9 was so horrible...I just can't excuse it...

Take my word for it. 11 is the worst.

If this discussion wasn't about videogames, I'd take this as an insult. :P

Fran

It's just been my experience that people who played the old ones religiously don't get into the new ones as much. I started with 7, played 8, and then went back in time.

8, very closely followed by 7. I just prefer the overall feel and plot of 8 to any of the others. Five is quite good, mind. Even a little difficult. But 8 takes the cake.

I like Final Fantasy IV the best, followed very closely by Final Fantasy VII, followed even more closely by Final Fantasy IX.

I must admit at first I was blown away by FFX's presentation, but it quickly got old. The stories are not of the same quality, and much of the game length is coming from cut-scenes.

But you are partly right: Nostalgia plays into the whole thing. Games nowadays sometimes seem like work to me, the fun is gone. Of course there are exceptions, but in my opinion the 3D graphics lustering has ruined too much of the experience. I never really wanted realism (not in all games, anyway), I want phantasy and creativity.

Fran

how could you lump VI in with V, you should put V with III, they were very similar. I should go with IV, but VI should bear it's own. and X-2 should be lumped with X and tactics shouldnt' even be listed, or if it is list it with II.

No, 11 is definitely the worst. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
did you ever play 2? I know 11 was bad, but I still can't get over 2

how could you lump VI in with V, you should put V with III, they were very similar. I should go with IV, but VI should bear it's own. and X-2 should be lumped with X and tactics shouldnt' even be listed, or if it is list it with II.

Oh quiet...if it was up to me I'd have 13 catagories...but it's not up to me. Tactics should be listed and it's a completely different game than II, and if X-2 was with X no one would vote for a good game.

Oh quiet...if it was up to me I'd have 13 catagories...but it's not up to me. Tactics should be listed and it's a completely different game than II, and if X-2 was with X no one would vote for a good game.
I didn't mean to sound flamebaity in that, but I really think VI should be listed on it's own, and definatly not with V. I said X should be listed with X-2 because, even though one of them may be good and the other sucked, X-2 was just a continuation of X. and tactics I never played so I really don't know too much about it.

9 followed closely by 7 and 8

9 was absolutely horrible.... I mean, the main character had a tail. That says it all! :p

FF6 is probably my favorite because of the 17-18 (cant remember exact #'s) characters you can get (I like games with more characters), and the different choices you get when you reach a certain point in the game when the party splits.

So far we have 4 miserable people...lol

What is your favorite? Personally mine is 8, closely followed by 7 and 10. Tactics was good as well.

The only one I haven't played is 11, and the only one I really hate is 9 although X-2 was rather bad as well. 9 is the absolute worst game of the series.

I'll get into why I made my choices later on. I just want to get this poll up.

Sir, you bring such a tear of joy to my eye as to render me incoherent and Victorian English in tone.

Indubitably IX is the worst of the series - whilst a reasonable game in its own right, it is a risible insult to the fine title 'Final Fantasy'. The host will note that after very little deliberation I chose FFX myself, for whilst I would typically answer VII, I come to suspect this is based partly on nostalgia. Augmenting this deliberation is the matter that VII will inevitably gain great exultations, whilst X might be so misfortunate as to be overseen by many other fine patrons.

XI becomes rather tedious after a short while - I would suggest City of Heroes or World of Warcraft in its stead. FFVIII is similarly to VII and X a sublime masterpiece in execution and style.


FF6 is probably my favorite because of the 17-18 (cant remember exact #'s) characters you can get (I like games with more characters), and the different choices you get when you reach a certain point in the game when the party splits.

I must enquire as to whether your good body has partaken in the pleasure of Chrono Cross? It's raft of characters is appreciable, nay recrementitious, and within the confines of its two lovely discs you shall find numerous personalities with whom one might enjoy the imbibement of a fine libation.

So far we have 4 miserable people...lol

I suppose its a relief that no one has voted for X-2... yet, that is.. :)

I must enquire as to whether your good body has partaken in the pleasure of Chrono Cross? It's raft of characters is appreciable, nay recrementitious, and within the confines of its two lovely discs you shall find numerous personalities with whom one might enjoy the imbibement of a fine libation.

It is with great joy that I can say that I have played Chrono Cross, and have a deep appreciation for it. The amount of characters available is overwhelming, causing me to repeatedly drool while playing the game, or even thinking of it. :)

I quite much liked the gameplay in 9. Although the characters themselves are rather boring and the story is confusing, but the magic system and the summons are cool. And moogles aren't so bad actually. Although they can get on my nerves sometimes. Oh and Vivi was a tragic figure kinda :p

9 was made to satisfy the oldtimers who were whining about 7 and 8 as the PSX was in its dying days. It just seemed thrown together and incomplete. The characters, gameplay, and story simply were not as professional and deep as the other comparitive games. It was like Final Fantasy Lite or Diet FF.

9 was made to satisfy the oldtimers who were whining about 7 and 8 as the PSX was in its dying days. It just seemed thrown together and incomplete. The characters, gameplay, and story simply were not as professional and deep as the other comparitive games. It was like Final Fantasy Lite or Diet FF.
It's just that FF9 had totally weird characters. Not many of them were humanoid, so it's actually the most Final *Fantasy* game I've ever played, while especially FF7 and FF8 are somewhat sci-fi-apocalyptic stories based on humanoid characters and love stories :P

Ok, so FF9 had a love story between a humanoid boy (although he has a tail Zidane is humanoid) and Garnet - a girl princess who transforms from a spoiled but somewhat depressed royal family member to an adventurous rebel :P

Final Fantasy VII is actually my favourite game of all time. All time. I really think it has everything (except graphics).

It must be the only RPG in the world where one of the main characters (Aeris) dies in the process of the game. Who knows about the Aeris secret? Well they orginally intend to resurrect Aeris in the third disk but were forced to remove it for space reasons. Thats why you get the key to Midgar later on. And if you use that key to get to Aeris' church, you will actually see Aeris (albeit briefly) standing in the Church. Its a shame really, I liked her as a character. It was possibly one of the saddest game moments ever when she died.

It also has the best villian. Who can forget Sephiroth, the most evil git of all time? He is a bloody tough boss too - I have Knights of the Round, all the best materia and weapons and I still have to plan way ahead before I can beat him.

Best story line too. Some many twists and turns.

FF8 is also very good - I love the way they took the romantic angle on it. Best game romance ever me thinks. Unfortunately the world was bit lacking in variety (too few big cities) and the villain (a sourceress you got to meet once at the end) was substandard by FF terms.

FF9 is slated alot although I think its fairly decent. Good characters and a great story line once again make it a game worth buying but the villian is so gay it is unbelievable.

FF10 - Very good although I dislike the change in world map system (before you could wonder the world as a sort of massive person). However a firm story, the best graphics of an FF yet, the best combat system of an FF yet make it brillaint.

FFX2 - a lame attempt to create a direct sequel. Squaresoft - dont do it again.

i havnt got a ps2 so i havnt played anything later than 9.
im hopeless at videogames.iv never completed any of the final fantasys, and i really wish i could. i put 8 as my favourite, but i like 6, 7 and 9 as well. i played 9 first, when i was recovering from being in hospital, and it sought of saw me through 2 weeks of misery. The earlier ones are better though. ;)

kuja is gay, isnt he.

7 then 9. I never got on with 8.

Do I sense some homophobia there? :eek:

(I like games with more characters)
Ever play Suikoden (check spelling)? It has hundreds of characters.

kuja is gay, isnt he.Ein Deutscher]Do I sense some homophobia there?
In a non-momphobic way, i'm inclined to agree with Learnia. Watch him closely in the cutscenes, his overall appearance, etc. and you get the vague feeling of... gayness. Maybe it's just me.

7 had the best plot + characters, 8 was just plain dull, 9 was better than 8 but worse than 7. By the time 10+ came out it all looked a bit too silly for me. Still plan to do some retro gaming with 1-6 though. :)

I reckon FFVII by quite a distance. Best storyline ever, even if the characters were constructed out of drinks cartons :D

I didn't like the way they did the magic in FFVIII, drawing spells and having a certain number of each spell etc. Made magic little more than items.

ugh... how can anyone like VIII? It had such terrible terrible characters! The GF system was not very interesting... I found it to be a really really big disappointment... IX was crap too. Much worse than VIII was and probably the worse ever... Sadly I know some friends who do enjoy it... Actually I take it back... X-2 is the worst. There is no question about that in my mind.

As for games I like, I love VI. It had a great storyline and lots of cool (well-developed characters, save the mime and the yeti.) The esper system was really cool, and was one of the reasons I came to like VII as much as I do. I think the materia and esper system are very similar and were very good ideas. I also love FFT and think it is one of the best 'Final Fantasy's ever made, though then they shamed it with that piece of crap Tactics-Advance... As for XI, I think it is a good game, but if you dont know how to play it, can get very tedious. The important part in that is to have a lot of friends and don't just worry about lvling. You need to mix it up with skill building and just occasional questing. Hanging out with friends and having awesome LS events make the game really cool.

As for the rest, I am indifferent... They are all alright - very good, but didn't make this rant.

ugh... how can anyone like VIII? It had such terrible terrible characters! The GF system was not very interesting... I found it to be a really really big disappointment...

How can you say that the characters in VIII, widely regarded as some of the best RPG characters in existance, are so "terrible?" I'm at a loss for words.

As for the GF system, personally I loved it. I loved the customization it allowed and how after I mastered it my characters were exactly how I wanted them to be.

I didn't like the way they did the magic in FFVIII, drawing spells and having a certain number of each spell etc. Made magic little more than items.

This, along with Squall's personality, is the most common complaint. Still, I thought it was kinda original. How many games have MP or AP or something? FFVIII was in a more "realistic" world, and "drawing" spells somehow made more sense to me. Also, the generic spell format normally makes one or two characters "the magic users," while FFVIII avoids this completely. Using the GFs, you can make any character the "magic user" or whatever.

8 was just plain dull

Explain yourself, heathen!

I can't personally see all the dislike of FFX-2. Maybe because I'm happy just to get more time in Spira, maybe because it paves the way for hordes of WakkaxLulu fics, but I think mainly because I loved having an FF game where the characters just had fun most of the time. Yeah, it was a fairly cynical attempt to use sex to sell, but they've been doing that since they discovered polygons and made Tifa. I liked the battle system, and I really liked the New Game + business - far more RPGs would benefit from allowing you to go through again with similar things.

Oh, and yeah, Chrono Cross has loads of awesome characters. Suikoden has tons of awesome characters. II is the best of those, but the others are all great as well.

I can't personally see all the dislike of FFX-2.

It just had that spice girls/charlie's angels "girl power" feel about it. That and like you said, they just had fun. This took away from the game imo. I wanted the drama. I wanted the sense that it was in fact "final" in some way.

I realy loved FF 7 but I also liked X and X-2.

FFIX wasn't the worst btw more like after X-2

FF III has always been my favorite, followed by VII. I've played pretty much all of them except X-2. I couldn't get into X enough to even consider picking up X-2.

VIII.....never actually got through it though. Didn't have the patience to get more HP.

It just had that spice girls/charlie's angels "girl power" feel about it. That and like you said, they just had fun. This took away from the game imo. I wanted the drama. I wanted the sense that it was in fact "final" in some way.

Mmm, undoubtedly so, which means I guess it's just a matter of personal taste =P I can certainly see your side of things, though.

Explain yourself, heathen!
Battles: You are punished if you use magic, because it lowers your stats. Drawing takes up valuable battle time, and is just plain annoying.

Squall levels up faster than the rest of your party, and mosters level is set by Squalls level, so everyone dies.

The main climax is when Squall rescues Rinoa from the Sorceress Memorial. But then there's a whole lotta fighting that no one cares about.

The whole game was also kinda western, and a bit, well, dull, as i said before. For a Final Fantasy game it all seemed a bit non-fantasy for me.

However, everyone is welcome to their own opinions, some people do seem to like it a lot so w00t to them. However, as they have their opinions, i have my mine, and i didn't like FFVIII and thought Squall was a poncy git who needed a good slap.

Final Fantasy VI. The first half of the game was orchestrated perfectly. It flowed like a movie. Sure, the plot lost itself a bit after the ordeal in that magic town (bah, forgot the name), but the outstanding graphics and music made up for it.

damn this poll

you forgot: every ff game sucks
damn turn-basedness, that is like the most evil thing ever or something
at least the first ff games were a bit playable, but then it went to sony's playstation (i hate that word) and everything went from bad to worse

sorry but i just HATE rpg's (specially when they're turn-based)

go play real games (or no games at all), you pathetic lost souls, and kneel to the supreme being of: the SOCIAL LIFE

and did anyone ever notice squall looks really um... gay?

damn this poll

you forgot: every ff game sucks
damn turn-basedness, that is like the most evil thing ever or something
at least the first ff games were a bit playable, but then it went to sony's playstation (i hate that word) and everything went from bad to worse

sorry but i just HATE rpg's (specially when they're turn-based)

go play real games (or no games at all), you pathetic lost souls, and kneel to the supreme being of: the SOCIAL LIFE

and did anyone ever notice squall looks really um... gay?

Well aren't we ignorant today, ye of 3 posts? Real games? Like what? OMG TONY HAWK PRO SK8TR!!!!111 You tell us to get a life, and yet here you are, trolling on the internet. Don't come back, loser.

...and I think squall would look gay if he had perfectly gelled hair with highlights and flipped his wrist alot while wearing tight sparkly shirts and the latest fashion in pants. Luckily, he just has long hair. Long hair hardly makes you gay.

Well aren't we ignorant today, ye of 3 posts? Real games? Like what? OMG TONY HAWK PRO SK8TR!!!!111 You tell us to get a life, and yet here you are, trolling on the internet. Don't come back, loser.

...and I think squall would look gay if he had perfectly gelled hair with highlights and flipped his wrist alot while wearing tight sparkly shirts and the latest fashion in pants. Luckily, he just has long hair. Long hair hardly makes you gay.

I never understood the deal with ff games.

they are so insanely linear, why not just watch some bad science fiction instead of playing a "game" like ff.

Give me a real rpg like baldor's gate or morrowind anyday.

I never understood the deal with ff games.

they are so insanely linear, why not just watch some bad science fiction instead of playing a "game" like ff.

Give me a real rpg like baldor's gate or morrowind anyday.

Baldurs Gate? Baldurs Gate? Don't make me laugh bitterly in a cloud of spittle and scorn. Baldur's Gate is an RPG for those who want an action game - in short it is the noob (if you will pardon the term, I do not usually make use of it) RPG, full of flashy lights and gaudy attractions. I played Baldurs Gate II after a friend recommended to me and I found it had no pulling power whatsover. After a day I grew tired of trying to discern the shapes of what were supposedly dwarves from amongst the barely 3D graphics and so threw it into my draw, where it lies to this very day, gathering dust. Which, incidentally, is the best use for it.

Linear indeed! That might be true of FFX and FFX2 but of the others? Never!

Baldurs Gate? Baldurs Gate? Don't make me laugh bitterly in a cloud of spittle and scorn. Baldur's Gate is an RPG for those who want an action game - in short it is the noob (if you will pardon the term, I do not usually make use of it) RPG, full of flashy lights and gaudy attractions. I played Baldurs Gate II after a friend recommended to me and I found it had no pulling power whatsover. After a day I grew tired of trying to discern the shapes of what were supposedly dwarves from amongst the barely 3D graphics and so threw it into my draw, where it lies to this very day, gathering dust. Which, incidentally, is the best use for it.

Linear indeed! That might be true of FFX and FFX2 but of the others? Never!


ummmm EVERY FF game except for the very crappy online version is linear. Baldor's gate noobish? wtf? What is FF then? Its zelda with more spiky hair.

I think 7 is the best.

9 is really good too.

I think you are confusing Baldur's Gate I and II for PC, which were great RPGs, with Baldur's Gate - Dark Alliance I and II, which were Diablo clones and no RPGs at all.

Fran

I think you are confusing Baldur's Gate I and II for PC, which were great RPGs, with Baldur's Gate - Dark Alliance I and II, which were Diablo clones and no RPGs at all.

Fran


yup i think that was the problem.

IMO console rpgs = the suck whereas computer rpgs generally are much better.

yup i think that was the problem.

IMO console rpgs = the suck whereas computer rpgs generally are much better.

Eh...ignorance and bias don't make up good opinions. FF7 and FF8 are genious examples of storytelling. They're interactive movies...living books...

I think you are confusing Baldur's Gate I and II for PC, which were great RPGs, with Baldur's Gate - Dark Alliance I and II, which were Diablo clones and no RPGs at all.Oh dear lord yes! i was quite fond of Baldur's Gate after playing it on the PC. Then i played the console version. And cried.

However...
Give me a real rpg like baldor's gate or morrowind anyday.Especially if you get all the expansions with it. I played Morrowind SOOO much longer than i played any FF game.

And finally...
...and I think squall would look gay if he -snip- in pants. Luckily, he just has long hair. Long hair hardly makes you gay. Squall had long hair? Didn't notice. Squall wasn't gay, IMO he was a poncy git, but he was never gay.
go play real games (or no games at all), you pathetic lost souls, and kneel to the supreme being of: the SOCIAL LIFEThis part drains away any last traces of class and dignity from your post. I agree with Steel Butterfly's suggestion, "Don't come back, loser". Go on, shooo!

IMO he was a poncy git!

I don't know if he was really all that concerned with his "outward appearance". IMO he didn't really care, but like I said, that's just IMO. Yeah, Squall was an asshole at times, but that might be why I loved him as a character. He just seemed different from a lot of other characters I had played as, and some of his replies were hilarious. I also liked his introverted approach, as we all saw his thoughts and whatnot. I can relate to that in many ways.

I don't know if he was really all that concerned with his "outward appearance".As far as outward appearance goes he looked pretty good (a little too good, possibly why i called him a poncy git, especially as myoutward appearnace is considerably less so :D ), but he often came accross as plain arrogant, which was a huge turn off as it were. Hmmm.. i just applied the phrase "turn off" to a computer game. I wonder if i'm a geek? Oh well, to late now.

Ooh, flashback! Don't ask why, but i just remebered in FFVII, just before final set of big boss battles + ending, when Cloud turns round to everyone and says "Alright, let's mossey" or something similar, then Cid rips the piss out of him. Did anyone else think that was a superb bit o humour to stick in just before the final fight? I mean, the timing!

Eh...ignorance and bias don't make up good opinions. FF7 and FF8 are genious examples of storytelling. They're interactive movies...living books...

Thats why I said earlier; why not buy a bad science fiction movie, its the same as playing a ff game. FF is NOT a RPG. Its linear and poor story telling.

This would make a excellent FF game:

1) You wake up not knowing who you are
2) You meet a chick from your past who knows who you are but doesnt tell you as she enjoys teasing you
3) You meet a few characters along a set path of advancement. You cannot choose your path in any way. (choosing between going to for example, chobo town or crazy super town is not a choice, its a branch)
4) You get a hint that the world will be destoryed via
a) A force sucking out the earth's life force, gia, etc etc
b) A gaint dooms day weapon from some alien power based on earth or on the planet "cliche"
c) da lack of love in the life force of the "life tree" or someother fruity symbol. If it dies we are doomed as it is the central important structure, beast or mineral of some kind that keeps the world in one piece.
d) The "villian's" cronies are really just misunderstood and will join your team, that is if they dont they escape and you end up fighting them later
e) You will have a final battle and at which will discover your hidden talents and be able to defeat the end boss and save the "life tree" the "gia" the whatever.

THE END
:rolleyes:

Nah, what was cool about the good FF games was the steampunk-feeling. Too bad they completely abandoned that.

And, honestly, the BGs - and other PC-RPGs - weren't that different in storytelling, you only had like a bazillion sidequests to make you loose track. ;)

Fran

Thats why I said earlier; why not buy a bad science fiction movie, its the same as playing a ff game. FF is NOT a RPG. Its linear and poor story telling.

FF is by definition an RPG. It is also intentionally linear. Being linear enables it to have a better story. Sure, Fabel's an open-ended RPG...but it blew hard...so no one cares. Final Fantasy is no a bad science fiction movie by any means. It's an apocolyptic tale set in a world steep in magic and mythology. A group of characters come together to save the world. If anything, it's a bad fantasy movie (hense the name...) but it's hardly bad. (excluding 9 and X-2 naturally)

Oh well, opinions differ.

-snip-

All I can say is try playing Final Fantasy 6, leaving all bias behind just for a bit. A lot of your suggestions for a good RPG game reminded me of FF6.

damn this poll

you forgot: every ff game sucks
damn turn-basedness, that is like the most evil thing ever or something
at least the first ff games were a bit playable, but then it went to sony's playstation (i hate that word) and everything went from bad to worse

sorry but i just HATE rpg's (specially when they're turn-based)

go play real games (or no games at all), you pathetic lost souls, and kneel to the supreme being of: the SOCIAL LIFE

and did anyone ever notice squall looks really um... gay?
You do realize you're spending your time traveling online to dis people for their choice in game.
I'd say you have about as much "social life" as everyone else.

Sir, you bring such a tear of joy to my eye as to render me incoherent and Victorian English in tone.

Indubitably IX is the worst of the series - whilst a reasonable game in its own right, it is a risible insult to the fine title 'Final Fantasy'. The host will note that after very little deliberation I chose FFX myself, for whilst I would typically answer VII, I come to suspect this is based partly on nostalgia. Augmenting this deliberation is the matter that VII will inevitably gain great exultations, whilst X might be so misfortunate as to be overseen by many other fine patrons.

XI becomes rather tedious after a short while - I would suggest City of Heroes or World of Warcraft in its stead. FFVIII is similarly to VII and X a sublime masterpiece in execution and style.



I must enquire as to whether your good body has partaken in the pleasure of Chrono Cross? It's raft of characters is appreciable, nay recrementitious, and within the confines of its two lovely discs you shall find numerous personalities with whom one might enjoy the imbibement of a fine libation.


In FFXI, what job did you play as and what level did you get to? You understand COH and WoW have no endgame right? I guess it's about how much time you have. Tu'Lia is nice to see at level 66...

FFXI isn't a great FF game, but a deep MMORPG. Favorite console FF is Tactics, becuase it had the best battle system IMO.

You do realize you're spending your time traveling online to dis people for their choice in game.
I'd say you have about as much "social life" as everyone else.

I was expecting some replies like that, and i only use the internet when im so bored i almost fall asleep on my chair and don't even feel like playing guitar (in which i rock by the way :P) or getting out and get drunk with my friends anymore

but this time i'm simply bored at school so i got some time to say something back to the people that think they're cool cause they play games on a friggin playstation (is still hate that word)

right? right...

VI, no questions asked. VII in a close second. The only one that deserves to be called bad is XI, its just that I have heard absolutely nothign good about it.

(Hey, nice bell-curve in the poll.)

My FF preferences (of the ones I have played):

V
VII
VIII
I (The PS remake; the original NES game was nigh impossible.)
IV
VI
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IX

Haven't played III or X and up, and only played a little of II

(Hey, nice bell-curve in the poll.)

6,7, and 8 seem to be winning. Funny that more people aren't voting for 10. It's probably my third favorite.