NationStates Jolt Archive

If that is Pakistani law, who are you to criticize?
I agree with Corneliu

(What The Hell is happening? yesterday I agreed with Whitiier today Corneliu...Who is next...Eutrusca? :D )

I agree with Corneliu

(What The Hell is happening? yesterday I agreed with Whitiier today Corneliu...Who is next...Eutrusca? :D )

*dies of a heart attack*

*dies of a heart attack*
LOL.
:D :D :eek: :D

95% of criminal laws are quite fair.

Taxation Laws are stupid...they were written by Chimps with Typewriters :D

LOL!!! I'll buy you a drink for this.

LOL!!! I'll buy you a drink for this.
Doble Tequila con limon. Thanx...

Doble Tequila con limon. Thanx...

*Buys it and hands it to OceanDrive*

To an unusual agreement :D

Depends on the particular law. :confused: :confused:


When was the last time you filed an income tax return?

No you don't have the right to criticize ANY nation's laws. It shows arrogance.

Yes, I do. I did and no one can stop me. No one is even allowed to stop me. Know why? Because it is my right to criticise whatever I want. I don't care how arrogant you claim it to be (since it isn't) and it is also my right to not give a shit about it.

Opinions yes, criticize? no.

Then you must either live in a very unfree country, or you just like to put poorly thought-out restrictions on yourself.

Then you must either live in a very unfree country, or you just like to put poorly thought-out restrictions on yourself.

I live in the Good Ole US of A! The land of the free and the home of the Brave.

When was the last time you filed an income tax return?

Last Fall actually. It arrived through the mail, was already correctly filled out by my local tax office, and I just sent off an SMS to confirm that I agreed to what it said. Took, what, five minutes?

I live in the Good Ole US of A! The land of the free and the home of the Brave.

Both, then, apparently.

Both, then, apparently.

Apparently, you no zip, zilch, nadda, nothing, about the United States.

Apparently, you no zip, zilch, nadda, nothing, about the United States.

I KnoW very much about the US, thank you very much. Unlike some people, I've actually a thing called a "passport" which I use to visit the US semi-regularly. And it is not as free as it claims.

I KnoW very much about the US, thank you very much. Unlike some people, I've actually a thing called a "passport" which I use to visit the US semi-regularly. And it is not as free as it claims.

I live here dude and I can tell you we are very free. The only thing you have is a passport. I have a passport of my own! I used it to visit Panama when my dad was down there. Doesn't mean I know Panama.

I live here dude and I can tell you we are very free.

Meh. The freedoms there leave me unimpressed, for a first-world country.

The only thing you have is a passport. I have a passport of my own! I used it to visit Panama when my dad was down there. Doesn't mean I know Panama.

Lucky for me then that I spent a continuous year in the US as part of an exchange programme. Stop using your limited experiences as a measure, please.

Meh. The freedoms there leave me unimpressed, for a first-world country.

And what nation are you from?

Lucky for me then that I spent a continuous year in the US as part of an exchange programme. Stop using your limited experiences as a measure, please.

My limitied experience? Fass, I have lived 22 years in the United States. This is my nation. I know it very well. Don't tell me that I have limited experience.

And what nation are you from?

I live in Sweden, but I wasn't born here.

My limitied experience? Fass, I have lived 22 years in the United States. This is my nation. I know it very well. Don't tell me that I have limited experience.

I meant your limited experience of other countries. If you've only lived in the US, then you have no way to confirm that is as free as you claim. I've lived there, and I've lived in other countries, and the freedoms in the US were pretty much standard for first-world countries. Well, except when it comes to those the US's puritanical history has suppressed.

And looking historically, the US has been quite the unfree country. I mean, you had apartheid into the '60's and slavery into the second part of the 19th century!

I live in Sweden, but I wasn't born here.



I meant your limited experience of other countries. If you've only lived in the US, then you have no way to confirm that is as free as you claim. I've lived there, and I've lived in other countries, and the freedoms in the US were pretty much standard for first-world countries. Well, except when it comes to those the US's puritanical history has suppressed.

And looking historically, the US has been quite the unfree country. I mean, you had apartheid into the '60's and slavery into the second part of the 19th century!

Sweden? Always wanted to visit it but meh, plane tickets are expensive.

I may have limited travel time overseas, but my family has lived in other countries and visited other ones too. They would rather live in the US than anywhere else.

As for history, Here's a fact, it wasn't aparthied, that took place in South Africa. We settled it with the Civil Rights Act. The only smart thing LBJ did. Slavery? Ended in 1865 when the Confederate States lost the Civil War. Sweden had its own problems. Every nation has things in its past that they are embarrassed of. Britain, France, Sweden, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Russia, Japan, China, Mongolia, Turkey, Persia, Germany, Italy, Greece!

Sweden? Always wanted to visit it but meh, plane tickets are expensive.

We'd love to have you.

I may have limited travel time overseas, but my family has lived in other countries and visited other ones too. They would rather live in the US than anywhere else.

Yes, they. But that doesn't really say anything, does it? I find the Netherlands, which are a lot freer than Sweden IMHO, a horrible place to live. Nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Doesn't mean they're any less free.

As for history, Here's a fact, it wasn't aparthied, that took place in South Africa. We settled it with the Civil Rights Act. The only smart thing LBJ did.

Yes it was apartheid. It was the same apartheid, but you called it "segregation". Same thing, different names.

Slavery? Ended in 1865 when the Confederate States lost the Civil War.

I know, and that was quite late.

Sweden had its own problems. Every nation has things in its past that they are embarrassed of. Britain, France, Sweden, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Russia, Japan, China, Mongolia, Turkey, Persia, Germany, Italy, Greece!

Of course, but returning to the topic, I wrote "Both, then, apparently" to show you that "I live in the US and [insert platitude here]" wasn't really an answer to my (rhetorical) semi-question.

We settled it with the Civil Rights Act. The only smart thing LBJ did.

Then he turned right around and destroyed several generations of African-American families with state-sponsored indolence with the Great Society programs.

Then he turned right around and destroyed several generations of African-American families with state-sponsored indolence with the Great Society programs.

Never said LBJ was smart. Just said the CR Act was the smartest thing he did. LBJ is by far the worst president we've ever had.

Allah Akbar...

Yes it was apartheid. It was the same apartheid, but you called it "segregation". Same thing, different names.


Apartheid and segreation are different.

Apartheid is two "homelands", segregation is one country, but one set of people have to take second status.

Apartheid and segreation are different.

Apartheid is two "homelands", segregation is one country, but one set of people have to take second status.

Any legally sanctioned system of racial segregation is apartheid. Apartheid even means "segregation, 'aparthood'". The 'homelands' in South Africa were invented long after apartheid came into being, and were just another expression of segregation.

"International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid

For the purpose of the present Convention, the term "the crime of apartheid", which shall include similar policies and practices of racial segregation and discrimination as practised in southern Africa, shall apply to the following inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them:

(a) Denial to a member or members of a racial group or groups of the right to life and liberty of person

(i) By murder of members of a racial group or groups;
(ii) By the infliction upon the members of a racial group or groups of serious bodily or mental harm, by the infringement of their freedom or dignity, or by subjecting them to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment;
(iii) By arbitrary arrest and illegal imprisonment of the members of a racial group or groups;

(b) Deliberate imposition on a racial group or groups of living conditions calculated to cause its or their physical destruction in whole or in part;
(c) Any legislative measures and other measures calculated to prevent a racial group or groups from participation in the political, social, economic and cultural life of the country and the deliberate creation of conditions preventing the full development of such a group or groups, in particular by denying to members of a racial group or groups basic human rights and freedoms, including the right to work, the right to form recognised trade unions, the right to education, the right to leave and to return to their country, the right to a nationality, the right to freedom of movement and residence, the right to freedom of opinion and expression, and the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association;
(d) Any measures including legislative measures, designed to divide the population along racial lines by the creation of separate reserves and ghettos for the members of a racial group or groups, the prohibition of mixed marriages among members of various racial groups, the expropriation of landed property belonging to a racial group or groups or to members thereof;
(e) Exploitation of the labour of the members of a racial group or groups, in particular by submitting them to forced labour;
(f) Persecution of organisations and persons, by depriving them of fundamental rights and freedoms, because they oppose apartheid."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid

If that is Pakistani law, who are you to criticize?
Wait, isn't that what America is famous for, critisising everyone but there own laws. Isn't that what this war is about. Hey better watch out, Australia has a different drinking age then you, drop the bomb!

Talk about taking things aout of context. Criticism != war or invasion or whatever. Your "logical" expansion is a fallacy.

Your the one that said we have all the rights we need to (I am interpreting here) do as we please, not me.

Your the one that said we have all the rights we need to (I am interpreting here) do as we please, not me.

To criticise. You really need to learn what "context" means.

Never said LBJ was smart. Just said the CR Act was the smartest thing he did. LBJ is by far the worst president we've ever had.


NO! NO! and NO!

given the same circumstances, Carter would have done much worse. As it is, he took a mildly bad situation and made it into a disaster. At least LBJ had some sort of vision/backbone Carter was just a complete political hack. And yes, I know about Johnson's political chicanery(the epitome of career politician) political machine and all.

Last Fall actually. It arrived through the mail, was already correctly filled out by my local tax office, and I just sent off an SMS to confirm that I agreed to what it said. Took, what, five minutes?
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*GASP*
*feels Uber-Jealousy flooding*

...So I see...you come from a superior Alien Civilization...
Damn IRS...they need fo be chained..and sent to your Planet on a forced learning trip.