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Some people claim that god is female. Yet I've never seen any mention of god in the bible being a woman or that Adam (who was created in the image of god) was a woman ;)

So what do you think - is god (if "it" exists) male or female and if you think it is female, why do you think so?

God is not female. God's male. If god was female, the world would be a lot better. :rolleyes:

Ein Deutscher']Some people claim that god is female. Yet I've never seen any mention of god in the bible being a woman or that Adam (who was created in the image of god) was a woman ;)

So what do you think - is god (if "it" exists) male or female and if you think it is female, why do you think so?

I wouldn't take the bible as a source of ANYTHING gender-neutral, I mean, women are basically objects.

I don't believe in a god, but if I did it would be sexless. Maybe you should add that as an option in your poll?

Someone will post 'I'm male' soonish.




or possibly not now that I've said this.

God is neither, since we are made in his image.

Since we are male and female, it would stand to reason that so is God.

Shouldn't it be that they'll post I'm malish soon?

I'm male

I wouldn't take the bible as a source of ANYTHING gender-neutral, I mean, women are basically objects.

I don't believe in a god, but if I did it would be sexless. Maybe you should add that as an option in your poll?
God has never been mentioned as sexless (at least to my knowledge), thus I limited the poll to the 2 obvious choices. Sexless is the easy way out and would probably get a lot of clicks. Thus I left it out. I'd like to stick to the traditional choices which have their respective lobbies.

God is neither, since we are made in his image.

Since we are male and female, it would stand to reason that so is God.
Females (Eve) was created out of Adam, thus Eve is not made in the image of God. According to the Bible.

I'm male

We have a winner! (or loser as the case may be)


re. post #3.

Ein Deutscher']God has never been mentioned as sexless (at least to my knowledge), thus I limited the poll to the 2 obvious choices. Sexless is the easy way out and would probably get a lot of clicks. Thus I left it out. I'd like to stick to the traditional choices which have their respective lobbies.
your knowledge is woefully incomplete, if that is the case. God is referred to as genderless by numerous religious groups, and is referred to as both male and female by many others.

Ein Deutscher']God has never been mentioned as sexless (at least to my knowledge), thus I limited the poll to the 2 obvious choices. Sexless is the easy way out and would probably get a lot of clicks. Thus I left it out. I'd like to stick to the traditional choices which have their respective lobbies.

Well I asked Keruvalia, and apparently Allah is a gender-neutral term. So there. :p And most Hindus that I know would say that god is gender neutral too.

i thought we decided on these forums once that he was a giant chickenlike creature...

I'm specifically talking about the Christian version of god. Some religions have multiple gods, i.e. Hinduism, Daoism and others.

i thought we decided on these forums once that he was a giant chickenlike creature...
Thus why I limited the poll to people who think that god exists in the form that is being claimed by the Bible. There's no use in voting in this poll if you do not think god exists.

Ein Deutscher']I'm specifically talking about the Christian version of god. Some religions have multiple gods, i.e. Hinduism, Daoism and others.
Well, again, many Hindus consider their "gods" to be representations of one supreme being, like the Arya Samaj for instance.

Ein Deutscher']God has never been mentioned as sexless (at least to my knowledge), thus I limited the poll to the 2 obvious choices. Sexless is the easy way out and would probably get a lot of clicks. Thus I left it out. I'd like to stick to the traditional choices which have their respective lobbies.
I'm puzzled by this. If you stick to a literal interpretation of the Bible or the Koran, you're pretty much constrained to a male God. On a modern interpretation of paganism, you've got the Mother Goddess. But in eastern religions and less literal interpreations of western religions, you've either got both genders represented in God or neither.

Seems to me you're artificially limiting the parameters of the discussion.

Ein Deutscher']Thus why I limited the poll to people who think that god exists in the form that is being claimed by the Bible. There's no use in voting in this poll if you do not think god exists.
thus why i didnt vote ;)

but it is still a chicken like creature

Ein Deutscher']I'm specifically talking about the Christian version of god. Some religions have multiple gods, i.e. Hinduism, Daoism and others.
Or no gods at all in the case of Daoism.

God is not female. God's male. If god was female, the world would be a lot better. :rolleyes:
Uh huh. Right. If God were female she would get pissed off and destroy the universe once a month. Adam's member would have hung down to his knees, and the fig leaves would hve been designer. The universe would have to be completely rearranged at least once a year. All toilet seats would be permanently in the "down" position. Men would have been designed to be more sensitive and would cry over romantic movies. And the Bible would read like a romance novel. :D

Sorry to be picky on details...

But Taoists have gods? I don't recall reading much of anything about gods in the Tao Te Ching.

The Judaic/Christian God is male, but that's because the patriachal system used by Jews and Christian.

For the Eastern religions, God(s) can be male, female or even horrible nasty monsters (any sex). The Hindu Gods aren't fussy about their sexual orientation.

Asexual.

Though the bible references him as a Father. Lawful, yet caring.

In any decently run universe, women would not have periods. :p

To answer the question posed originally though, the Christian God is undoubtedly male.

Our Father who art in Heaven... all that sort of stuff.

The Judaic/Christian God is male, but that's because the patriachal system used by Jews and Christian.

For the Eastern religions, God(s) can be male, female or even horrible nasty monsters (any sex). The Hindu Gods aren't fussy about their sexual orientation.
I like Shiva, he likes getting high and dancing. :D

God is not female. God's male. If god was female, the world would be a lot better. :rolleyes:

Pfft, not true. God is more like a woman, but neither gender really applies to God. Anyone ever see Dogma?

God is not female. God's male. If god was female, the world would be a lot better. :rolleyes:

Pfft, not true. God is more like a woman, but neither gender really applies to God. Anyone ever see Dogma?

I like Shiva, he likes getting high and dancing. :D

It's interesting you mention Shiva. Shiva is "The Destroyer" and his female form is Yoni (among many other forms).

The Bible uses the word LORD a fair bit. LORD means destroyer as well.

In any decently run universe, women would not have periods. :p
Kinda make the race dwindle, wouldn't it??? :rolleyes:

Kinda make the race dwindle, wouldn't it??? :rolleyes:
I'm pretty sure she means that there'd be another way to do things. One that wasn't so messy and painful. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hell-holla
Pfft, not true. God is more like a woman, but neither gender really applies to God. Anyone ever see Dogma?

This is coming from a guy, isn't it? If you're talking about the movie with Matt Damon in it, alll I have to say is 'haha'.


Originally posted by Eutrusca
Kinda make the race dwindle, wouldn't it???

Actually that's not true. Women don't have to have periods to be able to concieve. In fact, the hormones in birth control cause many women to stop having periods.

Women don't have to have periods to be able to concieve. In fact, the hormones in birth control cause many women to stop having periods.
Umm ... whatever you say, Goddess. :D

We have a winner! (or loser as the case may be)


re. post #3.
yeah, I saw that post before I posted :p

I was just reading through this and it made me wonder:

"If God had a sex, who would he/she be having sex with?"

I've never heard of anyone having sex with God (Mary was supposedly a virgin when she gave birth, so no sex there, and I'm not talking greek gods as they had sex with everyone and her brother)

So, anyone?

Originally posted by Aretate
I was just reading through this and it made me wonder:

"If God had a sex, who would he/she be having sex with?"

I've never heard of anyone having sex with God (Mary was supposedly a virgin when she gave birth, so no sex there, and I'm not talking greek gods as they had sex with everyone and her brother)

So, anyone?


Mary Magdalene

So, anyone?


Mary Magdalene
The Pope?
(mmm, sacrelicious)

God would have to be genderless. If He made Adam in His image, and Adam was the only one of his kind...why would Adam need juevos? He wouldn't have had the specialized sex organs prior to the creation of Eve, because there would be no use for them, much the same as how neither he nor Eve would, logically, have had a belly-button. 'Course, I can't say I believe in either one of them, because their whole story reads more like a heavily summarized 'history of humanity,' rather than our literal origins. But that's another post for another time.

What defines a male, primarily, is whether or not one has juevos and a ding-a-ling. Call me crazy, but I doubt God's packing. He can certainly be masculine, but that doesn't make Him male, not in the normal sense.

As to the fact that God's called 'He' throughout the Bible, that's a very, very long book. 'She' would have been an extra letter every time they could've said 'He' (Captain Obvious, to the rescue!), and with all the references they make to God, it would've been a pain in the arse to re-write. Keep in mind, after all, that books were copied by hand back then. And, while 'It' would have been shortest and least confusing, certainly, 'It' is also very impersonal. It becomes difficult to think of God as a person, rather than a giant menacing force, if God is simply called 'It'. Thus, while 'He' may not be 100% accurate, it's the logical choice, as males were the ones with power, and females were subservient to them, if I remember right.

*shrug* S'not as though the gender makes a difference, though, so it's a bit trivial.

Originally posted by Energon
God would have to be genderless. If He made Adam in His image, and Adam was the only one of his kind...why would Adam need juevos? He wouldn't have had the specialized sex organs prior to the creation of Eve, because there would be no use for them, much the same as how neither he nor Eve would, logically, have had a belly-button. 'Course, I can't say I believe in either one of them, because their whole story reads more like a heavily summarized 'history of humanity,' rather than our literal origins. But that's another post for another time.

That doesn't make sense. Adam wouldn't have eggs. I'm thinking "in Adam's image" simply mean Eve was created for Adam. As for Eve being created, it's more likely for a male to be created from a female than vise versa. Remember? We all began life as a girl?

In Bible there two stories about the creation of humanity, both are different. In the first one Adam is created in the image of God, and then Eve is created from one of Adams rips. This means that Eve is in effect taken out of Adam, and thus the first Adam would necessarily have had to incorporate both the masculine and the feminine. Since such an Adam was created in the image of God, it must be concluded that God must be similar to the first Adam.
This story is follows by yet another creation story, in which Adam and Eve is both created simultaneously and in the image of God. Again God is both masculine and feminine.
My conclusion is thus that a literal reading of Genesis, would make the Christian God into a creature that was both masculine and feminine. There is of course other ways to read this story, one of them is to look at from a historical perspective (making God a man) and another is to look at what the names Adam and Eve really means (making Genesis into a highly allegorical story). But that is another debate altogether.

Now it is still true that God is primarily mentioned in masculine terms throughout the Bible, but this can easily be seen as titles describing functions. God is then called farther, because it describes God in the function of ruler rather than its position as the universal womb. This could also explain, why the original word behind the holy spirit is supposed to be a feminine word.
If I remember correctly, then it is also typical to see God and the Angels as being both masculine and feminine in Jewish literature. Something that would support the validity of my hypothesis.
Anyway I did not vote, since I did not agree with any of the options.

then Eve is created from one of Adams rips

:eek: :D

i thought we decided on these forums once that he was a giant chickenlike creature...

there's a thought god laid adam!!!

God is male (if he exists that is)

No way he is female, he is a vengeful male, why else would he be so harsh as to give females regular periods and the pains of childbirth?

God is male (if he exists that is)

No way he is female, he is a vengeful male, why else would he be so harsh as to give females regular periods and the pains of childbirth?
Meh. Women got multiple orgasms. Swings, roundabouts &c ....

God is neither, yet God is both. However, for simplicity sake, I will refer to God as he.
Now, yes Adam was made in the image of God, and Eve was made out of Adam, but when following the line, it would make sence that eve is still in the image of God. If she is out of Adam, who is made in the image of God, then eve would not have changed much from the image either, considering how well male and female pare up.

But then again, who is to say "made in the image of God" refers to the phisical in the first place? Perhaps it is refering to our ability to think for ourselves, to be able to make decisions on our own? When looking at the passages, there is nothing to say that God phisically manifested himself in any occasion other than in Jesus.

Granted the bible refers to God as "God the father", but one must remember the custom of the time, when all children were credited to the fathers line, never the mothers. It was the male who was the creator of the family line, thus "God the father"

Whatever God is, God must be ticked. Why else would reality television be allowed to be released?

Uh huh. Right. If God were female she would get pissed off and destroy the universe once a month. Adam's member would have hung down to his knees, and the fig leaves would hve been designer. The universe would have to be completely rearranged at least once a year. All toilet seats would be permanently in the "down" position. Men would have been designed to be more sensitive and would cry over romantic movies. And the Bible would read like a romance novel. :D

Nice. :)

Why just one god? This thread is ignorant, biased, and immature.

God is neither, yes God is both.

That's a [pathetic attempt at a] definite statement. You lose discussion.
You fail at life, thinking, and have no chance at attaining true meaning.

Get your ignorant ass off the site and the thread.

And quit capitalizing names of invisible bunny rabbits.

Male... continually referred to in Scripture as "He"

Male... continually referred to in Scripture as "He"

In Christian mythology, definitely, as it had to be skewed for Jesus/Mithra, as well as the male hierarchy.

In Jewish mythology, no. Yahweh is many things, as the Torah was a compilation work (a literal book of fairy tales and parables, if you will). In Bereshit it can be insinuated on some occasions that Yahweh is asexual. In others, hemaphroditic. But as a whole, yes, male, as that does go with the whole antiquated male social hierarchy.

As anyone noticed that Jesus kind of looks like Brad Pitt in that one movie?

Why would God have a gender? He doesn't need to reproduce.

If she is omnipotent, wouldn't it be both asexual and a hermaphrodite?

Why must we humans define God in our own limitations of gender? I thought God defines us?

I think that there is no specific gender to god. our language has an inherent male bias to pronoun, but characteristics of god (biblical) leave it up in the air. any attempt to anthopomophize is limiting.

I belive that God is neither male nor female. Yes in the Bible it dose refer to him as "He" alot but the Bible also states that God created Man (the temonolgy used as in race which includes both males and females) in his own image. I belive he took qualities of himself and divided them to show the difference of man and woman. As the the Bible using the term "He" males have been the domninant gender since the beginning therfore they probably wish to show God's dominance over his children.


I'd love to hear some good debatable statements so please telegram me at the Haewing. :)

Landis

God is neither, since we are made in his image.

Since we are male and female, it would stand to reason that so is God.
Gods a hemaphrodite?

:gets fire extinguisher:

Ein Deutscher']I'm specifically talking about the Christian version of god. Some religions have multiple gods, i.e. Hinduism, Daoism and others.
Daoism is a belief system, not a religion.

Whats the difference?
Daoism lacks deities.

God is above genders. refering to God as 'it' would be disrepectfull, therefore the masculine pronoun 'he' is generally used, the male-dominated heirarchy being an important factor.

Why not include "niether" in the poll? It would probably get more votes that male or female.

Okay, I voted female for several reasons:

1) God is the creator, which is, in nature the female's role. Man cannot create life, man can only create by destroying first (cutting down trees to make a house and such).
2) It would explain the mood swing. OT God is vengeful, and frankly, a bitch. (PMS). NT God is all about acceptance and love.
3) If God was male, the penis would have been a lot better designed... Also, if God is male, why did he load our asses with hair.
Re: 2) God lives forever, or at least billions of years, so who are we to say that the menstral cycle runs on months, maybe it runs on millenia for god, who knows.
Re: A previous comment)Someone said that if God was female, then Adam would have a huge penis. Frankly, I think you're being a little ignorant about what women want. Yes, some do get off on giant penises (why, I don't really know) but all the interesting stuff happens within the first few inches (or else girls would need giant hands to be able to masturbate).

There is no God.

If there was one, I'd say male.

I'm voting "Dude." The discussion in the "Death" thread, along with my own misconceptions, lead me to believe that God is a gigantic prick.

In Bible there two stories about the creation of humanity, both are different. In the first one Adam is created in the image of God, and then Eve is created from one of Adams rips. This means that Eve is in effect taken out of Adam, and thus the first Adam would necessarily have had to incorporate both the masculine and the feminine. Since such an Adam was created in the image of God, it must be concluded that God must be similar to the first Adam.
This story is follows by yet another creation story, in which Adam and Eve is both created simultaneously and in the image of God. Again God is both masculine and feminine.
My conclusion is thus that a literal reading of Genesis, would make the Christian God into a creature that was both masculine and feminine. There is of course other ways to read this story, one of them is to look at from a historical perspective (making God a man) and another is to look at what the names Adam and Eve really means (making Genesis into a highly allegorical story). But that is another debate altogether.

Now it is still true that God is primarily mentioned in masculine terms throughout the Bible, but this can easily be seen as titles describing functions. God is then called farther, because it describes God in the function of ruler rather than its position as the universal womb. This could also explain, why the original word behind the holy spirit is supposed to be a feminine word.
If I remember correctly, then it is also typical to see God and the Angels as being both masculine and feminine in Jewish literature. Something that would support the validity of my hypothesis.
Anyway I did not vote, since I did not agree with any of the options.

Very true - Genesis explicitly states, at one point, that male and female were created at the same time, and BOTH in 'his' image.

People cannot help writing from experience... people write what they know, and they colour their stories with their own perceptions.

Thus - the Bible, being written by men, referes to god as male.