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The Big Bang: Proof of God?

Pongoar
11-03-2005, 01:02
Does the Big Bang prove the existance of a Creator? Various Big Bang sites I've been to seem to suggest this. After all, without intelligent design, how could a singularity appear where there is no reality or space for it to exist in? According to my current level of understanding of particle physics (which isn't terribly good) a particle and an antiparticle are created at the event horizon and then annihilate eachother. Without a God, all the matter in the universe would have destroyed itself as it was created.
Norkshwaneesvik
11-03-2005, 01:07
I agree.
Mentholyptus
11-03-2005, 01:08
It's significantly more complicated than that. And no, I can't explain it, because I don't understand it. What I can say is: whichever Big Bang sites you've been visiting aren't very scientific, because no true scientist immediately reaches for some supernatural explanation just because a rational one isn't readily visible.
Nadkor
11-03-2005, 01:08
Does the Big Bang prove the existance of a Creator? Various Big Bang sites I've been to seem to suggest this. After all, without intelligent design, how could a singularity appear where there is no reality or space for it to exist in? According to my current level of understanding of particle physics (which isn't terribly good) a particle and an antiparticle are created at the event horizon and then annihilate eachother. Without a God, all the matter in the universe would have destroyed itself as it was created.
thats a large leap of logic by anybodys standards
LordRyugen
11-03-2005, 01:09
that may prove that there's a god, it doesn't prove that god created man.
and the reason man thought up god was because they couldn't explain why things worked the way they did...
Einsteinian Big-Heads
11-03-2005, 01:09
thats a large leap of logic by anybodys standards

You're right. I look at big bang meaning that science cannot disproove the existance of God
Pongoar
11-03-2005, 01:09
thats a large leap of logic by anybodys standards
Like I said, I don't know much about particle physics.
31
11-03-2005, 01:10
sure, why the hell not. . .what I want is for fried chicken to proove the existence of God!! Now that would be a neat trick, and damn tasty too!
Nadkor
11-03-2005, 01:12
You're right. I look at big bang meaning that science cannot disproove the existance of God
yea, thats pretty much what i would say...theres nothing in the big bang theory that i know of which instantly proves or disproves the existence of a god, and the two (big bang and god) arent mutually exclusive
Dakini
11-03-2005, 01:15
After all, without intelligent design, how could a singularity appear where there is no reality or space for it to exist in?
No measurable space or time, that doesn't mean that there necessarily wasn't.

According to my current level of understanding of particle physics (which isn't terribly good) a particle and an antiparticle are created at the event horizon and then annihilate eachother. Without a God, all the matter in the universe would have destroyed itself as it was created.
There is a slight matter/antimatter asymmetry, whereby for every million antimatter particles formed through pair creation, there are a million and one matter particles formed.

Any more "proof of god in the big bang"?
Bottle
11-03-2005, 01:19
You're right. I look at big bang meaning that science cannot disproove the existance of God
whether or not the Big Bang is an accurate theory, science will never be able to proove or disprove God. science can disprove particular myths, but the existence of a supernatural being is, clearly, out of the realm of science...science is the realm of the natural, after all.
Good Intent Gone Awry
11-03-2005, 01:22
I don't understand this desire to have science "prove" or "disprove" God. Whether you believe in God or not, you have to admit that any god in existence must be beyond our realm of reasoning. Otherwise, what kind of a god would it be, if a scientific theory (or fried chicken) could place its existence into question? I believe in one God, creator of heaven and earth, and He doesn't need science to show His existence. One of my favorite song lyrics (from DC Talk) is "my faith is the evidence of things unseen." Personally, I think the beauty of faith is that it can't be proven. If science can weaken my faith in a God responsible for our laws of science, then it was a pretty crappy faith to begin with.
Truitt
11-03-2005, 01:35
Wait, why not just wait to die and find out? If you don't open your eyes to anything but darkness, there is no god, and if you open your eyes to naked women (or men in some cases, ladies) then your in heaven, a lot of fat people waiting, porgatory (if you belive in that and can read my terrible spelling) or if it is really hot and you just so happen to be stabbed several times in the rear by an imp, your in Hell.

Simple.

As to the Big Bang, maybe our "laws" are not laws, but act as they do only in this part of the universe, as different weather patterns accure in different areas of the world.

That is just my five cents into this.