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Wow, this is weird...

Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:10
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.
Jamil
14-03-2005, 01:11
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.
These people would get shot up here.
Neo-Anarchists
14-03-2005, 01:11
I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.
Neither do I...
:(
Zotona
14-03-2005, 01:13
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.
That is disgusting. :mad:
The Mindset
14-03-2005, 01:13
Some people are just idiots.
Arribastan
14-03-2005, 01:14
There are a lot of fucked-up people like that out there. Unfortunately, you can't do anything about it.
Callisdrun
14-03-2005, 01:19
What a bunch of backwards bigots.
JuNii
14-03-2005, 01:20
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.report it in... Housing Discrimination is against the law. report them in and have the investigators take over.
Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:21
report it in... Housing Discrimination is against the law. report them in and have the investigators take over.

I told my parents to do EXACTLY the same thing, but they just told me to let it go.
Jamil
14-03-2005, 01:23
I told my parents to do EXACTLY the same thing, but they just told me to let it go.
Your parents are cool.
Nadkor
14-03-2005, 01:24
I told my parents to do EXACTLY the same thing, but they just told me to let it go.
just ask them how it will ever change if they dont do something about it
Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:26
just ask them how it will ever change if they dont do something about it

Good point. Very very good point.
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:27
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.


I would've beaten the living shit out of those idiots. That's just disgusting.
Jamil
14-03-2005, 01:30
I would've beaten the living shit out of those idiots. That's just disgusting.
Kind of like what I said, these guys would've gotten shot here.
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:33
Kind of like what I said, these guys would've gotten shot here.


Shooting is probably a bit out of hand, but beating the living shit out of them is just fine.
I_Hate_Cows
14-03-2005, 01:37
You should have applied some ass kicking
The Naro Alen
14-03-2005, 01:38
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.

That's where you start speaking to them about the latest book you've read, or something you have in common, and show proper manners, and prove to them that their biases are baseless.

Beating the shit out of them will only affect the most thick-headed. It makes everyone else scared rather than accepting. Even if it feels good at the time.

:headbang: :rolleyes:
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:39
But, you must admit, beating the shit out of two dickheads like that would feel quite good.
Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:41
I don't think talking to them would do any good, nor would fighting. I was waaay wayyyy too shocked at the time to even feel anger, but if I were in the state of mind that I'm in right now I would have been stompin on some throats.
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:43
I don't think talking to them would do any good, nor would fighting. I was waaay wayyyy too shocked at the time to even feel anger, but if I were in the state of mind that I'm in right now I would have been stompin on some throats.


I'dve liked to be there with you. I'd have thrown a basket at one of them, that's for sure.
Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:44
I'dve liked to be there with you. I'd have thrown a basket at one of them, that's for sure.

lol, seems like you are more upset than me. I'd probably have to stop you from killing them.
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:45
I like to kick the bastards when they're down. It shows them how much I disrespect them. I've had to do that to my brother, who's three years older than me. He hasn't touched me since.
Lries
14-03-2005, 01:47
They're f-cking idiots, and unfortunately, all you can do is ignore them.

Oh, and $4000 for an apartment! Wait, is it some sort of lease or what?
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:48
Ignore them? Look, If I was there, just like I said earlier, they'dve had one hell of a time. Well, really, I would have, because they'd be on the floor.
Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:51
They're f-cking idiots, and unfortunately, all you can do is ignore them.

Oh, and $4000 for an apartment! Wait, is it some sort of lease or what?

It's actually more like a condominium, a really REALLY cheap one. We were going to invest in one and rent it out.
Lries
14-03-2005, 01:52
Ignore them? Look, If I was there, just like I said earlier, they'dve had one hell of a time. Well, really, I would have, because they'd be on the floor.
Well, I have some pacifist tendencies. ;)

Whenever someone makes racist comments around me (I'm brown), I try to ignore them. The most I'd do is make a sarcastic remark as I pass them, since I do sarcasm well.
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:53
That sounds good, but I generally like to be the shit out of assholes like that. It's sort of my thing, you know.
Hunter123
14-03-2005, 01:54
how old are these guys??
Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:55
I try NOT to use violence. I've been training in Kali since I was 5, so I could seriously hurt somebody. I don't want to hurt people, I'm just not that kind of person. I'm actually very nice, and I take a lot of crap. Maybe I shouldn't take so much crap?
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:57
You probably shouldn't, but being able to take a lot of crap is pretty admirable.

I do tend to take a lot of crap (especially from my dad), but we all need to vent somehow, and beating the shit out of racists would be the best way to do it.
Kejott
14-03-2005, 01:57
how old are these guys??

I would say that they were in their mid 40's.
Potaria
14-03-2005, 01:58
I would say that they were in their mid 40's.


That would've been no sweat.
Hunter123
14-03-2005, 01:59
mid 40's, i could sort of understand if they were 80 - 90, but still it's worng, but mid 40's, they definatly need sorting
Unaha-Closp
14-03-2005, 02:23
I try NOT to use violence. I've been training in Kali since I was 5, so I could seriously hurt somebody. I don't want to hurt people, I'm just not that kind of person. I'm actually very nice, and I take a lot of crap. Maybe I shouldn't take so much crap?

Keep taking the crap. Beating up somebody is stupid. What happens if that someone holds a grudge and a shotgun a few weeks later?
Neo-Tommunism
14-03-2005, 02:27
Racism sucks. I used to be called mulatto when I was younger, and both my parents are white. I usually just ignore people like that, or treat them like the shits they are. For some reason, they really don't like to be treated inferior.
Uzb3kistan
14-03-2005, 04:37
Did they have southern accents?

Did you get a look at them? If so, did they happen to to be wearing John Deer hats, and Confederate Flag sleevless shirts on?

Ugh, believe it or not: I live in the north, in Columbus, Ohio; and there are roughly 4 or 5 people in my class that are just like that. One of them has a "****** hunting licence", that he said he got when going hunting "down south". Those people are some of the most ignorant/stupid people I've seen in my life.
Kervoskia
14-03-2005, 04:43
*sighs* People are so ignorant, racism is stupid and serves no purpose. Report them to the housing authorities, or whatever it is, immeadeiately.
Katganistan
14-03-2005, 04:44
There are a lot of fucked-up people like that out there. Unfortunately, you can't do anything about it.

You can. It's called a lawsuit, in the case of the apartment complex.
Nation of Fortune
14-03-2005, 04:48
I'm horrible with emotions. I know I should feel touched by your story but I don't. I feel nothing more than an empty void. I'm more saddened by my lack of emotions than I am your apparent situation. I guess I am beginning to lose my emotions again. Thanks for making me realize this.


I should probably clarify that I don't agree with those people, and I think they are dumb, I just don't feel for you. I don't really feel anything not even for myself.
Kervoskia
14-03-2005, 04:50
I'm horrible with emotions. I know I should feel touched by your story but I don't. I feel nothing more than an empty void. I'm more saddened by my lack of emotions than I am your apparent situation. I guess I am beginning to lose my emotions again. Thanks for making me realize this.


I should probably clarify that I don't agree with those people, and I think they are dumb, I just don't feel for you. I don't really feel anything not even for myself.
Extreme apathy perhaps?
Nation of Fortune
14-03-2005, 04:51
Extreme apathy perhaps?
yeah, I could tell why I'm extremly apathetic but I'm sure no one here cares why.
Kervoskia
14-03-2005, 04:53
yeah, I could tell why I'm extremly apathetic but I'm sure no one here cares why.
That sounds more like depression.
P.S.Sorry for being off topic.
Nation of Fortune
14-03-2005, 04:55
That sounds more like depression.
P.S.Sorry for being off topic.
I'm not depressed, I'm actually quite happy, I just don't care. I've gone through many tests for depression so I know I'm not depressed.
Callisdrun
14-03-2005, 05:47
Nation of Fortune: What do you think is the cause of this apathy?

everybody else: I honestly can't believe such primitive ideas as those exhibited by those bigots are still so widespread. Quite alarming.
Nation of Fortune
14-03-2005, 06:01
Nation of Fortune: What do you think is the cause of this apathy?
When I was about 12 (6 years ago), my mother and I started dissagreeing on a lot of things. Right about that time my aunt died of breast cancer, something my mom had contracted 3 years prior, and came out of. She got a bad case of PTSD and started taking everything out on me. Eventually because I was so out of line, according to her, I was beaten, choked, verbally abused, had all of my rights restricted for nothing, the whole nine yards. Eventually it got so bad she proclaimed she hated me and wished I was never born. A week later I found out that my mother had problems and had problems with fertility. I found that my older sister had a surrogate mother, my aunt. I found that my father was also a huge advocate of condoms. So on top of being a small chance of getting fertalized to begin with, my fater was using a condom, slimming that chance even more. I was 16 at the time. I had already closed most of my emotions off, and the ones that really showed were hatred, but this threw me over the line and I shut off all emotions. Ever since then I have not cared about anything, until I recently met a person I actually feel something for. I met her and stayed closed for a bit, but then I opened up to her, and found out she was in a similar situation with her father, although he never beat her. She had also closed off most of her emotions to other people, and we are apparently the more open with each other then any body else.

now for my part I have only hit the tip of the iceburg of the problems with my mother, for her part, thats about all the more I am wiling to tell.
Potaria
14-03-2005, 06:07
Did they have southern accents?

Did you get a look at them? If so, did they happen to to be wearing John Deer hats, and Confederate Flag sleevless shirts on?

Ugh, believe it or not: I live in the north, in Columbus, Ohio; and there are roughly 4 or 5 people in my class that are just like that. One of them has a "****** hunting licence", that he said he got when going hunting "down south". Those people are some of the most ignorant/stupid people I've seen in my life.


I'd love to go up to Columbus and beat the shit outta those guys.
Nation of Fortune
14-03-2005, 06:07
I forgot to mention, this is important, that my mother told me she wished I was never born with a perfectly straight face and calm voice, thats stuck with me ever since.
Callisdrun
14-03-2005, 06:08
Damn. I can see why you would close yourself off, after all that. I wouldn't want to be able to feel anything, either.

Sorry about the thread hijacking, everyone, but the question needed to be asked.
Ut-Jor
14-03-2005, 06:08
I'm curious about where you live, Kejott. I consider myself to live in a fairly rural, southern, and potentially racist area (Western North Carolina) and to my happy surprise, I've encountered almost no racism. The only racism I've seen even near here was actually in Charlotte, a very urban and modern area. Most of the racism I saw there was directed at the growing Latino population.

I guess really, though, location doesn't matter. There's asses everywhere.
Nation of Fortune
14-03-2005, 06:17
Yes, and this general apathy has hurt me harshly. It being my senior year in High school, I don't care about my future, which is a bad thing. I'm a smart student*, I just don't care. I know I should be applying myslef so I can do well in the future, but I don't care about that, I actually wonder what it would be like to get shot, and what it would be like to die, and if you've ever talked with me about sucide you would know I would never commit it. I see suicide as weak, and I figure that with all I've been through I might as well be as strong as possible.



(*This has been said by all of my teachers and alot of other students, even ones that hate me, so it's not just me with a big head.)
Callisdrun
14-03-2005, 07:04
That's really too bad. I don't really have any advice for you, since I've never been in your place. What your mom said was one of the most horrible things I've ever heard of anyone saying to a kid.

You're still friends with this person you mentioned, that you could open up to a bit, I hope?
Kejott
14-03-2005, 07:36
I'm curious about where you live, Kejott. I consider myself to live in a fairly rural, southern, and potentially racist area (Western North Carolina) and to my happy surprise, I've encountered almost no racism. The only racism I've seen even near here was actually in Charlotte, a very urban and modern area. Most of the racism I saw there was directed at the growing Latino population.

I guess really, though, location doesn't matter. There's asses everywhere.

I live in Miami, Florida. Considering this is one of the most racially diverse cities in the US, I'm suprised it even occurred.
Preebles
14-03-2005, 07:41
I live in Miami, Florida. Considering this is one of the most racially diverse cities in the US, I'm suprised it even occurred.

*sigh*

Racism is so bloody STUPID and futile! Ugh! :mad: I'm getting angry just thinking about it! Imaine how much better the world would be, how much more progress we'd make if we could leave this shit behind?
Ariawyn
14-03-2005, 07:53
OMG!

I'm from a multiracial background as well (Scottish/AngloIndian) and I can't believe that!

I'm absolutely appalled that there are still people around who are that small minded and shallow. I truly pity them, because they don't see what a beautiful world we live in. :(
Nation of Fortune
14-03-2005, 08:24
You're still friends with this person you mentioned, that you could open up to a bit, I hope?
Yes, very close friends, last week was her Birth day and I took her to the beach.
Arammanar
14-03-2005, 08:26
I'd love to go up to Columbus and beat the shit outta those guys.
And then be an offender in action rather than merely words and thought? Way to make a problem worse, moron.
Liesurlann
14-03-2005, 08:45
Well, there are idiots in the world. And honestly, I have never heard anything that bad in my life, and I live in Mississippi, and we had one of the worst reps for racism... so at least the racist are dying out, even if a few are still arround.
Honey Badgers
14-03-2005, 16:13
I forgot to mention, this is important, that my mother told me she wished I was never born with a perfectly straight face and calm voice, thats stuck with me ever since.

My mother told me about the same thing during an argument when I was 15, she said I was a "nothing but a failed abortion". I wasn't very surprised, since I knew that I arrived at an inconvenient time and my parents had had to get married because of me. I was terribly hurt, of course, and I moved away from home and never really managed to talk much to my mother after that.

15 years later she suddenly told me that at the time she was expecting me, my father's stepfather had offered to arrange for an abortion, but she had refused. I was so happy, it was such a relief I burst into tears. All those years I had thought she didn't want me, and all this sorrow had been a complete waste of time!

I think maybe you should ask her what she meant. Maybe she said it in a moment's anger and didn't realize what effect it had on you. Maybe you can save yourself from a lot of pain. At least you don't have anything to lose by asking.

Good luck whatever you do, Fortune, I feel for you.
Ryes
14-03-2005, 16:38
I would suggest you and your family move back to Africa...
Sinuhue
14-03-2005, 16:43
As you get older, you tend to be more aware of racism than you were as a child. I my case (half Native, half Irish), people tended to not focus their racism on me as a kid, but felt fine about doing it once I was an adult. It IS shocking when it's not something you've experienced a lot, and have been raised with the belief that this sort of thing is no longer acceptable. Well, it isn't really, but that doesn't mean that people don't go around with such disgusting thoughts on their tongues...

You'll never change these people's minds...nor should you put the effort in to do so. That isn't your job. Your job is to live your life, as you are, with no apologies for your race. Don't let these sorts of attitudes bring you down, but ALWAYS let them shock you, because you need to be aware of them, and you need to prepare any children you may have for them. The people that you will surround yourself with will find these beliefs just as repugnant as you, and in the end, who matters more? Your loved ones, or some bigot in a grocery store?
Sinuhue
14-03-2005, 16:44
I would suggest you and your family move back to Africa...
Sarcasm or not (and it's awfully hard to tell), that comment was COMPLETELY inappropriate. It's like saying, "Go back to where your immigrant forefathers came from, because unless you're native, you don't 'belong' here either".

Bah to racists.
Kanabia
14-03-2005, 16:45
I would suggest you and your family move back to Africa...

Please tell me you're joking...
Aeruillin
14-03-2005, 16:49
The alternative that he's serious ís far easier to bear. I have less of a trouble with the fact that some are stupid enough to believe it than I would with the fact that some are stupid enough to make jokes about it.
Nikoko
14-03-2005, 16:57
As the official anti-racist troll of these forums, I feel it is my duty to report there is a 50/50 chance of Ryes being serious.

While he U.N. endorsements appear to be legit, easy going democratic socialists and company.

His nation is killing immigrants as they cross the border in the T.V. show, "Who wants to be an immigrant?"

Therefor, I shall now uber troll.

Dear Ryes, You sir, are an immigrant in the United States of America, unless you are of Native American descent, please return back to Europe promptly.

Thankyou,

Nikoko.
Ryes
14-03-2005, 16:57
Had Lincoln not been assassinated, he was planning to ship all the nation's blacks back to Africa... Had this occured, however, they would still be dancing around tribal bonfires wearing paint, and in general living like animals. Think about that the next time you want to bitch and moan about racism and white oppression.
Nikoko
14-03-2005, 17:02
Dear Ryes,

I, a descendant of the Greeks and Romans, please ask you to return the following technological advances you recieved from my ancestors.

Road building, organized military formations, large government, plumbing and athletic excellence.

Otherwise, you'd still be freezing your balls off in Britain, or living as a Barbarian in Germania.

Again, please return to Europe, where you belong.

Sincerely,

Nikoko.
CSW
14-03-2005, 17:02
Had Lincoln not been assassinated, he was planning to ship all the nation's blacks back to Africa... Had this occured, however, they would still be dancing around tribal bonfires wearing paint, and in general living like animals. Think about that the next time you want to bitch and moan about racism and white oppression.
Uhuh.
Kroblexskij
14-03-2005, 17:06
These people would get shot up here.
i would gladly shoot any racist
Sinuhue
14-03-2005, 17:20
i would gladly shoot any racist
"There are causes worth dying for, but none worth killing for." -Albert Camus, seconded by Sinuhue.
Greedy Pig
14-03-2005, 17:47
Puts up sign board

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Nikoko
14-03-2005, 18:00
Which troll, me or him? :)
Teh Cameron Clan
14-03-2005, 18:25
"There are causes worth dying for, but none worth killing for." -Albert Camus, seconded by Sinuhue.
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper:
Lries
14-03-2005, 18:38
Dear Ryes,

I, a descendant of the Greeks and Romans, please ask you to return the following technological advances you recieved from my ancestors.

Road building, organized military formations, large government, plumbing and athletic excellence.

Otherwise, you'd still be freezing your balls off in Britain, or living as a Barbarian in Germania.

Again, please return to Europe, where you belong.

Sincerely,

Nikoko.
Yeah, and as a descendant of the East Indians and Persians, you won't have erm, the number zero. And elephant warriors. ;)
Greedy Pig
14-03-2005, 18:47
Which troll, me or him? :)

Nah. Your funny.

The Troll is Ryes for trying to be racist to tick people off.
Naturality
14-03-2005, 20:25
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.

The way that is worded doesn't even sound like something someone would say. If some white guys are using the word ****** then obviously they don't care who hears them and if they are talking about white girls going with them you better believe "****** lover" will be in that conversation somewhere.
Sinuhue
14-03-2005, 20:29
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper:
Brat.
Zotona
14-03-2005, 20:31
Yeah, and as a descendant of the East Indians and Persians, you won't have erm, the number zero. And elephant warriors. ;)
Actually, I believe the Ancient Egyptians invented the number zero AND implemented it in mathematics.
Kejott
15-03-2005, 03:03
I would suggest you and your family move back to Africa...

Excuse me? Why should we move when it was most likely your ancestor's motherfucking asses who brought ours here. So fuck you, you dumbass useless sack of human shit. Go die so someone of actual importance can utilize the resources you waste on a daily basis you fucking filthy animal.

If this has offended anybody who is not racist I am truly sorry, however to the fuckbag Ryes, fuck you.
The Doors Corporation
15-03-2005, 03:31
Excuse me? Why should we move when it was most likely your ancestor's motherfucking asses who brought ours here. So fuck you, you dumbass useless sack of human shit. Go die so someone of actual importance can utilize the resources you waste on a daily basis you fucking filthy animal.

If this has offended anybody who is not racist I am truly sorry, however to the fuckbag Ryes, fuck you.

Dude, you just fed the troll :o !!

Ok so I am Puerto Rican people, thats right Puerto Rican, and damn proud of it. I have never been at the brunt of open racism. But since I live in Alaska...uh yah that is another discussion. I am the brunt of passive racism. Many of my friends don't even know it, but when they joke about me not being "black enough" or the "token black man" even "oreo, he's black on the outside, but white on the inside!" that gets the gold star for racism. Fortunately these friends are close enough to me that they do not do it often and stfu when I tell them to. Unfortunately, what they say/do just proves that racism seems to tag along no matter what.


Now with Kej's situation, I would not beat the crap out of them, I would not get into a discussion with them. Instead I would put myself in a vulnerable position to them, whether verbally or physically, and when they try and hurt me I would tear them down (again either in a verbal debate/discussion, or in a complete fist fight). See, if you "beat the shit" out of racists right off the bat, that just concretes their beliefs even more. And if you try to debate or discuss with them in the hope you will change their mind, that will not work either. Instead allow them to begin the discussion and when they finally think they got you, take them down.


Now with the resident troll in this thread, he is spewing ignorance and is great example of unintelligence. You see just because you act like a car, sound like a car, smell like one, and mimic one does not make you a car. Just because you act like an animal does not make you an animal. The Africans were/are not animals, they adapted (not evolved) to their environment. Its as simple as that. Now with the paint, the dances around the fire, and other interesting cultural topics like those; well that is their culture, it all came from something and somewhere.

See, just because you act like a barbarian troll written about in so much fantasy fiction, and just because you act as ignorant and foolish as one, does not make you an actual troll.

Oh crap! I just fed the troll!
The Doors Corporation
15-03-2005, 04:48
b- y -u -mping

because I think this is a pretty interesting topic
The Go club
15-03-2005, 04:52
I would suggest you and your family move back to Africa...
That is SHOCKING! How dare you use such an obvious troll! May you use much more subtle ones in the future, otherwise it gets boring! Trolling is art form, and elegence is always the key.
Frisbeeteria
15-03-2005, 06:01
I would suggest you and your family move back to Africa...Had Lincoln not been assassinated, he was planning to ship all the nation's blacks back to Africa... Had this occured, however, they would still be dancing around tribal bonfires wearing paint, and in general living like animals. Think about that the next time you want to bitch and moan about racism and white oppression.Ryes, enough with the trolling. If you have a point to make, back it up with facts. If you don't, don't post.
Excuse me? Why should we move when it was most likely your ancestor's motherfucking asses who brought ours here. So fuck you, you dumbass useless sack of human shit. Go die so someone of actual importance can utilize the resources you waste on a daily basis you fucking filthy animal.

If this has offended anybody who is not racist I am truly sorry, however to the fuckbag Ryes, fuck you.Kejott, you are officially warned for flaming. Site rules allow everyone to express their own opinion as long as they don't cross clearly defined lines. You crossed that line big time.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team
Lries
15-03-2005, 06:04
Actually, I believe the Ancient Egyptians invented the number zero AND implemented it in mathematics.
Har Har*! :D

The first decimal zero was introduced by Indian mathematicians about 300. The first independent use of zero as a numeral is attributed to them. An early use of the zero by Brahmagupta dates to 628. He treated zero as a number and discussed operations involving this number. By this time (7th century) the concept had reached Cambodia, and it later spread to China and the Islamic world, from where it reached Europe in the 12th century.



*Yeah, the Babylonians invented a symbol for the zero, but dammit, my ancestors used it in math and treated it as a number first!
Bleezdale
15-03-2005, 06:08
Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day.


Well, he was right... cept it's foul people like him that are doing the corrupting.
Kejott
15-03-2005, 06:16
Ryes, enough with the trolling. If you have a point to make, back it up with facts. If you don't, don't post.
Kejott, you are officially warned for flaming. Site rules allow everyone to express their own opinion as long as they don't cross clearly defined lines. You crossed that line big time.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team

Well aren't you just too kind, I shall cherish this warning for the rest of my life. Oh by the way, you need to warn Ryes not me. Anyone who has views of that nature does NOT deserve to post here, ever. :upyours:
Frisbeeteria
15-03-2005, 06:31
Anyone who has views of that nature does NOT deserve to post here, ever. :upyours:
Last time I looked, that was Max Barry's decision, not yours. And he and [violet] explicitly allows racist opinions to be posted uncensored, along with all other views and counterpoints. If that's a problem for you, you might want to post elsewhere. Another outburst like that last one, and you won't have a choice in the matter.

You might also take a moment to realize that everyone else in the thread recoginzed and discounted the trollish nature of Ryes' posts. You could stand to take a lesson or two in restraint from your fellow posters.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team
Kejott
15-03-2005, 06:43
Last time I looked, that was Max Barry's decision, not yours. And he and [violet] explicitly allows racist opinions to be posted uncensored, along with all other views and counterpoints. If that's a problem for you, you might want to post elsewhere. Another outburst like that last one, and you won't have a choice in the matter.

You might also take a moment to realize that everyone else in the thread recoginzed and discounted the trollish nature of Ryes' posts. You could stand to take a lesson or two in restraint from your fellow posters.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team

Let's see how fast I were to get banned if I went around posting "White People Suck". Now I don't believe in that nonsense, however I would be banned fairly quickly wouldn't I? Now as for restraint, yes I shouldn't have said that but hey he deserved it. Now I'm sure you are a logical intelligent person, but this whole situation seems a bit flipped around.

I just don't understand why anybody would allow ignorance of that magnitude on a board such as this, however I will accept the fact that it is allowed, but don't think you can intimidate me. I will continue to say what is on my mind and "you don't have a choice on that matter".
Loki1
15-03-2005, 06:43
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.
if the quote about the apartments is true, and if you live in the U.s. what the salesperson did was illegal, and your parents should go to the fair housing and report the incident.....
Greater Somalia
15-03-2005, 06:55
Yes, this isn't 1950's, it's 2005 and those racist people do understand the time difference and I love it when they see a rich black guy all in the TV, shopping malls, next door neighbours, dating their daughters (hah). If racist people always keep on moving away once a minority moves into the community, where the hell else are they gonna move to in America!!!
The Doors Corporation
15-03-2005, 07:02
The mod is right Kejott, you could have shown more discretion, but whatever. Anyhow, i consider blacks more genetically advanced that whites ;) heh its just how I interpret the scientific data.
Lashie
15-03-2005, 07:48
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.

Yes well some people are idiots... personally if i heard anyone saying anything like that i would walk over to them and have an interesting argument but i have no way of explaining why people are that cruel, stupid, idiotic etc
Occidio Multus
15-03-2005, 10:46
It's been very interesting lately. I'm 16 turning 17 in 6 days and there's been some "things" occuring lately that I've never really observed before. I have a multiracial background (African American/Caucasion). In the 16 years of my life I have never encountered blatant or highly noticable racism, until a few days ago.

My wonderful tale starts in the grocery store and I hear two gentlemen discussing something very shocking. The conversation went a something like this:

Guy 1: I can't stand it when they advertise products with niggers in the commercials.

Guy 2: Yeah, I don't even allow ****** food in my house.

Guy 1: America is getting more corrupt every day, especially our women. The women who have abominations with those niggers are low.

I was SO shocked, I wasn't offended at the moment because I was in a state of disbelief at what I had just heard. A few days later my parents called a luxury apartment sales office in order to get pricing on one of the units. The price given on the unit was approximately $2,500. When they arrived to meet the salesperson, she was suprised at their skin color (she showed apparent suprise and disgust on her face) and "magically" raised the price to $4,000. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some people, but this is 2005 not 1950.
it happens. i am the same mix as you. i f i was in the grocery store- i would have tapped one of those guys on the shoulder and told them i was a mulatto wench for sale. would they pay thirty dollars to fuck me? because i know thats why they hate blacks- they just wonder what the girls are like in bed.
i honestly would have done this.
Kejott
15-03-2005, 11:11
it happens. i am the same mix as you. i f i was in the grocery store- i would have tapped one of those guys on the shoulder and told them i was a mulatto wench for sale. would they pay thirty dollars to fuck me? because i know thats why they hate blacks- they just wonder what the girls are like in bed.
i honestly would have done this.

You need to be askin ME if I'll pay! Don't waste that question on them! :p
I'm juuust kidding...I wouldn't pay anything! I'd do it for free! :p
But seriously, I think you are correct. Jealousy.
New Sancrosanctia
15-03-2005, 15:27
it happens. i am the same mix as you. i f i was in the grocery store- i would have tapped one of those guys on the shoulder and told them i was a mulatto wench for sale. would they pay thirty dollars to fuck me? because i know thats why they hate blacks-they just wonder what the girls are like in bed.
i honestly would have done this.
Fun. There's a hip thing that i only know maybe three white girls who're capable of doing (it's a dancing thing) and only one of those would actually think to bring it into the bedroom. That hip thing is damn intense, i tell you what. She did it this one time, i couldn't actually turn my head for a week.

But yeah. You still should've attacked those guys with a bat.
High Spiritus
15-03-2005, 15:56
...get up, stand up, stand up for your rights...

It's still a long way to go. No resignation, confrontation! Convince your parents to report what happened.