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Adaptation or destruction

Wartenweiller
18-03-2005, 06:01
(I'm in Eternal Reich region for any questions or observations)
*(sorry for my english since it is not my native tongue)*

Since the beggining of humanity, the aryan race has been contaminated by an enemy, an enemy that respects no nationality! an enemy that has no respect for blood! and has been contaminating our blood for the last two thousand years, or perhaps even more!

This enemy is the jew, you will ask, why? the answer is simple, who controls the global economy? who controls US? who has been stealing land to other peoples? we mustn't let our noble aryan condition to cloud our sight, yes our race is noble and for that we've been punished, this enemy infiltrates deep in our economy, sometimes it may seem that the jew is interested in progress, but all this or other public actions that he may take are just lies, he likes the image of him being the "victim" of us the "evil german people"

FIRST FACT: THE GERMAN PEOPLE NEVER KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE, DUE TO THE FACT THAT NO CREMATORY IN THE WORLD COULD HAVE KILLED A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN SUCH A FAST WAY.

Then why does the jew invents this lie? to deceive the world, and make it point an entire noble and hard-working people as killers, the only think every man wants is to leave in their own country without any outsider stealing their jobs, women and contaminating their blood. I TELL YOU NOW, PEOPLE OF SAME BLOOD BELONGS TO A COMMON NATION, the jew has been using its milenary experience in deceive and flattering in order to corrupt our innocent race.

Disgusing themselves as heartbringers of progress and equality, they scheme and squabble, flatter and deceive in order to add more power to their "world-domination-machine" in other words Marxism along with its more powerfull ally the capitalism our enemy grows stronger, i won't deny it it's a brilliant idea to make two antagonic ideologies and then without their governors knowledge these two antagonic ideoligies cooperate in such a synchronized way that it passes without people noticing its real intention.

The jew is the racism, they allow their women to mix with other blood without complaining, yet when it comes to their men they show such a spectacular force to make their men mix with another jew, of course there are exceptions yet this exceptions contaminate the blood, SOMETHING THAT'S HALF-BREED HAS NO FUTURE BUT TO DISAPPEAR.

SO I URGE YOU ARYAN BROTHERS IN EVERY CORNERS OF THE WORLD TO STAND AND FIGHT AGAINST THISM OUR ETERNAL ENEMY, IN THIS BATTLE WE CANNOT COEXIST TOGETHER ONLY ONE RACE WILL PREVAIL.

example of the aryan power is this, US is a mostly germanic blood nation, thanks to the fact that almost none of its germanic elements mixed with the natives there, so US stomped the other inferior races and became lord of the continent in almost no time.

PLEASE THINK WELL BEFORE POSTING ANY REPLIES LIKE "RACIST BASTARD", "YOU DESERVE TO DIE" FOR I DON'T WANT ANYTHING MORE BADLY THAN TO SEE OUR DESCENDANTS AS LORDS OF THIS WORLD FOR IT IS OUR DESTINY TO GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO BE FREE!
Muktar
18-03-2005, 06:18
OOC: I hope this thread is strictly IC. Also, IRL nations do not exist in NS.
Frisbeeteria
18-03-2005, 06:23
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/moved.jpg NationStates --> General
Patra Caesar
18-03-2005, 06:26
I disagree with a good deal of what you say, as far as I am concerned there is only one race, the human race...
Lries
18-03-2005, 06:32
You know what, you're a f-cking insane racist bigot.

Racism is the biggest obstacle to real class struggle.
Red Sox Fanatics
18-03-2005, 06:37
Thanks for making me regret my German heritage.
New Granada
18-03-2005, 06:38
The thing that stops the advancement of the best society (that on the model of northern europe) is the legions of ignorant white christians, most of whom are americans but some of whom it appears are germans (or whatever country you disgrace).
Vittos Ordination
18-03-2005, 06:43
You know what, you're a f-cking insane racist bigot.

Racism is the biggest obstacle to real class struggle.

No, poverty is. But racism is up there.
Eichen
18-03-2005, 06:51
*opens door, eyes the guy with the little mustache, closes door quickly*
Domici
18-03-2005, 06:52
No, poverty is. But racism is up there.

Poverty IS the struggle. Racism is what has people distracted. There are many instances in American history where labor unions could have really made a difference in people's lives but Anglo's didn't want to work with Italians or Irish and none of them wanted to work with blacks.

Poverty draws people of all races together, that's why so many black people have Irish names like Malone or Tyrone (actually a place name, but Irish nonetheless) and is quite conducive to class struggle.
Nekone
18-03-2005, 06:56
Thanks for making me regret my German heritage.don't be embarrased by your German Heritage... after all, Germans and Nazis are two different things.
Muktar
18-03-2005, 06:57
Seeing as to how it is not IC, but not closure worthy, I am now going to eat every logic error in your post and spit them on you.

1. The "Aryan Race" has not been around since the beginning of humanity, and neither have the jews.
2. Jews do respect nationality, at least as much as any other religious group does.
3. Judaism generally spreads within the family, so they probably have more respect for lineage than you think.
4. Judaism has been in Europe for only a little over nineteen hundred years. Not quite two thousand.
5. OPEC controls the global economy more than anyone else, let alone the jews.
6. Who controls the US? Try Christian Extremists.
7. The jews never stole any of the land in Israel/Palestine. It was promised partly to them by the land's previous owner, Britain. The rest they gained via combat when their Arab neighbors tried to reclaim the territory for the Palestinians.
8. The Germans were still dealing with infighting when most other European nations were going through Industrial Revolutions. Ever since it was unified, it has either been under occupation or warmongering. Oh, yeah, let's not forget the Holocaust. That isn't noble, that's bloodthirsty.
9. If you consider the traits in #9 to be noble, then yeah, you're being punished for genocide.
10. The Jews are too busy trying to control Israel to control the economy of anybody else.
11. I'll admit, there are probably jews who may try to exploit suffering to get ahead. Any minority who has suffered will have those among their number who make similiar attempts, however. Singling out jews for this trait is nothing above bigotry.
12. No single crematory could kill six million in six years, but guess what? There were hundreds of them, if not thousands. Divide six million over six years in thousands of crematories... I think a thousand every year is plausible, don't you.
13. It's easy to be hard-working and a killer. You could easily be a hard-working killer. I already covered the whole "noble claim in #9-10.
14. I am a man, but I do not feel the way you have described. Less jobs means better demand for successful employees, like me. Mixed ethnic relationships promote an enviroment of tolerance and progress. Mixed lineage is not a disease, and thus cannot contaminate.
15. People of the same blood are only that: people of the same blood. We shouldn't have one country for evbery subethnic group.
16. Organized jews do not have experience in deceiving large groups, let alone in the intricacy which you describe.
17. There cannot be a world domination machine. They lack both the numbers and the resources.
18. Marxism and capitalism are mutually exclusive. They cannot exist simultaneously, let alone without the notice of the populace.
19. Jews are not an ethnicity, they are a religion. Any arguments claiming they mix blood is like an argument saying Christianity is nothing but Irish Catholics.
20. The reason behind the mother/father difference is not bigotry, but basis of knowledge. It is easy to tell if a child is Jewish if the mother is Jewish, since that is who the child is coming out of. If the mother is not Jewish, however, and the father is uncertain (rape, previous relations, etc.) then one cannot tell if the child is Jewish.
21. Actually, Aryan Germans and Jews can coexist rather well. It's bigoted xenophobic Aryans and non-Aryans that cannot get along.
22. Actually, America is primarily British. German comes in as a close second.
23. Germans, let alone Aryans, have never been "lords of this world."

I did not reply with flames and such. I replied with cold logic and reason. Before you reply, I would like to note that I am 1/4 German and among my dozens of IRL and internet friends, only one is Jewish.
Lries
18-03-2005, 06:58
No, poverty is. But racism is up there.
How is poverty an obstacle to class struggle?
Vittos Ordination
18-03-2005, 07:01
How is poverty an obstacle to class struggle?

It works to separate people into social groups, geographic areas, and economic classes. It also undermines education and growth as an individual.
Lries
18-03-2005, 07:04
It works to separate people into social groups, geographic areas, and economic classes. It also undermines education and growth as an individual.
Fair enough, but I still think that Prejudice is the main obstacle to class struggle.
Nekone
18-03-2005, 07:06
Seeing as to how it is not IC, but not closure worthy, I am now going to eat every logic error in your post and spit them on you.

1. The "Aryan Race" has not been around since the beginning of humanity, and neither have the jews.
2. Jews do respect nationality, at least as much as any other religious group does.
3. Judaism generally spreads within the family, so they probably have more respect for lineage than you think.
4. Judaism has been in Europe for only a little over nineteen hundred years. Not quite two thousand.
5. OPEC controls the global economy more than anyone else, let alone the jews.
6. Who controls the US? Try Christian Extremists.
7. The jews never stole any of the land in Israel/Palestine. It was promised partly to them by the land's previous owner, Britain. The rest they gained via combat when their Arab neighbors tried to reclaim the territory for the Palestinians.
8. The Germans were still dealing with infighting when most other European nations were going through Industrial Revolutions. Ever since it was unified, it has either been under occupation or warmongering. Oh, yeah, let's not forget the Holocaust. That isn't noble, that's bloodthirsty.
9. If you consider the traits in #9 to be noble, then yeah, you're being punished for genocide.
10. The Jews are too busy trying to control Israel to control the economy of anybody else.
11. I'll admit, there are probably jews who may try to exploit suffering to get ahead. Any minority who has suffered will have those among their number who make similiar attempts, however. Singling out jews for this trait is nothing above bigotry.
12. No single crematory could kill six million in six years, but guess what? There were hundreds of them, if not thousands. Divide six million over six years in thousands of crematories... I think a thousand every year is plausible, don't you.
13. It's easy to be hard-working and a killer. You could easily be a hard-working killer. I already covered the whole "noble claim in #9-10.
14. I am a man, but I do not feel the way you have described. Less jobs means better demand for successful employees, like me. Mixed ethnic relationships promote an enviroment of tolerance and progress. Mixed lineage is not a disease, and thus cannot contaminate.
15. People of the same blood are only that: people of the same blood. We shouldn't have one country for evbery subethnic group.
16. Organized jews do not have experience in deceiving large groups, let alone in the intricacy which you describe.
17. There cannot be a world domination machine. They lack both the numbers and the resources.
18. Marxism and capitalism are mutually exclusive. They cannot exist simultaneously, let alone without the notice of the populace.
19. Jews are not an ethnicity, they are a religion. Any arguments claiming they mix blood is like an argument saying Christianity is nothing but Irish Catholics.
20. The reason behind the mother/father difference is not bigotry, but basis of knowledge. It is easy to tell if a child is Jewish if the mother is Jewish, since that is who the child is coming out of. If the mother is not Jewish, however, and the father is uncertain (rape, previous relations, etc.) then one cannot tell if the child is Jewish.
21. Actually, Aryan Germans and Jews can coexist rather well. It's bigoted xenophobic Aryans and non-Aryans that cannot get along.
22. Actually, America is primarily British. German comes in as a close second.
23. Germans, let alone Aryans, have never been "lords of this world."

I did not reply with flames and such. I replied with cold logic and reason. Before you reply, I would like to note that I am 1/4 German and among my dozens of IRL and internet friends, only one is Jewish.good points... I disagree with some of them but those disagreements are nothing compared to the original post.

nice post.
Eichen
18-03-2005, 07:13
Fair enough, but I still think that Prejudice is the main obstacle to class struggle.
I dasagree. I think that poverty is the very reason for many racial steretypes that persist in our culture.
It's easy to generalize any race that is statistically in poverty as many things people accuse races and nationalities of:
1) Dirty
2) Stupid
3) Criminal
- etc.

Once you have enough money, people look at you as an "exception" amongst your race. It's not very fair, and it's not very accurate.

I think race is definitely secondary to economic status.
Muktar
18-03-2005, 07:15
good points... I disagree with some of them but those disagreements are nothing compared to the original post.

nice post.If I'm going to be an ass, I figure I should be smart about it. It would have taken a whole lot longer if I had hit grammar errors.
Lries
18-03-2005, 07:18
I dasagree. I think that poverty is the very reason for many racial steretypes that persist in our culture.
It's easy to generalize any race that is statistically in poverty as many things people accuse races and nationalities of:
1) Dirty
2) Stupid
3) Criminal
- etc.

Once you have enough money, people look at you as an "exception" amongst your race. It's not very fair, and it's not very accurate.

I think race is definitely secondary to economic status.
Well, yeah, but one of the main causes of prejudice is poverty. So let's just say we're both right. ;)
United East Asia
18-03-2005, 07:20
1) Crematories don't kill people, they're only there to burn bodies.

2) Not all victims were cremated in crematories, a common thing was to pile them up on wood, use some oil, then burn the whole stake, nice and efficient, but not as good as crematories. Also many others were just buried after being shot (before the introduction of Cyclon B).

3) Transport statistics by the SS show a different thing (thanks to Eichmann and other people there were perfect stats after the war).

4) The SS searched for an efficient way to terminate life, that brought them to Cyclon B, so killing in large numbers and rather fast was very much possible and was, reportedly, done.

5) The USA are surely NOT a germanic blood nation, you have a mixture of all possible European countries (and not all European countries have been germanic anyway; take the British islands, mainly celts there; or Italians, or Greek etc), not to forget African and Asian influences. I doubt many Americans would qualify as Aryans following the racial standards from Hitler's little Empire (then again, neither Hitler, nor Göring, nor Göbbels were exactly the bloom of Aryan blood).

6) "Jew" is not a race, it's a religion (you know there are German jews with blonde hair and blue eyes, right?).

7) Go to Auschwitz and tell me it has not happened. I've been there. Surely Poland didn't have any other problems right after the war than build up a fake camp, yep (note the sarcasm). Also the US troops, who liberated several camps in Germany, faked all images too, right? Of course the USAAF cameramen, who accompanied US ground forces, had nothing better to do than film faked scenes.

8) The whole argumentation is old, very old. It's known as the "Auschwitz Lüge" around here, but nobody takes it serious (only ignorant fools do), since it's a bunch of crap and can be easily disproven with SS documents.

9) If the Aryans are such a master race, why did they get their ass kicked by the USA, one of the countries with the most mixed blood? I'd say the USA are an even worse mixture-pot than the old Austro-hungarian monarchy. US, UK and CCCP kicked the Nazis in the ass (can't really count the French, sorry, they were occupied for most of the war themselves), three cheers for them. Speaking of the Soviets... Kind of funny how the slavic subhuman beat the snot out of the Aryna master-race on the eastern front, no?

10) A little thought for those who know a few things bout breeding. There is no pure blooded "race" of humans. It just wouldn't work, the genetic pool would be too small. Also, if you want pure blood, you have to do the old incest number. Sick. Honestly, if you'd know a few things about European history, then you know there is no pure-blooded German. That's a myth. Germans have mixed with all kinds of other tribes over the centuries, same goes for every other European country.

11) Lesson in world history: the first high developed cultures were where? NOT in Europe. You find them in Egypt, Mesopotamia, then South America, and also Asia (pretty much all Aryan looking people there, no?). Europe at that time... forget it.
Lries
18-03-2005, 07:23
There is no pure blooded "race" of humans.
What about the British Royal Family? :D
Nekone
18-03-2005, 07:28
10) A little thought for those who know a few things bout breeding. There is no pure blooded "race" of humans.
I am a pure blooded Human and I know there are others like me. Well... with the exception of the Thread starter... and those who think like him.

My blood is 100% Homo Sapien! and I'm damn Proud of it... in fact, I'll be down right Snotty about it. :D
Dontgonearthere
18-03-2005, 07:32
Since the beggining of humanity, the aryan race has been contaminated by an enemy, an enemy that respects no nationality! an enemy that has no respect for blood! and has been contaminating our blood for the last two thousand years, or perhaps even more!
Yup. Those Indians are buggers when it comes to that. You do know that Aryans are a race of indo-persians that hardly exist anymore, correct? Theyre tan, too. Which means that your master race is automatical inferior by your own standards.


This enemy is the jew, you will ask, why? the answer is simple, who controls the global economy?
Bill Gates? Donald Trump? Elvis?
who controls US?
George Bush? The Republican Party? The people? The People? (theres a differnce)
who has been stealing land to other peoples?
Mexicans?

we mustn't let our noble aryan condition to cloud our sight
You mean from the sun? I hear it gets pretty bright over there in the middle east. Pretty hot in India as well.

yes our race is noble and for that we've been punished,
You have? I thought it was because you massacred several million people of various types...y'know, like the Slavs, gypsies, homosexuals, cripples, petty thieves and so forth around the 40's.
this enemy infiltrates deep in our economy,
Mexicans! I knew it!
sometimes it may seem that the jew is interested in progress, but all this or other public actions that he may take are just lies,
George Bush?

I know a few Jews. I dont think I've ever heard Klonor call the Germans evil.

FIRST FACT: THE GERMAN PEOPLE NEVER KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE, DUE TO THE FACT THAT NO CREMATORY IN THE WORLD COULD HAVE KILLED A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN SUCH A FAST WAY.
fact: The Nazis used a varient of cyanide (hydrogen cyanide, I believe) that killed the average adult in about five minutes. The average gas chamber could 'process' 6,000 people a day. So, 365x6,000. Thats 2,190,000 per gas chamber per year. Assuming that the Nazis took breaks on weekends I say it comes out about correctly.

Then why does the jew invents this lie?
I believe it was Patton who forced his troops and nearby German citizens to walk through the camps, in order that we not forget.
to deceive the world, and make it point an entire noble and hard-working people as killers
Germans are general moderatly noble, and pretty hard working. Indeed, most of them arent killers either.
the only think every man wants is to leave in their own country without any outsider stealing their jobs, women and contaminating their blood.
THE MEXICANS AGAIN!

I TELL YOU NOW, PEOPLE OF SAME BLOOD BELONGS TO A COMMON NATION,
Theres this one place, called the United States. I hear theyre pretty diverse there. Theres some other countries out there as well that take the same approach.
the jew has been using its milenary experience in deceive and flattering in order to corrupt our innocent race.
'milenary' isnt a word.
Your 'race' isnt innocent either. Neither is anybody elses 'race'. Just about everybodies ancestors have killed somebody elses ancestors for some reason. Get over it.

Disgusing themselves as heartbringers of progress and equality, they scheme and squabble, flatter and deceive
The French now, eh? Or the UN, maybe.

in order to add more power to their "world-domination-machine"
Now you just sound crazy.


As we all know, the United States and the Soviet Union were actually quite friendly underneath the whole 'Cold War' facade.
i won't deny it it's a brilliant idea to make two antagonic ideologies and then without their governors knowledge these two antagonic ideoligies cooperate in such a synchronized way that it passes without people noticing its real intention.
'antigonic' isnt a word. There was a girl once, called Antigone, as I recall she was schedualed to be walled up in a cave some time a few thosand years ago.

The jew is the racism,
Oxymoron?
they allow their women to mix with other blood without complaining,
You should have seen the dad of the girl I tried to get a date with once. Man, never ask a girl who has a dad with a shotgun out. Those Jews can SWEAR, man.
yet when it comes to their men they show such a spectacular force to make their men mix with another jew, of course there are exceptions yet this exceptions contaminate the blood
And which 'race' has this not happened to?

SOMETHING THAT'S HALF-BREED HAS NO FUTURE BUT TO DISAPPEAR.
You mean tangellos are going to die out? Damn, too bad.

SO I URGE YOU ARYAN BROTHERS IN EVERY CORNERS OF THE WORLD
No, just in India now.
TO STAND AND FIGHT AGAINST THISM OUR ETERNAL ENEMY, IN THIS BATTLE WE CANNOT COEXIST TOGETHER ONLY ONE RACE WILL PREVAIL.
I thought you said they were going to die out on their own?

example of the aryan power is this, US is a mostly germanic blood nation,
Do you mean 'us' or the United States?
If you DO mean the United States, I am laughing at you quite hard right now.
thanks to the fact that almost none of its germanic elements mixed with the natives there, so US stomped the other inferior races and became lord of the continent in almost no time.
Yup, theres no nations like Canada and Mexico out there, not at all. But I think you have proved that serious action needs to be taken against the Mexicans. I shall see to it right away.

PLEASE THINK WELL BEFORE POSTING ANY REPLIES LIKE "RACIST BASTARD", "YOU DESERVE TO DIE"
For all I know, you arent a bastard. You might be racist, but thats your opinion. As to dying, I dont think anybodys hould die for their opinion, or their race.

FOR I DON'T WANT ANYTHING MORE BADLY THAN TO SEE OUR DESCENDANTS AS LORDS OF THIS WORLD FOR IT IS OUR DESTINY TO GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO BE FREE!
Really? Im English, Irish and American Indian. According to you IM inferior. But apparently your grasp of basic history is a bit shakey.
Anyway, I dont want my descendants to be lords of the world, Im sure they would mess it up.
MissDefied
18-03-2005, 07:35
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/aryan_people_origins.php
You know, what kills me about white supremacists is their sheer, utter ignorance.
Like the fact that the "Aryan Race" is from the area formerly called Persia and know today as Iran. Think about it.
Aryan. Iran
Say that 5 times really fast. See how similar they sound?
If you really think that you have "pure Aryan blood" then I'm certain you are dark-skinned with brown or black hair right?
And you are a follower of Zoroastrianism and not Christianity, right?
If you want to be a white supremacist, fine. Go ahead. But please stop using the term Aryan to describe yourself.
UntiedStates
18-03-2005, 07:37
OOC: A large amount of Aryans migrated to the Indus River Valley thousands of years ago. INDIANS have as much Aryan blood as the typical European.

IC: The UntiedStates is appalled by the obvious attempt made to disprove the existance of the Longitude of Evil.
Vittos Ordination
18-03-2005, 07:42
I am a pure blooded Human and I know there are others like me. Well... with the exception of the Thread starter... and those who think like him.

My blood is 100% Homo Sapien! and I'm damn Proud of it... in fact, I'll be down right Snotty about it. :D

I am one quarter homo neandertalensis.

DON'T JUDGE ME!!!
Dontgonearthere
18-03-2005, 07:45
I am one quarter homo neandertalensis.

DON'T JUDGE ME!!!
Right bub, its off to the gallows with you!
Cor its gonna be kind hard to break your neck first go, seeing as your spine is about six inches of bone...we can figure out some way though.
Nekone
18-03-2005, 07:47
[snip]

ROTFLMFAO!
The Philosophes
18-03-2005, 07:53
Oh, for pete's sake...

Is it just me? This is the third blatantly pro-nazi/anti-semitic post i've stumbled onto in as many days. how people can believe this stuff, let alone care enough about it to expound their idiotic, half-baked theories to total strangers is a mystery to me. He has NO EVIDENCE. Not one shred. I mean, I'm jewish; i don't FEEL like i'm stealing your money, polluting your bloodstream, raping your women, whatever. Next he's gonna bring up blood libel and then the shit's gonna hit the fan.

I hereby send out a humble request to all mods:
Use common sense. Free speech is free speech, but hate speech is purposeless except as a deliberate malicious attack on the subject. As much as I respect his right to have an opinion, I also believe he should sit for a couple minutes (as he suggested we do) and think about what he's written before posting it. Has he ever met a Jew? why does he think these things? does he even know? As far as I'm concerned, calling someone "scum," "dog," and whatever other names he and the other anti-semites on these boards have used is flaming. And ridiculously obvious, hurtful flaming at that. I'd ask you to block his access, but I'm unsure if it'll matter.

respectfully,
DRP
Vittos Ordination
18-03-2005, 07:53
Everytime I scroll past this thread title I think it says "Appetite for Destruction" and I want to talk about GnR.