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I'm a strong Atheist, so you can ask me any questons about my beliefs or Atheism/Atheists in general.
Go ahead.

BOOOOOO!

*throws popcorn*

Do you consider atheism to be a religion, or lack thereof?

I'm an athiest.

Why do you think this needs a "Ask a..." thread? The belief system is pretty straight forward. There is no God, all questions answered.

I'm a strong Atheist, so you can ask me any questons about my beliefs or Atheism/Atheists in general.
Go ahead.
Why are you a strong atheist, and why can we ask you any questions about your beliefs or Atheism/Atheists in general?

:D

Why are you a strong atheist, and why can we ask you any questions about your beliefs or Atheism/Atheists in general?

:DUh... Why not?
Oh, and why am I an Atheist? Well, I just can't believe that there is some dude up there controlling everything that happens. That is just too much suspension of disbelief for me to handle. I mean, there is no proof that a god exists. In fact, no religion has ever really lasted that long. I think that in a few thousand years, Christianity will be taught in history classes just like we learn ancient Roman religions today. And there is an explanation for how everything happened without god.


Do you consider atheism to be a religion, or lack thereof?Well, its not a religion, but it has aspects of one. There is a real sense of community amongst Atheists, I think.

as a extreme atheist, what minority groups do you plan to opress?

extreme christians oppress homosexuals, extreme muslims oppress women, extreme jews oppress Palestinians, extreme catholics oppress themselves...

I hate atheism. It just seems such a halfassed, immoral approach to life.

I'm a weak atheist. I want to know why you strong atheists think the existance of gods is impossible.

I hate atheism. It just seems such a halfassed, immoral approach to life.
Because everybody knows all atheists have no morals...
:rolleyes:

I hate atheism. It just seems such a halfassed, immoral approach to life.
Yeah, I hate christianity for the same reasons.

as a extreme atheist, what minority groups do you plan to opress?

extreme christians oppress homosexuals, extreme muslims oppress women, extreme jews oppress Palestinians, extreme catholics oppress themselves...I don't plan to oppress minority groups. I plan to oppress majority groups, such as Christians, right-wingers, capitalists... Not really. I mean, I don't want to oppress anyone. I just don't want to be forced to comply with their beliefs. Like when? Well, how about every time I pay with a coin, and "in god we trust" is thrust into my face?

I hate atheism. It just seems such a halfassed, immoral approach to life.
Fun too!

Because everybody knows all atheists have no morals...
:rolleyes:Huh? I disagree. I think that religious people have no morals. Religious people just do good things so that they can go to heaven. I think that that is pretty selfish. Us Atheists, however, do nice things so that other people can be happy, not so that we get any benifit.

Because everybody knows all atheists have no morals...
:rolleyes:

I didn't say that.

Its just that atheism in and of itself does not "teach" ... no encourage is a better word, morality.

Do you like sushi?

I have one question.

Why aren't you agnostic? There's no proof that there is no god either.

Huh? I disagree. I think that religious people have no morals. Religious people just do good things so that they can go to heaven. I think that that is pretty selfish. Us Atheists, however, do nice things so that other people can be happy, not so that we get any benifit.

Not true. I g2g, but telegram me if you want an explanation.

I didn't say that.

Its just that atheism in and of itself does not "teach" ... no encourage is a better word, morality.Exactly. We develop it of our own accord. It does not need to be taught to us.

I have one question.

Why aren't you agnostic? There's no proof that there is no god either.Do you believe that there is a huge cow inside of the earth? There is no proof that there isn't. It's just not very likely.

I feel left out. My question never got answered and my offensive comment never got taken offense to.

Do you believe that there is a huge cow inside of the earth? There is no proof that there isn't. It's just not very likely.

of course there is. Her name is Daisy

Do you believe that there is a huge cow inside of the earth? There is no proof that there isn't. It's just not very likely.
How is the existance of a god less likely?

I didn't say that.

Its just that atheism in and of itself does not "teach" ... no encourage is a better word, morality.
Maybe because it is not an organized religion and has no central authority, and only one belief requirement?

Atheism isn't a moral code, it is a belief. Saying atheism doesn't promote morality is true only because it doesn't even deal with morality.

I feel left out. My question never got answered and my offensive comment never got taken offense to.OK. I am a strong atheist because I find it completely unbelievable that there is this dude up in the sky controlling everything.

How is the existance of a god less likely?You didn't answer my question.
But it is less likely because there is no proof whatsoever, and there is a good explanation for everything happening without a god.

You didn't answer my question.
But it is less likely because there is no proof whatsoever, and there is a good explanation for everything happening without a god.
My point exactly. How do you know? You don't. Why bother to become atheist if you just dislike religion?

You didn't answer my question.
But it is less likely because there is no proof whatsoever, and there is a good explanation for everything happening without a god.

plus god would have to be one twisted nutjob to invent all the stuff religions dump on it.

My point exactly. How do you know? You don't. Why bother to become atheist if you just dislike religion?

which religion of all the hundreds or thousands mankind has come up with should you pick?

OK. I am a strong atheist because I find it completely unbelievable that there is this dude up in the sky controlling everything.
I find it unbeleivable too, but I can't say it's impossible, therefore I'm a weak atheist.

which religion of all the hundreds or thousands mankind has come up with should you pick?
Agnosticism?

which religion of all the hundreds or thousands mankind has come up with should you pick?Yes. Atheism is the one religion that has stayed strong since the beginning of civilization.

Agnosticism?

true agnostic (you CANNOT know) or modern agnostic (I DON'T know)?

I hate atheism. It just seems such a halfassed, immoral approach to life.Conversely, I think that morality is better understood without such pale artifice as religion because most religions seem to paint morality as rather arbitrary and meaningless beyond the whims of their god.

Yeah, I hate christianity for the same reasons.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a *zing*!

I hate atheism. It just seems such a halfassed, immoral approach to life.

no. More accurately it is amoral

true agnostic (you CANNOT know) or modern agnostic (I DON'T know)?
"I don't care, now shut the fuck up" agnosticism

"I don't care, now shut the fuck up" agnosticism

I...see...

At what point in your life did you decide you were an atheist? And would you say personal experiences played a role in the decision?

and have a high five for being atheist. i believe we atheists deserve more high fives.

"I don't care, now shut the fuck up" agnosticism
Ah, so not only are you an apathetic agnostic, you're an extremist apathetic agnostic!

Good choice.

Atheism is just like the theory of relativity. You cannot disprove Atheism, and there is no alternative that is even remotely likely. Except relativity is popular, and Atheism isn't (about 10% in the world). But in the Czech Republic, it is at over 50%!

At what point in your life did you decide you were an atheist? And would you say personal experiences played a role in the decision?

and have a high five for being atheist. i believe we atheists deserve more high fives. :p I basically grew up as an Atheist. I mean, personal experiences shaped it. Really, just reading the paper every day.

Atheism is just like the theory of relativity. You cannot disprove Atheism, and there is no alternative that is even remotely likely. Except relativity is popular, and Atheism isn't (about 10% in the world). But in the Czech Republic, it is at over 50%!

woo!

Go Czechs

Plus they have crazy magic roads in prague

Religion is the creation of man

The bible (or koran etc) is gods word filtered through man

Who knows what god's really like. He probably isnt even a he if He exists.

I prefer paganism, the worship of nature, what god (if it was him but i believe the scientific views) created. Not that i get naked at Stonehenge, i just appriceate living things.

Not that i get naked at Stonehenge
And why not!?

And why not!?

because Britain is a shitty cold rainy place. Being naked outside is no fun here

because Britain is a shitty cold rainy place. Being naked outside is no fun here
Well dance naked outside somewhere!

Originally Posted by Hammolopolis
And why not!?

Those pesky morrals.

Plus it's not a pretty site :(

Well dance naked outside somewhere!

I live in spain now and have been known to skinny dip at midnight in the summer. Just not with other people around!

this was at the start of the thread, but the idea behind religion is that u take it on faith. there isnt supposed to be any proof. thats y its called faith.

I live in spain now and have been known to skinny dip at midnight in the summer. Just not with other people around!
Whats the point of being pagan if you don't dance naked on the solstice?

:p I basically grew up as an Atheist.

You got lucky I guess with the raisin'. I got stuck being raised Lutheran for about 8 years followed by Jehovah's Witnessin' for 5 years. Most of it in the great Christian state of Oklahoma.

this was at the start of the thread, but the idea behind religion is that u take it on faith. there isnt supposed to be any proof. thats y its called faith.

and that's why anyone who embraces reason leaves religion. Faith is the antithesis of reason.

I don't see what's wrong with simply dismissing religion as ludicrous garbage. Some will think of me as rather surface for this, but my opinion is that, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Perhaps there's some small chance that the universe was created by a volitional entity of some sort, but it's as close to zero as makes no odds. The fairy stories that come along with most religions don't really help those odds.

and that's why anyone who embraces reason leaves religion. Faith is the antithesis of reason.
It takes just as much if not more faith to deny the existance of god.

It takes just as much if not more faith to deny the existance of god.
Bullshit. In the absence of any evidence for god it's much easier to assume it's not there.

It takes just as much if not more faith to deny the existance of god.

no it does not. You look at the world with reason and rationalism, and you see no sign of gods.

Like someone said, if 'god' why not giant earth core dwelling cows or space goats?

I didn't say that.

Its just that atheism in and of itself does not "teach" ... no encourage is a better word, morality.

How so? If anything Atheism is the only way to be truly moral. After all, if you're only doing what your god of choice wants you to do, you aren't doing it for hte right reasons. Any sane atheist (I will exclude the "I am the only true person" types from sane) does not wish to cause harm to another human being. The beleif that you shouldn't do to others as you would have them not do to you is prevalent in Atheism...

However, you should also remember that Atheists do not have a single source of great wisdom. Because there is no code of Atheist laws "morality" cannot be tought it is something that you have to choose, which is more "moral" then being moral because you are told to.

Bullshit. In the absence of any evidence for god it's much easier to assume it's not there

Actually, you cannot prove a negative.

You could (theoretically) prove god exists by draging him down here for a little show and tell.

How can you prove he doesnt exist?

"I don't care, now shut the fuck up" agnosticismIt's called "apatheism." The apatheist just doesn't wish to get involved in religious discussions and usually just goes through the "agree, nod, repeat ad infinitum" routine anytime the subject comes up, though some of them will actually become incensed when someone persists in bothering them over it. Basically, they make it clear that they are just wholly uninterested in the subject, though only if forced to comment.

Actually, you cannot prove a negative.

You could (theoretically) prove god exists by draging him down here for a little show and tell.

How can you prove he doesnt exist?

ok, here it is again.

The universe was created by the sneeze of a giant horse
I AM the universe
Some big superhot explosion created the universe
Magic pixies made the universe from fairy dust
God said 'let there be light...'
Alan, the space goat from jupiter, made the universe while pissed one night

which one is true?

You got lucky I guess with the raisin'. I got stuck being raised Lutheran for about 8 years followed by Jehovah's Witnessin' for 5 years. Most of it in the great Christian state of Oklahoma.If god had existed, I think that the 9/11 attacks wouldn't have happened. I remember that day vividly, being a New Yorker, and it was pretty scary. Fortunately, no one who I knew very well was killed. Now many people would say, "well then there is god, who stopped anyone you knew from being killed," but that sounds like a god who is centered around me. Why wouldn't that god stop other people's friends from being killed. I don't like the idea of the world being centered around me.

It takes just as much if not more faith to deny the existance of god.Your assertion has been duly noted.

It takes just as much if not more faith to deny the existance of god.So you just take the easiest path?

So you just take the easiest path?
Huh what?

A) I said I was an Athiest in my first post in this thread.
B) If it takes the same amount of faith to be an Athiest how is either side portrayed as the easy path?

It takes the same faith because I have the same evidence for the non-existence of god as the religious have have for god's existence. I have no proof there is no god, but that is what I believe and I have faith in that. It might even take more faith because I believe something that has no reward or light at the end of the tunnel, theres not even an afterlife. Whats my motivation to believe this? Oh well I still do.

Huh what?

A) I said I was an Athiest in my first post in this thread.
B) If it takes the same amount of faith to be an Athiest how is either side portrayed as the easy path?

It takes the same faith because I have the same evidence for the non-existence of god as the religious have have for god's existence. I have no proof there is no god, but that is what I believe and I have faith in that. It might even take more faith because I believe something that has no reward or light at the end of the tunnel, theres not even an afterlife. Whats my motivation to believe this? Oh well I still do.

you don't need faith. I don't need faith that Daisy is not real (see earlier)

Huh what?

A) I said I was an Athiest in my first post in this thread.
B) If it takes the same amount of faith to be an Athiest how is either side portrayed as the easy path?

It takes the same faith because I have the same evidence for the non-existence of god as the religious have have for god's existence. I have no proof there is no god, but that is what I believe and I have faith in that. It might even take more faith because I believe something that has no reward or light at the end of the tunnel, theres not even an afterlife. Whats my motivation to believe this? Oh well I still do.Oh sorry. Whoops. I mistook your post for something else. Wow. Sorry.
I agree with what you say, actually.

you don't need faith. I don't need faith that Daisy is not real (see earlier)

You mean she isnt real? So when the volcanos erupt it isnt her mooing? :confused: :(

You mean she isnt real? So when the volcanos erupt it isnt her mooing? :confused: :(
Nooooooo duh......

She has lava for milk. Thats her lactating.

ok, here it is again.

The universe was created by the sneeze of a giant horse
I AM the universe
Some big superhot explosion created the universe
Magic pixies made the universe from fairy dust
God said 'let there be light...'
Alan, the space goat from jupiter, made the universe while pissed one night

which one is true?Define "magic" and "pixies" if it isn't too much trouble. The one involving the explosion seems to be based on familiar concepts, but is there any real difference between this explosion and the explosions we can create using dynamite? Who is this "God" fellow, and exactly how is he purported to have gone about creating the universe? If you are the universe, does this mean that every part of your person, including myself, is independently volitional, that every part of your person, including myself, is controlled by the volition of a "central" concsiousness, or that you are the central consciousness of the universe without the universe necessarily being wholly subject to your volition?

She has lava for milk. Thats her lactating.

Oh phew. I thought you were about ti ruin my whole belief system :)

Define "magic" and "pixies" if it isn't too much trouble. The one involving the explosion seems to be based on familiar concepts, but is there any real difference between this explosion and the explosions we can create using dynamite? Who is this "God" fellow, and exactly how is he purported to have gone about creating the universe? If you are the universe, does this mean that every part of your person, including myself, is independently volitional, that every part of your person, including myself, is controlled by the volition of a "central" concsiousness, or that you are the central consciousness of the universe without the universe necessarily being wholly subject to your volition?

Anyone else have a headache ?

Define "magic" and "pixies" if it isn't too much trouble. The one involving the explosion seems to be based on familiar concepts, but is there any real difference between this explosion and the explosions we can create using dynamite? Who is this "God" fellow, and exactly how is he purported to have gone about creating the universe? If you are the universe, does this mean that every part of your person, including myself, is independently volitional, that every part of your person, including myself, is controlled by the volition of a "central" concsiousness, or that you are the central consciousness of the universe without the universe necessarily being wholly subject to your volition?
I think you took that WAY too seriously.

(snip) ... I just don't want to be forced to comply with their beliefs. Like when? Well, how about every time I pay with a coin, and "in god we trust" is thrust into my face?

Jeepers Kariminney Mon! What else ya' gonna put yer economic faith in? MacroEconomics? Free silver? Greenspan the man?

I put *my* faith in *beer*
:p

But I know that you don't honestly believe in this crazy "Daisy" thing. And you do believe in god.

I think you took that WAY too seriously.So? It was more fun that way.

If you are the universe, does this mean that every part of your person, including myself, is independently volitional, that every part of your person, including myself, is controlled by the volition of a "central" concsiousness, or that you are the central consciousness of the universe without the universe necessarily being wholly subject to your volition?
I believe s/he was going from the solipsist angle, although I may be mistaken.

Jeepers Kariminney Mon! What else ya' gonna put yer economic faith in? MacroEconomics? Free silver? Greenspan the man?

I put *my* faith in *beer*
:pNo, I just want religious phrases wiped off the coins, religious lines taken out of the pledge of allegiance, and religious texts taken off of government buildings, in compliance with the constitution of the US.

But I know that you don't honestly believe in this crazy "Daisy" thing. And you do believe in god

they find 5000 yr old men burried in mountains, why not a cow?

So? It was more fun that way.
Bzzzzt!

Wrong!

Everything is more fun when you take nothing seriously. Everything is funny, you just have to know how to look at it.

There are islands like Hawaii, but where do the birds and species on them come from?

There are islands like Hawaii, but where do the birds and species on them come from?Huh. Hmmm... maybe they flew there?

There are islands like Hawaii, but where do the birds and species on them come from?
Continental drift, when pangea broke apart animals were already on the corisponding pieces. Also: Birds can fly.

There are islands like Hawaii, but where do the birds and species on them come from?

With new volcanic islands, the first life is alge, which dies, more algie grows and feeds off it, also dies leaving a fertile soild base. Seeds cary on the wind or in birdie poo, land on the now firtile soil covering and grow. this growth promoted other species to drop in and see whats happening and some like it so much they stay.

Hawaii did not come from continental drift. Duh. It came hardened lava from the MOR being pushed up and out of the water. And no bird flies that far. Because, if the were flying that far, they would be going across continents..no birds do that..

Because, if the were flying that far, they would be going across continents..no birds do that..

Um, yes they do.

Hawaii did not come from continental drift. Duh. It came hardened lava from the MOR being pushed up and out of the water. And no bird flies that far. Because, if the were flying that far, they would be going across continents..no birds do that..How about the birds that go from Northern Europe to Central Africa every year, without stopping?

Bzzzzt!

Wrong!

Everything is more fun when you take nothing seriously. Everything is funny, you just have to know how to look at it.The way I chose to look at it, it was more fun that way. Besides, I like entertaining such questions as if they were meant seriously.

Instead of saying "bless you" when some one sneezes... what do you say?

Continental drift, when pangea broke apart animals were already on the corisponding pieces. Also: Birds can fly.


Er... DOn't get me wrong, but what does continental drift have to do with islands? Well... Except Madagascar.

Most species can make their way across the ocean, plants and birds by means of flight. Ground animals (almost entirely rodents) are carried by flotsam, or on ships.

Instead of saying "bless you" when some one sneezes... what do you say?If snot comes our, I say "you should head for the bathroom right about now." If there's no snot, I say, "bummer, you sneezed!"

Instead of saying "bless you" when some one sneezes... what do you say?


Nothing... Its a pointless action anyway.

Has anyone read the Guardian weekly report on whether humans have a biological basis for religion? It's very interesting... Test of Faith (http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1423450,00.html)

[QUOTE=Jjuulliiaann]Uh... Why not?
Oh, and why am I an Atheist? Well, I just can't believe that there is some dude up there controlling everything that happens. That is just too much suspension of disbelief for me to handle. I mean, there is no proof that a god exists. In fact, no religion has ever really lasted that long. I think that in a few thousand years, Christianity will be taught in history classes just like we learn ancient Roman religions today. And there is an explanation for how everything happened without god.
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The explanation of which you speak is a THEORY. It hasn't been proven. They cannot prove it. And while Christianity itself may only be two thousand years old, it's parent religion, Judaism, is 5 or 6k old at least, and Hinduism is even older. You will also notice that the Christian scripture (therefore, the Hebrew text) does not contradict itself (that is, if you took the time out of your atheism to study the texts.)

Has anyone read the Guardian weekly report on whether humans have a biological basis for religion? It's very interesting... <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1423450,00.html">
Tests of Faith</a>Watch out! You can't use HTML code on these forums.

Pardon me editing ...
No, I just want (1) religious phrases wiped off the coins, (2) religious lines taken out of the pledge of allegiance, (3) and religious texts taken off of government buildings, (4) in compliance with the constitution of the US.

1) Here's a file. Enjoy...

2) Last time I stood up & pledged me allegiance, I pledged to to Lolth, queen of the Demon Web. No one objected. 'Course no one was really paying attention either. Or any other time.

3) Last time I was in the Library of Congress the only text I found on the building *might* be religeous in character; though, it does not bear repeating in polite company.

4) Common "British" critique: "the American constitution is great , 'cept no one can tell you what it means." Perhaps. Never slowed us down...

( need another beer )
:p :p

You will also notice that the Christian scripture (therefore, the Hebrew text) does not contradict itself (that is, if you took the time out of your atheism to study the texts.)Sorry, but check this out (http://www.atheists.org/christianity/contradictions.html).

ok, here it is again.

The universe was created by the sneeze of a giant horse
I AM the universe
Some big superhot explosion created the universe
Magic pixies made the universe from fairy dust
God said 'let there be light...'
Alan, the space goat from jupiter, made the universe while pissed one night

which one is true?
At one point, I actually did think that it was possible that I was the universe. This thinking continued for about two weeks until, after a long argument, I saw the error in my belief and shushed about it. o_O

I pledged to to Lolth, queen of the Demon Web.
L'elamshin d'lil Ilythiiri zhah ulu har'luth jal.

That being said...

Xuat dos inbal natha dro? Usstan hass'l...gaer ph' ravhelen d' phraktos/quar'valsharessen alur taga Lolth ulu detholar tlu loyal ulu.

Sorry, but check this out (http://www.atheists.org/christianity/contradictions.html).
Scriptures and scripture passages were cut out there to deliberately twist the meaning, and while the word of GOD is infallible, the actions of man aren't

"... Thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God..." -- Leviticus 18:21

[In Judges, though, the tale of Jephthah, who led the Israelites against the Ammonoites, is being told. Being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. So he prayed to god] "... If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering" (Judges 11:30-31).

[The terms were acceptable to god -- remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future -- so he gave victory to Jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surely knew would happen, if god is god. True to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god!] -- Judges 11:29-34

for example. If you cut off bits and pieces, and rearrange things a bit, the most benevolent blessing can contradict itself, or even become a curse.

Aside from that...your site is biased. Unbiased source, if you don't mind.

ummm, the torah contradicts itself (trust me, many times on many different matters, i am a jew and theres the saying 1 jew 2 opinions so a bunch of jews writing gods words=many contradictions)



ANnd yea, why are people so opposed to Athiesm??? I am really confused about that :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

No, I just want religious phrases wiped off the coins, religious lines taken out of the pledge of allegiance, and religious texts taken off of government buildings, in compliance with the constitution of the US.

How about if we change it to "in God we trust, everyone else has to pay with this."

ANnd yea, why are people so opposed to Athiesm??? I am really confused about that :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
They are jealous of our freedom.

ummm, the torah contradicts itself (trust me, many times on many different matters, i am a jew and theres the saying 1 jew 2 opinions so a bunch of jews writing gods words=many contradictions)



ANnd yea, why are people so opposed to Athiesm??? I am really confused about that :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


Religion, especially the dogmatism present in America, breeds hate. It creates an "us" and a "them" and to the religious Atheism is the ultimate "Them"

If god had existed, I think that the 9/11 attacks wouldn't have happened. I remember that day vividly, being a New Yorker, and it was pretty scary. Fortunately, no one who I knew very well was killed. Now many people would say, "well then there is god, who stopped anyone you knew from being killed," but that sounds like a god who is centered around me. Why wouldn't that god stop other people's friends from being killed. I don't like the idea of the world being centered around me.


Even if you don’t believe in God, the argument that there is not a God because why would he allows suffering seems to me to be one of the weaker arguments, yet it is the argument against God’s existence that most humans, both the religious and not religious, will turn too at one point in their lives, often during times of great suffering in their lives.
However I would say that suffering could be described in a way as a gift from God, as it allows us to distinguish between good and evil, between joy and sorrow, pleasure and suffering etc. Without suffering, there would be no freedom at all, and no meaning for existence. If we did not suffer, I would argue that we would not even be really alive at all.
Thus the argument that for God to exist there would have to be no suffering cannot work, as if there was no suffering then you would not be alive anyway.
I am not saying that God has to exist because there is suffering in the world, just that you cannot deny the existence of God based on there being suffering in the world.

ummm, the torah contradicts itself (trust me, many times on many different matters, i am a jew and theres the saying 1 jew 2 opinions so a bunch of jews writing gods words=many contradictions)



ANnd yea, why are people so opposed to Athiesm??? I am really confused about that :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

The same reason they're homophobic. They think that everyone in the country is just a hair's breath away from adopting it as an overriding principle.

These are the people who don't seem to realize that in for 133 years of California they didn't have a single case of necrophelia and as soon as they did it was outlawed. If you repeal the law California will NOT break down into the stage version of "Night of the Loving Dead." (btw, does anyone know if that's an actual movie?)

They do seem to think that if homosexuality is legal however it will mean the end of straight living.

Pardon me ( respectful ) editing

( snip - Various Holy writing that I am unworthy to repeat )
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Well, uh, you see, uh, it's like this,

Being the the High Holyness that she is - it is the fate of the lowly despicable male to pledge his alligence to one of her matrons, not *herself* directly. So she never responded.

Still, being the female as she is I see no reason not to worship the ground she walks on - or any other female for that matter.

Hmmm. Ina. How very feminine...

:headbang: <- allow me to present this worshipfull icon to your wonderfullness, as the "Bill & Teds' most excellent adventure - WE ARE NOT WORHTY" icon is presently unavailible.

You will also notice that the Christian scripture (therefore, the Hebrew text) does not contradict itself (that is, if you took the time out of your atheism to study the texts.)

:D I think I just wet myself laughing ...