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Spanking!.. Help my Human Comms assignment.

Greedy Pig
16-03-2005, 18:58
Hey, I know the topic has been done many times before. But for the sake of statistics (I need some survey thingy done in my assignment,) you can reply what you think about Spanking.. And please fill out the poll above. Thanks..
Drunk commies
16-03-2005, 19:04
Actually I was beaten when I was a child. I think some level of corporal punishment is acceptable, and even desirable, but it shouldn't get excessive like it did sometimes in my family.
Greedy Pig
16-03-2005, 19:08
You can argue about it if you want.. (Since we haven't had a spanking thread for quite a while.)

Anyway.. I have been spanked(corporeal punishment etc), And I advocate spanking.. Only as a last resort when a child totally doesn't listen at all especially for serious naughtiness that If not, it could bring serious damage to the child in return.

Plus, I believe a child, at the should only be spanked around the age of 3-7, as they are still immature to reason things out and communication doesn't always reach the child.

From then up, use verbal or other forms of punishment like revoking rights, sitting in a corner etc.

And finally I believe it is the right of every parent to spank or discipline their child in any manner they seem fit, as long as it's not abuse. (But where do we draw the line to abuse.. :D We can argue over it.. But now I need to sleep. It's 2am)
Willamena
16-03-2005, 19:09
I think spanking has to have some clear parameters that distinguish it from beating or violence. As a deterrent, I think it is an effective form of teaching children the value of obedience.

I would note that other mammals employ spanking as a simliar deterrent.
Korarchaeota
16-03-2005, 19:15
I don't advocate it, per se, but understand that as a last-resort option where a child is in danger of serious harm to themselves or someone else, it could be appropriate. (Open hand, clothed bottom only) But generally, it sets a crappy example about hitting, so I would not outright endorse it.
Europaland
16-03-2005, 19:32
I am completely opposed to any form of physical violence towards children as it has harmful effects such as giving children the belief that violence is more acceptable (this is reflected in the poll results). It is considered unacceptable to hit other adults in the street and I don't see any difference with young vulnerable children who deserve to protected from all forms of violence and abuse. I was occasionally smacked when I was younger and I think there are much better ways for parents to deal with bad behaviour from their children.
Keruvalia
16-03-2005, 19:34
Beat on the brat
Beat on the brat
Breat on the brat with a baseball bat
Oh yeah
Oh yeah
Ooh
Occidio Multus
16-03-2005, 19:38
Beat on the brat
Beat on the brat
Breat on the brat with a baseball bat
Oh yeah
Oh yeah
Ooh
i love this man.


wait!! you mean kids?the thread title didnt mention the the spanking of CHILDREN. i guess my comments wont be appreciated, then.
Alien Born
16-03-2005, 19:39
Beat on the brat
Beat on the brat
Breat on the brat with a baseball bat
Oh yeah
Oh yeah
Ooh

Any recommendations as to what we should substitute the baseball bat for in parts of the world where baseball is not played? ;)
Keruvalia
16-03-2005, 19:42
Any recommendations as to what we should substitute the baseball bat for in parts of the world where baseball is not played? ;)

lol ... no ... :p
Keruvalia
16-03-2005, 19:42
i love this man.

Very mutual


wait!! you mean kids?the thread title didnt mention the the spanking of CHILDREN. i guess my comments wont be appreciated, then.

And there's why. :p ;)
Occidio Multus
16-03-2005, 19:45
Very mutual




And there's why. :p ;)
hey ,get on yahoo and tell me if those are hints to mixed race love in your sig.... :p
Haken Rider
16-03-2005, 19:46
Any recommendations as to what we should substitute the baseball bat for in parts of the world where baseball is not played? ;)
tennisrackets?
Keruvalia
16-03-2005, 19:50
hey ,get on yahoo and tell me if those are hints to mixed race love in your sig.... :p

I'm on Yahoo ... just invisible. :)

Mixed race love is the best kind.
Cadillac-Gage
16-03-2005, 19:50
tennisrackets?

Nah...Cricket-Bats, maybe.
Wolfrest
16-03-2005, 19:52
tennisrackets?

Lol. You can use em as paddles on the poor little dears and they'll be scared for life ;)
Burgman-Allen
16-03-2005, 20:26
I don't necessarily advocate spanking, but some sort of discipline is occasionally needed. Some people think it's wrong to spank a child, but I think it can be ok if it's not abusive.
Zotona
16-03-2005, 20:36
I am against spanking or any form of corporal punishment. I think there are better methods of punishment. I got time outs when I was younger as a child, which were not only effective but allowed me to develop ways to entertain myself and helped my imagination to grow. It is probably one of the reasons I am now considered an above average writer for my age group. Now I get my priveledges yanked for certain amounts of time, which is also highly effective.

NOTE: I always got a warning before punishment was enforced.
NOTE 2.0: I tend to be very well behaved, better than most children my age.
Haken Rider
16-03-2005, 20:39
Lol. You can use em as paddles on the poor little dears and they'll be scared for life ;)
and if that doesn't scare them of, the asorti white socks will.
Sinuhue
16-03-2005, 20:50
I voted I don't support it, but that's actually misleading. I don't say, "never ever", but neither is it my main form of discipline. I would spank my kids for very specific reasons...when they have done or were about to do something dangerous. That's it. When you need to get a point across RIGHT NOW that something is dangerous, spank. With an open hand on a clothed bum. That's it.
Gooooold
16-03-2005, 20:52
I would say that spanking is acceptable, but only after everything else has failed. There should be a clear line between acceptable punishment and abuse though, which should never be crossed.
Karas
16-03-2005, 21:18
I would say that spanking is acceptable, but only after everything else has failed. There should be a clear line between acceptable punishment and abuse though, which should never be crossed.

There should be, but there isn't. The truth is that the line is very subjective. One person's abuse is another person's tough love.

Spanking rarely solves anything. It usually just causes more problems. While it may seem like a quick and easy solution to the immediate problem it can cause mroe problems in the long run.
For one, if overused it teaches the child that violence is the accptable way to ensure compliance. Girlfrind doesn't want to have sex? Just hit her untill she changes her mind. Boyfriend doesn't want to have sex? Just tear his testicle off with your bare hands.
There is also the problem that comes when the kid figures out that he can avoid punishment by using even greater violence against his parents. Then he can get away with anything.

Lets not leave out the fact that spanking can also devolp into a paraphillia. Then you'd have the kid getting into trouble on purpose in order to enjoy the punishment.

I advocate spanking, but only between consenting adults.
Autocraticama
16-03-2005, 21:19
Spanking is perfectly acceptable if nothing else works, and if no bruising or real damage is involved. I do not advocate slapping a childs face (my mom bloodid my nose doing that to me) or washing mouth out wth soap. Spanking i believe is scceptable up until about 10 years of age, at which point the child should bne mature enough to have more psycological forms of punishment. such as grounding, revoking privaledges, loss of allownace, given moer chores, and the one that worked on me best of all was making me pay money when i did somehting wrong. I was a very very good young child, i had a mean streak around 13-15 where i was very rebellious, so that is when punishment kicked in for me. bnut i was spanked when i was a child for being a dange rto myself and others.
Todays Romans
16-03-2005, 21:25
I was only spanked once as a kid. It doesnt hurt it just makes you cry. I think that it is ok as a last resort punishment.
Phycotica
16-03-2005, 21:26
I was spanked with a brush that had a happy face drawn on it. My parents would threaten me with "Mr. Happy-Face" if I was being to rowdy. I will continue the tradition of swatting children, though probably not with the brush. It's a lot more mental punishment that phisical punishment so objects add mostly an outlet for the fear of being punished.
Brothertupelo
16-03-2005, 21:27
i knew a family with two small daughters. the older one was three or so. when she misbehaved, she was sent to the bathroom until she was ready to act civilized. she was incredibly well behaved.
Quorm
16-03-2005, 21:31
You really needed to include more options in your poll. I certainly don't advocate spanking most of the time, but it has its uses
Liberatania
16-03-2005, 21:35
spanking! oooooooooooo, i LOVE it. been too long since my Mistress took me over Her knee and.........

oh. did i misunderstand the question? :D
Mykonians
16-03-2005, 21:46
I've had personal experience of children who will not listen to any sort of reason, threat or simple scolding and the only way to calm them down or force them to stop what they are doing wrong is to give them a smack. Doesn't have to be hard, doesn't even have to hurt, it's just the shock of it that usually does the trick. My aunt has children whom she refuses to smack, and they are little more than uncontrollable, disrespectful thugs, who ignore her when she tells them to do anything.

So yes, I think it's a necessary evil in the upbringing of a child, and no, I don't support actually severely hurting or abusing children. I would also say that it should only be used as a last resort, mainly because the child will likely respect the severity of the action more and will probably be more shocked by the very idea that they were hit. And the older they get, the more you should try and reason with them rather than hit them. By the time they're teenagers, you should only be smacking them if they do something totally out-of-order like put another kid in hospital or something. Yes, I was smacked as a child once or twice (flooding the lounge with milk, pouring an entire bottle of shampoo down the toilet, painting the walls with my mothers makeup, seeing how many kitchen pots and pans I could fill with bubbles... traditional 2-year-old boy hobbies really. I never tried any of those things again after I'd been given a clip round the ear, though...).

Yes I can also understand the arguments against it; all too often children are punished with excessive physical violence and that I do not support. There's no reason to beat a child. If there ever was a reason for such brutal treatment, it would be a sign that you as a parent failed, not that the child deserved it.
Temme
16-03-2005, 21:50
Well, I think it should be used only for the most extreme offenses (e.g. if your kid has a bad habit of running into the street.) It should be a cut above everything else you do.

My own story of spanking: I was spanked as a kid. I'm not sure if it's my parents' fault for spanking me or if I was just a messed up kid, but a couple of years ago (Grade 8) I used to hit myself when I did something wrong. My parents would get mad at me for something I'd done, and I'd respond by hitting myself. Like I said, I'm not sure if that's my parents' fault or if I was messed in the head.
Ramissle
16-03-2005, 22:16
Like Greedy Pigs said, only in kids 3-7. Just telling them alone doesn't get the point across.
I was spanked as a child, and do you know what I got out of it? Simple. I'm well behaved and I don't cry, like since 5th grade (and even then it was something huge).
Greedy Pig
16-03-2005, 23:56
Bumps thread before class. :P