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Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
"Spare the rod and spoil the child." Children need two things besides the usual bread, board and clothes: to know that at least one adult loves them unconditionally, and to know that there us such a thing as unacceptable behavior with consequences for that behavior that will follow like night follows day. "Consequences" do not equal beatings.

The clear myth that I'm not wonderful, great, sincere and humble ;)

The myth that the republicans are for small government.

http://alanchapman.org/libertyvault/gwb.html

That the chinese invented pasta.

That the bible is an account of actual events.

One of the ones that gets me is the idea that all people will screw you over if they get the chance, or the opposing idea that all people will help you if they get the chance. It just seems so obvious that neither are the case, but a lot of people seem to believe one of the two.

Grr at false dichotomies.

One of the ones that gets me is the idea that all people will screw you over if they get the chance, or the opposing idea that all people will help you if they get the chance. It just seems so obvious that neither are the case, but a lot of people seem to believe one of the two.

Grr at false dichotomies.


What if they screw you over, then feel bad and totally help you out?

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
The myth that annoys me most is that of the creator god, Marduk the Conqueror. He took the slain body of his mother goddess Tiamat and fashioned out of her all of mankind. How rude!

If he was a good son-god, he'd at least have had sex with her first.

What if they screw you over, then feel bad and totally help you out?
I dunno.

:eek:
What happens if I screw them over after that, and then someone entirely unrelated comes and helps them out, then I help the other person?

I dunno.

:eek:
What happens if I screw them over after that, and then someone entirely unrelated comes and helps them out, then I help the other person?

Ermm..... :confused:

Oh I know, your Karma comes out equal :)

The myth that a mental disorder is a disadvantage.

Dudes and cars, most of them. Including:

The Penis Thing-Look, I really don't know or care how I 'measure up,' and I want the car because I think it looks cool and it's fun as hell to go fast. Especially through turns. Some I just like for thier personality (like my current ride, a '67 VW Bus) I don't care what it makes people think about me-unless they too are car people and then it's just people who like the same thing as I do.

It's a Guy Thing-I started racing at a very young age. (I don't any more. I'm poor now) Everyone on the same base level, pure reflex. The girls where better. The best mechanic and most enthusiastic car owner I know is a woman.

The Mid-Life Crisis-Porsches are expensive. Corvettes are expensive. Some times it takes until the middle of your life to afford those cars. If some tongue cluckers think I'm too old thats their hang up.

You Don't Need it-Look...I'm sayin'....I mean........alright, I don't need it. Shut up.

Probably more that I've scared over.

Dudes and cars, most of them. Including:

The Penis Thing-Look, I really don't know or care how I 'measure up,' and I want the car because I think it looks cool and it's fun as hell to go fast. Especially through turns. Some I just like for thier personality (like my current ride, a '67 VW Bus) I don't care what it makes people think about me-unless they too are car people and then it's just people who like the same thing as I do.

It's a Guy Thing-I started racing at a very young age. (I don't any more. I'm poor now) Everyone on the same base level, pure reflex. The girls where better. The best mechanic and most enthusiastic car owner I know is a woman.

The Mid-Life Crisis-Porsches are expensive. Corvettes are expensive. Some times it takes until the middle of your life to afford those cars. If some tongue cluckers think I'm too old thats their hang up.

You Don't Need it-Look...I'm sayin'....I mean........alright, I don't need it. Shut up.

Probably more that I've scared over.


German cars have no character.

German cars have no character.
Okey dokey.

Okey dokey.

Well, there is a place you can take your corvette in conecticut that will make it the finest street vehicle ever. But it's not for people who like german cars. german cars are neither fish nor fowl.

Well, there is a place you can take your corvette in conecticut that will make it the finest street vehicle ever. But it's not for people who like german cars. german cars are neither fish nor fowl.
Alrighty.

The myth that annoys me most is that of the creator god, Marduk the Conqueror. He took the slain body of his mother goddess Tiamat and fashioned out of her all of mankind. How rude!

If he was a good son-god, he'd at least have had sex with her first.

Personally I'm greatful for that one. It's where we get Jaws :)

The belief that the phrase "the exception that proves the rule" means that if someone can prove that your gross generalization is false then your proof that they're wrong only proves that they're right.

That the phrase "activist judge" means anything at all.

That the court system is inherently liberal.

That someone that had at least the brains of a rock or the heart of a snake could have voted for Bush. Twice.

That the lesson of Revalations is that because Jesus was never violent in his life but will be at the end of the world means that we should be violent whenever we feel like it as long as we're Christians.

That the United States fights for democracy all over the world.

That Muslims "hate our freedom."

That "the private sector does it better."

That if we legalize a drug it will lead to the irrevocable destruction of all society as we are swept up in a wave of intoxicated riots and orgies.

I'm sure I'll think of more, but when you're annoyed simultaneously by as many beliefs as I am you have a tendency to loose track :D

The Theban Plays. Story of King Oedipus is just too gross.

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
Pandora and Dionysus.

Because one opened up the doors to the club, and the next is obviously the promoter.

Interesting, but infamously dangerous. Post-millenium life is fascinating, and fabulous.

I dislike the Myth of Myrth.








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I dislike the Myth of Myrth.








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Considering my recent return from the dead, I agree. Just not about her, but other ubersensitives.

What myth do you dislike most?
You forgot the r......
Just kidding.

That there's such a thing as a 'higher lifeform'. Aside from pot smokers, but that's a different usage...

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
The myth of Yah being the only god, as spread by the Israelites after the Exodus until today. But reasons for monotheism are still missing.

The myth that certain groups of people who are different from you, all do a certain bad thing, and are the only ones who do it, meaning you are compelled by some unseen force to harrass them with every breath you take.

The myth of Yah being the only god, as spread by the Israelites after the Exodus until today. But reasons for monotheism are still missing.

Well, in Civilization it allows you to create Elephant units I think...

The myth that the republicans are for small government.

http://alanchapman.org/libertyvault/gwb.html
In a similar vein, that Thatcher led a tax-cutting government.

One that pisses me off is that feminists are man-haters and want women to be better than men. Ho-hum... I've owed that the first man (or woman for that matter) to call me a "feminazi" to my face gets a slap. :D

I don't think anyone will have the balls though.

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

Sex:
- The myth that a woman always bleeds the first time
- The myth that a woman cannot get pregnant from the first time

Politics & the world:
- The myth that the USA was founded as a Christian nation
- The myth that we can conclusively show that certain moral systems are better than certain others (e.g. democratic principles vs. dictatorship).

Bible & religious debates
- the whole "forbidden fruit was an apple thing".
- that evolution
a. claims that humans evolved from monkeys and
b. that the fact there still are monkeys somehow contradicts the theory.
- That it doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, you just need to believe in God. Of course, I cannot say that this is a myth since I can't provide evidence that those Christian teachings are wrong.

Fairy tales
- The fact that most fairy tales state that if the hero(ine) is in love and has a competitior for his/her loves favours the other person is always evil.

Sex:
- The myth that a woman always bleeds the first time
- The myth that a woman cannot get pregnant from the first time

Politics & the world:
- The myth that the USA was founded as a Christian nation
- The myth that we can conclusively show that certain moral systems are better than certain others (e.g. democratic principles vs. dictatorship).

Bible & religious debates
- the whole "forbidden fruit was an apple thing".
- that evolution
a. claims that humans evolved from monkeys and
b. that the fact there still are monkeys somehow contradicts the theory.
- That it doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, you just need to believe in God. Of course, I cannot say that this is a myth since I can't provide evidence that those Christian teachings are wrong.

Fairy tales
- The fact that most fairy tales state that if the hero(ine) is in love and has a competitior for his/her loves favours the other person is always evil.



if you were to read any basic book on evolution it would explain your monky propblem......see thing is the present day monkeys are in-turn the evolutionary product of their ancestors as are we also chimps

That bad things don't happen to good people.

One thing that really gets to me, as I study medieval warfare as part of my course at uni, is the blind assumption that the Katana is the greatest sword ever made and eastern martial arts are supreme ways of fighting... so much better than the western knights who fought with all strength, no skill and blunt swords that weighed 20 pounds or more...


...its absolute lies at the best, propegated by hollywood, anime, japanese historians and others who should know better.


There are hundreds of western martial arts with records of them in medieval manuscripts, such as Lichtenauer, Fiore, Silver and Talhoffer which show that medieval europe was full of skilled swordsmen and martial artists...with swords that weighed on average the same as a Katana and were almost as good at cutting and better at thrusting than the Katana.

I would write more but just google western martial arts and learn something new!

One thing that really gets to me, as I study medieval warfare as part of my course at uni, is the blind assumption that the Katana is the greatest sword ever made and eastern martial arts are supreme ways of fighting... so much better than the western knights who fought with all strength, no skill and blunt swords that weighed 20 pounds or more...


...its absolute lies at the best, propegated by hollywood, anime, japanese historians and others who should know better.


There are hundreds of western martial arts with records of them in medieval manuscripts, such as Lichtenauer, Fiore, Silver and Talhoffer which show that medieval europe was full of skilled swordsmen and martial artists...with swords that weighed on average the same as a Katana and were almost as good at cutting and better at thrusting than the Katana.

I would write more but just google western martial arts and learn something new!


here here.
me i am a fencer and am fed up with people asking "why dont you do ikedo instead"
personally i am not to keen on the japanese or there ways of fighting however i am sure there ar many nice japanese people :D

That the bible is an account of actual events.

I'll second that one.

1)That Anarchists believe in "anarchy".

2)That wearing one of these:

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...means you are a terrorist/support terrorist actions.

1)That Anarchists believe in "anarchy".

2)That wearing one of these:

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/210000/214300/214324/Products/7796905.jpg

...means you are a terrorist/support terrorist actions.

those don't support terroist loads of people wear them here.

1)That Anarchists believe in "anarchy".


That one too.

Never really come across the other one though.

That political and religious myths are worth discussing. I mean, why bother, since almost no one's going to agree with you?

(Yes, I am talking to some people in this thread.)

That EVERYONE can succeed at EVERYTHING if they just put their mind to it.

People have natural talents. People do not all have the SAME natural talents. I am NEVER going to be an Olympic gold medalist for ice skating no matter how hard I try.

The biological clock thing. It isn't like there is some clock inside your body waiting to go off if you don't have babies by a certain age. I think it's more societal pressure on women to have kids, or they cannot be considered "real" women. Every woman is different and how long her eggs are viable can vary.

Of actual myths, I'd have to say Gilgamesh, just wasn't that enjoyable to read.

And as far as common knowledge things go, that liberal is seen as synonymous with taxing and spending.

those don't support terroist[sic] loads of people wear them here.

I know. ;)

1)That Anarchists believe in "anarchy".




that anarchism and socialism are mutually exclusive

that fascism is the same as being extremely conservative

that modern social democrats did not evolve for the most part out of marxist parties

the reagan brought down the soviet union.

that pope jp2 brought down the soviet union

that america pretty much won ww2 by itself with only minor help from its allies

that the us won the war of 1812

that the us could have won vietman if it weren't for the damn hippies betraying the troops at home.

the spitting on returning vietnam vets was the rule and not the exception.

that islamists hate america for its freedom.

That EVERYONE can succeed at EVERYTHING if they just put their mind to it.

People have natural talents. People do not all have the SAME natural talents. I am NEVER going to be an Olympic gold medalist for ice skating no matter how hard I try.


very good point, also that everyone can be the best at something... which can really only be true if the catagories are extremely specialized and obscure. 6 billon people and you're in the top one tenth of one percent in some skill or acheivement, you're still sharing the stage with 6 million other people. if you're one in a million you still have 6000 friends just like you.

The myth of Lilith, nuff said. I really don't like the Greek myths a lot, but at least they aren't heavy-handed anti-feminist propaganda.

The myth of Lilith, nuff said. I really don't like the Greek myths a lot, but at least they aren't heavy-handed anti-feminist propaganda.

How's the Myth of Lilith anti-feminist?

Are we thinking about the same Lilith? (First wife of Adam)

How's the Myth of Lilith anti-feminist?

Are we thinking about the same Lilith? (First wife of Adam)
she was caste aside and eventually turned into a minion of hell because she wanted to be on top, what's more patriarchal than that.

she was caste aside and eventually turned into a minion of hell because she wanted to be on top, what's more patriarchal than that.

I suppose it is interpretation.

I always saw it as Adam and God being small minded mysogynists who would punish and demonise anyone that exercised free will. But it appears I put the cart before the horse.

if you were to read any basic book on evolution it would explain your monky propblem......see thing is the present day monkeys are in-turn the evolutionary product of their ancestors as are we also chimps

I know. The things I mentioned are the myth I dislike ;)

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
The government can care for you better than you can.

NOT!!!!

The Hollywood myth that all gay guys are disfunctional, drug users, alcoholics, and never have an unlit cigarette in their hands. Honestly, outside of pornos, there are maybe 3 movies in which the gay character(s) are not stereotyped.

That what's between a couples' legs matters
more than what's between their hearts.

The myth that annoys me most is that of the creator god, Marduk the Conqueror. He took the slain body of his mother goddess Tiamat and fashioned out of her all of mankind. How rude!

If he was a good son-god, he'd at least have had sex with her first.

seems like everyone fasioning the world out of their dead parents nowadays, the greeks, the sumerians, the norse. gosh, i mean its creative and all, but come on.

My favourite mith (the most patetic) is:
"If you masturbate, you can get blind and you'll have hair in your hands"; if THAT mith is true, every single man older then 14 will be as blind as Stevie Wonder COME ON!!!!

That Walt Disney's body is frozen.

Myth?

Uh.. Work hard, get good grades, go to a good uni, get a good job, work hard up the ladder, save your money so that your kids can enjoy it while your body slowly rot from overworking your poor heart.

What taste bad is usually good for you.

MTV, and the high life Hollywood people live. That their all happy and fulfilled 24/7.

myths that the following people where wrong

Machiavelli
Malthus
Hobbes

And that the following are good:
Freedom of speech, press etc
Capitalism
America
Humans

she was caste aside and eventually turned into a minion of hell because she wanted to be on top, what's more patriarchal than that.

She also married satan and tries to kill unbaptised babies or something like that

That myth that jerk off Herodatus made about like 5 Greeks defeated the Persian Army.

The Theban Plays. Story of King Oedipus is just too gross.

That made a thing called oedipus complex which isnt good

The biggest Myth of them all is the Christian Relgion.

That myth that jerk off Herodatus made about like 5 Greeks defeated the Persian Army.

300 spartans held off 10,000 persians for 3 days when they were betrayed. It was true because persians suck at war and had cloth armor and 5' spears compared to the greek bronze armor and 10' spears

My favorite myth is the one about six million Jews being killed in gas chambers.
I think it was called the Holohoax.
:rolleyes:

Another myth i hate

Catholicism is wrong and atheism is right

That birds will explode if fed alka-seltzer or rice.

And yes, it IS a myth.

www.snopes.com no going into photosection and that is a warning. It is a myth site

My favorite myth is the one about six million Jews being killed in gas chambers.
I think it was called the Holohoax.
:rolleyes:


You do know in the General Forum thar your not supposed to be roleplaying...except if your in the Paradise Club, that's something else.

So please tell me that your joking...otherwise i want you to explain, why a big chunk of my family tree suddenly disappeared.


As for myth, my most disliked myth is that G-d doesn't exist and all religions are hoaxes. (see it can work both ways. :))

I also dislike the one with Icarus(sp?) flying into the sun....if he was so smart, doesnt he know heat would melt the wax?

The myth that it is impossible to know anything for sure.

The myth that everything is beautiful in its own way.

The myth that it is impossible to know anything for sure.

The myth that everything is beautiful in its own way.


Hurray somone else that believes it is impossible to be 0% or 100% on anything. ^_^

And beauty is relative...in some areas of Africa being Fat is beautful...some hippies think not bathing or shaving is beautiful.

And some think Jakson is beautiful.

Hurray somone else that believes it is impossible to be 0% or 100% on anything. ^_^

And beauty is relative...in some areas of Africa being Fat is beautful...some hippies think not bathing or shaving is beautiful.

And some think Jakson is beautiful.

I agree that a lot of things can be beautiful seen in the right light - just not everything. I have no problems with fat, and I could probably bring myself to see the beauty in not bathnig or shaving (not bathing would be tough though :P). Some things are never beautiful. An over the top example is genocide. I also think that ignorance is never a beautiful thing.

The urban myth that the customer is always right.

I have to continuosly tell the customers at our shop otherwise.

My favorite myth is the one about six million Jews being killed in gas chambers.
I think it was called the Holohoax.
My least favorite myth is the Myth that the Holocaust was Faked

My least favorite myth is the Myth that the Holocaust was Faked

That is also the most disgusting myth in my opinion although another myth I find extremely annoying is that the freer the marker the freer the people which is complete nonsense.

The myth that the republicans are for small government.


Yes, they're aren't close...well, the majority of them.

That Lincoln wanted to end slavery.

That free-banking doesn't compare to central banking.

That the government can spend your money better than you.

That the free-market was primarily at fault with the economic collapse of Black Friday, of 1929.

That Roosevelt brought us out of the Depression.

That Clinton or any politician brought about a surge of wealth in the economy.

All the truely big myths which are perpetuated by allowing a judge to rule that our Consitution is interpeted to have an allowance to all of these programs or 'rights'.

That all punks and/or metalheads are fat, drunk, tattooed pricks...
well, I am... but still...

that hen nights,white vans,footballers wives and fucking hp source are the things that represent britain

Flashheart']that hen nights,white vans,footballers wives and fucking hp source are the things that represent britain

Read the Guardian?

Top 5 myths I hate:-

- Feminists hate men
- The Bible is literal
- The holocaust didn't happen
- homosexuality can be cured
- Men are better at maths

Read the Guardian?

??? no i am fed up with the down fall of my nation

Top 5 myths I hate:-

- Feminists hate men
- The Bible is literal
- The holocaust didn't happen
- homosexuality can be cured
- Men are better at maths

homosexuality cant be cured :eek:
poor sam

:gundge:
-That all men are created equal (ever been in a locker room?)

-That all men think about is sex,sex,sex,sex,sex.Sorry,was thinking about sex.

-That size doesn't matter (ever try shooting a grizzly with a little gun?)

-That Elvis is dead

-All revealed religions :headbang:

Flashheart']??? no i am fed up with the down fall of my nation

There was a miny rant about it.

Wasn't quite sure if it was coincidence or not.

There was a miny rant about it.

Wasn't quite sure if it was coincidence or not.

no conection although i would have loved to be on that

That being fat means you are unhealthy.

I know plenty of people who are considered fat who eat healthy food, regularly exercise, have normal blood pressure, heart rate, glucose level and other indications of overall health. The only things that makes them "unhealthy" is a stupid number someone came up. (BMI)

Likewise, I know plenty of thin people who eat nothing but junk food, smoke, drink heavily, never exercise, who have high blood pressure, diabetes, etc., and couldn't walk a flight of stairs if you paid them.

You can't tell by the size of a person if they are healthy or not.

The other myth that bugs me is that everyone can be as skinny as a supermodel. Only a teeny percentage (like 1%) of women are built like supermodels, and yet that is the image held up for all women to achieve.

I'm not arguing with their beauty. They should be admired for their beauty and grace. But don't use them in ads to give the message that if you use that product, you will look like that. Some women never figure out that you have to work with the body you are given, but even worse, little kids are trying to make themselves look like that!

That people have some special right not to pay taxes.

That the unrestricted free market can provide the best average standard of living.

That the first amendment doesnt protect freedom from religion.

That government social programs do not help people.

*That this were better in the olden days [The Golden Age myth].

That people have some special right not to pay taxes.


Heard something simliar to that, but I've never seen it actually put into play.

That the unrestricted free market can provide the best average standard of living.

There's never been an 'unrestricted free market', so that's just speculation. Relative economic freedom has almost always meant economic growth (refer to summary of economic freedom charts), and thus it's illogical to claim that the more restrictive the market, the better off it's in the long run. I'm not getting into the nuts and bolts of it, I'm refering to it's whole. The freer the economy (generally), the better off it's future is.

That the first amendment doesnt protect freedom from religion.

Your saying that it protects you from religion in what aspect? From prayer in school or institutional/religious government...?

That government social programs do not help people.

Here's my three bucks taxed, and after it goes through the mesh here's my dollar. Hopefully the dollar helps. Sure a small percentage of the money taxed is helpful, if that's your standard.

I suppose it is interpretation.

I always saw it as Adam and God being small minded mysogynists who would punish and demonise anyone that exercised free will. But it appears I put the cart before the horse.

In the words of Pat Robertson, you're judging scripture instead of being judged by it.

That said, I couldn't agree more.

In the words of Pat Robertson, you're judging scripture instead of being judged by it.

That said, I couldn't agree more.

Well, I know that now. :)

I cant believe I forgot the BIGGEST one!


It has several incarnations:

Governments and heirarchies are the source of violence and avarice.

People naturally get along and work towards a common good.

Systems based upon mutual cooperation without coercion are practical in the long run.

Politics & the world:
- The myth that the USA was founded as a Christian nation
- The myth that we can conclusively show that certain moral systems are better than certain others (e.g. democratic principles vs. dictatorship).

Bible & religious debates
- the whole "forbidden fruit was an apple thing".
- that evolution
a. claims that humans evolved from monkeys and
b. that the fact there still are monkeys somehow contradicts the theory.
- That it doesn't matter if you are a good person or not, you just need to believe in God. Of course, I cannot say that this is a myth since I can't provide evidence that those Christian teachings are wrong.

It doesn't have to be wrong, a myth is, to quote the dictionary. "a traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people"

The apple thing is especially funny since apples weren't really widely available as a food until the dark ages. Until then most of them were totally inedible. It does support my belief that Adam and Eve were not so much being punished for their sin as they were accepting all of the difficulties that come from intellectual sophistication. And the only reason God told them not to was because it had to be their choice to become intelligent. It's a pro-free will story, not an anti snake story.

Fairy tales
- The fact that most fairy tales state that if the hero(ine) is in love and has a competitior for his/her loves favours the other person is always evil.

Myth? Dammit the smug bastard had it coming I tells ya' ;)

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.


I can't think of any myths atm. If you want to, list some.. maybe that will ring a bell, if not then I will decide which of what you list annoys me most :)

the one who sez "10% of population is gay" we are 15 % :D

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
The myth that leftists really care about people and their freedom.

i dont like the whole christmas/santa clause thing. .....or the easter bunny.

i dont like the whole christmas/santa clause thing. .....or the easter bunny.
damn you peechland. i was gonna say "fairy tales where the prince falls in love with a dead or unconscious princess" but YOU had to mention the freaking easter bunny

now im on a rant

WHY THE FUCK DOES A HOLY DAY LIKE EASTER NEED A HUGE SANTA CLAUS REPLACEMENT?

isnt the day good enough as is? do we really only have ONE template for holiday..."some mythical person gives us presents"?

what kind of nutcase goes to the mall to get a picture of their kid sitting on the easter bunny's lap?

arrrrrggghhh i gotta go walk around

lol @ ASH

Myrth.
*looks up*
I mean, Myrth is my favourite myth, Oh holy all seeing one!
*shakes nervously*

The myth that warhawks care anything about people and thier freedom...

The myth that scientists are evil and don't have feelings or moral thoughts.

Orignally posted by Peechland
i dont like the whole christmas/santa clause thing. .....or the easter bunny.

I don't like Santa either. I'm mean if the guy see's you when your sleeping and knows when your awake, that's kinda freaky, he's like a peeping tom.

I don't like Santa either. I'm mean if the guy see's you when your sleeping and knows when your awake, that's kinda freaky, he's like a peeping tom.
And he's far too Jolly around kids for my liking...[/old joke]

Originally posted by The Tribes Of Longton
And he's far too Jolly around kids for my liking...[/old joke]

I know, and he's always giving them presents, and he enslaves those poor elves.

That being fat means you are unhealthy.

I know plenty of people who are considered fat who eat healthy food, regularly exercise, have normal blood pressure, heart rate, glucose level and other indications of overall health. The only things that makes them "unhealthy" is a stupid number someone came up. (BMI)

Likewise, I know plenty of thin people who eat nothing but junk food, smoke, drink heavily, never exercise, who have high blood pressure, diabetes, etc., and couldn't walk a flight of stairs if you paid them.

You can't tell by the size of a person if they are healthy or not.

The other myth that bugs me is that everyone can be as skinny as a supermodel. Only a teeny percentage (like 1%) of women are built like supermodels, and yet that is the image held up for all women to achieve.

I'm not arguing with their beauty. They should be admired for their beauty and grace. But don't use them in ads to give the message that if you use that product, you will look like that. Some women never figure out that you have to work with the body you are given, but even worse, little kids are trying to make themselves look like that!

Ah yes, fat science, another myth I don't like.

The myth that boobies are inherently evil. :mad:

I cant believe I forgot the BIGGEST one!
And I can't believe someone actually said this:

"The Supreme Court can Rule that a Law is UnConstitutional and therefore, through Logical progression, we can then say that the Amendment itself may be UnConstitutional for the reasons prescibed in the Ruling that makes the Law UnConstitutional.

Regards,
Gaar"

:eek:

The myth that boobies are inherently evil. :mad:
Poor things have a bad name. Just because they have blue feet...[/poor pun]

That this world came to be as a matter of random combination atoms and energy in a random universe and that life somehow sprang into being from a primordial chemical soup.

The myth that boobies are inherently evil. :mad:
But they are! They are! Everytime I see a nice pair I start turning to stone! :D

I hate rumplestillskein. It MADE NO SENSE

that story about that guy who fell asleep for ten years after bowling with the gnomes was much cooler... if only i could remember the name..

That this world came to be as a matter of random combination atoms and energy in a random universe and that life somehow sprang into being from a primordial chemical soup.

better stick to actual myths if you dont want this thread to turn into a flame fest.

But they are! They are! Everytime I see a nice pair I start turning to stone! :D
You wanna get that checked out, you do... :eek:

That this world came to be as a matter of random combination atoms and energy in a random universe and that life somehow sprang into being from a primordial chemical soup.
I wont get into this, but how about the the one where some omnipresent, omniscient and benevolent being that always existed just chose to create the universe one day, then manipulated us like playthings for a while before disappearing from our horizons? :p

Grrr... I hate the myth that customer support places are actually helpful.
Really they just either do nothing whatsoever, give you a list of solutions you've already tried or tell you to phone a different area of the same company.

edit:Woo! 666th post! I am teh eeeeevil, so i am

I hate rumplestillskein. It MADE NO SENSE

that story about that guy who fell asleep for ten years after bowling with the gnomes was much cooler... if only i could remember the name..

Rip van Winkle?

better stick to actual myths if you dont want this thread to turn into a flame fest.

I consider this to be an actual myth, just of more recent origins.

I wont get into this, but how about the the one where some omnipresent, omniscient and benevolent being that always existed just chose to create the universe one day, then manipulated us like playthings for a while before disappearing from our horizons? :p

I don't believe in that one either, a least not the latter half... ;)

The Myth on nationstates or in real life myths?

The egotistical myth that humans are some how infinitely superior to all other lifeforms on the planet. I have no evidence to support such, infact, I see much evidence in human inferiority. What other species is trying so hard to kill itself off?

The egotistical myth that humans are some how infinitely superior to all other lifeforms on the planet. I have no evidence to support such, infact, I see much evidence in human inferiority. What other species is trying so hard to kill itself off?
Theoraticly(sp), given half a chance, all of them would. Only humans are able to adapt thier enviroment and overcome the 'controls' that keep other animals from doing the same thing, but they do all the things we do-we just do it better because we have thumbs. They deplete food stocks to levels too low to sustain themselves, fight over territory, fight over mating rights-all the baseline crap we do. The only real difference is we also have the capacity for abstract thought and 'reason' (I'll caveat that for you by putting it in quotes) so we aught to know better. Some do, some don't. Some oversimplfy the problem-most probably don't fully grasp the problem or how to fix it, which I would say is the most honest approach, but what do I know...

From a personal standpoint, I'd say the myth that you'll catch a cold if you go out in the morning with wet hair. Dammit, mothers of the world, we catch colds from other people who have colds, not wet hair! I don't need to dry my hair before I go out in the morning!

From a more abstract vantagepoint, I'd say that the argument that sex is by nature evil because it is lustful has gained mythic status, and it is equally foolhardy.

The urban ledgend of the old lady who used to dry her dog off in a warm oven, then got a microwave so tried to dry her dog in that.

I know of 2 seperate incidents where people have copied this in the UK, one with a yorkie terrier, one with a kitten. if they didnt haver this sick idea in their puny diseased minds, they wouldnt have copied it (although i accept that they might have found another way to be cruel)

Both parties were prosecuted BTW. Useless sentences, of course. And the Kitten lived, with an amputated leg and has a happy new home.

"Spare the rod and spoil the child." Children need two things besides the usual bread, board and clothes: to know that at least one adult loves them unconditionally, and to know that there us such a thing as unacceptable behavior with consequences for that behavior that will follow like night follows day. "Consequences" do not equal beatings.

Too true, and well put. Couldn't agree more.

I hate the myth that the French military is weak, as well as the one that the french didnt fight hard in ww2.

Rip van Winkle?
thats the one

God.

God.
GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD. That enough?

I hate the myth that the French military is weak, as well as the one that the french didnt fight hard in ww2.

It's not a myth.

did anyone else read that as "which Myrth do you dislike the most"? :p

i dislike angry Myrth myself ;)



if this has already been said (its pretty obvious), just ignore me...

Well, in Civilization it allows you to create Elephant units I think...
No, that's Chivalry, and that's only if you're the Indians.

While it's hard to pick just one, I'd go with this garbage about only using 10% of our brains.

did anyone else read that as "which Myrth do you dislike the most"? :p

i dislike angry Myrth myself ;)



if this has already been said (its pretty obvious), just ignore me...
I did!
I dont dislike any Myth (Folk Lore ones)i believe their are TAniwha's in the rivers and Thor will Smote you etc!

I am from California, and as everyone in the Milky Way galaxy know's EVERYONE in California is a pot-smoking, sandal-wearing, fingerpainting, designer-clothes-wearing, mexican-slave-owning, gay, weak, promiscuous, dumb-as-hell, hyphen-using, parent-leeching... well you get the picture.

This crap is not true!!! (except the part with the hyphens and mexican slaves ;) )

The myth that D&D causes people to kill themselves.
I still hear that sometimes
or the myth that the rulebooks for it contain actual incantations to stanic rites.

*That this were better in the olden days [The Golden Age myth].
oooooh, i hate that one, too. the Good 'Ol Days never existed, no matter how many porch-swinging old men try to tell you different!

The myth that ipv6 is really better than ipv4. And the myth that ipv6 will never really take off.

Sorry- Im a geek. I dont get out of the house much.

One thing that really gets to me, as I study medieval warfare as part of my course at uni, is the blind assumption that the Katana is the greatest sword ever made and eastern martial arts are supreme ways of fighting... so much better than the western knights who fought with all strength, no skill and blunt swords that weighed 20 pounds or more...


...its absolute lies at the best, propegated by hollywood, anime, japanese historians and others who should know better.


There are hundreds of western martial arts with records of them in medieval manuscripts, such as Lichtenauer, Fiore, Silver and Talhoffer which show that medieval europe was full of skilled swordsmen and martial artists...with swords that weighed on average the same as a Katana and were almost as good at cutting and better at thrusting than the Katana.

I would write more but just google western martial arts and learn something new!


Having studied some western martial arts, YES!

The myth that the media is Liberal.

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.

"Human-Generated-Global-Warming". Get past 101 level in Geology, and this one turns into the biggest POS hypothesis imaginable.

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
The myth that "myth" means "something that is a lie or falsehood but widely accepted as true."

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.

I've always thaught that the concept of original sin has a particular viciousness. You're born a sinner because you are born of Woman and we are Evil Creatures that must suffer. What a negative attitude! So we're all screwed from the word go? All because a man will eat anything a woman puts in front of him. Dumb, or what? Why should a faith that holds love as the highest principle go out of it's way to make you feel guilty for merely existing?

In fact the whole Christian creation myth is annoying because it is based on Hebrew Midrash but with all the interesting bits cut out. Adam's other wife, for example. It's also annoying that so many people believe it is true.

:confused:

From women that "Size doesn't matter".

Not that I've heard it of course.
*mumbles*concert hall*mumbles*

The myth that ipv6 is really better than ipv4. And the myth that ipv6 will never really take off.

Sorry- Im a geek. I dont get out of the house much.
But IP version 6 is better then 4 when trying to convey more addresses

(though overhead increases as you increase header sizes to incorporate the larger number)

Though it is going to suck memorizing my ip with the full IPV6 addy :D

If anyone is curious what we are talking about

http://www.auggy.mlnet.com/ibm/3376c216.html

I've always thaught that the concept of original sin has a particular viciousness. You're born a sinner because you are born of Woman and we are Evil Creatures that must suffer. What a negative attitude! So we're all screwed from the word go? All because a man will eat anything a woman puts in front of him. Dumb, or what? Why should a faith that holds love as the highest principle go out of it's way to make you feel guilty for merely existing?

In fact the whole Christian creation myth is annoying because it is based on Hebrew Midrash but with all the interesting bits cut out. Adam's other wife, for example. It's also annoying that so many people believe it is true.

:confused:
no argument here. apart from the confusing and self-contradictory message of that myth, it also is pretty boring (as Creation myths go). there are so many other myths that are more fun...if you're going to believe in one, why not pick something with a little kick to it?

What myth do I dislike the most? Hmm... Well, being a feminist, there are tons of myths I dislike. But the worst ones, I feel, are about rape.

The myth I hate the most is that women enjoy rape, and ask for it in the way they dress or act.

It really disgusts me. Nobody wants to be raped.

Here are some pages that correct other myths about rape:

http://www.rainn.org/statistics.html

http://www.survivingtothriving.org/factsandmyths

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html

http://www.dekalbrapecrisiscenter.org/display.asp?pageid=171&ms=42&ss=114&contentid=171

I am from California, and as everyone in the Milky Way galaxy know's EVERYONE in California is a pot-smoking, sandal-wearing, fingerpainting, designer-clothes-wearing, mexican-slave-owning, gay, weak, promiscuous, dumb-as-hell, hyphen-using, parent-leeching... well you get the picture.

This crap is not true!!! (except the part with the hyphens and mexican slaves ;) )
Or just can't wrap thier heads around how big and populous the state is. We are not "The O.C." Some of us go our entire lives without 'seeing someone famous in the grocery store.' That people don't realise the difference between San Francisco and L.A. or Sacramento, for that matter. On the other side of the country the same mass is divided up into a bunch of states-just because there is a bigger 'circle' drawn around us doesn't mean we're all what you see on "L.A. Law" (woo, there's a dated reference...)

I really hate it when people say we only use 10% of our brains. That one always ticks me off.

I'd have to say the whole Christian myth is the worst of all, as it is the one that has left the most destruction in its wake.

Or just can't wrap thier heads around how big and populous the state is. We are not "The O.C." Some of us go our entire lives without 'seeing someone famous in the grocery store.' That people don't realise the difference between San Francisco and L.A. or Sacramento, for that matter. On the other side of the country the same mass is divided up into a bunch of states-just because there is a bigger 'circle' drawn around us doesn't mean we're all what you see on "L.A. Law" (woo, there's a dated reference...)

Yeah, I know what you mean. I live and work in the greater Sacramento area, and I haven't been to San Francisco or Los Angeles in years. In fact, I wouldn't drive in either one of those cities on a bet and I wouldn't miss either one of them if I never saw them again. But it really annoys me when people from the East Coast or the mid-West seem to have this picture in their heads that all of California is just like either one of those two cities. It would be kind of like me (a Californian) assuming that all of New York state is exactly like NYC - kind of ridiculous when you think about it.

It's not a myth.

Want to provide that with any evidence?

But IP version 6 is better then 4 when trying to convey more addresses

(though overhead increases as you increase header sizes to incorporate the larger number)

Though it is going to suck memorizing my ip with the full IPV6 addy :D

If anyone is curious what we are talking about

http://www.auggy.mlnet.com/ibm/3376c216.html


I maintain that its a myth that more addresses are needed :-)

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.

That America is all sweetness and light and never has any ulterior motives. Ha!

Like the title says, what myth annoys you the most?

It can be a fairytale-type myth with a plot or a moral that you can't stand, or it can be an urban legend that gets under your skin, or it can be a nugget of "common knowledge" that ticks you off.
How about, "Hilary Duff deserves a Kid's Choice Award."?

That Saddam had WMD.

Beowulf. To christianized.

I maintain that its a myth that more addresses are needed :-)

Just like no computer would ever need more than 640K memory right?

The myth that the republicans are for small government.

http://alanchapman.org/libertyvault/gwb.html

Ditto. The Republicans seem to oppose big government only when it restricts things that could shatter your life (e.g firearms, not wearing seatbelts, corporate power).

The other myth that bugs me is that everyone can be as skinny as a supermodel. Only a teeny percentage (like 1%) of women are built like supermodels, and yet that is the image held up for all women to achieve.

I will add another myth that dispels that even 1% of these women exist:

I hate it when people think the pictures in fashion magazines are real and untouched. That is a myth. Most of the women in the pictures you see are skinny, sickly, and not even as thin as they look in the pictures: they are trimmed and airbrushed to look that way. Supermodels don't exist: there are just women who need to eat who allow their images to be skewed for public consumption.

If you watch a fashion show for most major designers, you can see just how few of their models even LOOK healthy as they walk down the runway. Their hair is a mess, they have ashen skin...not even makeup is hiding that stuff. My stomach turns every time I see that!

LADIES: Eat, drink, and be merry, because most people, men and women, don't want to sleep with a bag of coathangers!

Ge-Ren

That communism=soviet

The myth that humans only use x amount of their brain (1%, 5%, 10%...whatever the current myth says).

I hate the myth that the French military is weak, as well as the one that the french didnt fight hard in ww2.
The problem has never been the common military. The problem is that France's military leaders just suck unless they are a. Female, or b. Not really french. The french military itself is perfectly fine. And their political leaders just suck period.

I'd have to say the whole Christian myth is the worst of all, as it is the one that has left the most destruction in its wake.

I agree that its a pretty good myth. I like to sum Christianity up with: "A used car salesman born to a s*** fakes his own death" just to provoke certain people. (Hey- Im a Christian, I can do that, right?) But to say its the worst? Its only been around for 2000 some years, some other over-zellous religous nuts have been going at it much longer than that.

*** = lut

Just like no computer would ever need more than 640K memory right?

No. Just that we have the ability to find creative ways around the number of addresses out there. Private IP space (thanks to NAT and PAT) can easily cover all the users on the internet. If AOL wanted to, they could make all their users come from a single IP, for example. With virtual hosting, and a better SSL standard (ie- replace it with TLS) you can host vast ammounts of servers behind NAT as well. The rediculus idea that your toaster needs a publicly routable ip address is insane. Most likely the toaster manufactur has a flaw in its ip stack anway and you will want to protect it with a firewall. Why not NAT/PAT it at that point? Core routers on the internet also do not need to use the same address space as edge routers/servers. I would argue that they *shouldnt* have the same routeable space. They are just transit mechanisms for edge networks.

To validate your point though- at SOME point we would need more addresses. But that point is not going to be here for some time. Current estimates show we might run out of IP's in 2022. But estimates previous to this showed running out of IP's in 2007.

That is not to say we dont need IPv6 at all. IPv6 has many nice features, as it was designed for how we use IPv4 today, as opposed to IPv4 being designed before anyone even knew how global the Internet would become.

The myth that big ol' titties are somehow "sexualized" by our "culture" and not inherently objects of male desire. No: rail-thin models are an example of one culture sexualizing the non-sexual (and, in fact, repulsive). Tits, however, are timeless.

Just about every myth regarding New Jersey, most of which are centered around the belief that if you've stopped over at Newark airport or checked out the view from Manhattan, you've gotten the full picture of the state. Related to that, the myth that we all tuwok like people from Nouth Joisey supposedly tuwok (on the contrary, the south has a completely, utterly different, yet equally ridiculous accent).

The myth that however-so-many-people can't be wrong. Actually, the more people believe something, the more likely it is to be a myth.

The myth that the red states are somehow more authentically American than the blue; similarly the belief that the south/midwest is the "heartland" and that they have superior "values."

The myth that languages with a lot of punctuation, like Perl, are somehow harder on the eyes than ridiculously verbose languages like Python, and that their syntax consistitutes undesirable "line noise"

The myth that the 21st-century residents of the southern half of Great Britain have any sort of proprietary rights to the English language; similiarly, that "English" means "the language of the English people" rather than "a language spoken by hundreds of millions of people in dozens of countries, one of which is a small backwater island off the west coast of Eurasia." The former definition has not been applicable since the language began spreading around the world two centuries ago. It's the world's language now, get over yourselves. And stop saying stuff like 'spelt', this isn't 1600.

I really hate the myth that God is perfect, almighty, and all powerful.

I also hate any myth that implies that lobsters are a higher species than crabs.

And stop saying stuff like 'spelt', this isn't 1600.

Says the person who comes from a country that contains more archic words than the english have :p

The Puritans seeking Religous Freedom in America!

The myth that Bigfoot does not exist Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/suspects/61295)

My favorite myth is the one about six million Jews being killed in gas chambers.
I think it was called the Holohoax.
:rolleyes:

what a stupid thing to say, do you seriously think anyone will sympathise? :mad:


I also dislike the one with Icarus(sp?) flying into the sun....if he was so smart, doesnt he know heat would melt the wax?

wasn't it his dad that made him fly into the sun?

Says the person who comes from a country that contains more archic words than the english have :p

'Archic'? Is that some archaic Olde English worde? :D

What parts of American speech are considered (by the tiny-minority-of-english-speakers in england, apparently) to be 'archaic' anyway? And I'm talkin' language here, not units of measure ;)

Worst myth?

That the USSR was Communist.

Worst myth?

How about the so-called liberal media bias?

How about the so-called liberal media bias?


"What liberal media?" :p

'Archic'? Is that some archaic Olde English worde? :D

meh, typo.

What parts of American speech are considered (by the tiny-minority-of-english-speakers in england, apparently) to be 'archaic' anyway? And I'm talkin' language here, not units of measure ;)

I think skillet is one (and by archaic I just meant old),

Also I was told the American way of spelling colo[u]r etc and using z rather then s in words like 'capitaliz[/s]e' are also examples.

meh, typo.

I think skillet is one (and by archaic I just meant old),


I had to look up what a skillet was. I think Britons must hear only isolated examples of American speech from certain parts of the country, because this isn't the first time I've heard one claim that "Americans say such and such.." when, where I'm from, we say no such thing. North America is a big place, big enough for many different English dialects. (and where I live, my family, at least, have always said "frying pan"...)


Also I was told the American way of spelling colo[u]r etc and using z rather then s in words like 'capitaliz[/s]e' are also examples.

Those aren't archaic. By definition, something archaic has to be old-fashioned. The American spellings you cite are "updates" to the language, added deliberately by dictionary writers in the early 19th century to make spelling match up better with pronunciation (they never got beyond a few words, though). The British forms, older as they are, are more properly termed "archaic," regardless of what side of the language divide you're on.

"What myth do you dislike most?"

That there's intelligent life on NS General! :p

I had to look up what a skillet was. I think Britons must hear only isolated examples of American speech from certain parts of the country, because this isn't the first time I've heard one claim that "Americans say such and such.." when, where I'm from, we say no such thing. North America is a big place, big enough for many different English dialects. (and where I live, my family, at least, have always said "frying pan"...)

Well I was going to say that, but thought it needlessly pedantic (Immigrants from certain areas tended to emmigrate to the same places, eg Puritans were from East Anglia and all went to New England and influenced the dominant accent, which resulted in a wide range of accents. As an aside I seem to have a special power, in Britain at any rate, I can tell the difference between different American aceents beyond the Northen twang and Southern Drawl).


Those aren't archaic. By definition, something archaic has to be old-fashioned. The American spellings you cite are "updates" to the language, added deliberately by dictionary writers in the early 19th century to make spelling match up better with pronunciation (they never got beyond a few words, though). The British forms, older as they are, are more properly termed "archaic," regardless of what side of the language divide you're on.

Hmm interesting, my mistake.

While many common myths bother me, my pet peve is the myth that the holocaust was when the Nazis killed six million Jews. While six million is an accurate fairly acurate estimate for jewish deaths, estimates of total noncombatant deaths range up to twenty-six million including; Communists, Czechs, Greeks, Gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, mentally and physically handicapped, Poles, resistance fighters, Russians, Serbs, Socialists, Spanish Republicans, trade unionists, Ukrainians, Yugoslavians, and prisoners of war. Other targets of honest to god "we wan't your kind not to exhist anymore" genocide were; Gypsies, the disabled, gay men, and Jehovah's Whitnesses. I have nothing against the Jewish people and do not deny their victimisation or claim that they were not the main target of Nazi genocide, but the Nazis had plans for when they ran out of Jews, and I find the constant glossing over of twenty million deathss by my entire culture(yankee) more disturbing that the claims of a handfull of Neo-Nazi morons to whom no one should be listening in the first place.

Also, that people should ever trust leaders. That one has killed more people than any other meme in history.
:sniper:
:eek: :mp5: :D$
:mp5:
And I thought Beowulf sucked.

And stop saying stuff like 'spelt', this isn't 1600.
Oh? What's the more modern word for spelt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt)?