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What are they using their hands to hide?
:D


And what is "other stuff"?

The daily show was saying Jose Cansaco (sp?) said he gave McGwire shots of steroids in his ass. I know the daily show is fake news but I thought that part was real. Anyway McGwire deffinitely took steroids he looks like a skin covered mountain of meat.

Guilty as charged, your honor.

He took Creatin (or is it Creatine) Powder, along with steroids. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind.

He took Creatin (or is it Creatine) Powder, along with steroids. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind.

Androstenedione.

Just a thought, why single out McGwire? The guy standing next to him on the cover of SI is just as guilty.

Just a thought, why single out McGwire? The guy standing next to him on the cover of SI is just as guilty.

The same reason the Congressional inquiry targetted guys like Curt Schilling but not Barry Bonds?

Who's Mark McGwire?

Really.

The same reason the Congressional inquiry targetted guys like Curt Schilling but not Barry Bonds?

Are you playing the RACE card? Ooooh, this is getting interesting!

Who's Mark McGwire?

Really.

Then why read a thread devoted to him? Better yet, why post in a thread devoted to him? Moron.

Yeah I think he's a hyppocrite for saying that he never took steriods and that other stuff is probaly coke.

Then why read a thread devoted to him? Better yet, why post in a thread devoted to him?

To ask who he is.

Moron.

I see that you're not often on this board. Flaming is not allowed here. I will not report you, this time. Civility, please.

To ask who he is.



I see that you're not often on this board. Flaming is not allowed here. I will not report you, this time. Civility, please.


So sorry. I forget freedom of speech is frowned upon here. :rolleyes:

For Mr. Fass:

Mark McGwire is an American baseball player, well known as a home run slugger,. He is notable for his race to break Roger Maris' single season home run record. He testified before the US Congress today about steroid use in baseball, and his evasiveness about the issue is mildly off-pissing.

So sorry. I forget freedom of speech is frowned upon here. :rolleyes:
Don't worry about it man, let's keep this thread on topic.

For Mr. Fass:

Mark McGwire is an American baseball player, well known as a home run slugger,. He is notable for his race to break Roger Maris' single season home run record. He testified before the US Congress today about steroid use in baseball, and his evasiveness about the issue is mildly off-pissing.

Thank you very much. It makes this whole thread understandable to us who know very little about baseball, and who had no idea that there was some sort of steroid inquiry going on. Is it some sort of wide-spread thing?

Who's Mark McGwire?

Really.
He's a baseball guy. He holds the record for most home runs (that's baseballs hit off of the feild in a good way), and most likely uses an assload of steroids.

Want to know any more? I don't know how long I can keep myself from flaming you. :p
(just kidding, obviously)

Don't worry about it man, let's keep this thread on topic.

Quite right. So what do you guys figure is the % of players using steroids/growth hormones? Canseco claimed as high as 80%, others a more realistic 10 - 15%. Just curious what the popular consensus is.

So sorry. I forget freedom of speech is frowned upon here. :rolleyes:

There is no such thing as freedom of speech on someone else's property. There are always rules. Do not break them in the future, and do not insult people.

Politeness is not much to ask for, IMHO.

/Dropping this, so the thread may continue on-topic.

Thank you very much. It makes this whole thread understandable to us who know very little about baseball, and who had no idea that there was some sort of steroid inquiry going on. Is it some sort of wide-spread thing?
It appears to be fairly big problem in baseball, made espescially visible recently by a book written by Jose Canseco (another baseball guy), rumors about Barry Bonds (another baseball guy) potentially having used steroids, and the leagues commissioner Bud Selig having a really crappy steroids testing program.

Quite right. So what do you guys figure is the % of players using steroids/growth hormones? Canseco claimed as high as 80%, others a more realistic 10 - 15%. Just curious what the popular consensus is.
I'd say the number is probably at 20-25%. It's a damn shame. I love the sport (even if I cannot play it) and to see it in such a state, saddens me.

It appears to be fairly big problem in baseball, made espescially visible recently by a book written by Jose Canseco (another baseball guy), rumors about Barry Bonds (another baseball guy) potentially having used steroids, and the leagues commissioner Bud Selig having a really crappy steroids testing program.

Why a congressional hearing? I suppose they're in big trouble if it's true.

Are you playing the RACE card? Ooooh, this is getting interesting!

How is that the race card? The only player in Major League Baseball that anyone really wants to know about is Barry Bonds. He's the only guy, because of the home run record he could break, that anyone really wants to ask if he's done steroids. So why do they subpoena guys like Curt Schilling or Frank Thomas, who have never been mentioned in steroids talks, but not Barry Bonds?

How is that the race card? The only player in Major League Baseball that anyone really wants to know about is Barry Bonds. He's the only guy, because of the home run record he could break, that anyone really wants to ask if he's done steroids. So why do they subpoena guys like Curt Schilling or Frank Thomas, who have never been mentioned in steroids talks, but not Barry Bonds?

You mentioned two white guys that got summoned and pointed out a black guy that didn't. Sorry you couldn't smell the sarcasm coming off my post. Obviously, this has nothing to do with race.

Why a congressional hearing? I suppose they're in big trouble if it's true.
I fear it probably is true. I kind of wondered why they'd be having a congressional hearing, I basically boiled it down to a few reasons.

-Steroids are illegal for human use in the US.
-Taxpayer money is involved in various baseball related things, often times cities will help pay for stadiums and the like.
-Just the opinion that it is in the general interest of the people to figure out what is going on in baseball, and as congress has such resources to do that, they are doing that.

That's what I've cooked up on my own.

Andaluciae: It also has something to do with Anti-Trust waiver that Congress has given baseball. Basically, they allowed baseball to police itself as long as everything was "kosher". Now it looks like times may have changed.

Andaluciae: It also has something to do with Anti-Trust waiver that Congress has given baseball. Basically, they allowed baseball to police itself as long as everything was "kosher". Now it looks like times may have changed.
Ah, now I understand.