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distribution of land in communism: a question

Pure Metal
10-03-2005, 13:06
in communism, where the state - or, the people - own all the land, how do you decide who gets what land? ie. how is it decided who lives in which house?

goods and services are homogenous and can be distributed equally. houses and land are not so, vary greatly in terms of quality (of build, style, etc), and are also subject to the individual tastes of people.

one obvious way is to homogenise all houses (to be the same), but that sounds awful and a little too authoritarian for my tastses.

another way coule be everyone is equal in terms of goods & services distribution, but the harder/more unpleasant your job, or the more you produce, the better the house you get.

any thoughts?


ps: please lets not turn this into the usual 'capitalism vs communism' arguement. no flaming either - play nice :)
Kanabia
10-03-2005, 13:25
I think it's taken for granted that there will be differences in housing quality no matter what. For example, some people will have houses near the beach, that are more desirable than those in inland outer suburbs.

The most important thing is ensuring that no people are living in cardboard boxes or dilapidated shanty towns while others live in luxurious 30+ room mansions.
Psylos
10-03-2005, 13:27
The government rents houses. Those who have more money have the biggest houses and those who have less have the smaller ones.
Pure Metal
10-03-2005, 13:29
The government rents houses. Those who have more money have the biggest houses and those who have less have the smaller ones.
:confused: hardly equal, or not particularily communist...


lets say everyone is equal (nobody has more money than anyone else), so how do you divide up the houses then?
Kanabia
10-03-2005, 13:32
:confused: hardly equal, or not particularily communist...


lets say everyone is equal (nobody has more money than anyone else), so how do you divide up the houses then?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Psylos
10-03-2005, 13:33
:confused: hardly equal, or not particularily communist...


lets say everyone is equal (nobody has more money than anyone else), so how do you divide up the houses then?
I don't think communism is about suppressing money or about making everybody equal, just equal IN RIGHTS.
Kanabia
10-03-2005, 13:37
I don't think communism is about suppressing money or about making everybody equal, just equal IN RIGHTS.

That's probably a social-democratic point of view. Communism is about monetary equality.
Psylos
10-03-2005, 13:41
That's probably a social-democratic point of view. Communism is about monetary equality.
You are probably right.
Pure Metal
10-03-2005, 13:41
I don't think communism is about suppressing money or about making everybody equal, just equal IN RIGHTS.
uhoh this may turn into a 'what is communism' thread soon... :(

equality of rights is not necessarily communism - rights theories are irrespective of economic model (capitalism/communism). sure, it can be a communist ideal, but it can also be something held dear by capitalists, by right-wingers, by anyone. i mean, we're supposed to be equal in rights here in the UK and EU (no discrimination, etc) but we're not communist :confused:


communism, to me, is about the equal and FAIR (Rawls) distribution of resources


"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
i've never understood the message of that :(
(yeah, i'm stupid ;) )
Kanabia
10-03-2005, 13:46
i've never understood the message of that :(
(yeah, i'm stupid ;) )

You give what you can to society, and society rewards you by leaving you free from need. :)

(eg. In the context of this thread, if you have a large family, you get given a bigger house.)
Pure Metal
10-03-2005, 13:55
You give what you can to society, and society rewards you by leaving you free from need. :)

(eg. In the context of this thread, if you have a large family, you get given a bigger house.)
ahhh... i don't know why thats never made sense. i always thought it was more of a 'distribution according to your ability/merits' sort of thing - ie capitalism.
much prefer its new meaning :)
Kanabia
10-03-2005, 13:56
ahhh... i don't know why thats never made sense. i always thought it was more of a 'distribution according to your ability/merits' sort of thing - ie capitalism.
much prefer its new meaning :)

Woohoo, a convert. :p
Anarchic Conceptions
10-03-2005, 13:59
Woohoo, a convert. :p
Anarchists are gradually gainint plularity on NS general :p
Psylos
10-03-2005, 14:05
equality of rights is not necessarily communism - rights theories are irrespective of economic model (capitalism/communism). sure, it can be a communist ideal, but it can also be something held dear by capitalists, by right-wingers, by anyone. i mean, we're supposed to be equal in rights here in the UK and EU (no discrimination, etc) but we're not communist :confused:
I believe in capitalism everybody is not born equal. Some are rich and don't need to work, just to rent their capital. Some are poor and have to work.
I have no problem with money so long as it comes from work.
Kanabia
10-03-2005, 14:08
Anarchists are gradually gainint plularity on NS general :p

First NS, then the world. ^_^