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Those Pothead Martyrs, Always Getting Stoned

Vittos Ordination
14-03-2005, 08:28
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1436392,00.html

I was more than prepared to laugh at the individuals on this panel, but considering the vocabulary and general intelligence of today's youth, this might not be a bad idea.
Lupinasia
14-03-2005, 08:32
Wow.

I'm not sure whether to say "Our generation is awful but that won't do anything because we're so far gone" or "How dare they? Do they have no trust in us? No respect for the past?"

And it says something by itself that I cannot decide, right?
German Kingdoms
14-03-2005, 08:34
Political Correctness gone wild! :rolleyes:
Lupinasia
14-03-2005, 08:43
I think Political Correctness is overrated.

Personal rant as an example: Schools that ban Huck Finn because it uses the word '******,' for example. Huck Finn is a piece of historical American literature, which many call classic (though many don't), and in many ways Twain's use of the word '******' is considered ironic. So if Twain probably didn't mean it and we are using the word in class, in reasoned discussions with absolutely no malicious intent or racial slur intended, then shouldn't we be allowed to use the text in class?
German Kingdoms
14-03-2005, 08:44
I never believe in changing the text of the Bible, just to please the Politically correct crowd. If they don't like it, then stop reading it. No one is forcing you to buy The Bible.
Arammanar
14-03-2005, 08:45
I think Political Correctness is overrated.

Personal rant as an example: Schools that ban Huck Finn because it uses the word '******,' for example. Huck Finn is a piece of historical American literature, which many call classic (though many don't), and in many ways Twain's use of the word '******' is considered ironic. So if Twain probably didn't mean it and we are using the word in class, in reasoned discussions with absolutely no malicious intent or racial slur intended, then shouldn't we be allowed to use the text in class?
You should talk to your school's Chairperson of that sort of thing. Excuse me, Chairperchild.
Vittos Ordination
14-03-2005, 08:45
This isn't political correctness.

This is the Church being overly concerned with the aesthetics of their scripture.
Cannot think of a name
14-03-2005, 08:49
Not really political correctness. They aren't trying to protect the feelings of the stoners.
Cannot think of a name
14-03-2005, 08:50
This isn't political correctness.

This is the Church being overly concerned with the aesthetics of their scripture.
Curse your faster repsondingness....









It's a word now...
German Kingdoms
14-03-2005, 08:51
Not really political correctness. They aren't trying to protect the feelings of the stoners.

I'm talking about changing man to person, women to person etc. Also taking "Jews" out of it. I mean comon, its historical fact that the Jews DID persacute Jesus, and they did force the Roman government to kill him. I respect the Jewish faith and I respect Jewish people. This is not anti-semetic, its showing what happen, who did what, and what took place. This is the same thing they said when The Passion came out.
Cannot think of a name
14-03-2005, 08:53
I'm talking about changing man to person, women to person etc. Also taking "Jews" out of it. I mean comon, its historical fact that the Jews DID persacute Jesus, and they did force the Roman government to kill him. I respect the Jewish faith and I respect Jewish people. This is not anti-semetic, its showing what happen, who did what, and what took place. This is the same thing they said when The Passion came out.
Well....okay.....but the article was about changing "stoned" to "stoned to death"...
Vittos Ordination
14-03-2005, 08:53
Curse your faster repsondingness....









It's a word now...

I am the master of faster repsondingness.
Lupinasia
14-03-2005, 08:54
Heaven only knows why I, as an atheist, am replying to this thread. Probably because my school is Episcopalian. But I've studied the Bible in a number of classes, and I have to say: if it's considered the Word of God, why are we revising it for the present generation? The Bible is the Holy Book for much of the world, and as such it should remain as inviolate as is possible with a translated text. Altering words based on possible misunderstandings or misinterpretation is a pointless way of trying to prevent something that would be easily prevented anyway if someone just took the time to explain to children what 'stoned to death' means. At least that way you are not infringing upon a sacred text's historical accuracy more than absolutely necessary.
German Kingdoms
14-03-2005, 08:54
Well....okay.....but the article was about changing "stoned" to "stoned to death"...

Well thats just idiotic.

I mean a phrase that says "They stoned X person to death", and they think that they were getting so high that the person died? Jeez.
Cannot think of a name
14-03-2005, 08:56
I am the master of faster repsondingness.
Dare you say "Evil Ninja Master," or even "Secret Egyptian Master"....?
Vittos Ordination
14-03-2005, 08:57
I cleared a bong once and coughed so long that I thought that I had gotten stoned to death. True story. It isn't in the Bible, though. Maybe the Quran, I haven't read it.
Cannot think of a name
14-03-2005, 09:02
I cleared a bong once and coughed so long that I thought that I had gotten stoned to death. True story. It isn't in the Bible, though. Maybe the Quran, I haven't read it.
First time I used a gravity bong I felt I might have stoned myself to death.
Domici
14-03-2005, 09:02
I never believe in changing the text of the Bible, just to please the Politically correct crowd. If they don't like it, then stop reading it. No one is forcing you to buy The Bible.

That's right. I say if you can't read it in the original Aramaic, Greek, or Latin then you shouldn't be reading it. In fact, why are you a Christian. You should go to hell with the rest of Jehovah's unchosen.
Dohnut
14-03-2005, 09:02
Heaven only knows why I, as an atheist, am replying to this thread. Probably because my school is Episcopalian. But I've studied the Bible in a number of classes, and I have to say: if it's considered the Word of God, why are we revising it for the present generation? The Bible is the Holy Book for much of the world, and as such it should remain as inviolate as is possible with a translated text. Altering words based on possible misunderstandings or misinterpretation is a pointless way of trying to prevent something that would be easily prevented anyway if someone just took the time to explain to children what 'stoned to death' means. At least that way you are not infringing upon a sacred text's historical accuracy more than absolutely necessary.

But the bible has already BEEN altered. By translating from hebrew and latin into English. These are not translations that come easy, and there are bound to be problems, words that dont convey the right meaning unless you know the original language. Clarification is a good idea, but i still stand against the political coreectness alterations. There just silly.

Edit: Cant remember the exact languages. Just put them in if you know.
Domici
14-03-2005, 09:04
I cleared a bong once and coughed so long that I thought that I had gotten stoned to death. True story. It isn't in the Bible, though. Maybe the Quran, I haven't read it.

Ya, the only entry on marijuana in the Bible is in Genesis. "Behold, I give thou every herb bearing seed."

If you've ever gotten a bag of herb, you know it bears an annoying amount of seeds. Unless it's such primo shit that they don't want you growing your own, and then God clearly disapproves. If he wanted weed to be that good he'd have made it that way in the first place.
German Kingdoms
14-03-2005, 09:05
That's right. I say if you can't read it in the original Aramaic, Greek, or Latin then you shouldn't be reading it. In fact, why are you a Christian. You should go to hell with the rest of Jehovah's unchosen.

I actually think the KJV is very close to Aramaic, Greek, and Latin verison of the Bible.
Kanabia
14-03-2005, 09:06
So, let me get the gist of this.

If I sleep with someone else's wife, I am rewarded by being stoned to death?

That's some pretty warped morality. :D
Vittos Ordination
14-03-2005, 09:08
First time I used a gravity bong I felt I might have stoned myself to death.

I have never had the joy of using a gravity bong, but from descriptions I hear, your harrowing retelling is probably true.
Ootersland
14-03-2005, 09:11
I mean comon, its historical fact that the Jews DID persacute Jesus, and they did force the Roman government to kill him.

Actually, there is no real evidence that Jesus did infact exist.
Cannot think of a name
14-03-2005, 09:11
I have never had the joy of using a gravity bong, but from descriptions I hear, your harrowing retelling is probably true.
I totally recomend it at least once.
Vittos Ordination
14-03-2005, 09:13
If you've ever gotten a bag of herb, you know it bears an annoying amount of seeds. Unless it's such primo shit that they don't want you growing your own, and then God clearly disapproves. If he wanted weed to be that good he'd have made it that way in the first place.

I generally don't get seeds in the shit I smoke.

My roommate and I did go through a period where all we could get were bags of cheap shwag, like $30 a quarter. Those bags were always at least one-third seeds.
Vittos Ordination
14-03-2005, 09:14
I totally recomend it at least once.

When you do one, are you talking about using a 2 liter bottle, or what?
Cannot think of a name
14-03-2005, 09:17
When you do one, are you talking about using a 2 liter bottle, or what?
The first time it was a 2-liter in a tub of water. Actually dropped me to my knee.

I eventually made one for home use out of a 2-liter and a 1-liter and another I never used made out of a 1-liter and 20-ounce.

Then my tolerance went crazy high and I was burning through sticky norcal stuff like it was swag.

So I went back to trusty old glass.

But now and then, its pretty cool.
Anarchic Conceptions
14-03-2005, 09:26
An old joke admittedly:

The new priest at his first mass was so afraid, he could hardly
talk. Before his second week at the pulpit, he asked the monsignor how
he could relax. The monsignor said, next week, it might help if you put
martinis in your water pitcher. The next week the young priest put his
elder's suggestion into practice and really talked up a storm. After
the sermon, he asked the monsignor how he did. The monsignor replied,
"Fine, but there are a few things you should learn before you address
the congregation again."

1. Next time, sip the martinis rather than downing them glassful by
glassful.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. David slew Golaith, he didn't "Kick the shit out of him."
5. We do not refer to Our Saviour, Jesus Christ, and his disciples
as J.C. and the boys.
6. Next Sunday there is a taffy pulling contest at St. Peters, not
a Peter pulling contest at St. Taffys.
7. We do not refer to the Cross as "The Big T."
8. The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost are not referred to as,
"Daddy, Junior and Spook."
9. Please! It is the Virgin Mary, not Mary with the cherry.
10. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
11. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
12. When Joseph was hit by a rock and knocked off his donkey,
don't say he was "stoned off his ass."
13. And last but not least, when you leave the altar, walk down
the steps, don't slide down the rail.
Enlightened Humanity
14-03-2005, 09:27
I actually think the KJV is very close to Aramaic, Greek, and Latin verison of the Bible.

It's really not. I've looked at various translations. Really, to understand it well, you need to know the Greek and Aramaic.