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There's a guy on television doing an infomercial. I didn't flip off the TV, cause I wanted background noise. I'm glad I didn't turn it off.

This guy claims that your body has a PH.(Different bodily fluids have different PH, methinks) He then claims that if you have an alkaline PH, you cannot get cancer. He then makes the jump from there that acid PH is most of the cause of cancer, and if you change your body PH to alkali, cancer will go away.

He has a book, and he claims that with natural ingredients he can cure anything from bipolar disorder to fibromyalgia. Somehow I doubt that.

The guy claims that addictive compounds are put into food so that we will eat more.

The guy claims he can't actually mention any specific medicines that don't work wince companies will sue him, and he cites something that happened to Oprah as "proof". Then he says the exact same thing that Oprah had. Hmm, looks like the companies aren't suing everybody they don't like. You hear that clunk? That was your credibility falling out the window.

The guy claims that antidepressants have no effect whatsoever.

The guy claims the government has specifically forbidden him to talk about a cure he found for arthritis and joint pain.

The guy claims vinegar cures heartburn within five seconds.

This man is a genius!

There's a guy on television doing an infomercial. I didn't flip off the TV, cause I wanted background noise. I'm glad I didn't turn it off.

This guy claims that your body has a PH.(Different bodily fluids have different PH, methinks) He then claims that if you have an alkaline PH, you cannot get cancer. He then makes the jump from there that acid PH is most of the cause of cancer, and if you change your body PH to alkali, cancer will go away.

He has a book, and he claims that with natural ingredients he can cure anything from bipolar disorder to fibromyalgia. Somehow I doubt that.

The guy claims that addictive compounds are put into food so that we will eat more.

The guy claims he can't actually mention any specific medicines that don't work wince companies will sue him, and he cites something that happened to Oprah as "proof". Then he says the exact same thing that Oprah had. Hmm, looks like the companies aren't suing everybody they don't like. You hear that clunk? That was your credibility falling out the window.

The guy claims that antidepressants have no effect whatsoever.

The guy claims the government has specifically forbidden him to talk about a cure he found for arthritis and joint pain.

The guy claims vinegar cures heartburn within five seconds.

This man is a genius!
He wants people to make their bodies more alkaline, yet he recommends vinegar? How odd. :p

He wants people to make their bodies more alkaline, yet he recommends vinegar? How odd. :p
He disproves almost every claim he makes. The man is a walking contradiction.

I wish I had heard his name, because I want to buy his book just to laugh at it.
:D

The guy claims that antidepressants have no effect whatsoever.

There may be some truth to this. Recent news claimed SSRI's seem to often have more negative than positive effects on children, adolecents and elderly for instance. A Dutch pysychologist, Willem van den Burg, has also researched the effectiveness of antidepressants by looking at past medical reports and it appears that giving people placebos often yields the same results, without the negative side-effects.
So while the guys claim is a gross generalisation, he may be right if he says people should not grab those pills too easily.

OMG. I hope their not injecting the solution into their blood.

The guy claims that antidepressants have no effect whatsoever.
I agree...

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This guy claims that your body has a PH.(Different bodily fluids have different PH, methinks) He then claims that if you have an alkaline PH, you cannot get cancer. He then makes the jump from there that acid PH is most of the cause of cancer, and if you change your body PH to alkali, cancer will go away.

.....

Sounds like a plan.

*Fetches down the caustic soda he keeps to unblock the drains, makes up a good strong solution, and drinks it.*

Yay! No cancer for me!

*Dies.*

I went to America last year, and one day I was just sitting around watching television when an advert came on for Appliance Direct. I have to say, it was the most annoying advert I've ever seen. Not only did it last for five minutes, but when it finished, the exact same advert came on straight after it! In essene it was a ten minute advert for Appliance Direct. Needless to say I decided not to visit the store.

He disproves almost every claim he makes. The man is a walking contradiction.

I wish I had heard his name, because I want to buy his book just to laugh at it.
:D

Let me guess: this guy also sells that stupid Cortislim pill?

There's a guy on television doing an infomercial. I didn't flip off the TV, cause I wanted background noise. I'm glad I didn't turn it off.

This guy claims that your body has a PH.(Different bodily fluids have different PH, methinks) He then claims that if you have an alkaline PH, you cannot get cancer. He then makes the jump from there that acid PH is most of the cause of cancer, and if you change your body PH to alkali, cancer will go away.

He has a book, and he claims that with natural ingredients he can cure anything from bipolar disorder to fibromyalgia. Somehow I doubt that.

The guy claims that addictive compounds are put into food so that we will eat more.

The guy claims he can't actually mention any specific medicines that don't work wince companies will sue him, and he cites something that happened to Oprah as "proof". Then he says the exact same thing that Oprah had. Hmm, looks like the companies aren't suing everybody they don't like. You hear that clunk? That was your credibility falling out the window.

The guy claims that antidepressants have no effect whatsoever.

The guy claims the government has specifically forbidden him to talk about a cure he found for arthritis and joint pain.

The guy claims vinegar cures heartburn within five seconds.

This man is a genius!

This man's mad rantings may prove that there IS something in the water...

Hmm...

Apologies in advance, this is off topic and not referring to the infomercial guy's bullshit, and I'm not attempting to thread jack, but I need to vent and, sorry NA, but this thread seems like as good a place as any, because the anti-depressants thing made me think of it. I've had M.E (chronic fatigue syndrome) 5 years this summer now, and it makes me really angry when people say it's not a real illness, or it's all in my head, or a different outlook would make it all go away. They just have no idea what it's like, how it feels to be in a body which won't let you do normal things without paying for it by being ill for about a week afterwards, how I've only lived a fraction of my teenage years. Sorry, I know this sounds like I'm looking for sympathy - I'm not - but people shouldn't put any judgement on an illness's legitimacy until they or a close friend or family member have been through it themselves.

people shouldn't put any judgement on an illness's legitimacy until they or a close friend or family member have been through it themselves.
I hate it when people say things like "bipolar disorder isn't a real illness, just learn to control yourself!" or "your sleep problems aren't n illness, you're just staying up because you wnat to" or things like that. It's not as if they know, they just want to feel important by telling other people that their problems don't exist.
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The guy claims vinegar cures heartburn within five seconds.


Holy crap that really isn't right. I get heartburn from time to time either from really fiberous substances or very acidic substances i have found. Examples are raisonbran, orange juice, lemon juice (ack) etc. However the heartburn I get from acids is less but it still causes it (raisonbran makes me have it for the whole day =( ) Well since vinegar is a pretty concentrated acid I think that it would make it flare up like no tomarrow. I have had too much vinegar before on a salad and it wasn't nice.

I hate it when people say things like "bipolar disorder isn't a real illness, just learn to control yourself!" or "your sleep problems aren't n illness, you're just staying up because you wnat to" or things like that. It's not as if they know, they just want to feel important by telling other people that their problems don't exist.
:mad:

I empathise. I mean, I have an uncle with bipolar disorder, and it makes sense. I only wonder as to why it took him so long to be diagnosed.

Also, conditions that people claim are "made up" are usually ones that we haven't yet found the organic cause for. Once we will they'll have no reason to whinge.

There's a guy on television doing an infomercial. I didn't flip off the TV, cause I wanted background noise. I'm glad I didn't turn it off....



I saw that idiot a few days ago. I remember thinking 'omfg what crap!' as I reached for the remote.

That guy sounds... special.

I hate it when people say things like "bipolar disorder isn't a real illness, just learn to control yourself!" or "your sleep problems aren't n illness, you're just staying up because you wnat to" or things like that. It's not as if they know, they just want to feel important by telling other people that their problems don't exist.
:mad:
I hear you. M.E has alot of associated disorders - for example, because of mine I have also developed some rare strand of clinical depression and insomnia (as well as other unassociated stuff, like anaemia and a stomach disorder which makes me sick alot, and started a rumour that I was bullimic). It's all the sort of stuff which people give me alot of crap about, saying it's because I have a pessimistic attitude, or that I don't want to sleep, and it's like, as if I didn't already feel rubbish about myself, you know? These people are generally the ones with brilliant immune systems and have no concept of what it's like to be ill ALL THE TIME. Again, sorry if you didn't want to know all this rubbish about me, but sometimes it just makes me want to scream! I'm not a psycho really...

These people are generally the ones with brilliant immune systems and have no concept of what it's like to be ill ALL THE TIME.
Gah, I hate that. I don't have any disorders that I know of, but I have an extremely weak immune system. I get sick very often and in most cases get hit really badly by those sicknesses. I had to get hospitalized with infections a lot as a kid, and my immune system never got much stronger. The other problem is that I am very allergic to every strong antibiotic I have tried so far, so basically I have to lay in bed for a few weeks while my system recuperates.

This didn't go over well with the school, because I missed at least a month out of every year of school due to illness. And everybody just said "Oh, you aren't that sick, go to school!" or "Why didn't you show up, I had a cold yesterday and I came anyway!" Well, no shit they came anyway, they were actually able to stand up without help.
Again, sorry if you didn't want to know all this rubbish about me, but sometimes it just makes me want to scream! I'm not a psycho really...
No worries.
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The guy claims that addictive compounds are put into food so that we will eat more.
Funny how we don't ALL eat a lot then.

The guy claims that antidepressants have no effect whatsoever.
They had the effect of makign my bf* more depressed.

The guy claims vinegar cures heartburn within five seconds.
Ouch. Acid to combat acid. He should have reccomended a glass of water with baking soda dissolved in it. That actually works...


*Still don't know what's going on there...

Holy crap that really isn't right. I get heartburn from time to time either from really fiberous substances or very acidic substances i have found. Examples are raisonbran, orange juice, lemon juice (ack) etc. However the heartburn I get from acids is less but it still causes it (raisonbran makes me have it for the whole day =( ) Well since vinegar is a pretty concentrated acid I think that it would make it flare up like no tomarrow. I have had too much vinegar before on a salad and it wasn't nice.
If heartburn's anything like dealing with ulcers, I don't think it's the fibre that's getting you so much as the quantity...

I know for ulcers, it's spicy food, alcohol, eating too much at once, stress and some other shit I can't think of just now. But yeah, more acid (vinegar isn't too concentrated, but still) just wouldn't help the situation.

I loved the guy's claim on heartburn. though. He said heartburn was caused by not having enough acid in your stomach, and that the burning sensation had nothing whatsoever to do with stomach acids.
:headbang:

Gah, I hate that. I don't have any disorders that I know of, but I have an extremely weak immune system. I get sick very often and in most cases get hit really badly by those sicknesses....
This didn't go over well with the school, because I missed at least a month out of every year of school due to illness. And everybody just said "Oh, you aren't that sick, go to school!" or "Why didn't you show up, I had a cold yesterday and I came anyway!" Well, no shit they came anyway, they were actually able to stand up without help.

Whoa, it's a freak of nature - someone who understands! :fluffle:

Gah, I hate that. I don't have any disorders that I know of, but I have an extremely weak immune system. I get sick very often and in most cases get hit really badly by those sicknesses. I had to get hospitalized with infections a lot as a kid, and my immune system never got much stronger. The other problem is that I am very allergic to every strong antibiotic I have tried so far, so basically I have to lay in bed for a few weeks while my system recuperates.

I know how you feel -- I have sinus problems which mean I get almost every bug going. Fortunately I'm not allergic to penecillin (very useful, seeing as I get quite a few infections). But now my friends have seen me go to lectures with raging tonisillitis, sit an exam 2 hours after throwing up and play hockey in sub-freezing temperatures with an ear infection, they've come to believe that if I saw I'm too ill to do anything, I really am quite sick. :)

But now my friends have seen me go to lectures with raging tonisillitis, sit an exam 2 hours after throwing up and play hockey in sub-freezing temperatures with an ear infection, they've come to believe that if I saw I'm too ill to do anything, I really am quite sick. :)
You hardcore person, good for you! :) :fluffle: I also want to share my hardcore story from last summer, because I'm damn proud of it! I'd been in hospital for 2 weeks, and came out with my stomach held together with tape from an op, sat my AS level exams, got straight As and aced 5 of them (partially because my history teacher is a total legend!), and then (when the dressing came off the op site), did a 9 day intensive lifeguarding course. Of course, this is only worth telling because normally I'm quite rubbish!

I went to America last year, and one day I was just sitting around watching television when an advert came on for Appliance Direct. I have to say, it was the most annoying advert I've ever seen. Not only did it last for five minutes, but when it finished, the exact same advert came on straight after it! In essene it was a ten minute advert for Appliance Direct. Needless to say I decided not to visit the store.

No...not...that...See it all, and save! Plus! SAME DAY DELIVERY! And what's with Wakki Nu Nu (or whatever) he says anyway?

The only good thing about that advert is it gave me something to do apart from watch the news about the hurricane coming my way (Jeanne) that made my flight cancelled. I was supposed to leave Saturday, finally get on the plane at 01:20AM (EST) Wednesday.

Don't forget, if you didn't buy direct, you paid too much!

www.appliancedirect.com has all their adverts on. NOOOOOOO!

You hardcore person, good for you! :) :fluffle: I also want to share my hardcore story from last summer, because I'm damn proud of it! I'd been in hospital for 2 weeks, and came out with my stomach held together with tape from an op, sat my AS level exams, got straight As and aced 5 of them (partially because my history teacher is a total legend!), and then (when the dressing came off the op site), did a 9 day intensive lifeguarding course. Of course, this is only worth telling because normally I'm quite rubbish!

Hehe, it's still an awesome hardcore story though. We are teh tough people. :cool: :p

Hehe, it's still an awesome hardcore story though. We are teh tough people. :cool: :p
Solidarity, brother!
Then I did two weeks volunteer work at a kids camp straight after (that's what the lifeguarding was for). Maybe next time we're both sick we could go sky-diving or something?

No...not...that...See it all, and save! Plus! SAME DAY DELIVERY! And what's with Wakki Nu Nu (or whatever) he says anyway?

The only good thing about that advert is it gave me something to do apart from watch the news about the hurricane coming my way (Jeanne) that made my flight cancelled. I was supposed to leave Saturday, finally get on the plane at 01:20AM (EST) Wednesday.

Don't forget, if you didn't buy direct, you paid too much!

www.appliancedirect.com has all their adverts on. NOOOOOOO!

Christ...the flashbacks!!! :eek:

I hate it when people say things like "bipolar disorder isn't a real illness, just learn to control yourself!" or "your sleep problems aren't n illness, you're just staying up because you wnat to" or things like that. It's not as if they know, they just want to feel important by telling other people that their problems don't exist.

Major Depressive Disorder/Bipolar here. Whoever says it's "all in your head" (OK, it is, but you know what I mean:p) are just plain ignorant.

But then again, there are true, documented stories about people curing themselves of cancer by not believing it would kill them (source: Scandinavian Science Illustrated) after being given placeboes. So there might be something to it. It's a bunch of BS to say depression is nothing, but mind>body is more competent than you think. Just don't let that turn you away from seeking treatment. Every single psychiatric hospital saves lives on a daily basis.

By the way, what's with the US phrase "clinically proven"? "Clinically proven to eliminate hangovers?" I laughed out loud :D . The USA is a wonderful, but strange country.

Solidarity, brother!
Then I did two weeks volunteer work at a kids camp straight after (that's what the lifeguarding was for). Maybe next time we're both sick we could go sky-diving or something?

Hehe, actually it's sister. I volunteer at a camp, too, great fun. Although I managed to not be sick at that point (well I was sick one day, but not very).

There's a guy on television doing an infomercial. I didn't flip off the TV, cause I wanted background noise. I'm glad I didn't turn it off.

This guy claims that your body has a PH.(Different bodily fluids have different PH, methinks) He then claims that if you have an alkaline PH, you cannot get cancer. He then makes the jump from there that acid PH is most of the cause of cancer, and if you change your body PH to alkali, cancer will go away.
It sounds incredible, but I've heard that elsewhere. I don't remember the theory behind that claim. If it's true, where else would you expect to hear it?

He has a book, and he claims that with natural ingredients he can cure anything from bipolar disorder to fibromyalgia. Somehow I doubt that.

The guy claims that addictive compounds are put into food so that we will eat more.

The guy claims he can't actually mention any specific medicines that don't work wince companies will sue him, and he cites something that happened to Oprah as "proof". Then he says the exact same thing that Oprah had. Hmm, looks like the companies aren't suing everybody they don't like. You hear that clunk? That was your credibility falling out the window.

The guy claims that antidepressants have no effect whatsoever.I wouldn't agree with that. They have effects, most of which are bad.

The guy claims the government has specifically forbidden him to talk about a cure he found for arthritis and joint pain.It is illegal to claim something to be a cure if the FDA has not found it to be one. It's plausible that he recieved a cease-and-desist order regarding a claim he was making.

The guy claims vinegar cures heartburn within five seconds.
And the people who make all sorts of products claim they have the cure for hearburn. If I ever got heartburn, I'd give vinegar a try.

Ro-ro: A close family member had that -- in Year 12, the year that determines what your University admission score is. It came on after glandular fever (which went undiagnosed at the time). She'd been getting 90s; she kept going, attending school about five days in a month; took two years to do her Higher School Certificate, eventually got a 72. She worked for a while, then applied for mature age admission (at 20!) and got 100% on another form of academic admission test. She's now acing all her courses.

My points are several: 1. It's not well-recognised, but there are sympathetic people, including one of the teachers, who'd had it himself and almost lost his job over it until he found a doctor willing to put her name on the diagnosis. 2. It's also spectacularly opposed by some medicos. The psychologist to whom my family member was referred told her she didn't have any disease; she was depressed, he said (and we're probably lucky he didn't say "just depressed"), which might have some connection to her (significant glance) "weight problem". (He'd have had a weight problem and been depressed, too, if he was too tired to move for days on end). 3. Have you lost friends over it? She did. As you know, it doesn't look as if you're sick. Even in the family, there were times we found it hard to believe in. 4. She recovered. She had no medical assistance, she just got gradually stronger. 5. The "greyness" comes back if she gets over-tired or stressed. She has learnt to watch for it and drop everything -- the consequences of falling sick again are far greater than the consequences of getting assignments in late.

It's a little like asthma (though nobody watching someone have an asthma attack is going to say that it doesn't exist). But when I was small it was considered to be a "nervous" disease, something a child could avoid if he or she was taught to be sufficiently strong-minded. I would say, "If I could stop it, don't you think I would? I don't like not being able to breathe!" The adults and the experts wouldn't listen then. But now, of course, everyone "knows" it's a real but treatable condition.

And now they're not listening to you. I really felt for you saying you'd only lived a fraction of your teenage years. That's how it was for her, too. None of us, including herself, knows what turned things around. Right now, all there seems to be is the hope that you'll find people who believe you. Guess you've found some here.