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UK Election: Labour and Tories clash on public spending

Swimmingpool
18-03-2005, 00:40
This years election, probably to be held on 5th May 2005, is expected to have one of the dirtiest campaigns ever.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4356387.stm


Pre-poll clash on tax and spend

Labour and the Tories have clashed over tax and spending plans as the row over Gordon Brown's Budget turned into a full scale pre-election battle.

Tony Blair claimed a Tory government would "cut" £35bn from public services hitting schools, hospitals and police.

Tory chairman Liam Fox accused Labour of "at best misrepresentation at worst a downright lie" and said the "smear" tactics were a sign of desperation.

The Lib Dems accused Mr Brown of ducking the issue of council tax rises.

'Brilliant'

Appearing together at a Labour poster launch, the prime minister hailed his chancellor's "brilliant" performance.

And he claimed the Tories would cut £35bn from public services, which was the equivalent of sacking every doctor and teacher in the UK.

The Tories said they would not cut spending but agreed public spending would increase more slowly under their plans - leading to a total of £33.5bn less spending than that anticipated by Labour by 2011.

But they say not a single doctor, teacher or nurse will be cut.

Dr Fox said: "We have said we will be spending more, year on year over and above inflation.

"And to call that a cut is at best a misrepresentation, at worst a downright lie."

'Real problem'

Tory shadow chancellor Oliver Letwin also predicted Mr Brown would have to raise taxes by £10bn or £11bn if Labour was re-elected because he was borrowing and spending too much.

For the Lib Dems, Vince Cable said the chancellor had failed to deal with the "looming problems" of revaluation of council tax bands which he argued would result in "massive increases" for some.

Mr Brown and Mr Blair staged a show of unity on Thursday morning, the day after the chancellor delivered a record-breaking ninth Budget.

Mr Cable said taxation as a share of the economy would go up under all three of the main parties.

The chancellor meanwhile insisted his spending plans were "affordable".

In Wednesday's Budget, Mr Brown doubled the level at which homebuyers pay stamp duty, unveiled a rise in child tax credit and a £200 council tax refund for over-65s.

Defending the plans, he told Today: "I will take no risks with the stability of the economy.

"All our spending plans announced yesterday [Wednesday], including what we can do for pensioners, as well as for young families and on stamp duty and inheritance tax, all these are costed and affordable."

In a further sign, if any were needed, that the election is approaching, the House of Commons authorities have formally told MPs their offices will be "deep cleaned" during the three-week poll campaign.

Mr Blair has yet to name the day - but it is widely expected to be 5 May.

Haha, the Conservatives appear to be no longer Thatcherites.

One thing which strikes me about this is that both parties appear to know how they will need to spend public money in six years' time.
Potaria
18-03-2005, 00:59
You know what the U.K. needs?

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/9373/br1.jpg
Tograna
18-03-2005, 01:12
the big winners in the next elections will be the liberal democrats.

I predict that labour will hold on with a tiny majority and that tories and lib dems will be roughly equal maybe with the lib dems pushing the tories into third and becoming the opposition. Now that'd be somthing


Seriously guys vote lib dem are the only party that has sensible policies.

for those of you who are undecided let me briefly run over a few of their policies.

Anti War - the only party of the 3 "real" parties to be anti war

Scrap council tax - no more unfair council tax, small rise in income tax to compensate, this will help the elderly the most

Scrap top up fees - yup thats right for all you students out there, you may not have to pay em and im going to uni next year so ill be the last year to not pay em, everyone after me has to pay up to 3 grand a year for uni up from 1.2 grand at the moment, you can stop this by voting lib dem
Swimmingpool
18-03-2005, 02:06
Yeah I hope that the Lib Dems push the Tories into 3rd place. Ever since Blair's Labour stole most of the Conservative platform they're been pretty much a bullshit party.
Mystic Mindinao
18-03-2005, 02:08
It's just like the Tories: they are weak in standing up to Labor's deep excesses.
Europaland
18-03-2005, 02:23
The far right policies of both Labour and the Conservatives are of no benefit to the working people of Britain and what we need to see is a radical Socialist alternative which is based on equality and social justice instead of big business and capitalist exploitation. Both the main parties are committed to failed free market policies, reducing social welfare, increasing the retirement age and cutting public services while funding this through indirect taxes which target the poorest in society while the top rate of income tax is still only at 40% (compared to 83% in 1979). Such policies do nothing to help the disadvantaged and marginalised within society and since the shift to the right in 1979 the number of people in poverty has doubled. The working class however will not tolerate this much longer and in Scotland there has been a massive growth in the Scottish Socialist Party (http://www.scottishsocialistparty.org) over the past few years (they now have 15% of the vote in Glasgow) and hopefully Respect and other Socialist parties in England can achieve similar levels of support.
Potaria
18-03-2005, 02:28
It's be nice to see England become Socialist (not Communist. There's a difference, people!).
Swimmingpool
18-03-2005, 02:53
Both the main parties are committed to failed free market policies, reducing social welfare, increasing the retirement age and cutting public services while funding this through indirect taxes which target the poorest in society while the top rate of income tax is still only at 40% (compared to 83% in 1979).
Not that I like Labour or Tories, but Britain tried out very socialist policies in the 1970s, and it failed. The UK was heading towards being one of the EU's poorest countries, and tax rates of 83% were doing more harm than good.

It's be nice to see England become Socialist (not Communist. There's a difference, people!).
England has been quite socialist for a long time. Its society is fundamentally socialist. Thatcher was just a brief reaction to disastrous 70s Labour policies.