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Tell me.

assuming "God" creates everyone, then right when i was conceived

He really stuck it to me with this "original sin" load. Thanks a lot.

none, acyually. every time i think god has ket me down, i realize afterward it was for a reason. and im not one of those crazy ultra conservativ eliteral interpretation kill the muslims type christians either. im actually a veryliberal christian that views the bible as more of a philosophical doctrine of good.

what makes you think there is a God?

And even if there was what makes you think He has any impact on our daily lives? Perhaps His "onipentance" is just another lie amongst the church to comfort us but really God is just a struggeling blue collar just like the rest of us..

Your topic is vain in concept and a poor attempt at trolling, if I knew how to report you I would, but sense I don't I'll simply express just how stupid this entire topic is and hope that some part of you comes to the relization that insulting God doesn't make you cool and won't solve your problems.

And I should know, i practice the bad magicks..

what makes you think there is a God?

And even if there was what makes you think He has any impact on our daily lives? Perhaps His "onipentance" is just another lie amongst the church to comfort us but really God is just a struggeling blue collar just like the rest of us..

Your topic is vain in concept and a poor attempt at trolling, if I knew how to report you I would, but sense I don't I'll simply express just how stupid this entire topic is and hope that some part of you comes to the relization that insulting God doesn't make you cool and won't solve your problems.

And I should know, i practice the bad magicks..
I'm agnostic.

The only way god could let me down is by actually existing

The only way god could let me down is by actually existing
lol

He really stuck it to me with this "original sin" load. Thanks a lot.
no no, that was actually the early catholics church's doing. but that gets into a rather lengthy discussion that catholics usually hate to hear, despite the fact that it's true.

The only way god could let me down is by actually existing

Yeah, if God exists I am probably pretty well screwed.

This reminds me of the poster with the foot prints in the sand. You knoe the one that had God carrying the guy when times were bad. If God does let us down, its for a reason.

This reminds me of the poster with the foot prints in the sand. You knoe the one that had God carrying the guy when times were bad. If God does let us down, its for a reason.
He killed my Grandfather for I reason to I guess?

I'll try to do better in future.

Yeah, if God exists I am probably pretty well screwed.

I doubt it. If God exists, then consider that the tiny amount that you've influenced events in the entire space-time contiuum. You know - out of all the billions and billions of years, and you're only in this little place for a split second out of all that.

If the problems you create are that big of a deal to God, then yes you are screwed.

But I doubt that it's that important to a God who can create the Universe.

He killed my Grandfather for I reason to I guess?
no he didn't. sin did. when adam and eve let sin into the world, that did. not god. but god is working hard to exterminate sin.

I believe the more apt question would be "How many times have I let God down?"

I believe the more apt question would be "How many times have I let God down?"
How about both?

Tell me.

Only once. I really don't expect much from God.

Which is just as well, because He doesn't expect much from me. :D

But once, when I was a college freshman, I got picked up by several college jocks who proceeded to run with me spread-eagled toward a goalpost. I begged, 'please God, don't let them pole rack me!' But they did. Rammed me crotch-first into the pole after a running start. Then backed up and did it again. Ang again...and again. Until I convulsed out of their grip and they left me on the grass to convalesce. As I lay there in the grass, holding my poor abused buddies, I thought, 'My God has forsaken me.'

But I'm feeling much better now! :)

no he didn't. sin did. when adam and eve let sin into the world, that did. not god. but god is working hard to exterminate sin.

Well then, it seems that he's spent the best part of twenty thousand years working hard and getting nowhere. Still on the drawing board I presume? Still considering his options?

Only once. I really don't expect much from God.

Which is just as well, because He doesn't expect much from me. :D

But once, when I was a college freshman, I got picked up by several college jocks who proceeded to run with me spread-eagled toward a goalpost. I begged, 'please God, don't let them pole rack me!' But they did. Rammed me crotch-first into the pole after a running start. Then backed up and did it again. Ang again...and again. Until I convulsed out of their grip and they left me on the grass to convalesce. As I lay there in the grass, holding my poor abused buddies, I thought, 'My God has forsaken me.'

But I'm feeling much better now! :)
How very interesting. I'm glad your alright.

Yeah, if God exists I am probably pretty well screwed.
Personaly I think if there is a god he will be a bit more understanding ... specialy when we try to determine beleifs using the gifts he supposedly gave to us

(being agnostic I dont know but ...)

How very interesting. I'm glad your alright.

So am I. :)

Is that why your called "Lunatic Goofballs'?

He really stuck it to me with this "original sin" load. Thanks a lot.
Hear, hear.

Is that why your called "Lunatic Goofballs'?

Among other reasons. Humor is my life. I'm willing to go to enormous lengths to entertain myself and others. Unfortunately, I'm cursed with the ability to laugh at myself, even when I end up hurt I still laugh. It's as if I have an objective perspective of my own absurdity.

Among other reasons. Humor is my life. I'm willing to go to enormous lengths to entertain myself and others. Unfortunately, I'm cursed with the ability to laugh at myself, even when I end up hurt I still laugh. It's as if I have an objective perspective of my own absurdity.Your like my sister. Punching her makes her laugh even harder.

The only way god could let me down is by actually existing

:p :p

How many times has God let you down?
about as many times as the Easter Bunny has.

i think all the posters on NS are screwed if gods there

apart from jesussaves of-course, lets hear from the guy

i think all the posters on NS are screwed if gods there

apart from jesussaves of-course, lets hear from the guy
He's on vacation for a while.

I doubt it. If God exists, then consider that the tiny amount that you've influenced events in the entire space-time contiuum. You know - out of all the billions and billions of years, and you're only in this little place for a split second out of all that.

If the problems you create are that big of a deal to God, then yes you are screwed.

But I doubt that it's that important to a God who can create the Universe.

Unless God is the God of the Bible... in which case He very much does care about our beliefs and behavior.

that said, only God knows a person's heart, and only God can judge.

about as many times as the Easter Bunny has.
Millions of times then?

Your like my sister. Punching her makes her laugh even harder.

Possibly.

Possibly.
lol

Well if I blame God for all the bad crap that has happened in my life, then he's let me down a ton of times, including continually letting me down lately. But somehow I doubt that a god would really care about my romantic problems.

Millions of times then?
nah, only once each year...neither God nor the Easter Bunny seem able to remember that i hate the black jelly bean.

nah, only once each year...neither God nor the Easter Bunny seem able to remember that i hate the black jelly bean.

They remember. ;)

nah, only once each year...neither God nor the Easter Bunny seem able to remember that i hate the black jelly bean.
You too!!!

He also let me down one year by not remembering where he hid all the easter eggs ... because us kids forgot one and about a week later we were rather disapointed in him over the smell

It's people who think God has let them down that are the reason people can sue one another for such irresponsible, juvenile reasons. People refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions. It's disgusting. You wimps (you know who you are) give this self-destructive race a worse name than it already has...

It's people who think God has let them down that are the reason people an sue one another. People refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions. It's disgusting. You wimps (you know who you are) give this self-destructive race a worse name than it already has...
dare i ask you to provide some element of support for this interesting thesis of yours?

dare i ask you to provide some element of support for this interesting thesis of yours?

Apparently, you dare. :)

God apparently cast Adam and Eve out, leaving them to fend for themselves. We as a race fend for ourselves. If what we choose to do is a mistake, it's not God's fault. I don't blame God because I have trouble getting girlfriends, or a job (I don't believe in God, but that isn't the point).

That's true. My dad was recently sued. We lost 600million dollars to a guy's daughter. My father's nurse preformed unauthorized chemotheray on a patient and he died.

You know, if I'm a loser, it's MY fault! Not anybody else's. I'm not suing a community because I fell over in a cracked street and broke a bone.

That's true. My dad was recently sued. We lost 600million dollars to a guy's daughter. My father's nurse preformed unauthorized chemotheray on a patient and he died.

Exactly my point. It was OBVIOUSLY your father's fault.... :mad: I hate people who sue unreasonably....and WIN.


Not trying to insult your intelligence at all, but that was sarcasm. :)

That's true. My dad was recently sued. We lost 600million dollars to a guy's daughter. My father's nurse preformed unauthorized chemotheray on a patient and he died.

You never provided a link for that.

Do you think my father's lawsuit was fair, or not?

I hate sarcasm.

You never provided a link for that.
Why should I? Its embarassing enough. Its al over local news here.

Do you think my father's lawsuit was fair, or not?

I hate sarcasm.

Apologies. In all seriousness, I do not think your father's lawsuit was fair at all. I really really do hate people who think suing is the answer.

God let me down the one time I really need Him. I had reached a crisis in my faith 20 years ago and really needed Him to give me help. It didn't come and my faith fell by the wayside. Now organized religion makes me nauseated. I'm seriously considering switching to Buddhism.

Why should I? Its embarassing enough. Its al over local news here.

Because a $600 million lawsuit is completely unbelievable.

Apologies. In all seriousness, I do not think your father's lawsuit was fair at all. I really really do hate people who think suing is the answer.

I am in total agreement. The lawsuit is ectremly fribalouys and unfair.

Alos, although I beleive in God, I pretty much agree with Nog in the other areas. I know sin didnt kill my grandfather, smoking drinking and a bad heart killed him.

If anyone thought logically about god for just a few minutes, they would realise some things.

Firstly, as the original creator, ie there was, and is, nothing, at all, that exists, apart from god. If god was all there was, then his creations are just part of god. We, and everything else in the whole of the possible universe on all levels and planes are just part of god.

Following from this, there can be nothing, NOTHING, that is not part of god. No devil, no hell, no nothing that can possibly do or promote anything that is against gods will, or seperate from gods will.

As god is omnipotent, nothing in the universe can ever possibly happen that is against god's will- NOTHING CAN HAPPEN THAT IS AGAINST GOD'S WILL.

Furthermore, god, being all powerful, needs NOTHING- god does not need us to believe in us, he does not need us to be good, he does not need us to worship, or go to church, or to pray. These things may be for our own good, and they may well be beneficial, but god does not need us to do these things- if god wanted or needed anything, then god would be in want, or in need, and this cannot be possible, for god is GOD; if god wants something, then god has that thing, if god needs something, then god has that thing.

If you think that god has 'let you down', then you just don't understand god. This is your own failing, not god's.

Because a $600 million lawsuit is completely unbelievable.
He is being facetious

Either way, my point is valid, if still not in some people's interests.

He is being facetious
No, I am not.
It's on Channel 8 news. If you go to http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=Volker+Gressler&btnG=Searchand look at the 4th option that comes up and read what's under it, it says:
"... And doctor Volker Gressler, who owned the clinic, was driven by money - at
least that's what a jury decided in awarding a $600 million verdict against ..."

$600 million..... How can somebody sue for that much? It is just... wrong.

$600 million..... How can somebody sue for that much? It is just... wrong.
Actually, they sued for 30mill, but the jury gave them 600

$600 million..... How can somebody sue for that much? It is just... wrong.

The jury are the ones who decide the amount.

The jury are the ones who decide the amount.
And the jury is crap

why award an amount that much...its not like theyre ever going to get most of it

what makes you think there is a God?

And even if there was what makes you think He has any impact on our daily lives? Perhaps His "onipentance" is just another lie amongst the church to comfort us but really God is just a struggeling blue collar just like the rest of us..

Your topic is vain in concept and a poor attempt at trolling, if I knew how to report you I would, but sense I don't I'll simply express just how stupid this entire topic is and hope that some part of you comes to the relization that insulting God doesn't make you cool and won't solve your problems.

And I should know, i practice the bad magicks..
why is it every time someone decides to talk about God, they come under attack? this is really stupid. if u wanna talk about God, then post here. if u don't, then don't. I'm not gonna run after evry forum for atheists, muslims and witches teliing them they're idiots, so y do u guys do it to us. to answer the question, I've thought God has let me down many times, in fact i think He's doing it right now, but evry time there turns out to be a reason, and none of them would I have not experienced if I'd had the chance. so I've come to trust in His plan for me, and believe that He never has and never will let me down.

How many times has God let you down?
Tell me.
Since I have no expectations of god what-so-ever, I can honestly say I have never been disappointed.

why is it every time someone decides to talk about God, they come under attack? this is really stupid. if u wanna talk about God, then post here. if u don't, then don't. I'm not gonna run after evry forum for atheists, muslims and witches teliing them they're idiots, so y do u guys do it to us. to answer the question, I've thought God has let me down many times, in fact i think He's doing it right now, but evry time there turns out to be a reason, and none of them would I have not experienced if I'd had the chance. so I've come to trust in His plan for me, and believe that He never has and never will let me down.
Thank God I'm not one of the people on your list to hunt down.

If there is a god I've been let down more times than I can count and am mad and want to punch the douche in the face.

Do you think my father's lawsuit was fair, or not?

I hate sarcasm.
of course the lawsuit was fair. the guy DIED due to malpractice.

did the nurse go to jail?

of course the lawsuit was fair. the guy DIED due to malpractice.

did the nurse go to jail?


Fair eh? Two bullys once threw a boy off a bridge, knowing that he couldn't swim. He drowned. They were charged with manslaughter and not murder, because they 'only intended to throw him in, not kill him'. They got about 13 months. I would have had them killed.

Fair eh? Two bullys once threw a boy off a bridge, knowing that he couldn't swim. He drowned. They were charged with manslaughter and not murder, because they 'only intended to throw him in, not kill him'. They got about 13 months. I would have had them killed.

whats that got to do with this case?

The way human death is treated in the eyes of the law.

To be honest,

what's this case got to do with the actual forum anyway?? The reason the doctor paid was because a)he was vicariously liable for what his employee did whilst performing her duties, and b) he had the medical insurance, which is where the $600m would of been paid from. His premiums would have gone up, probably quite a lot, but then assuming that the nurse was truly negligent in her actions, and wasn't acting under his orders, he will be able to sue the nurse for that raise in premiums.

A Law student:)

no no, that was actually the early catholics church's doing. but that gets into a rather lengthy discussion that catholics usually hate to hear, despite the fact that it's true.

I'd love to hear that one, acutallyu, and yes I am Catholic.

God has never let me down. If anything, I've let him down.

Interesting...
Still an inconvenience though... :)

no he didn't. sin did. when adam and eve let sin into the world, that did. not god. but god is working hard to exterminate sin.

Hold up. Hes all powerful yet hes "working hard to exterminate sin"., interesting.


I doubt it. If God exists, then consider that the tiny amount that you've influenced events in the entire space-time contiuum. You know - out of all the billions and billions of years, and you're only in this little place for a split second out of all that.

If the problems you create are that big of a deal to God, then yes you are screwed.

But I doubt that it's that important to a God who can create the Universe.

I disagree. The smallest thing you do could effect the whole world. If I cough at the wrong moment and piss off the ambasador of Spain that could have huge ramifications through all of the future.

Actually, they sued for 30mill, but the jury gave them 600

I thought they weren't allowed to screen "The Verdict" during deliberations any more.

why is it every time someone decides to talk about God, they come under attack? this is really stupid. if u wanna talk about God, then post here. if u don't, then don't. I'm not gonna run after evry forum for atheists, muslims and witches teliing them they're idiots, so y do u guys do it to us. to answer the question, I've thought God has let me down many times, in fact i think He's doing it right now, but evry time there turns out to be a reason, and none of them would I have not experienced if I'd had the chance. so I've come to trust in His plan for me, and believe that He never has and never will let me down.

OYG!!111!! Did you just imply that God is a disappointment because He allows a dissenting athiest opinion to be aired in a forum?!?

I agree. Alexander's post is very ignorant. Ignorant and selfish.
God wouldn't be pleased!!


Hmm, I've done it now.... apologies for causing any great offence.

I thought they weren't allowed to screen "The Verdict" during deliberations any more.
What do you mean?