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I suppose this thread'll die pretty soon seeing as its really an Aussies-only debate, but its a pet one of mine. I reckon Advance Australia Fair is a terrible peice of music and that it doesn't really reflect much of the Australian Spirit. Waltzing Matilda, however, is such a classic Aussie Folksong and it means so much to our national image that I reckon it'd be perfect.

I suppose this thread'll die pretty soon seeing as its really an Aussies-only debate, but its a pet one of mine. I reckon Advance Australia Fair is a terrible peice of music and that it doesn't really reflect much of the Australian Spirit. Waltzing Matilda, however, is such a classic Aussie Folksong and it means so much to our national image that I reckon it'd be perfect.
I agree that Advance Australia Fair does suck. I mean, have you heard the lyrics lately? But then I think Waltzing Matilda sucks also. It would jut promote Steve Irwin-like images...

And besides, FFS, it's a song about some guy who stole a sheep and then jumped in a billabong...

But then I think patriotism and all this nationalism business is a load of bullshit, so I'm probably not the person to ask. : ;)

I agree that Advance Australia Fair does suck. I mean, have you heard the lyrics lately? But then I think Waltzing Matilda sucks also. It would jut promote Steve Irwin-like images...

And besides, FFS, it's a song about some guy who stole a sheep and then jumped in a billabong...

But then I think patriotism and all this nationalism business is a load of bullshit, so I'm probably not the person to ask. : ;)

Exactly. Waltzing Matilda is unique, what other country has an anthem about "some guy who stole a sheep and then jumped in a billabong". I think it also reflects on the Australian attitude of not taking Patriotism that seriously.

waltzing matilda who bloody killed her liying in the grass with a dagger up her ...

Now that sounds more Australian.LOL
Yes it should it sums up Australia bunch of convicts.

waltzing matilda who bloody killed her liying in the grass with a dagger up her ...

Now that sounds more Australian.LOL
Yes it should it sums up Australia bunch of convicts.

*sighs* Kiwis. Whats with the Wellington weather? I was hopeing to see you guys crucified in the cricket.

Yeah I think we should, at least we'd be unique then :D

*sighs* Kiwis. Whats with the Wellington weather? I was hopeing to see you guys crucified in the cricket.

WAIT! Don't crucify Vettori, until I get to play with him.... *starts looking very... arch*

WAIT! Don't crucify Vettori, until I get to play with him.... *starts looking very... arch*

I think Vettori is the only player on your team we cant crucify. I reckon he's the best finger spinner in the world at the moment.

I have an even better idea: let's get rid of the National Anthem entirely!

Think of the benefits:

- No-one actually knows all the words to "Advance Australia Fair" anyway

- No more annoying waiting around at Sporting Events/The Olympics. Cut the crap and get on with the game/medal awarding ceremony!

- A decline in Jingoistic Nationalism

In other words, it's all good. And yes, I'm serious- get rid of the National Anthem. For all the good they do, we might as well as well have "Phatt Bass" by the Warp Bros. as our National Anthem...

Excellent idea! ANd during ceremonies where a national anthem would normally be played and the time must be used, you can pull down your pants and moon the crowd for 2 minutes. :)

Excellent idea! ANd during ceremonies where a national anthem would normally be played and the time must be used, you can pull down your pants and moon the crowd for 2 minutes. :)

I like.

I have an even better idea: let's get rid of the National Anthem entirely!

Damn you for reading my mind! I was *so* going to suggest that! :p

*sighs* Kiwis. Whats with the Wellington weather? I was hopeing to see you guys crucified in the cricket.
looked fine to me just a bit of Fog! :confused:

Well the 1st and 3rd ODI were close and until we played like girls on the 4th day we were in with a show.
I bowled Ewen Chatfield out so that makes me eligebile for the black caps well every man and his dog! :p

Waltzing Mathilda RULEZ!

:cool:

looked fine to me just a bit of Fog! :confused:

Well the 1st and 3rd ODI were close and until we played like girls on the 4th day we were in with a show.
I bowled Ewen Chatfield out so that makes me eligebile for the black caps well every man and his dog! :p

You bowled chats? Did he forget which way up the bat goes again?

Most Australians would struggle to remember the entire Advance Australia Fair! The bits in Italic don't get used much (the original is quoted below).

:)

Australians all let us rejoice,
For we are young and free;
We've golden soil and wealth for toil,
Our home is girt by sea;
Our land abounds in Nature's gifts
Of beauty rich and rare;
In history's page, let every stage
Advance Australia fair!
In joyful strains then let us sing,
"Advance Australia fair!"

When gallant Cook from Albion sail'd,
To trace wide oceans o'er,
True British courage bore him on,
Till he landed on our shore.
Then here he raised Old England's flag,
The standard of the brave;
With all her faults we love her still,
"Brittannia rules the wave!"
In joyful strains then let us sing
"Advance Australia fair!"

Beneath our radiant southern Cross,
We'll toil with hearts and hands;
To make this Commonwealth of ours
Renowned of all the lands;
For those who've come across the seas
We've boundless plains to share;
With courage let us all combine
To advance Australia fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing
"Advance Australia fair!"

While other nations of the globe
Behold us from afar,
We'll rise to high renown and shine
Like our glorious southern star;
From England, Scotia, Erin's Isle,
Who come our lot to share,
Let all combine with heart and hand
To advance Australia fair!
In joyful strains then let us sing
"Advance Australia fair!"
Shou'd foreign foe e'er sight our coast,
Or dare a foot to land,
We'll rouse to arms like sires of yore
To guard our native strand;
Brittannia then shall surely know,
Beyond wide ocean's roll,
Her sons in fair Australia's land
Still keep a British soul.
In joyful strains the let us sing
"Advance Australia fair!"

OMG... :eek:

BORING! :D

Well stealing a sheep and killing yourself to escape capture would send out the right message at the Olympic games, but I don't think we should change the lyrics, just the tune. Sing it in time with "Working class man.":)

Vettori is doing excellent at the moment.

How about this alternate Mathilda? ;)

Alternate Mathilda (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/breakfast/grabbag/alternativ_m731699.mp3)

:D

It's funny...I'd always thought Waltzing Matilda WAS the national anthem of Australia...

I think we should just go with working class man as our anthem, Aust fair is crap and waltzing matilda is stupid

I'm english (hehe) and i think advance australia fair sounds like a christmas carol. Waltzing Matilda should be the anthem and Jerusalem should be ours, cos god save the queen is awful

I've always been rather partial to "We are Australian" in terms of patriotic music, the rest is a bunch of anglo-centric bullshit, or idiotic Banjo Patterson tunes. God I'm so ashamed of early White Aussie history, all that ever happened for two hundred years was consistent sucking up to Britain, displaying a pathetic willingness to be the lapdog of the dominant superpower of the time. Most Australians didn't even think of themselves as Real Australians until after World War II, and that was probably in reaction to the masses of refugee migrants that started to pour in from other nations.

I think the Aussie national anthem is pretty nice as it is, however I bet it would sound GREAT if Whitney Houston sang it, she would hook it UP! :p

I think Vettori is the only player on your team we cant crucify. I reckon he's the best finger spinner in the world at the moment.
I'm Aussie, you silly silly man. :p

But I agree with someone... No national anthem! w00t. People ould be saved from all those awkward moments at sporting events, although the South African one is rather stirring.

I love Waltzing Mathilda. If the Aussies don't use it, can I? :)

I suppose this thread'll die pretty soon seeing as its really an Aussies-only debate, but its a pet one of mine. I reckon Advance Australia Fair is a terrible peice of music and that it doesn't really reflect much of the Australian Spirit. Waltzing Matilda, however, is such a classic Aussie Folksong and it means so much to our national image that I reckon it'd be perfect.

Can you imagine our national imiage if we had that as our Anthem. The guy steals a sheep. I'm happy with the one we have now.

I love Waltzing Mathilda. If the Aussies don't use it, can I? :)
*sneaks Waltzing MAtilda to Oksana while the others look the other way*

Here, you can have it. And take Advance Australia Fair too!

I think they should make The Rakes of Mallow Australia's National Anthem.

...Well, now that I think of it, no. I'm keeping it for myself. It should be ours, not yours!

I hate both songs.

Is there such a thing as a good national anthem??

Admittedly, the only time I ever hear a large collection of national anthems is at the Olympic Games and they all (in my own opinion, naturally) sound pretty droll.

For anyone in the US that is interested, this debate is a little like asking "Should we replace 'Star Spangled Banner' with 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame'?"

My view is that both songs listed are pretty terrible. I'd go with Working Class Man but I don't know that everyone in Oz wants to do that sort of damage to their vocal chords.