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Europeans are now the worlds fat asses.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=584169

Nothing worse than fat ass Europeans.

That's it. We're doomed. :(

Jeez...I knew Europe was catching up to the U.S. in this regard, but I had no idea it was happening so quickly...

I think the fat between there ears has alot to do with it :p

I'm getting rather sick of people (of the US especially) that seem to think that Europe is ONE country. It's not. There are vast differences in life styles and cultures between the nations.

As for the article, It was rather lacking in real statistics. The only nation they actually gave high numbers to is Greece. Having been there and experienced their culinary habits, I can honestly say I'm only surprised this didn't happen sooner. In most non-Mediterranean countries however, the obesity numbers are still low. The article quoted French women to 11.3% obese, compared to 34% in US women.

Just because there are some others that might be fatter than the US, doesn't mean they don't still have problems with obesity.

/rant

Europeans are now the worlds fat asses.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=584169

Nothing worse than fat ass Europeans.


I'll think you'll find that Europe is made up of rather more than 7 countries.

I think the fat between there ears has alot to do with it :p

I certainly hope people of Europe have fat in their heads. Without fat, brains don't function. Are you saying that Americans don't...

Ohhh, I think I see now! :p

I'm getting rather sick of people (of the US especially) that seem to think that Europe is ONE country. It's not. There are vast differences in life styles and cultures between the nations.

As for the article, It was rather lacking in real statistics. The only nation they actually gave high numbers to is Greece. Having been there and experienced their culinary habits, I can honestly say I'm only surprised this didn't happen sooner. In most non-Mediterranean countries however, the obesity numbers are still low. The article quoted French women to 11.3% obese, compared to 34% in US women.

Just because there are some others that might be fatter than the US, doesn't mean they don't still have problems with obesity.

/rant
Calm down fatso don't want to overstress theat overworked European heart, as for France you will soon be as fat as the rest of your obese neibors. The French will be fat and arrogant.

I think its time for another World War!

Calm down fatso don't want to overstress theat overworked European heart, as for France you will soon be as fat as the rest of your obese neibors. The French will be fat and arrogant.

Don't go projecting on me. My weight is in the ideal BMI range, as are most Swedes'. Yes, Swedes, not French. It's written right there under my user name to the left. I have to assume you're from the US because you don't seem to know the difference between Sweden and France and you can't spell your own language (it's neighbor).

But there I go generalizing again. Apologies to all educated rational Americans, who I know to be in majority over there. :fluffle:

In the US, our fatness proves our economic and agricultural superiority.

We not only have the bomb, but we gots all da food! USA! USA! USA!

Don't go projecting on me. My weight is in the ideal BMI range, as are most Swedes'. Yes, Swedes, not French. It's written right there under my user name to the left. I have to assume you're from the US because you don't seem to know the difference between Sweden and France and you can't spell your own language (it's neighbor).

But there I go generalizing again. Apologies to all educated rational Americans, who I know to be in majority over there. :fluffle:
Hey tubby you dont have to insult me over a typo its not my fault you live on an obese Continent.

For some reason the International Obesity Task Force reminds me of George Carlin's Flatulent Airbourne Reconnaissance Teams.

Even though the article is a little short on evidence, it seems to be saying that a move to obesity is largely due to an increase in the American-style fast food diet.


Calm down fatso don't want to overstress theat overworked European heart, as for France you will soon be as fat as the rest of your obese neibors. The French will be fat and arrogant.

Hmm, "In France, obesity in women rose from 8 percent in 1997 to 11.3 percent in 2003, and from 8.4 percent to 11.4 percent in men."

That means over a course of 6 years the French obesity rate increased by 3.3% for women and 3% for men.

Put that against the US's 34% for women and 67% for men (both statistics used in article). It appears that it will take around 12 years (from 2003), that is not soon. It also relies on two assumption, the increase is uniform, America's percentage remains the same.

For men it will take longer.

I'd expect better from a person that originally posted the article.


Maths liable to be wrong.

Hey tubby you dont have to insult me over a typo its not my fault you live on an obese Continent.

Apparently you can't read your own language, either, because you obviously haven't noted a single thing I said. Either that or you're just trying to be annoying. Probably a little of both.

Apparently you can't read your own language, either, because you obviously haven't noted a single thing I said. Either that or you're just trying to be annoying. Probably a little of both.
Remember who you are talking to; someone that appears to have missed the point of the article that he posted.

I'm getting rather sick of people (of the US especially) that seem to think that Europe is ONE country. It's not. There are vast differences in life styles and cultures between the nations.

Replaced the word 'nations' with 'states' and you get the same thing in the US. ;)

For some reason the International Obesity Task Force reminds me of George Carlin's Flatulent Airbourne Reconnaissance Teams.

Even though the article is a little short on evidence, it seems to be saying that a move to obesity is largely due to an increase in the American-style fast food diet.



Hmm, "In France, obesity in women rose from 8 percent in 1997 to 11.3 percent in 2003, and from 8.4 percent to 11.4 percent in men."

That means over a course of 6 years the French obesity rate increased by 3.3% for women and 3% for men.

Put that against the US's 34% for women and 67% for men (both statistics used in article). It appears that it will take around 12 years (from 2003), that is not soon. It also relies on two assumption, the increase is uniform, America's percentage remains the same.

For men it will take longer.

I'd expect better from a person that originally posted the article.


Maths liable to be wrong.
You guys are too serious I am just messing around. I am just saying to the Europeans what they have been telling us (Americans) for a long time now. Americans have learned to laugh at their obesity epidemic. I guess Europeans are just a little to sensitive to joke with. Its probably a hate crime in Europe to make a fat joke.

Replaced the word 'nations' with 'states' and you get the same thing in the US. ;)

Very true, something I suppose Europeans often forget. However, I think that the differences between European countries is a bit bigger than the differences between the states. Nation borders and language barriers mean that there's a lot less people moving between the countries than there are Americans moving from state to state, for one thing. Also, the nations over here have had a lot longer time to establish their way of life. Still, you make a valid point.

Regardless of the validity of any statements here, its a direct result of the American fast food chain colonising the world imho ;)

You guys are too serious I am just messing around. I am just saying to the Europeans what they have been telling us (Americans) for a long time now. Americans have learned to laugh at their obesity epidemic. I guess Europeans are just a little to sensitive to joke with. Its probably a hate crime in Europe to make a fat joke.

Please, if you want to troll read some Jesussaves threads. That's how you troll.

In the US, our fatness proves our economic and agricultural superiority.

We not only have the bomb, but we gots all da food! USA! USA! USA!

Ah, but Americans dont have the CAP!

Regardless of the validity of any statements here, its a direct result of the American fast food chain colonising the world imho ;)
It appears the article vindicates your opinion somewhat:

"Obesity is especially acute in Mediterranean countries, underscoring concerns that people in the southern region are turning away from the traditional diet of fish, fruits and vegetables to fast food high in fat and refined carbohydrates."

Obesity Higher in Some European Countries
The Proportion of Overweight or Obese Men Is Higher in Some European Countries Than in the U.S.


BRUSSELS, Belgium Mar 15, 2005 — At least seven European countries now challenge the United States in size at least around the waistline.

The analysis was released as the 25-nation European Union announced an initiative to enlist the food and marketing industries in the fight against fat.


You were saying..?

Ah, but Americans dont have the CAP!
AFAIK they have something similar.

You guys are too serious I am just messing around. I am just saying to the Europeans what they have been telling us (Americans) for a long time now. Americans have learned to laugh at their obesity epidemic. I guess Europeans are just a little to sensitive to joke with. Its probably a hate crime in Europe to make a fat joke.

Oops. *blushes*. Guess I should have noticed, but then again it's hard to tell if someone is joking when all you see is typed text. Also, there's the fact that there are a lot of people that would seriously react the way you jokingly did.

The American obesity epidemic should not be a joking matter to the American people, as it is a severe health risk. The European nations facing this growing problem should take it seriously too, and do what they can to nip it in the bud.

And no, it's not a hate crime to make fat jokes. If it were, we wouldn't be able to make fun of Americans. :D

ABC, such a great news agency *snickers*

Well, the obesity does have at least ONE perk: I sometimes have a thing for big women ;)

Regardless of the validity of any statements here, its a direct result of the American fast food chain colonising the world imho ;)

Point. But even that has gotten better. I don't know how things are in the states, but over here McDonald's has had a "healthy trend" going for a while now, with large (and tasty) sallads, fruit, etc on the menu. And with the latest Happy Meals kids get sporty things like hockey clubs and such. So even the fast food chains can take their responsibility.

Please, if you want to troll read some Jesussaves threads. That's how you troll.
Get a life

Get a life

Hey, he's learning already! :)

Hey, he's learning already! :)
Nah, he can do better.

Like promising to pray for my eternal soul ;)

I certainly hope people of Europe have fat in their heads. Without fat, brains don't function. Are you saying that Americans don't...

Ohhh, I think I see now! :p
Hahaha. Hooray for demyelination. :D

Hahaha. Hooray for demyelination. :D

I'm glad somebody got that... :D

Hey tubby you dont have to insult me over a typo its not my fault you live on an obese Continent.

I'm 10 Stone. Perfect for my height. I can lift up to 40 Stone. I live in the UK. Don't EVER assume everyone is fat because of statistics. There is only one statistic that is true:

100% of statistics should never be trusted. Especially if founded by the American government.

If you are here merely to insult and critisise, stop being such a moron and go away. If you tell me to get a life, get one yourself Hypocryte, and stop wasting our time!

I am sick of losers like you comming into the forum just to have a go at what we do. That is highly hypocrytical. Just do yourself and us a favour and leave the forum at once. Or at least show some respect. You know, it's people like you who create the steriotypical view of americans. LOSERS! Stop making your people look so stupid.

And one last thing-learn proper spelling and punctuation.

Very true, something I suppose Europeans often forget. However, I think that the differences between European countries is a bit bigger than the differences between the states. Nation borders and language barriers mean that there's a lot less people moving between the countries than there are Americans moving from state to state, for one thing. Also, the nations over here have had a lot longer time to establish their way of life. Still, you make a valid point.

I have to correct you here. The USA shares a common root language much as France, Spain & Italy share Latin as a root language. Americans have diverged English into our own sub-languages; far beyond dialects.

There is for example: New Yorker, Bostonian, Minnesotan, Southern, Deep Southern, Cajun, Cali, the pidgin of English & Hawaiian, and loathe to admit it Ebonics.

I'm fluent in Southern, proficient in Deep Southern, and can get the gist of New Yorker, Bostonian and Cajun. I'm totally lost on the others. :confused:

I know there are many other American languages I have missed, some geographical, others sub-cultural. If you lock a Table-top Gamer, a Surfer, and an Extreme Biker in the same room they may be able to grunt a greeting to eachother but not much else.

However you are correct in it being easier to cross a state line than a national border; but it has been recommended on several occasions that a passport be required to cross the Mason-Dixon Line.

*snip*

I understand completely. Even my little 9 million person country of Sweden has extremely variable dialects. A person from the southern end talks very differently than a person from the northern end, and people from the island of Gotland off our east coast are nigh incomprehensible.

I have to correct you here. The USA shares a common root language much as France, Spain & Italy share Latin as a root language. Americans have diverged English into our own sub-languages; far beyond dialects.

There is for example: New Yorker, Bostonian, Minnesotan, Southern, Deep Southern, Cajun, Cali, the pidgin of English & Hawaiian, and loathe to admit it Ebonics.

I'm fluent in Southern, proficient in Deep Southern, and can get the gist of New Yorker, Bostonian and Cajun. I'm totally lost on the others. :confused:

I know there are many other American languages I have missed, some geographical, others sub-cultural. If you lock a Table-top Gamer, a Surfer, and an Extreme Biker in the same room they may be able to grunt a greeting to eachother but not much else.

However you are correct in it being easier to cross a state line than a national border; but it has been recommended on several occasions that a passport be required to cross the Mason-Dixon Line.

They aren't different languages though.

In the same way Broad Yorkshire, Cockney rhyming-slang, Scouse and Glaswegian aren't different languages.

It's all the fault of McDonalds and all the other fast food chains! :mad:

Great thread great posters I love it!

Very true, something I suppose Europeans often forget. However, I think that the differences between European countries is a bit bigger than the differences between the states. Nation borders and language barriers mean that there's a lot less people moving between the countries than there are Americans moving from state to state, for one thing. Also, the nations over here have had a lot longer time to establish their way of life. Still, you make a valid point.

I agree here. Especially in the context of the obesity epidemic that's affecting the west at present - the cultural differences towards eating/meals/foods are far more profound between European countries than between US states. For instance, whilst the French do not suffer from obesity in such numbers as some other European countries (e.g. UK, Germany), their typical food is actually quite high in fat - however, France still has a strong culture of eating at defined times of the day (breakfast, lunch, dinner), and eating is still a very strong cultural experience to be enjoyed together (e.g. with family, friends etc)... thus they tend to eat fresh food at set times of the day, rather than junk food / snacking throughout.

Obesity seems to be increasing everywhere in the west though - I believe it's worse here (Sweden) than in the past also. Maybe this is why the sea levels are rising, because in fact it's the land that's sinking under all of our weight :D

They aren't different languages though.
In the same way Broad Yorkshire, Cockney rhyming-slang, Scouse and Glaswegian aren't different languages.

I'm not personally familiar with Broad Yorkshire, Scouse or Glaswegian; but I will argue that Cockney Rhyme is a seperate language.

The words may be familiar to another English speaker, but the syntax, and meaning have been reworked for the specific purpose of being indeciferable to those not proficient in it.

out of curiousity...how did this go from fat people to dialects?

out of curiousity...how did this go from fat people to dialects?

Correct, let us go back to nearly 1/3 the European Union joining the USA in being fat asses.

I'm 10 Stone. Perfect for my height. I can lift up to 40 Stone. I live in the UK. Don't EVER assume everyone is fat because of statistics. There is only one statistic that is true:

100% of statistics should never be trusted. Especially if founded by the American government.

If you are here merely to insult and critisise, stop being such a moron and go away. If you tell me to get a life, get one yourself Hypocryte, and stop wasting our time!

I am sick of losers like you comming into the forum just to have a go at what we do. That is highly hypocrytical. Just do yourself and us a favour and leave the forum at once. Or at least show some respect. You know, it's people like you who create the steriotypical view of americans. LOSERS! Stop making your people look so stupid.

And one last thing-learn proper spelling and punctuation.
Are you a women or are you just an overly sensitive wuss? If you could not tell I was kidding then you are the loser.

out of curiousity...how did this go from fat people to dialects?
Obesity -> restricted windpipes -> strangulated vocalisation -> word changes -> dialects.

Alternatively:

Obesity -> restricted movement -> increased isolation of sub-populations -> dialects.

This is americas answer to the obisity problem.... make everyone fat. rather then slim down to the rest of the world, make the rest of the world fat.

spoiler:
i'm jokeing

dude,dont profile all of america,its not like we FORCE this food down your throats.its YOUR choice whether you eat it or not.it doesnt take a genius to realize that if you eat fast food,your GONNA get fat.im sick of the whole world turning on america and making us their scapegoat for problems that america had little or nothing to do with

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Obesity seems to be increasing everywhere in the west though - I believe it's worse here (Sweden) than in the past also. Maybe this is why the sea levels are rising, because in fact it's the land that's sinking under all of our weight :D

No no, it's all because of fat tourists in blasphemously tiny swim suits going swimming in the ocean. :)

(Uppsala? Där bor min doktorandhandledare. ;) /Swedish)

dude,dont profile all of america,its not like we FORCE this food down your throats.its YOUR choice whether you eat it or not.it doesnt take a genius to realize that if you eat fast food,your GONNA get fat.im sick of the whole world turning on america and making us their scapegoat for problems that america had little or nothing to do with
some one did not read my spoiler... and they say we are up tight

The report says it's mainly children and due to school dinners.
Kudos to Jamie Oliver! (Ch 4, 9pm, Weds).

some one did not read my spoiler... and they say we are up tight
Somone was bound to take you seriously. :D

what the hell is a spoiler?

Are you a women or are you just an overly sensitive wuss? If you could not tell I was kidding then you are the loser.
Was that an attempt to insult me? I thought it was a breath of wind...

Look, it's diffucult to spot sarcasm over the net. It's mainly about tone of voice. Or are you just changing your story to protect the fact you've been creamed in your argument?

Either way this thread is a pathetic waste of time.

Somone was bound to take you seriously. :D

strange thought don't ya think?? americans have a pop at us lot of generization aimed at france.... and don't even say that there jokeing and say were are uptight

i take a pop back less offensive (IMO) make a note that i'm joking on the post and i'm the bad guy..

why does the term pot.. kettal and black come to mind??

Aww...bless the fat americans....they don't want to feel like their alone in being fat, so they try to say Europeans are fat too.



*Prods Fat American*

Oi fatty! Cut down on the porklife mate, get some exercise! Fatty! Tubby tub! Chunky! Lard! Porky!

*Exits angry mode*

Why am I getting angry over somthing so silly! Let's go mad!

*Enters insane mode*

Lets get fat!

http://www.sportsweb.as/images/fat-people-230.jpg

what the hell is a spoiler?
a spoiler is some thing that will give a part of the story away like reading a section of a film before seeing it that would spoil part of the film for you..

What I don't get is why all these people think they're fat. They think its the restaurants fault, the Televeision shows fault, etc. It isn't. ITS YOUR FAULT! YOU are the one that made YOU eat those BigMacs, not Ronald McDonald. So if you wanna get fit again you not so fit people, all you fat Europeans and fat Americans need to do is exercise. I used to be this overweight kid, but then I moved here to Panama and enjoyed the wonders of "Swimming" and "Baseball" and "American Football"( I still think "Football/Soccer is pure evil, though") and began to eat healthy foods (Apples, oranges, etc).

So if your tired of being fat, exercise and eat right! D'uh!

Was that an attempt to insult me? I thought it was a breath of wind...

Look, it's diffucult to spot sarcasm over the net. It's mainly about tone of voice. Or are you just changing your story to protect the fact you've been creamed in your argument?

Either way this thread is a pathetic waste of time.
WTF are you talking about? I admitted my sarcasm in a previous post. As for the argument that alot of Europeans have joined the fatass club there is no arguing that. Europeans are getting fatter face reality wussy boy.

*Exits angry mode*

Why am I getting angry over somthing so silly! Let's go mad!

*Enters insane mode*

Lets get fat!

http://www.sportsweb.as/images/fat-people-230.jpg

Aagh, my eyes!

TIN has ruined my life. Again.

Aww...bless the fat americans....they don't want to feel like their alone in being fat, so they try to say Europeans are fat too.



*Prods Fat American*

Oi fatty! Cut down on the porklife mate, get some exercise! Fatty! Tubby tub! Chunky! Lard! Porky!
Hey we dont want to be the only fat kid , we are so happy to hear that we are not the only lard ass in the neighborhood anymore.

WTF are you talking about? I admitted my sarcasm in a previous post. As for the argument that alot of Europeans have joined the fatass club there is no arguing that. Europeans are getting fatter face reality wussy boy.

http://img165.exs.cx/img165/6155/imagemad0zb.jpg

Who wants their eyes burnt out with lunacy?

Who wants their eyes burnt out with lunacy?
Ooh, ooh, me please! *joins queue*

Who wants their eyes burnt out with lunacy?
YEY MADNESS!!! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :gundge: :gundge: :gundge:

to be honest it doesnt matter how fat we europeans get because the WHOLE world knows that americans are the fattest most ugly retarded delinquents of all the nations. So shut yer yap you fat pigs and leave europe out of your fat posts because you slack jawed redneck hillbilly american skum who cant lift themselves up out of bed cos they so fat, shut those gapeing mouths of yours and maybe you'll lose some weight, IT MAY ALSO STOP THE SHIT YOU ALWAYS TALK FROM COMING OUT

http://www.highlinerschool.com/images/fishsticks.gif

to be honest it doesnt matter how fat we europeans get because the WHOLE world knows that americans are the fattest most ugly retarded delinquents of all the nations. So shut yer yap you fat pigs and leave europe out of your fat posts because you slack jawed redneck hillbilly american skum who cant lift themselves up out of bed cos they so fat, shut those gapeing mouths of yours and maybe you'll lose some weight, IT MAY ALSO STOP THE SHIT YOU ALWAYS TALK FROM COMING OUT

http://www.lambdapsiphi.com/daft/daftsupp/art/qj-angry.gif
RAAAAAAAAAAR!

Hey we dont want to be the only fat kid , we are so happy to hear that we are not the only lard ass in the neighborhood anymore.

Americans are fatter! nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh!

I'm not surprised about Germany being on the list. However, if you listen to the Europeans who post here, you would think that Germans are positively skinny.

I've been really tired of Europeans who say we're fat couch potatoes.

Nice to see that they got fat saying that.

I'll think you'll find that Europe is made up of rather more than 7 countries.

And America has more than 46 states. So?

Nota bene: Euros seem to think that Germany is more important than say, California or Texas. Simply put, this is not true.
We're talking about continents here, and we're talking general trends. And this seems to be a growing trend throughout Europe.

to be honest it doesnt matter how fat we europeans get because the WHOLE world knows that americans are the fattest most ugly retarded delinquents of all the nations. So shut yer yap you fat pigs and leave europe out of your fat posts because you slack jawed redneck hillbilly american skum who cant lift themselves up out of bed cos they so fat, shut those gapeing mouths of yours and maybe you'll lose some weight, IT MAY ALSO STOP THE SHIT YOU ALWAYS TALK FROM COMING OUT
Hey I am a California fat ass who can't lift myself out of bed don't you dare call me a hillbilly. I am now offended, I may be fat but I don't skrew family members. You take that back :sniper:

http://www.highlinerschool.com/images/fishsticks.gif

...I like fish sticks! It's lent! :D

...I like fish sticks! It's lent! :D

Here's captain birdseye!

http://www.wythall-ps.fsnet.co.uk/PRINTS%20MONO/captain-birdseye-AF_small.jpg

"In Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Greece, Malta and Slovakia, a higher percentage of men are obese or overweight than the estimated 67 percent of men in the United States, according to a report from the International Obesity Task Force, a coalition of researchers and institutions."

I'm not surprised that Czech Rep. & Slovakia are on the list. Our diets have lots of fat and we drink obscene amounts of beer and alcohol.
Ever been to a real Slovak wedding?? I walked out of the reception 15 hours after the start (early to them, only some octogenarians had left at that point!) and it felt like 3kg heavier...

I can't speak for the other nations, as I've only been to Germany twice and the rest not at all.

(Note: I'm a Slovak ex-pat, though I've lived most of my life in America.)

So the next time some Finn or German on here says something about "fat Americans", I can come back with "lard ass Finns" or "whale-ass Germans".

So the next time some Finn or German on here says something about "fat Americans", I can come back with "lard ass Finns" or "whale-ass Germans".
We better get that out of your system right away:
Yes you can, fat ass. :D

Yes you can, fat ass. :D

The problem is that I'm not fat. At all.

I'm one of those guys who literally "has no ass".

Me neither, but it doesnt matter really. Just enforce the stereotype, you lard ass american.

Edit: forgot the insult.

Me neither, but it doesnt matter really. Just enforce the stereotype.

So, do you fold your layers of fat over yourself to keep warm in the winter?

I used to do that, but now I just tear off a piece of my thighs and light it.

Ghehe. That's the spirit!

I've gotta say, to both the Americans and Europeans in this thread...give it a rest.

People get fat. Is that in any way a reflection on their national heritage? No. It's a reflection of their lifestyle choices. Obesity doesn't affect your intelligence, or your income (well...not really, anyways)...

As a 16-year old Californian living in Bejing, It's pretty easy to see that Fast Food more than anything else is fattening up the world. As American Corporations export McDonalds, KFC, and Pizza Hut to developing nations, it's only natural that obesity figures would start to rise. This is especially obvious in places where the GDP-per-capita has risen sharply, while natural health has remained low. In China, for example, the number of obese people has absolutely exploded, right along with the economic boom.

My point is, don't start calling each other "fat heads" or "lard asses". It just makes you sound like a child. If people are fat, they've gotta get over it themselves; it's not like you need government flyers to tell you that you're overweight. I don't feel that obesity is retricted to any one nation, so making fun of others over such a stupid issue just makes you sound like a moron.

Would you like fries with that?


That is quite possibly the most sinister sentence in the universe. I won't be surprised if history finds it is responsible for the downfall of western civilization. lol

Fat people from the World, Unite!

IT'S ALL NATIONSTATES FAULT! :p

IT'S ALL NATIONSTATES FAULT! :p

Better tell Jolt to batten down the hatches; they're gonna have a load of angry tubby people conducting human wave attacks. :p

It is all nationstates fault for the following: Baldness, STD's, Michael jackson and Captain birdseye.

Would you like fries with that?


That is quite possibly the most sinister sentence in the universe. I won't be surprised if history finds it is responsible for the downfall of western civilization. lol

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/050311/priggee.gif

Yay monoculture!

I'd also like to point out that Euro women are still thinner. And that's what really matters, right? So, women of America: Do your patriotic duty and stick to that anorexia thing, okay? We got to play some catch-up here.

I'm getting rather sick of people (of the US especially) that seem to think that Europe is ONE country. It's not. There are vast differences in life styles and cultures between the nations.

As for the article, It was rather lacking in real statistics. The only nation they actually gave high numbers to is Greece. Having been there and experienced their culinary habits, I can honestly say I'm only surprised this didn't happen sooner. In most non-Mediterranean countries however, the obesity numbers are still low. The article quoted French women to 11.3% obese, compared to 34% in US women.

Just because there are some others that might be fatter than the US, doesn't mean they don't still have problems with obesity.

/rant
And I am geting rather sick of people (of Europe especially) that seem to think that the US is all as one. Its not. There are vast differences in lifestyles and cultures between states

[/rant]
(it works both ways)

I'm an American, and I'm not fat.

So, why is it that some of the Europeans on this forum commonly will say something like "fat Americans", and do their generalization, but when we do the same thing to them, it's wrong?

I think we all need to go down to a restaurant and eat until we puke. Then drink some decent beer (that might mean a trip to Belgium).

We can talk about this after we gain 100 kilos.

21st century European http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/p/Powers_Austin/sq-fat-bastard-goldmember-newl.jpg

21st century European http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/p/Powers_Austin/sq-fat-bastard-goldmember-newl.jpg
Hey stop the flaming (not really that funny and mike meyeres is american I believe)
Dont antagonize ... the comparison and article are fine but dont turn a discussion into an insult fest with people finding pictures of the fattest people they can

Hey stop the flaming (not really that funny and mike meyeres is american I believe)
Dont antagonize ... the comparison and article are fine but dont turn a discussion into an insult fest with people finding pictures of the fattest people they can
You people are the winest bunch of politically correct losers I have ever seen. Nothing is being said that is more than just a little teasing. Get over your overly sensitive pc bullshit and learn to laugh more. I am not targeting any one directly I dont even think their are any fat Europeans on the this Messageboard. Political correctness must Die! :mad:

You guys are too serious I am just messing around. I am just saying to the Europeans what they have been telling us (Americans) for a long time now. Americans have learned to laugh at their obesity epidemic. I guess Europeans are just a little to sensitive to joke with. Its probably a hate crime in Europe to make a fat joke.

But now we'll make jokes about the ADD epidemics that has apparently broken throughout the US of A. ;)

You people are the winest bunch of politically correct losers I have ever seen. Nothing is being said that is more than just a little teasing. Get over your overly sensitive pc bullshit and learn to laugh more. I am not targeting any one directly I dont even think their are any fat Europeans on the this Messageboard. Political correctness must Die! :mad:
This has nothing to do with being PC and EVERYTHING to do with forum rules and ability to argue. Please don’t confuse the two.

You people are the winest bunch of politically correct losers I have ever seen.
Read the forum rules.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288255
It's not PCness, it's rule-following. The rules *are* there for a reason.

Read the forum rules.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288255
It's not PCness, it's rule-following. The rules *are* there for a reason.
:) thanks for backing me up with the rule link :) I got busy at work and could not look it up

Fuck this message board and fuck your rules. I will go somewhere else where I am not forced to be some pc pussywhipped idiot who can't express myself
becuase of overly pussyfied rules. Hope you pussywhipped pc bitches have a nice politically correct life.

Live Free or Die!

Fuck this message board and fuck your rules. I will go somewhere else where I am not forced to be some pc pussywhipped idiot who can't express myself
becuase of overly pussyfied rules. Hope you pussywhipped pc bitches have a nice politically correct life.

Live Free or Die!

Here, you need a fluffle... :fluffle:

Fuck this message board and fuck your rules. I will go somewhere else where I am not forced to be some pc pussywhipped idiot who can't express myself
becuase of overly pussyfied rules. Hope you pussywhipped pc bitches have a nice politically correct life.

Live Free or Die!
Please, go do so then, and stop bothering us.

Here, you need a fluffle... :fluffle:
I think he does too :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Fuck this message board and fuck your rules. I will go somewhere else where I am not forced to be some pc pussywhipped idiot who can't express myself
becuase of overly pussyfied rules. Hope you pussywhipped pc bitches have a nice politically correct life.

Live Free or Die!

I suspect you intended to leave anyway....either that or you're annoyed because no-one reacted to your trolling.

Your activity on here reminds me of the "Evil Clown" character on the Flame Warriors site....the moment anyone says you're flaming, you say it's a joke and accuse them of being too serious and having no sense of humour. :p

Fuck this message board and fuck your rules. I will go somewhere else where I am not forced to be some pc pussywhipped idiot who can't express myself
becuase of overly pussyfied rules. Hope you pussywhipped pc bitches have a nice politically correct life.

Live Free or Die!

See you in two weeks.






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See you in two weeks.
Somehow IF he comes back I doubt his disposition will change ... but maybe he will cool off :)

I guess Europeans are just a little to sensitive to joke with. Its probably a hate crime in Europe to make a fat joke.
It's funny how Americans usually imagine themselves to have vastly more civil rights than Europeans.

i doubt it

It's funny how Americans usually imagine themselves to have vastly more civil rights than Europeans.

That's because in general, they do. My cousin that is still in Slovakia (we're the same age) has more restrictions on what he cannot do than I do.

By the same token, Euros in general have much better social spending programs.

The two seem to be somewhat exclusive. :(

Yeah sure, if you want to compare the USA and Slovakia... :rolleyes:

Trie a Western European country for a change.

Yeah sure, if you want to compare the USA and Slovakia... :rolleyes:

Trie a Western European country for a change.


In the US, anyone can stand on a street corner with a sign that says,

"The Holocaust Was a Lie"

and hand out copies of Mein Kampf.

You can't do that in Germany or France. You have significantly more limitations on the freedom of speech there.

I think it's safe to say I've gained a lot of weight since I was born.

In the US, anyone can stand on a street corner with a sign that says,

"The Holocaust Was a Lie"

and hand out copies of Mein Kampf.

You can't do that in Germany or France. You have significantly more limitations on the freedom of speech there.
By the same token, you're not allowed to express the desire to see your political leaders dead. We are. (Hooray!)

By the same token, you're not allowed to express the desire to see your political leaders dead. We are. (Hooray!)

It depends on which ones. That doesn't apply to all of them.

Watch me be completely unsurprised that Greeks and Germans are fatasses.

Edit: I like the Germans, though. Everyone I've known from Germany is awesome.

In the US, anyone can stand on a street corner with a sign that says,

"The Holocaust Was a Lie"

and hand out copies of Mein Kampf.

You can't do that in Germany or France. You have significantly more limitations on the freedom of speech there.
Ooow, I like it when you get all serious. :p

"We shall keep tollerance, by being less tolerant for people who aren't tolerant."

If I think of 'rights', I think about the right to criticise, debate, be accepted for what you belief...

Not the right to lie, discrimate, kill...

I could bring up the argument "we are more tollerant, because we (EU-countries) don't kill murderers (which is the case in many states)"..., but I don't. ;)

It depends on which ones. That doesn't apply to all of them.
Fair enough, but we don't have to worry even about that. We can wish a plague on all their houses.

I've been holding steady at 84 kg to 185 cm for a good while now, by the way, and I think that's the perfect weight for me, especially considering that I make a habit of walking no less than eight miles every day (specifically, I walk four miles from my house to get some coffee in the early afternoon and walk back a few hours later after having chewed the fat with some other regulars for a time, sometimes stopping by the local seafood place or the Chinese place to grab a bite on the way back).

By the same token, you're not allowed to express the desire to see your political leaders dead. We are. (Hooray!)
*is soooo tempted to poke fun at somebody, but restrains self*

Don't go projecting on me. My weight is in the ideal BMI range, as are most Swedes'. Yes, Swedes, not French. It's written right there under my user name to the left. I have to assume you're from the US because you don't seem to know the difference between Sweden and France and you can't spell your own language (it's neighbor).

But there I go generalizing again. Apologies to all educated rational Americans, who I know to be in majority over there. :fluffle:

That would be 'neighbour', if you're going to be pedantic.

And in addition, 'Europe' is a region of countries united by close cultures, close geography, about the entire human history of integrating populations. I think it's fair to refer to 'Europe' as a whole. And this doesn't surprise me in the least bit, anyways - I see very little different between the people I see in the US and the people I see in Europe, in terms of size.


I'd also like to point out that Euro women are still thinner. And that's what really matters, right? So, women of America: Do your patriotic duty and stick to that anorexia thing, okay? We got to play some catch-up here.

I have no idea what you're talking about here, but I'm just going to try and delve some sense out of it. Skinny women = bad. Women who look like they could survive childbirth = good. Women (And anyone else, actually) who are overweight to the point where it is detrimental to their health = bad. But said weight limit is far above what most people actually think, anyway. I mean, I've had a 'healthy' BMI when my stomach is concave and my ribs are visible.

That's because in general, they do. My cousin that is still in Slovakia (we're the same age) has more restrictions on what he cannot do than I do.
What restrictions has he mentioned?

In America drug freedoms tend to be significantly less than in Europe. It varies from country to country, but there's nowhere in Europe where you can be locked up for the possession of anything other than a very large amount of marajuana. In Europe the legal drinking age varies between 16 (e.g. France, Germany) and 18 (e.g. Ireland, Britain).

In places such as Germany there is much more tolerance for explicity sexual material in the media. Media outlets don't have the American FCC heavily regulating them to ensure that they are sufficiently "moral".

In most of Europe you are not barred from voting after you serve your punishment in prison, and in some places you are even allowed to vote while in prison. It is my understanding that Americans don't have this freedom.


However, in America, extremes of free speech, such as Nazi propaganda (as Whispering Legs mentioned) are better protected than in Europe. Also, Americans tend to have greater gun freedoms (although Finland has even more gun freedom), but this is not something that Europeans want. (It is my position that "gun control" tends to work in Europe but appears not to work in America.)

I could bring up the argument "we are more tollerant, because we (EU-countries) don't kill murderers (which is the case in many states)"..., but I don't. ;)
Don't bring the death penalty into this. That's a human rights issue, not a civil rights issue. And it's not as if people have the freedom to murder here in good ol' Europe.

Don't bring the death penalty into this. That's a human rights issue, not a civil rights issue. And it's not as if people have the freedom to murder here in good ol' Europe.
Now you mention it... I can bring abortion, gay marriages, religion... into this! It would be a summarise of General in a complete wrong thread. :eek:

You know one thing I have not heard one of you talk about is the new web lifestyle we have incorporated into our lives wether it be American Swedish or Romanian. how many off us used to do other things in our free time besides chat, post, play games, & do other non exercise activities in front of our computers. Fast food is part of the problem but that fact that I go to work & sit in front of a computer all day & then spend some of my free time in front of a computer certainly adds to my fat count. Perhaps traveling & meeting people face to face in our work & our play would be more conducive to our health then we think?

It depends on which ones. That doesn't apply to all of them.
I was in a hotel in DC once whre Mayors Govenors & congressmen were staying for the Bush(senior inauguration.) My school was informed not to even say the word bomb in our hotel or we would be arrested. We even had a girl get harassed by a secret service man for just going out to get a bucket of ice. What a security this Homecomming Queen candidate was in her PJ's.

And in addition, 'Europe' is a region of countries united by close cultures, close geography, about the entire human history of integrating populations. I think it's fair to refer to 'Europe' as a whole.


I semi-agree. However, in the context of this discussion I certainly don't. The diet of a typical French person is quite different to that of a typical Finn, German or Russian etc.

Hey tubby you dont have to insult me over a typo its not my fault you live on an obese Continent.

sweden VS france is not a typo its stupido

More sources:
http://www.euobserver.com/?sid=9&aid=18671
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050316/NEWS03/103160063/-1/news

I wonder what the rates are in canada?

you do realize we are fattening up you fat slobs so we can then eat you right?

That explains the book I found in Afghanistan, "How To Serve Westerners"

Point. But even that has gotten better. I don't know how things are in the states, but over here McDonald's has had a "healthy trend" going for a while now, with large (and tasty) sallads, fruit, etc on the menu. And with the latest Happy Meals kids get sporty things like hockey clubs and such. So even the fast food chains can take their responsibility.

cmon, McDs or any other fast food chain like it will never be a healthy alternative to a non-GM, as few preservatives as possible, low in saturated fats, good portions of all major food groups diet.

The entire concept is based on simplicity and convenience, I personally love to cook and mostly cook healthy meals (cept maybe for "Pizza Sunday" :p), but a lot of people just dont have the time or inclination and thus they eat the fast food without realising the danger to their health stemming from the colon because the company touts their product as "healthy".

I read an article in the newspaper that the new healthy fantastic chicken salad or some other such item from McD had as much saturated fat in it as 1.5 cheeseburgers.

Personally I always try and use monosaturated fat when I cook (olive oil) but oh noes, that would be too expensive and the shareholders might have to actually make less profit! :eek:

I'm getting rather sick of people (of the US especially) that seem to think that Europe is ONE country. It's not. There are vast differences in life styles and cultures between the nations.


Perhaps because Europe has become the EU, for the most part?

I don't see many Europeans who recognize the "differences" in the different "Regions" within the U.S., which is a larger land mass than Europe, that have some very diverse cultures...

So perhaps you should practice what you preach. You guys voted to become a "Union" just as the U.S. is a "Union" of States, something about that YOU don't get?

Regards,
Gaar

*is soooo tempted to poke fun at somebody, but restrains self*
What? What I done now? I don't get it! [/whiney voice]

Yeah sure, if you want to compare the USA and Slovakia... :rolleyes:

Trie a Western European country for a change.

Oh, I'm sorry! I didn't realize that Slovakia wasn't in Europe! :upyours:

Fine... All of these things are legal in Connecticut, USA:

I couldn't own my guns in the UK.
I can't play have any Nazi related items in Germany or France (if I wanted them).
Nude sunbathing is illegal in Italy.
Abortion is illegal in Belgium.

Oh, I'm sorry! I didn't realize that Slovakia wasn't in Europe! :upyours:

Fine... All of these things are legal in Connecticut, USA:

I couldn't own my guns in the UK.
I can't play have any Nazi related items in Germany or France (if I wanted them).
Nude sunbathing is illegal in Italy.
Abortion is illegal in Belgium.
Wow, different countries have different laws!

Please tell me more things that arnt relevant.

What restrictions has he mentioned?

In America drug freedoms tend to be significantly less than in Europe. It varies from country to country, but there's nowhere in Europe where you can be locked up for the possession of anything other than a very large amount of marajuana. In Europe the legal drinking age varies between 16 (e.g. France, Germany) and 18 (e.g. Ireland, Britain).

True about drinking, but the driving age in Slovakia is 18.

As for the things he mentioned: the use of secret police against the citizenry has gotten better since Communism, but still exists. The actual police often use excessive force and sometimes excessive holding, and there are no real appeals.
Political parties pull the stings on the tv and radio. Never mind how the gypsies (Roma) are treated.

In places such as Germany there is much more tolerance for explicity sexual material in the media. Media outlets don't have the American FCC heavily regulating them to ensure that they are sufficiently "moral".

The FCC only regulates broadcast stations, and it's liberal in the late evenings. Public Television is not regulated per se.
Cable TV & Satellite are not regulated. 40% of all US homes have cable, at least 10% have satellite.

In most of Europe you are not barred from voting after you serve your punishment in prison, and in some places you are even allowed to vote while in prison. It is my understanding that Americans don't have this freedom.

Sorta. It depends on the state.
You can't vote if you are a: prison inmate (48 states), parolee (33 states) and probationer (29 states) but also a large number of people -- one third of the disenfranchised in all -- who are off parole and "free."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9785-2004Aug17.html

However, in America, extremes of free speech, such as Nazi propaganda (as Whispering Legs mentioned) are better protected than in Europe. Also, Americans tend to have greater gun freedoms (although Finland has even more gun freedom), but this is not something that Europeans want. (It is my position that "gun control" tends to work in Europe but appears not to work in America.)

Yeah, pretty much. (Though New Hampshire and a few other states have just about zero gun laws.)

Perhaps because Europe has become the EU, for the most part?

I don't see many Europeans who recognize the "differences" in the different "Regions" within the U.S., which is a larger land mass than Europe, that have some very diverse cultures...

If you ask any person in Europe as to their nationality, they won’t say European, they will say, British, German, French, Danish, etc etc, I think that proves itself.

So perhaps you should practice what you preach. You guys voted to become a "Union" just as the U.S. is a "Union" of States, something about that YOU don't get?

Regards,
Gaar


Very well, now where to start, where to start?

Now, the European Union is not a Union like the United States, it is more an economic Union than anything else, hardly a full Union of States.

Perhaps you should learn to define the word region. A region can be a physical environment, a concept, or political boundary on a map, all of which Europe has.

The United Kingdom is a part of the European Union, but it has it’s own laws, currency, head of state, Judicial system, unlike the American Union.

The United Kingdom has utterly different culinary attitudes compared to France and likewise for Germany and Italy. And the rest of Europe, keep it in mind the the European Union is no way a ‘Union of States’ but is in fact an integration of laws, in attempt to have our nations work together for the betterment of the world, after all, we don’t want another world war springing up do we?

And before any Yank says it, you did not save us in World war two, you saved yourselves, after all if you didn’t join in, Hitler would have conquered the USA, as he would have developed the A-Bomb first.

And before any Yank says it, you did not save us in World war two, you saved yourselves, after all if you didn’t join in, Hitler would have conquered the USA, as he would have developed the A-Bomb first.Actually, it seems to me more as if the Yanks broke their isolationism in reaction to an attack by the Japs, and, having abandoned isolationism, went over to Europe to protect their economic interests. Also, France and Britain played no small part in creating the monster that Germany became (such anger doesn't arise in a vacuum, after all). To tell you the truth, I have a wholly cynical attitude toward everyone's part in the World Wars. It is one of those things that happen when everyone involved act like selfish cunts (currently interchangeable with "Arabic Muslim").

being one of the super rare non-obese americans i find that disturbing. I mean our gift to the world was McD's and we should have to be the ones paying the price. not Europeans.

abc is full of lies. Besides, there is one America and how many European countries?

I love the way Europe always blames the US for Europeans getting fat, too... As though there was NO CHOICE but to eat at Burker King!

*has a sudden revelation caused by the first few pages of this topic*
Europeans cant handle WRS!
(Thats Worm Reversal Syndrome, in case you didnt know.)

abc is full of lies. Besides, there is one America and how many European countries?

Dude, Texas is another country to me. :D

I could *not* find a decent bagel anywhere. There is no pizza. There are dry countines. Catholic churches? Good luck. What do you mean, "there's no open container law"?

America is not homogenous. It's not as vairied as Europe, but every region is different.

*has a sudden revelation caused by the first few pages of this topic*
Europeans cant handle WRS!
(Thats Worm Reversal Syndrome, in case you didnt know.)

<DING DING DING>

We have a winner!!

<DING DING DING>

We have a winner!!
Handle it, I don't even know wtf it is? :(

I love the way Europe always blames the US for Europeans getting fat, too... As though there was NO CHOICE but to eat at Burker King!

Not blaming the US, just American style fast food.

Of course the individuals are mainly to blame though.

Not blaming the US, just American style fast food.

Of course the individuals are mainly to blame though.

It is all about the individual.
Fast food, alcohol, drugs, cars, guns, etc: nothing is good or bad. Inanimate objects are only used.

So I don't blame alcohol for the lush, smack for addicts, the guns for Columbine, or the SUV for the price of gas... It's all about the choices we make.

It is all about the individual.
Fast food, alcohol, drugs, cars, guns, etc: nothing is good or bad. Inanimate objects are only used.

So I don't blame alcohol for the lush, smack for addicts, the guns for Columbine, or the SUV for the price of gas... It's all about the choices we make.

I understand that. The individual must be responsible for their action (personal responsibility is something I wholeheartedly endorse).

All I was saying that American style fast food is partially (albeit very, very small) to blame since it put the choice there. I'll only say it is fully to blame when they hire soldiers to force people to eat their stuff at gun point.

Perhaps because Europe has become the EU, for the most part?

I don't see many Europeans who recognize the "differences" in the different "Regions" within the U.S., which is a larger land mass than Europe, that have some very diverse cultures...

So perhaps you should practice what you preach. You guys voted to become a "Union" just as the U.S. is a "Union" of States, something about that YOU don't get?

Regards,
Gaar

Unified Sith already answered most of this. I just wanted to add that I DID acknowledge the differences of the different parts of the US, had you bothered to read that far. I also stated that those differences aren't as great as the difference between the nations of Europe.

Also, please stop using the "something about that YOU don't get?" at the end of almost every post you write. It makes you sound like a broken record and/or a twit, as if you somehow know that your arguments are erroneous and you need to back it up with a mindless platitude.

I understand that. The individual must be responsible for their action (personal responsibility is something I wholeheartedly endorse).

All I was saying that American style fast food is partially (albeit very, very small) to blame since it put the choice there. I'll only say it is fully to blame when they hire soldiers to force people to eat their stuff at gun point.

Cool. :cool:

Dude, Texas is another country to me. :D

I could *not* find a decent bagel anywhere. There is no pizza. There are dry countines. Catholic churches? Good luck. What do you mean, "there's no open container law"?

America is not homogenous. It's not as vairied as Europe, but every region is different.
It is still one country, except for Texas, they are a bunch of nutters down there

At least Americans don't consider Speedos' on fat, hairy men at the beach, proper attire.

Gross! (http://childrenwithspecialneeds.com/pecs/pictures/health/throw_up.jpg)

At least Americans don't consider Speedos' on fat, hairy men at the beach, proper attire.

Gross! (http://childrenwithspecialneeds.com/pecs/pictures/health/throw_up.jpg)


Johnny...come join our kazoo thread. YOUD make an excellent addition

Johnny...come join our kazoo thread. YOUD make an excellent addition

What the devil are you talking about? Kazoo? I prefer when people play my skin flute. I digress, feed me some info on this.

Handle it, I don't even know wtf it is? :(
Have you ever heard the phrase, "The worm has turned"?
Refering to the fact that most Americans on the board have basicaly taken this same BS from Europeans since NS started and now there are actually MORE Americans joining General, meaning that the Europeans cant get away with anything now?
Naturaly nuetral people from both sides are excused from my scathing generalizations.

Have you ever heard the phrase, "The worm has turned"?
Refering to the fact that most Americans on the board have basicaly taken this same BS from Europeans since NS started and now there are actually MORE Americans joining General, meaning that the Europeans cant get away with anything now?
Naturaly nuetral people from both sides are excused from my scathing generalizations.

Ahh, gotcha.

Still, many of us (as in individual countries) still have a bit to go before hitting American levels. But all is fair in love and generalisations ;)