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Is human happiness fleeting?

Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 20:45
It's odd. I wanted an I-Pod very badly, I got one. Suddenly, I want a labtop.

Is human happiness fleeting?
Potaria
18-03-2005, 20:46
Maybe for some people (like my brother) who just can't seem to buy enough things.
Oksana
18-03-2005, 20:50
No,I would not say happiness is fleeting. Neither of those would have made you happy in the first place. That is just want. Want comes and goes. If you suppress your want, then you'll be able to control your happiness.
Markreich
18-03-2005, 20:51
Happiness does not equate to material objects.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 20:51
Needs are limitless.
Realize your limits and you will be happy.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 20:52
No. Getting a laptop or Ipod isn't happiness. Well it is.. temporary.. All happiness is temporary. But it's definitely not fleeting.

Happiness keeps us sane, a feel good feeling that everything around us is under control.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 20:52
Happiness does not equate to material objects.
Of course it does.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 20:52
Needs are limitless.
Realize your limits and you will be happy.

Isn't that supposed to be 'wants'?
Potaria
18-03-2005, 20:53
Isn't that supposed to be 'wants'?

Yes, it is.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 20:54
Isn't that supposed to be 'wants'?

No, it is specifically limits.
Most people wants always more stuff because they think this way they can compensate for what they thinks are their lacks or limits... Mass mediatic culture is a git :p

Oh, Potaria could you please avoid talking on my behalf? Thanks.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 20:54
Of course it does.

Then you are clearly mistaken my boy. :p
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 20:55
No, it is specifically limits.
Most people wants always more stuff because they think this way they can compensate for what they thinks are their lacks or limits... Mass mediatic culture is a git :p

Well.. if you put it that way. :D
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 20:56
Then you are clearly mistaken my boy. :p
There is no happiness in God, if that's what your hinting to.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 20:58
Well.. if you put it that way. :D

Getting too philosophical, maybe i should get a life :D
Oksana
18-03-2005, 20:58
There is no happiness in God, if that's what your hinting to.

I don't think that's what he meant. There's happiness being material things and it's not just god. It's happiness about your life, anything. Not necessarily god. I think you don't realize this because you have always gotten what you want.
Potaria
18-03-2005, 20:59
I don't think that's what he meant. There's happiness being material things and it's not just god. It's happiness about your life, anything. Not necessarily god. I think you don't realize this because you have always gotten what you want.

Sounds like it.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 21:00
There is no happiness in God, if that's what your hinting to.

No. Religion is hope.

But there is more to happiness than material wants.

There is family, friends, career. Don't tell me you don't feel happy when you get good results for your exam (for example). :)
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:03
No. Religion is hope.

But there is more to happiness than material wants.

There is family, friends, career. Don't tell me you don't feel happy when you get good results for your exam (for example). :)
Sure I do, but teh exam is paper.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:04
Give yourself a long term purpose and then you'll find happiness while fulfilling it...

My personal one is to shake hands with Bill Gates... I'm getting closer and closer to that but still not there ;)
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:05
Give yourself a long term purpose and then you'll find happiness while fulfilling it...

My personal one is to shake hands with Bill Gates... I'm getting closer and closer to that but still not there ;)
Mine is to become a billionaire and laugh in people's faces. But then, I'll want to become a trillionaire...etc
Ninja Zombie Dinosaurs
18-03-2005, 21:07
Happiness is a wife, a blanket and a fireplace on a cold and sleepy winter night.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:07
Mine is to become a billionaire and laugh in people's faces. But then, I'll want to become a trillionaire...etc

Ewww, what's so special in being a trillionaire unless you want to own the whole world?
It's not like money can fullfill desires after a while...
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:07
Happiness is a wife, a blanket and a fireplace on a cold and sleepy winter night.


Gimme a girlfriend and i'll be happy enough :D
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:08
Ewww, what's so special in being a trillionaire unless you want to own the whole world?
It's not like money can fullfill desires after a while...
You can by everything with money.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:08
You can by everything with money.

Yep, but stuff you can buy stops being interesting after a while ;)
Oksana
18-03-2005, 21:09
Mine is to become a billionaire and laugh in people's faces. But then, I'll want to become a trillionaire...etc

You need to really look inside yourself. I'm thinking you have never done that before.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 21:09
Mine is to become a billionaire and laugh in people's faces. But then, I'll want to become a trillionaire...etc

Happiness isn't fleeting isn't it? If it lasts forever, you wouldn't be motivated to continue getting more..

If there isn't any happiness.. you'll have serious mental problems.


"All happiness is temporary. But it's definitely not fleeting.
Happiness keeps us sane, a feel good feeling that everything around us is under control."
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:10
You need to really look inside yourself. I'm thinking you have never done that before.
No, I haven't. I took religion classes, didn't help either.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:10
You need to really look inside yourself. I'm thinking you have never done that before.

Lol, don't take things too seriuosly Oksana, we're just kidding a bit :D
Potaria
18-03-2005, 21:10
You need to really look inside yourself. I'm thinking you have never done that before.

If he does that, he'll probably commit suicide!
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:11
Lol, don't take things too seriuosly Oksana, we're just kidding a bit :D
I am?
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:12
I am?

Well, if you were serious i think you need to have a walk and open your mind a bit... That's why i love traveling ;)
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:13
Well, if you were serious i think you need to have a walk and open your mind a bit... That's why i love traveling ;)
I travel a lot as well. I go to Europe every summer.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 21:13
Yep, but stuff you can buy stops being interesting after a while ;)

Yeah.. It can go 2 ways...

You can either be a stinge and keep on amassing your wealth until doomsday.. Or a be real giver and a planetshaker.

People do find happiness in helping others you know.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:13
I travel a lot as well. I go to Europe every summer.

Cool, ever been in Italy? Aside from politics is a very cool place
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:14
Well, if you were serious i think you need to have a walk and open your mind a bit... That's why i love traveling ;)
I'm half kidding.
South Osettia
18-03-2005, 21:14
Maybe it's human nature just to constantly strive for perfection. We never reach it, but we still try to get it.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:15
Cool, ever been in Italy? Aside from politics is a very cool place
Umm...Kinda got scared of it after my friends lost their BMW to teh mafia. My Mercedes would go as well.

I've been to germnay, France...Never going to Poland...Afraid of being robbed.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:15
Yeah.. It can go 2 ways...

You can either be a stinge and keep on amassing your wealth until doomsday.. Or a be real giver and a planetshaker.

People do find happiness in helping others you know.

Yep, but either way you aren't really enjoying life or money :)

If you're stingy then you're just a sad person, while if you're a giver then you enjoy making other people happy :cool:
Nadkor
18-03-2005, 21:16
people spend their entire lives chasing happines...
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 21:17
I travel a lot as well. I go to Europe every summer.

Nah.. Don't go to Europe, and I bet you'll just see the famous places and arts and boring stuff right? I don't know your age, but I think your too young to be Euro-partying Am I right?

Anyway.. as travelling, when your older, try backpacking.. Go down to the people. Stay with them, mingle with them.. See how people live their lives in all forms of society from the rich to the poor. Then you'll have a broader view of life.

If not, now all you mostly see is finishing your school, getting a degree and get a high paying job, or starting your own business.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:17
Yep, but either way you aren't really enjoying life or money :)

If you're stingy then you're just a sad person, while if you're a giver then you enjoy making other people happy :cool:
Helping people doesn't make me happy. I have to buy a new batch of pencils every week, because my classroom neighbor always looses the ones I lend him.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:17
Umm...Kinda got scared of it after my friends lost their BMW to teh mafia. My Mercedes would go as well.

I've been to germnay, France...Never going to Poland...Afraid of being robbed.

Dude, it was some local thief, the mafia is not interested in cars since they're running more or less the place now...
Just remember to lock the car and you're ok lol
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:18
Nah.. Don't go to Europe, and I bet you'll just see the famous places and arts and boring stuff right? I don't know your age, but I think your too young to be Euro-partying Am I right?

Anyway.. as travelling, when your older, try backpacking.. Go down to the people. Stay with them, mingle with them.. See how people live their lives in all forms of society from the rich to the poor. Then you'll have a broader view of life.

If not, now all you mostly see is finishing your school, getting a degree and get a high paying job, or starting your own business.
I enjoy museums very much.

I'm 13. I plan to invest all my money in stocks, hope for the best.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:19
Nah.. Don't go to Europe, and I bet you'll just see the famous places and arts and boring stuff right? I don't know your age, but I think your too young to be Euro-partying Am I right?

Anyway.. as travelling, when your older, try backpacking.. Go down to the people. Stay with them, mingle with them.. See how people live their lives in all forms of society from the rich to the poor. Then you'll have a broader view of life.

If not, now all you mostly see is finishing your school, getting a degree and get a high paying job, or starting your own business.

LOL... Do you think Europe is all famous places, arts and stuff like that?
Sounds like you need to get along with some locals and have fun...
Make a tour of the pubs then things will get more interesting ;)
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:19
Dude, it was some local thief, the mafia is not interested in cars since they're running more or less the place now...
Just remember to lock the car and you're ok lol
Umm...Still don't trust the place. I'll have to rent a car, and you know what kind of crappy cars Eurocars give you.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 21:20
Yep, but either way you aren't really enjoying life or money :)

If you're stingy then you're just a sad person, while if you're a giver then you enjoy making other people happy :cool:

When I mean 'Real Giver' I'm not talking about giving away completely All his wealth, you still keep your money and go on with your daily lives getting richer. There are better ways of doing it. Like supporting NGO's.

Simply Giving away your money recklessly is reckless. You don't help the poor by giving them money straight off the bat. You create jobs for them.. Something continous that in turn would help their children and grandchildren out of poverty.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:22
Umm...Still don't trust the place. I'll have to rent a car, and you know what kind of crappy cars Eurocars give you.

Just ask for a good car, we italians still make the best of them... Ferrari, anyone? :D
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 21:22
LOL... Do you think Europe is all famous places, arts and stuff like that?
Sounds like you need to get along with some locals and have fun...
Make a tour of the pubs then things will get more interesting ;)

He's 13. He can't be euro-partying. Uh.. thats some term we use in Malaysia. Partying.. going nightclubs.. beer etc etc. You get what I mean right?
Sumamba Buwhan
18-03-2005, 21:24
It is common for people to look for things outside themselves to bring them happiness. Material possessions, romantic partners, economic prosperity, drug use - but you will never find it with that outlook. One must look inward for happiness.
Greedy Pig
18-03-2005, 21:26
I enjoy museums very much.

I'm 13. I plan to invest all my money in stocks, hope for the best.

Stocks.. ummm... If I were you and as rich. I'll go into property as well. Stocks are good but uncertain. Don't keep all your eggs in one basket.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:27
He's 13. He can't be euro-partying. Uh.. thats some term we use in Malaysia. Partying.. going nightclubs.. beer etc etc. You get what I mean right?

That's exactly what i meant ;)
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:27
Just ask for a good car, we italians still make the best of them... Ferrari, anyone? :D
Sure, Ferraris and Lambos are fast, but they show off.

I'd go for one of these. German engineering=quality:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/previews/images/02bmw7_1x.jpg
http://www.autonavigator.ru/autowallpapers/images/bmw-7-series-02.jpg
http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/daimlerchrysler/mercedes/slr-300-mclaren/mercedes-sl-300-rear-300-219.jpg
http://agga.ru/HomeLife/Auto/Catalog/images/mercedes_benz_slr_mclaren_3.jpg

The cars I travel in, ussually:
http://www.autoshow.ro/images/wallpaper/mercedes%20s-class_800.jpg
http://wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/automotive/Maybach%20Blue%201%20-%20800x600.jpg
http://www.wintonsworld.com/cars/carpics/geneva-2003/mercedes-clk-3.jpg
http://img.periskop.cz/media/img/mercedes_ml_55_amg_plocha.jpg

Better than any Italian car
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:28
He's 13. He can't be euro-partying. Uh.. thats some term we use in Malaysia. Partying.. going nightclubs.. beer etc etc. You get what I mean right?
In one year, I can drink alcohol in Germany.
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:33
Sure, Ferraris and Lambos are fast, but they show off.

I'd go for one of these. German engineering=quality:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/previews/images/02bmw7_1x.jpg
http://www.autonavigator.ru/autowallpapers/images/bmw-7-series-02.jpg
http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/daimlerchrysler/mercedes/slr-300-mclaren/mercedes-sl-300-rear-300-219.jpg
http://agga.ru/HomeLife/Auto/Catalog/images/mercedes_benz_slr_mclaren_3.jpg

The cars I travel in, ussually:
http://www.autoshow.ro/images/wallpaper/mercedes%20s-class_800.jpg
http://wallpaper.net.au/wallpaper/automotive/Maybach%20Blue%201%20-%20800x600.jpg
http://www.wintonsworld.com/cars/carpics/geneva-2003/mercedes-clk-3.jpg
http://img.periskop.cz/media/img/mercedes_ml_55_amg_plocha.jpg

Better than any Italian car

If you like that kind of cars try a Lancia, but with sport cars we're still ahead ;)
Zarax
18-03-2005, 21:34
In one year, I can drink alcohol in Germany.

I could drink alcohol at any age, just go to Sardinia if you want drink good stuff ;)
Oksana
18-03-2005, 21:35
Helping people doesn't make me happy. I have to buy a new batch of pencils every week, because my classroom neighbor always looses the ones I lend him.

Oh, yes. We can compare pencils to helping humanity. :rolleyes:
Willamena
18-03-2005, 21:36
All emotional states are fluid.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:36
Oh, yes. We can compare pencils to helping humanity. :rolleyes:
I agree, lol
Cogitation
18-03-2005, 21:37
It's odd. I wanted an I-Pod very badly, I got one. Suddenly, I want a labtop.

Is human happiness fleeting?
I'm sorry if my post comes across as being "Holier-Than-Thou", but if you base your happiness primarily on material possessions, then you will find happiness to be as fleeting as the possessions you base it on.

Then you are clearly mistaken my boy. :p
There is no happiness in God, if that's what your hinting to.
It doesn't necessarily have to be religion; you don't have to base your happiness on a faith in Almighty God (though, personally, that's what I try to make my first choice). You could base your happiness on your contact with your friends and family or on a hobby of some kind.

No. Religion is hope.

But there is more to happiness than material wants.

There is family, friends, career. Don't tell me you don't feel happy when you get good results for your exam (for example).
Sure I do, but teh exam is paper.
When Greedy Pigs talks about a school exam as an example, he's not referring to the paper the exam is printed on. He's talking about the accomplishment involved in passing the exam, in attempting something difficult and succeeding. You could base your happiness on what you do and what you accomplish.


Happiness is a wife, a blanket and a fireplace on a cold and sleepy winter night.

Heheheheheh.... I would have to agree with the good Mr. Rockwell on this.

Anyway, you can find happiness in spending time with friends and family, in spending time working on a hobby, in spending time in practical studies.... Just don't base happiness on material wealth alone; getting money and spending money per se do not bring you any form of happiness that lasts. I used to buy and collect cards for the Star Trek Customizable Card Game (http://startrekccg.fanhq.com/) when I was younger. I was fascinated with getting new cards. Eventually, the novelty wore off; today, those cards sit in boxes in my room. I haven't played in at least 5 years. I might get around to playing again, someday, but that seems very unlikely.

Your happiness lasts only as long as what you base it on.

"Think about it for a moment."

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:38
If you like that kind of cars try a Lancia, but with sport cars we're still ahead ;)

In power, yes. But in style, I'll have to disgree. The Lambo Murcielago Roadster is awesome. You feel like you could just go to light-speed in it.
Willamena
18-03-2005, 21:39
Your happiness lasts only as long as what you base it on.

"Think about it for a moment."

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia
That's why I'm perfectly happy just to be alive.
Nadkor
18-03-2005, 21:39
In power, yes. But in style, I'll have to disgree. The Lambo Murcielago Roadster is awesome. You feel like you could just go to light-speed in it.
Zonda

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Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:41
I'm sorry if my post comes across as being "Holier-Than-Thou", but if you base your happiness primarily on material possessions, then you will find happiness to be as fleeting as the possessions you base it on.



It doesn't necessarily have to be religion; you don't have to base your happiness on a faith in Almighty God (though, personally, that's what I try to make my first choice). You could base your happiness on your contact with your friends and family or on a hobby of some kind.



When Greedy Pigs talks about a school exam as an example, he's not referring to the paper the exam is printed on. He's talking about the accomplishment involved in passing the exam, in attempting something difficult and succeeding. You could base your happiness on what you do and what you accomplish.


Heheheheheh.... I would have to agree with the good Mr. Rockwell on this.

Anyway, you can find happiness in spending time with friends and family, in spending time working on a hobby, in spending time in practical studies.... Just don't base happiness on material wealth alone; getting money and spending money per se do not bring you any form of happiness that lasts. I used to buy and collect cards for the Star Trek Customizable Card Game (http://startrekccg.fanhq.com/) when I was younger. I was fascinated with getting new cards. Eventually, the novelty wore off; today, those cards sit in boxes in my room. I haven't played in at least 5 years. I might get around to playing again, someday, but that seems very unlikely.

Your happiness lasts only as long as what you base it on.

"Think about it for a moment."

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia

First, YAY A MOD POSTED ON MY THREAD.

Second, I know that there is more to happiness than material objects, but I don't believe happiness is in God.

Your card game is a good example of fleeting happiness. I collected cards, and they lie in the cupboard under my sink.
Pyromanstahn
18-03-2005, 21:47
Can I make an addition to the vote I cast? I said human happiness is fleeing, and I just want to add that it's a good thing too. We need to have a driving force of discontentment so that we can keep pushing oursleves.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:47
Can I make an addition to the vote I cast? I said human happiness is fleeing, and I just want to add that it's a good thing too. We need to have a driving force of discontentment so that we can keep pushing oursleves.
Never thought of it that way.
Oksana
18-03-2005, 21:49
Helligkeit, please consider helping the less fortunate. It may not make you happy, but it will certainly make them happy. Be wise on how you give to them, too. :)
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:52
Helligkeit, please consider helping the less fortunate. It may not make you happy, but it will certainly make them happy. Be wise on how you give to them, too. :)I attempt to make people happy. I don't tend to help humans. I'm an animal person. I donate a hell of a lot of money to SPCA of Texas yearly. I've taken in stray cats, that were at my doorstep. That makes me happy. Helping humans doens't make me happy, becaus ethey are intelligent, and it's mostly their fault.
Oksana
18-03-2005, 21:54
I attempt to make people happy. I don't tend to help humans. I'm an animal person. I donate a hell of a lot of money to SPCA of Texas yearly. I've taken in stray cats, that were at my doorstep. That makes me happy. Helping humans doens't make me happy, becaus ethey are intelligent, and it's mostly their fault.

Hmm... I'd have to disagree with that but okay.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 21:56
Hmm... I'd have to disagree with that but okay.
No problem.
Pyromanstahn
18-03-2005, 21:58
I attempt to make people happy. I don't tend to help humans. I'm an animal person. I donate a hell of a lot of money to SPCA of Texas yearly. I've taken in stray cats, that were at my doorstep. That makes me happy. Helping humans doens't make me happy, becaus ethey are intelligent, and it's mostly their fault.

But isn't that choosing to base your compassion purely on the basis of how how good it makes you feel, and is therefore a selfish act rather than a generous one?
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:03
But isn't that choosing to base your compassion purely on the basis of how how good it makes you feel, and is therefore a selfish act rather than a generous one?
Not really. I feel animals have the need more. There are people that harm animals, and when ever I'm driving along teh road, and see a runover sqirre it just makes me feel like crap.

Humans are intelligent. They can fend for themselves, and know the dangers of things.

In a way, it is selfish.
Pyromanstahn
18-03-2005, 22:07
Well I'm not going to argue about the value of generosity to humans compared to animals here. Do you agree with my idea that we should be discontent though?
Zotona
18-03-2005, 22:08
Humans are intelligent.

Heh. That's debatable. ;)
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:09
Do you agree with my idea that we should be discontent though?

What do you mean?
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:10
Heh. That's debatable. ;)
True...lol...Look at Bush.
Oksana
18-03-2005, 22:14
What do you mean?

You have misguided ideas about people. You should be worried about other people, but you're not. Even animals know how to share with members of their own species. You need to meet some poor people. You lack an understanding of their situation.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:17
You have misguided ideas about people. You should be worried about other people, but you're not. Even animals know how to share with members of their own species. You need to meet some poor people. You lack an understanding of their situation.
Not really. I had just seen 'teh Life Aquatic", and was walking down the stairs to my car when I see this guy on drugs. I thought I'd help him. But then, I realized:
If I give him money he'll uy alcohol and drugs, harming him more, and wasting my money.
Sumamba Buwhan
18-03-2005, 22:20
very few rich people think anything other than "Poor people are only in their situation because they are lazy" - those that do give to them do it for the image of being generous and a humanitarian. They will never realize that there is much more to being poor than being lazy because they haven't the slightest clue as to what it's like to grow up in poverty.
Oksana
18-03-2005, 22:23
Not really. I had just seen 'teh Life Aquatic", and was walking down the stairs to my car when I see this guy on drugs. I thought I'd help him. But then, I realized:
If I give him money he'll uy alcohol and drugs, harming him more, and wasting my money.

That's just one person. My mom makes $8,000 a year. So I ask you this. Does that mean it's my fault that I grew up in poverty? Does that mean I can fend for myself?

If people bother you, try helping the children. They need help and it is almost never their fault that they live in poverty.
Musky Furballs
18-03-2005, 22:23
Happiness is Ferret!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/muskyfur/P7230038.jpg
I can be this dang happy because a 2lb ball of fur nipped my toe and dared me to play chase. No money can buy it. You are as happy as you chose to be.
Cogitation
18-03-2005, 22:24
Not really. I had just seen 'teh Life Aquatic", and was walking down the stairs to my car when I see this guy on drugs. I thought I'd help him. But then, I realized:
If I give him money he'll uy alcohol and drugs, harming him more, and wasting my money.
Hmmm.... He's got a point, there, Oksana.

However, Heiligkeit, throwing money at a problem is not always the best solution. You could also have bought him a sandwich (assuming that he wasn't so single-minded on drugs that he'd refuse the sandwich). Have you considered volunteering your time at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:25
That's just one person. My mom makes $8,000 a year. So I ask you this. Does that mean it's my fault that I grew up in poverty? Does that mean I can fend for myself?

If people bother you, try helping the children. They need help and it is almost never their fault that they live in poverty.
8,000 a year? I'm sorry.

My dad, at his highest once made 120,000 in a week.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:27
Hmmm.... He's got a point, there, Oksana.

However, Heiligkeit, throwing money at a problem is not always the best solution. You could also have bought him a sandwich (assuming that he wasn't so single-minded on drugs that he'd refuse the sandwich).

Ever seen "Scary Movie"? That's what I'll get if I buy someone a sandwich

Have you considered volunteering your time at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Alreday done it. Wasted my Sunday packing canned soups and listening to people cussing and watchinf them smoke who knows what.
Oksana
18-03-2005, 22:27
8,000 a year? I'm sorry.

My dad, at his highest once made 120,000 in a week.

Well, you still haven't answered the question. I know people who are worse off then my family.

EDIT: Cog I don't see any point. :confused:
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:28
Well, you still haven't answered the question. I know people who are worse off then my family.

EDIT: Cog I don't see any point. :confused:
That giving money to homeless people may hurt them more than not giving anything.
Ninja Zombie Dinosaurs
18-03-2005, 22:28
8,000 a year? I'm sorry.

My dad, at his highest once made 120,000 in a week.
I can never get enough paper and ink for that, plus my press can only accommodate one set of engraved plates at a time.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:30
I can never get enough paper and ink for that, plus my press can only accommodate one set of engraved plates at a time.
I don't get it

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Nadkor
18-03-2005, 22:34
I don't get it

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
he was making a joke about forgery...

jokes lose their humour when they have to be explained...
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:35
he was making a joke about forgery...

jokes lose their humour when they have to be explained...Oh, sorry. I didn't get it
Franziskonia
18-03-2005, 22:37
There's a Chinese saying, I think:

"Happy is not who gets what he wants, but who wants what he gets."

To know that I have friends and a family I can rely on makes me far more happier than the fact that I own what I own. That is just a bonus. :)

Fran
Pyromanstahn
18-03-2005, 22:38
What do you mean?

I mean that we should be discontent so that we force ourselves to improve ourselves. If we were always happy we would become lazy and eventually all get wiped out by a meteor or something.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:38
There's a Chinese saying, I think:

"Happy is not who gets what he wants, but who wants what he gets."

To know that I have friends and a family I can rely on makes me far more happier than the fact that I own what I own. That is just a bonus. :)

Fran
Interesting. I don't quite agree.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:38
I mean that we should be discontent so that we force ourselves to improve ourselves. If we were always happy we would become lazy and eventually all get wiped out by a meteor or something.
Oh, yes, I agree.
Zincite
18-03-2005, 22:40
I think it depends on a lot. Within the confines of "satisfaction from material acquisition", however, I have found that I'm more likely to be satisfied if I acquire an object that I want for its function rather than for its own sake.
Gawdly
18-03-2005, 22:42
I think it depends on a lot. Within the confines of "satisfaction from material acquisition", however, I have found that I'm more likely to be satisfied if I acquire an object that I want for its function rather than for its own sake.

Well, my happiness is fleeting. It left early Monday, and I expect it back any minute.

TGIF!
Oksana
18-03-2005, 22:52
That giving money to homeless people may hurt them more than not giving anything.

I'm not saying you have to give money to homeless people. Giving it to homeless people is unfortunately not very productive.
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:53
I'm not saying you have to give money to homeless people. Giving it to homeless people is unfortunately not very productive.
As I said.
Ninja Zombie Dinosaurs
18-03-2005, 22:55
There's a Chinese saying, I think:

"Happy is not who gets what he wants, but who wants what he gets."
More importantly, it's a Sheryl Crow lyric.

My friend the communist
Holds meetings in his RV
I can't afford his gas
So I'm stuck here watching tv
I don't have digital
I don't have diddly squat
It's not having what you want
It's wanting what you've got

I'm gonna soak up the sun
I'm gonna tell everyone
To lighten up (I'm gonna tell 'em that)
I've got no one to blame
For every time I feel lame
I'm looking up
I'm gonna soak up the sun
I'm gonna soak up the sun
Heiligkeit
18-03-2005, 22:57
More importantly, it's a Sheryl Crow lyric.

My friend the communist
Holds meetings in his RV
I can't afford his gas
So I'm stuck here watching tv
I don't have digital
I don't have diddly squat
It's not having what you want
It's wanting what you've got

I'm gonna soak up the sun
I'm gonna tell everyone
To lighten up (I'm gonna tell 'em that)
I've got no one to blame
For every time I feel lame
I'm looking up
I'm gonna soak up the sun
I'm gonna soak up the sun

Heard that song too many times.