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Well, I've been on this forum for a few months, and I've gone through some changes. So, I decided to take the Political Compass test again, and this is what I got.

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -10.00

I was astonished. I knew I would still be very far left, but I didn't think I'd be full-on left for Social issues. Wow.

Anyway, post your "scores", and see where everybody stands.

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62

edit: my 1984th post showing an opposition to authoritarianism. appropriate

edit: my 1984th post showing an opposition to authoritarianism. appropriate
Not really - the economic left embraces gov't control (authority) of the economy.

Economic Left/Right: 4.50
Social Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.88

Not really - the economic left embraces gov't control (authority) of the economy.

on the social (libertarian\authoritarian) scale is what im saying

Not really - the economic left embraces gov't control (authority) of the economy.

not necessarily

Supposidly I'm:
-7.50
-4.00

Who knew.

not necessarily


Exactly. I embrace many laws against corporate bullshit, plus certain trade control laws (barring companies to import vast amounts of cheap materials, thus fucking key industries in the process).

I don't embrace a centralized economy like the U.S.S.R. had. That would be terrible... Although I do think that the government should have a hold on utilities.

(3.23,3.14)

JANUARY (2004)

Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

SEPTEMBER (2004)

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.46

NOW

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.08

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

Oh God, I've moved 2 points to the right

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62

edit: my 1984th post showing an opposition to authoritarianism. appropriate
lol :p


Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26

not sure where i was last time - think i'm less left now :eek: i was about 8 or something before... oh god no...

Well, I've been on this forum for a few months, and I've gone through some changes. So, I decided to take the Political Compass test again, and this is what I got.

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -10.00

I was astonished. I knew I would still be very far left, but I didn't think I'd be full-on left for Social issues. Wow.

Anyway, post your "scores", and see where everybody stands.

Where is this test?

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

Weird, I thought I was more of a free-marketeer...

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/index.php

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.13

Every time I take this test I get more libertarian and farther left.

Sept 2004
-7.12 Eco
-5.54 Soc

Jan 2005
-8.00 Eco
-6.77 Soc

Mar 2005
-8.88 Eco
-7.54 Soc

It's called enlightenment. :D

Every time I take this test I get more libertarian and farther left.

Sept 2004
-7.12 Eco
-5.54 Soc

Jan 2005
-8.00 Eco
-6.77 Soc

Mar 2005
-8.88 Eco
-7.54 Soc

It's called enlightenment. :D


Damn right, and you know it!

I'm like Nelson Mandela (ish)... Econ: -6.50 Lib: -2.82

Econimic: Between -6.55 and -8.00
Social: -9.44
I'm improving though.

I'm like Nelson Mandela (ish)... Econ: -6.50 Lib: -2.82

wow and in this company I look conservatively liberal.... just goes to show you how restricted the US dem/repub, consev/liberal dichotomy is... and explains my obsession with reading about/figuring out dictor strategies as much as evaluating what I think about their politics...

Here's the chart that someone compiled a ways back!

:D

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg

Me:
Economic Left/Right: -.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I am kinda Gandhi/Mandella-ish

Compared to some of you, I'm not as liberal as I thought I was.

Hmm, they're in my sig. I've moved slightly further left too.

Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.54

Nice, Preebles!

You too, Potaria . :cool:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Libertarian Left.

I almost always end-up at the same number:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.95

I keep wishing they put a neutral position in as well. I feel neutral on many of those things.

-9.75, -9.18 (it's in my signature). What astonishes me is that I'm further left economically than socially. I'd describe myself as a economically moderate and strongly liberal, but it appears I'm right down in the commie corner. :D

Am I the only who thinks that there are numerous problems with that test?

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49

I am quite statisfied with this, although there is room for improvement.

Just so I don't assume anything,...

Is there a person here with an extreme left rating, but also has read extensively into economics?...By the way, I'm not talking about a few books with biases; I'm talking about a variety of books that have completely different perspectives.

I've been given the impression that extreme lefties just don't look in to that or atleast it's not a common thing. Am I just meeting the wrong people or is there more truth to that?

Close to Gandhi and Nelson Mandela: (economic) -6.38 (social) -1.85

basically, Centrist

Just so I don't assume anything,...

Is there a person here with an extreme left rating, but also has read extensively into economics?

depends on what you mean by 'extensively'. i can claim 'widely' at the very least.

Just so I don't assume anything,...

Is there a person here with an extreme left rating, but also has read extensively into economics?...By the way, I'm not talking about a few books with biases; I'm talking about a variety of books that have completely different perspectives.

I've been given the impression that extreme lefties just don't look in to that or atleast it's not a common thing. Am I just meeting the wrong people or is there more truth to that?

Thats true of every ideology. People like to pick up books (and watch programs) that agree with their beleifs. How many times have I heard a Bush supporter recoil at the very thought of watching Farenheit 9/11? How many times have I heard a liberal swearing he would never watch O'Riley or listen to Sean Hannity? How many times have I heard a conservative swear he would never listen to "that crap" when reffering to Air America? Or heard a liberal say the same thing when reffering to Fox news? How many conservatives would pick up Al Franken's book? How many liberals would pick up Rush Limbaugh's?

Thats how people are. They want to hear and see things that support their beliefs, not things that might challenge them. It is difficult to find partisan people who read both sides of any ideology.

To answer your question, yes I have read plenty of material on economics from both sides and I am a communist. But I am an exception, as are you for reading material from both sides on an issue you are already decided on.

Is there a person here with an extreme left rating, but also has read extensively into economics?...By the way, I'm not talking about a few books with biases; I'm talking about a variety of books that have completely different perspectives.

I am doing (though more "planning to do", as time doesn't always permit) some reading, yes.

Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.33

Thats true of every ideology. People like to pick up books (and watch programs) that agree with their beleifs. How many times have I heard a Bush supporter recoil at the very thought of watching Farenheit 9/11?

Bush has never appealed to me...far, far, before his presidency. Although I don't really care to pay for that movie, when he's political stance and behaviors are enough for my eyes.

How many times have I heard a liberal swearing he would never watch O'Riley or listen to Sean Hannity?

I've watched O'Rilley. I would say it's entertain for a while...but I don't take it with utter seriousness.

Thats how people are. They want to hear and see things that support their beliefs, not things that might challenge them. It is difficult to find partisan people who read both sides of any ideology.

Right now I'm reading 'Industrial Revolution', opposing viewpoints. Good read.

To answer your question, yes I have read plenty of material on economics from both sides and I am a communist. But I am an exception, as are you for reading material from both sides on an issue you are already decided on.

"Those who do not know their opponent's arguements do no completely understand their own."

Ah, Preebles and Kanabia --- Very good company.

So, how's da weather in Australia?

So, how's da weather in Australia?

Pretty cruddy, actually. It's not supposed to rain this time of year. :(

That sucks. It was about 73 this afternoon, so I decided to ride my bike.

That turned out to be somewhat of a disaster, though. The wind really began to pick up, and it made it extremely difficult to pedal. I've gained plenty of muscle mass in my legs, though.

As centrist as you can get.

Economic Left/Right:-0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.25

Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

Pretty cruddy, actually. It's not supposed to rain this time of year. :(
Kanabia, wake up! We're in MELBOURNE! It rains every day! :p

Economic Left/Right: 5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.90

Thats about where I thought I would be.

Update...

Economic Left/Right: 6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.21

Uh oh, close to that evil right wing conspiracy

Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

I've been given the impression that extreme lefties just don't look in to that or atleast it's not a common thing. Am I just meeting the wrong people or is there more truth to that?
I agree. Most extreme leftists are very vague about their economic proposals.


Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -10.00

I was astonished. I knew I would still be very far left, but I didn't think I'd be full-on left for Social issues. Wow.
I've never seen anyone get such an extreme social issues score. And BTW, you are full-on Libertarian on social issues, not left. Left-wing is a purely economic measure.

My political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

looks about normal for here...

Kanabia, wake up! We're in MELBOURNE! It rains every day! :p

Heheh! True.

Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00


I agree. Most extreme leftists are very vague about their economic proposals.


I've never seen anyone get such an extreme social issues score. And BTW, you are full-on Libertarian on social issues, not left. Left-wing is a purely economic measure.


Yeah, that's what I meant. I should have phrased it better, though.

E: -5.88
S: -5.28

I retook the test:
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

I don't remember the score I placed in my sig, but I do know that my ratings fluxuate from day to day, but my economic score has shifted slightly to the right since joining, but who knows how it compares today.

Edit: Jesus, I got more authoritarian and economically left since the last time I took it.

I don't remember the score I placed in my sig, but I do know that my ratings fluxuate from day to day, but my economic score has shifted slightly to the right since joining, but who knows how it compares today.

Edit: Jesus, I got more authoritarian and economically left since the last time I took it.

That's about what I expect out of you flip-flopping bongheaded moral relativist hippies. Sure, you can make a pipe out of an apple in under fifteen seconds, but you don't know right from wrong or up from down. Next week, you'll probably be pro-bigamy.

Wow, the first misinformed troll in this topic!

I thought it'd happen a lot sooner.

That's about what I expect out of you flip-flopping bongheaded moral relativist hippies. Sure, you can make a pipe out of an apple in under fifteen seconds, but you don't know right from wrong or up from down. Next week, you'll probably be pro-bigamy.

Oh my god, you're right. Just the other day I was thinking, well if queers can marry, why not let bigamists? I mean if they want to go to hell why should I try to stop them.

WHAT AM I BECOMING??!!!

Wow, the first misinformed troll in this topic!

I thought it'd happen a lot sooner.

Now hold them horses just a second. Just because VO is a little bit of a long-hair and has a few beliefs normal folk might find a bit wrong-headed, there's no need for that kind of language.

Economic Left/Right: -3.19
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.45

-8.60 economic
-10.00 social

fascist/liberal 6.68
liberal/conservative -7.85

Now hold them horses just a second. Just because VO is a little bit of a long-hair and has a few beliefs normal folk might find a bit wrong-headed, there's no need for that kind of language.

No shit, there are some intolerant people on this forum aren't there?

Now hold them horses just a second. Just because VO is a little bit of a long-hair and has a few beliefs normal folk might find a bit wrong-headed, there's no need for that kind of language.


I think you've had enough of those 'shrooms...

-8.60 economic
-10.00 social


My friend, my equal!

My brother!!

looky at my sigy

Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.03

Yeah, that's what I meant. I should have phrased it better, though.
Why do people use "left-wing" to describe both economics and social stances? What relation does socialist economics have with libertarian social ideas?

Economic Left/Right: -0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.46

Why do people use "left-wing" to describe both economics and social stances? What relation does socialist economics have with libertarian social ideas?


Not much, that's for sure. If you wanna know why I originally phrased it so vaguely, though, it's because I hadn't eaten all day. I was hallucinating (not much, but I was), plus I felt quite queezy.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08

....which puts me about even with the Dali Lama...

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.72

Why do people use "left-wing" to describe both economics and social stances? What relation does socialist economics have with libertarian social ideas?

Even though I agree with you, one major relationship between the two is in property rights. Much of libertarian thought revolves around the idea of property rights, and socialism does not respect property rights.

I have a problem with a few questions in the test which leads me to question the accuracy of the whole thing. Here are some of those questions:

The following questions are problematic:

Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism.

That question should not be included in the test because the answer will vary depending on where the person lives. If I live in the US and am subject to the Patriot Act I might answer strongly agree, whereas if I were living in Australia and had the exact same political views I might answer no because this isnt happening in Australia. The presence of this question is troubling because of the implication that this test is only valid if you are from a specific country.

A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.

This question should not be included because it is a statement of fact, not opinion. Any intelligent person would answer strongly agree to this question, but it does not mean that they preffer a one-party state. It only means they recognize the fact that this is the advantage of a one-party state. They may also believe that the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages.

It's fine for society to be open about sex, but these days it's going too far.

This is another one of those culturally biased questions. The same person taking this test while living in the US is likely to answer differently than if they took it while living in Saudi Arabia.

Economic Left/Right: 9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51

Libertarian right. I was surprised at how un-libertarian my social score was, actually. I feel I take a "legalize everything" stance, bar only theft, assault and fraud. I expected to be right in the bottom right hand corner.

Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44

Money is power, and if too much money is too poorly distributed, the freedom of the people is at risk.

A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.

This question should not be included because it is a statement of fact, not opinion. Any intelligent person would answer strongly agree to this question, but it does not mean that they preffer a one-party state. It only means they recognize the fact that this is the advantage of a one-party state. They may also believe that the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages.

I had exactly the same reaction to that question. Initially, I did the "Well, duh" thing. Then I assumed that the question was badly written and should have been more like: "A one-party state is advantageous because . . ." [which would imply advantage compared to a multi-party democracy.]

This doesn't get around the other two issues, though I guess it would serve to zero out the scale to the nation. So the Saudi who says sex goes too far in Saudi Arabia is right compared to his countrymen, as is the American who says sex goes too far here.

EDIT: Though this makes it strange that the compass includes milestone figures like Mandela or Gandhi or GWB because it implies a cross-cultural scale.

Not much, that's for sure. If you wanna know why I originally phrased it so vaguely, though, it's because I hadn't eaten all day. I was hallucinating (not much, but I was), plus I felt quite queezy.
Come on, it was the drugs. It's OK. You can tell me.

Come on, it was the drugs. It's OK. You can tell me.

Drugs are good :D At least half the world's drug related money laundering goes through my country

Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00
You realize you've just swung a point or more to the right?



I agree. Most extreme leftists are very vague about their economic proposals.

I would be very interested in anyone whom would explain to me the dynamics of an a efficient Communist economy. Not one now, because it seems that most Communist say it doesn't exist, yet...I would just would like to hear what they think is credibly possible.

Banks or lack of banks?

How does one gauge demand accurately in said economy?

Whom makes these choices specifically...? Please don't say the people...cause that's a very broad word. Specifically who or how?

There are no incentive, other than helping your fellow man...? Do you think it's possible in a world where there's capitalism or self-interest?

How do you deal with other countries? Do you have any form of trade with them or are you isolated?

Please add to this. Links are welcomed.

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 2.50

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62

And proud of it

I agree with what was said about some of those questions. The on on the one party state especially. That one seems to be trying to make u seem more left wing

I would be very interested in anyone whom would explain to me the dynamics of an a efficient Communist economy. Not one now, because it seems that most Communist say it doesn't exist, yet...I would just would like to hear what they think is credibly possible.

Banks or lack of banks?

How does one gauge demand accurately in said economy?

Whom makes these choices specifically...? Please don't say the people...cause that's a very broad word. Specifically who or how?

There are no incentive, other than helping your fellow man...? Do you think it's possible in a world where there's capitalism or self-interest?

How do you deal with other countries? Do you have any form of trade with them or are you isolated?

Please add to this. Links are welcomed.

AnarchyeL made an argument for Market Socialism one time on here. It apparently capitalism where the corporate level is owned and maintained be the government. It maintains the profit drive by making the companies trade on a market system and setting profit requirements.

AnarchyeL did a much better job explaining that I did, but I am still very skeptical of the system and would much rather stick with a regulated capitalism.

You realize you've just swung a point or more to the right?
Yes, but I haven't updated the chart in a while.

I've also become more socially libertarian! w00t!

You realize you've just swung a point or more to the right?





I would be very interested in anyone whom would explain to me the dynamics of an a efficient Communist economy. Not one now, because it seems that most Communist say it doesn't exist, yet...I would just would like to hear what they think is credibly possible.

Banks or lack of banks?

How does one gauge demand accurately in said economy?

Whom makes these choices specifically...? Please don't say the people...cause that's a very broad word. Specifically who or how?

There are no incentive, other than helping your fellow man...? Do you think it's possible in a world where there's capitalism or self-interest?

How do you deal with other countries? Do you have any form of trade with them or are you isolated?

Please add to this. Links are welcomed.


That is a very broad and very good question, but way beyond the scope of this thread. Start another thread and Ill contribute (as Im sure will others)