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I know I have asked this question a lot but I'm tired of trying to change my self for som broad who dosen't realy give a damn about me. help please

Find some broad who does give a damn about you.

Find some broad who does give a damn about you.
well that was easy. next question!

yeah. find a new broad.

Find some broad who does give a damn about you.

thanx for the sarcasm friend

yeah. find a new broad.
for some reason, you using the word "broad" seems odd to me.

See you got a plan.

I have.

I know I have asked this question a lot but I'm tired of trying to change my self for som broad who dosen't realy give a damn about me. help please

Points to consider:

1. A person isn't really going to care for you later if they don't care for you now. So changing your ass doesn't work.

2. A side note to women: If you're expecting him to change, you'll be better off playing the lottery. The odds are better.

thanx for the sarcasm friend
Actually it was partly serious. If the girl doesn't really care about you don't change for her, find someone who does care about you and it makes changing a bit worthwhile. Note that I said a bit. You can't go completely against your nature.

you twits. why is it every time I try to pose a serious question I always get a bunch of jokers like you lot

you twits. why is it every time I try to pose a serious question I always get a bunch of jokers like you lot
Karma?

1) Stop using the term "broad". Most women would rather be called "babe" or "bitch" than "broad".

2) Be friends first. Learn about them before you date them.

you twits. why is it every time I try to pose a serious question I always get a bunch of jokers like you lot
probably because this is how you react to joking. but it was actually fairly serious, the replies you got. if you have to change yourself to better suit some chick, then she doesn't actually like you for you. she likes who she wishes you were. move on.

you twits. why is it every time I try to pose a serious question I always get a bunch of jokers like you lot

Seriously.

1. You have to love yourself first. Enough to know that you're not going to change to make someone else happy.
2. Find a woman who loves herself - and who loves who you are.
3. Don't expect this woman to fall out of the sky right now.
4. The happier you really are, the more attractive you will appear. This cannot be faked, and women can smell the fake 100km away. So be truly happy on your own first.

Actually it was partly serious. If the girl doesn't really care about you don't change for her, find someone who does care about you and it makes changing a bit worthwhile. Note that I said a bit. You can't go completely against your nature.

I have yet to find a girl that realy cares for me even as a friend most of the time they just hang around because I know someone they like. or they need something that I have.( note that the last part of the post has nothing to do with sex or otherkinds of favors)

you dont HAVE a girl friend. you are in an relationship. either its good for you or it isnt. as you say, changing yourself isnt an option so you either find enough good in it to stay and put up with the downsides or you decide its not worth the trouble and break up

if its not good for you ITS NOT GOOD FOR YOU. just move on. you arent married, youve just gotten into a relationship with the wrong woman. MOVE ON.

I have yet to find a girl that realy cares for me even as a friend most of the time they just hang around because I know someone they like. or they need something that I have.( note that the last part of the post has nothing to do with sex or otherkinds of favors)
Well, keep trying. Eventually you'll find a woman who just clicks with you. Or maybe not, maybe you'll end up alone and bitter, but alone and bitter is guaranteed if you give up.

Twit here. Has someone already suggested changing girls? That's why I keep a spare in the trunk.

I have yet to find a girl that realy cares for me even as a friend most of the time they just hang around because I know someone they like. or they need something that I have.( note that the last part of the post has nothing to do with sex or otherkinds of favors)

I'll give you a hint.

Most young women don't know what they want yet. So trying to pin them down and make a choice is like trying to tie knots with live eels.

It doesn't work, and sometimes the eels bite.

I forgot to mention - women can smell desperation 100km away as well.

Stop chasing them, and stop thinking that you have to have one that "really cares for you". It's not like you can drop in to Harrod's and pick one up (well, maybe). You should care for yourself first, and find out what YOU like. Don't get caught up in romance until it's REAL. Until then, stop being so serious and have fun.

Is it posible to stop slaming me for one moment and give me a pice of sound advice?

and just for the record, it's pretty much impossible to have any kind of meaningful experience without changing yourself. that's part of being human. we change, we grow, we are never static, stasis is abhorred.

Well, keep trying. Eventually you'll find a woman who just clicks with you. Or maybe not, maybe you'll end up alone and bitter, but alone and bitter is guaranteed if you give up.
Not nessisarly ... if he only gives up women he has the other 47% of the population

you twits. why is it every time I try to pose a serious question I always get a bunch of jokers like you lot

Because it's a seriously stupid question. If you feel the need to go changing yourself just for a little poon, then you deserve whatever you get.

Also, referring to women as "broads" isn't exactly conducive to a free and decent exchange of ideas on a forum dominated by women.

That is all.

Is it posible to stop slaming me for one moment and give me a pice of sound advice?

Ok.

First, is this a girlfriend, or someone you wished was a girlfriend, or what?

Some details, and then some advice.

Is it posible to stop slaming me for one moment and give me a pice of sound advice?
is it possible for you to be a little less defensive and see advice for what it is? which is to say, none of this has been an egregious personal affront.

I'll give you a hint.

Most young women don't know what they want yet. So trying to pin them down and make a choice is like trying to tie knots with live eels.

It doesn't work, and sometimes the eels bite.

I forgot to mention - women can smell desperation 100km away as well.

Stop chasing them, and stop thinking that you have to have one that "really cares for you". It's not like you can drop in to Harrod's and pick one up (well, maybe). You should care for yourself first, and find out what YOU like. Don't get caught up in romance until it's REAL. Until then, stop being so serious and have fun.

I'm not being funny when I say that I have tied knots in a live eel and its not desperation its just that i find a girl that i like and i think she likes me but it always turns out that she's using me so I don't know what to do anymore

I know I have asked this question a lot but I'm tired of trying to change my self for som broad who dosen't realy give a damn about me. help pleaseChange girls. This is not sarcasm, or off-the-cuff guff. I'm serious. When it's the right girl, you don't have to change - and neither does she.

After that, learn to spell ("some" has that annoying "e" there at the end. really has two "L"s - really. doesn't isn't spelled "dosen't".)

Then, consider the fact that "broad" is probably not the best choice of nouns to use if you actually want to impress a woman.

note - author of this post happily married (to the same woman) for 25 1/2 years and counting

Is it posible to stop slaming me for one moment and give me a pice of sound advice?
You've been getting sound advice, mixed in with some wise-ass comments.

Ok.

First, is this a girlfriend, or someone you wished was a girlfriend, or what?

Some details, and then some advice.

it was some one that I realy liked and thought I loved and thought that she at least liked me but.....

You've been getting sound advice, mixed in with some wise-ass comments.
and wise-ass comments are really par for the course here. and hilarious. i mean seriously. there's some good stuff in this thread alone.

Is it posible to stop slaming me for one moment and give me a pice of sound advice?

Sure. Find a better girl. Or girls. (Referring to them as 'broads' probably doesn't help your chances, though.) If you're looking for a solid relationship, friendship is a good place to start - probably the only place. Go and do something you enjoy, and find a woman there who looks as if she too is enjoying herself. They're usually around somewhere, unless you have some really strange hobby, so don't give up. If you have a friendship before you try to make a lovematch out of it, then you know there's at least some things about you that she won't try to change. ;)
That's my two cents on this sound advice thing.

it was some one that I realy liked and thought I loved and thought that she at least liked me but.....

It's not love unless you both are in love. So, stop for a second and catch your breath.

You liked her. That's great.

In my experience, if a woman really likes you as a friend, you can tell - she won't make a secret of it, and you won't be "thinking" that she "at least" likes you.

Taking this a step further, if a woman really loves you, it's even more obvious. She won't make a secret of it, and you'll know it.

Anything else is wishful thinking (from the male perspective), or stalking (from the female perspective).

I will now give advice.

1. Stop trying to obtain a girlfriend.
2. Immerse yourself in your work, your school, your hobbies. If you don't have a hobby, find one.
3. Spend some time working out and discovering your own body (if you don't work out already).
4. Yes, you can still ask girls out - but don't treat any of it as something serious.
5. Do this for a few years. Eventually, you'll run across some that really like you for who you are, and maybe one that loves you.
6. Don't fake anything. That's why you have to spend time with yourself first - because you have to be sure of who you are before you try and share that with someone else.
7. Oh, and just because she says she loves you, or has sex with you, does not mean that she really loves you. There are better indicators that she actually loves you. So don't fall in love with the first woman you have sex with.

allow me to share something with you about my self: I am the meanest son of a bitch that ever walked springfeild I am quick to take offence to insults and I love a good fight most people hate me but thats ok because i hate them too. now tell me that I don't need to change please the girl that I like.

Sure. Find a better girl. Or girls. (Referring to them as 'broads' probably doesn't help your chances, though.) If you're looking for a solid relationship, friendship is a good place to start - probably the only place. Go and do something you enjoy, and find a woman there who looks as if she too is enjoying herself. They're usually around somewhere, unless you have some really strange hobby, so don't give up. If you have a friendship before you try to make a lovematch out of it, then you know there's at least some things about you that she won't try to change. ;)
That's my two cents on this sound advice thing.VERY sound advice

allow me to share something with you about my self: I am the meanest son of a bitch that ever walked springfeild I am quick to take offence to insults and I love a good fight most people hate me but thats ok because i hate them too. now tell me that I don't need to change please the girl that I like.

Can anybody spell chick-magnet?

seems like the consensus is

stop dating girls who want to change you. sure you dont know until youve invested some time in it that she's that kind of girl. its a learning process. youll get better at it

great relationships dont drop down from heaven. its going to take LOTS of dates to find a girl worth making a long term relationsip with. theres no way around that. it will take YEARS to find a girl who is good enough to marry (for example)

so quit wasting your time with girls who are obviously wrong for you. its what EVERYONE has to do. you arent the only one. stop expecting it to be easy, its not.

allow me to share something with you about my self: I am the meanest son of a bitch that ever walked springfeild I am quick to take offence to insults and I love a good fight most people hate me but thats ok because i hate them too. now tell me that I don't need to change please the girl that I like.

One again ... bad idea. Change for yourself, not for someone else. If you can't change for yourself, chances are that you don't really want to.

allow me to share something with you about my self: I am the meanest son of a bitch that ever walked springfeild I am quick to take offence to insults and I love a good fight most people hate me but thats ok because i hate them too. now tell me that I don't need to change please the girl that I like.

1. Sooner or later, you'll meet the man who will kick your ass. I certainly did in 1987.
2. You don't need to change to please the girl - you need to change to heal yourself.

You need to control the "will to power".

Can anybody spell chick-magnet?

the humor you found in my last statement eludes me and if I could see you i'd shoot you. :sniper:

1. Sooner or later, you'll meet the man who will kick your ass. I certainly did in 1987.
2. You don't need to change to please the girl - you need to change to heal yourself.

You need to control the "will to power".

I have met pleanty of people that can kick my ass but that dosent stop me from fighting. I respect some of the people that have beaten me but some just foce me to higher hights.

Black XIII: The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.

YFP: Ooooooh.

Black XIII: You just made the list, buddy. Also, I don't like no one touching my stuff. So just keep your meathooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. And I don't like nobody touching me. Any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.

YFP: Lighten up, Francis.

the humor you found in my last statement eludes me and if I could see you i'd shoot you. :sniper:
i think your biggest hurdle in the "getting" of one o them lady-types is that you take yourself waaay too seriously. people who can't laugh at themselves are usually dicks. but again, don't change that for a woman. change that out of a genuine want to better yourself.

I have met pleanty of people that can kick my ass but that dosent stop me from fighting. I respect some of the people that have beaten me but some just foce me to higher hights.

Then you should do what I did. I enlisted in the Army Infantry (the Marines will do just as well).

If you like fighting, there's plenty of it.

Black XIII: The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.

YFP: Ooooooh.

Black XIII: You just made the list, buddy. Also, I don't like no one touching my stuff. So just keep your meathooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. And I don't like nobody touching me. Any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.

YFP: Lighten up, Francis.


friend get a life

Van Gogh is the best. The best in my book. :)

Then you should do what I did. I enlisted in the Army Infantry (the Marines will do just as well).

If you like fighting, there's plenty of it.
I like my job to much to join the marines or army

Black XIII: The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.

YFP: Ooooooh.

Black XIII: You just made the list, buddy. Also, I don't like no one touching my stuff. So just keep your meathooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. And I don't like nobody touching me. Any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.

YFP: Lighten up, Francis.
That's a fact, Jack!

got to go see ya later

My wife, upon reading this thread, said, "He sounds like he's a woman beater. Fuckin' ignore him."

I like my job to much to join the marines or army

And what could possibly be more fun than being shipped to a random foreign country, where they give you cool shades, body armor, and a rifle, and you get to kill whoever is on the rules of engagement for the day?

Your job is that much fun? Or are you in the French Foreign Legion?

He is the tiny acorn that grows into the mighty oak. Talk about unlimited potential for growth.

My wife, upon reading this thread, said, "He sounds like he's a woman beater. Fuckin' ignore him."

Some chicks go for that Jake LaMotta, Stan Kowalski-type though.

the humor you found in my last statement eludes me and if I could see you i'd shoot you. :sniper:

You know, maybe you're just grumpy. Cheer up - happy people find dates a lot easier to get. (Unless you're Goth-ish, but that doesn't sound like the case.)

From the sound of it, it seems like you need to figure out yourself before you ever go searching for someone else. People who know who they are and why are a lot more attractive than those who don't - sooner or later everyone gets tired of that - and this snappishness you seem so proud of seems almost like you're covering something. I have to wonder why you're so hostile.
Of course, considering that, it doesn't surprise me that you have problems finding women. :rolleyes: No one likes a jackass.

Some chicks go for that Jake LaMotta, Stan Kowalski-type though.

Aye, but they generally don't stick around long. Frankly, I wouldn't trust the guy with my daughter.

allow me to share something with you about my self: I am the meanest son of a bitch that ever walked springfeild I am quick to take offence to insults and I love a good fight most people hate me but thats ok because i hate them too. now tell me that I don't need to change please the girl that I like.what you lack is not a girlfriend, but maturity. work on that - the other will follow.

No one likes a jackass.
speak for yourself.

speak for yourself.

Never mind then. Guess I was mistaken. :p I'll rephrase: most people don't like a jackass. There may be excpetions, but looking for the exceptions has to cut down on the possibilities.

Never mind then. Guess I was mistaken. :p I'll rephrase: most people don't like a jackass.
thank you. you just can't make these assumptions. plenty of people like ulikeable people.

thank you. you just can't make these assumptions. plenty of people like ulikeable people.

E.g., my mother.

You must discover your soul.

Travel to Tibet, and while there learn the native dialect. Then stand under a freezing cold waterfall for 6 hours. Then whip yourself on the back with leaves.
Incidentally, a bear will probably come, pick you up and fly to a magical world full of posessed dolls and dip you in hot marmite and then fire lard cannons at you.

Then the French will invade this place, but get pushed out by a guerilla resistance force led by a clown with a permanent erection. Then mike will get in a tank and invade Paris. Then acidic pink marmots will invade a rock formation and America will bomb Chile for some reason. Of course for this to happen the Legendary Army of the Empire of "L33T H4X0RS" would have to start pestering the Canadians with, "WTF I L33T J00 N00B,,,,,,,," and while distracting them and the UN with this tactic, will invade the Empire of Elderly ex-Librarians and sack ther capital, Oxfam..ia...All of this would NOT be possible without Venis, Mars, Jupiter, Vulcan and Pluto to be in exact alignment, and then of course the demon hordes and Linux terrorists will be in a position to invade the single most powerful that has control over the illegal hat and potatoe rackets.....ESTONIA!
Then with potatoes and hats under control, the demons and Linux terrorists will have the entire population at a HAT AND POTATOE FAMINE!!!! PEOPLE WILL BE CRAVING THEIR HATS AND POTATOES....but they will not get them, because the Beneficial Marmots +1 shall be hijacking the world's hat and potatoe stockpiles and positioning them at strategic locations in Cuba, thus starting the....CUBAN POTATOE AND SUBSIDUAL HAT CRISIS!!! Yes, the hats are a direct threat to American security and must be taken out! THOSE RED BASTARDS! DAMN THEM! Wait....that was our world!...YOU BLEW IT UP...DAMN YOU....WHAT was your exact degree of horniness at the time of the incident? Hmmm? OH? YOU WERE NOT HORNY....then you wouldn't mind if I just checked....YOUR HAT AND POTATOE PURCHASING LOG...EH? Oh wait, theres nothing in here...hold..on...I have to...go...to....er...lunch...yes.................................................................... ........................

GO LIGHTNING +1!! HAHAHA!

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You must discover your soul.

Travel to Tibet, and while there learn the native dialect. Then stand under a freezing cold waterfall for 6 hours. Then... ...stuff judiciously removed - see post above......The production of recycleable plastic button caps is maintained by the Mafia.....NEIN!!Ever read (or seen the movie) "The Razor's Edge"?

thank you. you just can't make these assumptions. plenty of people like ulikeable people.

I guess I just see a difference between unlikable and jackasses. I know I'm unlikable to some, sure - but I'm not.... how to say this.... Eh. I just think there's a difference between the unlikable and the outright hostile. Seeming to believe that no one and nothing justifies a change in plainly combative and unfriendly traits - and then attempting to imply that the fault lies with the other party - wait.... This isn't working; I just can't figure out how to say this without flaming someone or losing my argument in nonsense diplomatic gambits. I surrender. (For the moment.) ::bows to New Sancrosanctia::

I guess I just see a difference between unlikable and jackasses. I know I'm unlikable to some, sure - but I'm not.... how to say this.... Eh. I just think there's a difference between the unlikable and the outright hostile. Seeming to believe that no one and nothing justifies a change in plainly combative and unfriendly traits - and then attempting to imply that the fault lies with the other party - wait.... This isn't working; I just can't figure out how to say this without flaming someone or losing my argument in nonsense diplomatic gambits. I surrender. (For the moment.) ::bows to New Sancrosanctia::
don't surrender, i agree completely. that kid's an unappreciative douche. i was just fuckin around.

don't surrender, i agree completely. that kid's an unappreciative douche. i was just fuckin around.

Never sure with people on these forums.... there's some serious loonies. ::makes airplane noises and twirls in a circle:: :p

Ever read (or seen the movie) "The Razor's Edge"?

Sure. Now everybody's jumping on the "quote Bill Murray" bandwagon.

As a side note, having just realized the mortal danger in which I have placed myself, I feel it necessary to explain where the comedy lies in my earlier post ("Can anyone spell chick-magnet?" above).

While mainly intended as a legitimate comment on the root of this young gentleman's romantic problems (i.e., his violent, humorless, and belligerent outlook), it was also meant to poke a little fun at his god-awful spelling. For, as everyone knows, ladies love good grammarians. I should have realized that, being "violent, humorless, and belligerent," the poster would misinterpret the jibe and respond with a death threat.

How very silly of me.

Honestly, dude, sounds like you need to get your very own "Mr. Slave"

Honestly, dude, sounds like you need to get your very own "Mr. Slave"

Or a penis pump.

Or a penis pump.

Same thing... *coughs*

Ever read (or seen the movie) "The Razor's Edge"?

Hmmmm, no. What is it about?

Hmmmm, no. What is it about?Gack! Read it!

(This will not do Somerset Maugham or Bill Murray justice, but...WW I, the human condition, what we can do to improve our lives, what we cannot do, what love is/isn't, and, of course, what one can learn by hanging out in Tibet)

Sure. Now everybody's jumping on the "quote Bill Murray" bandwagon.Well...Somerset Maugham.

As a side note, having just realized the mortal danger in which I have placed myself, I feel it necessary to explain where the comedy lies in my earlier post ("Can anyone spell chick-magnet?" above).

While mainly intended as a legitimate comment on the root of this young gentleman's romantic problems (i.e., his violent, humorless, and belligerent outlook), it was also meant to poke a little fun at his god-awful spelling. For, as everyone knows, ladies love good grammarians. I should have realized that, being "violent, humorless, and belligerent," the poster would misinterpret the jibe and respond with a death threat.

How very silly of me.An excellent "funny" caught in a kind of "consider the source" dilemma.

An excellent "funny" caught in a kind of "consider the source" dilemma.

We're all probably on the hit list now - no one just told him that it was all the women's fault for not realizing what a wondrous mighty man they're missing in not falling all over him and making whatever changes are necessary to have a man such as he is. :p

We're all probably on the hit list now - no one just told him that it was all the women's fault for not realizing what a wondrous mighty man they're missing in not falling all over him and making whatever changes are necessary to have a man such as he is. :pHow could we be so callous?

Is he not back yet? I logged in late and missed him. :( And he seemed like such a nice young chap. :D

Seriously tho, i've met people like him before. Well, when i say "met" what i mean is "laughed at their vocabulary/spelling/attitude/taste in clothes/etc."

I agree with previous statements, this thread has been hilarious so far, so much so that i quoted a couple of posts in my sig. *points below*

Delicious. :D

You must discover your soul.

Travel to Tibet, and while there learn the native dialect. Then stand under a freezing cold waterfall for 6 hours. Then whip yourself on the back with leaves.
Incidentally, a bear will probably come, pick you up and fly to a magical world full of posessed dolls and dip you in hot marmite and then fire lard cannons at you.

Then the French will invade this place, but get pushed out by a guerilla resistance force led by a clown with a permanent erection. Then mike will get in a tank and invade Paris. Then acidic pink marmots will invade a rock formation and America will bomb Chile for some reason. Of course for this to happen the Legendary Army of the Empire of "L33T H4X0RS" would have to start pestering the Canadians with, "WTF I L33T J00 N00B,,,,,,,," and while distracting them and the UN with this tactic, will invade the Empire of Elderly ex-Librarians and sack ther capital, Oxfam..ia...All of this would NOT be possible without Venis, Mars, Jupiter, Vulcan and Pluto to be in exact alignment, and then of course the demon hordes and Linux terrorists will be in a position to invade the single most powerful that has control over the illegal hat and potatoe rackets.....ESTONIA!
Then with potatoes and hats under control, the demons and Linux terrorists will have the entire population at a HAT AND POTATOE FAMINE!!!! PEOPLE WILL BE CRAVING THEIR HATS AND POTATOES....but they will not get them, because the Beneficial Marmots +1 shall be hijacking the world's hat and potatoe stockpiles and positioning them at strategic locations in Cuba, thus starting the....CUBAN POTATOE AND SUBSIDUAL HAT CRISIS!!! Yes, the hats are a direct threat to American security and must be taken out! THOSE RED BASTARDS! DAMN THEM! Wait....that was our world!...YOU BLEW IT UP...DAMN YOU....WHAT was your exact degree of horniness at the time of the incident? Hmmm? OH? YOU WERE NOT HORNY....then you wouldn't mind if I just checked....YOUR HAT AND POTATOE PURCHASING LOG...EH? Oh wait, theres nothing in here...hold..on...I have to...go...to....er...lunch...yes.................................................................... ........................

GO LIGHTNING +1!! HAHAHA!

The production of recycleable plastic button caps is maintained by the Mafia.....NEIN!!

That was the most awsome story i have ever read. You should write a book! I would buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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