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So, where do you lean, toward the left or right? Or are you a centrist?

Strange that I just asked exactly the same question in a non-public poll.

Regular Leftist. No fries please.

So, where do you lean, toward the left or right? Or are you a centrist?
*quotes Badnarik.org*
The traditional left-right spectrum is one that political scholars have recognized is incomplete for some time. In fact, it's really only useful for tracking the answer to one question: "What part of your life do you think government should control?"

Strange that I just asked exactly the same question in a non-public poll.

Far left-wing.

I know, that's why I made a public one. ;)

*quotes Badnarik.org*
The traditional left-right spectrum is one that political scholars have recognized is incomplete for some time. In fact, it's really only useful for tracking the answer to one question: "What part of your life do you think government should control?"

It amuses me that someone quotes his website after I just used his book to get the exact wording of an amendment, since it was right in front of me anyway.

According to the Political Compass, I'm Ultra-Leftist.

-9.81 on Social Issues
-7.54 (I think) on Economic Issues (though they don't exactly have enough questions for this part. I believe in free enterprise, but with protection)

Is this on eocnomic or social issues?

Is this on eocnomic or social issues?

Both.

Both.

Should libertarians vote "centrist" then?

Should libertarians vote "centrist" then?

Hmmm...sure, probably.

pretty much a socialist and a social libertarian.

The last time I took the Political Compass I was around -7 in both, but that was a while ago and I did a lot of reading recently.

Actually, I lean forwards.

I answered very leftist, my social score was -9.44 and economic -6.55, but I'm not ultra-liberal. To be perfectly honest I'm all over the charts.

Actually, I lean forwards.
Really? I'm waiting for the great leap forward.

<--------- So leftist it'll make you smack yo' mama.

I think I am ultra-leftist after further looking at my views....damn it I'll have to wait for the next one.

Really? I'm waiting for the great leap forward.
To me, it seems more as though it will be a great plummet. I'm no distance jumper, and I'm sure to lose my balance soon leaning out over this pit so...
:(

I said right-leaning because I agree with Democrats on many things such as the right for gays to have civil unions (however, I do NOT beliece that it should be called marriage) and the like, but when it comes to monitary issues, I'll stick with the Republicans.

I don't care for any uneducated boob leeching off the welfare system to get my hard-earned money, I don't want to be taxed more so that I have just as much money as the guy who works at the factory down the road, and I believe that Bush's Social Security plan could work.

After all, you have the Secretary of the Treasury (John Snow is in Bush's pocket, though) and the Chairman of the Federal Reserve giving it the thumbs up. It just shows how badly politics have degraded in this country when you realize that the Representatives and Senators who are against it are against it because they fear the loss of a few old people's votes. How sad.

Call me shallow, but I care more about my money than what happens to a couple of gays who desperately want to have all the legal benefits of a married couple.

Perhaps I should revise my vote to a more right-wing stance.

Call me shallow, but I care more about my money than what happens to a couple of gays who desperately want to have all the legal benefits of a married couple.

Perhaps I should revise my vote to a more right-wing stance.
Why stop at gays?:Call me shallow, but I care more about my money than what happens to a couple of gays and heterosexuals who desperately want to have all the legal benefits of a married couple.

I'm Left-Leaning/Leftist according to my compass.

Why stop at gays?:Call me shallow, but I care more about my money than what happens to a couple of gays and heterosexuals who desperately want to have all the legal benefits of a married couple.

Ah, so you would've voted for Issue 1 on the Ohio ballot last November that banned gay marriage as well as restricting the rights of unmarried persons who may just live togeather.

I wouldn't go so far as this, but I still care about my money more.

According to the Political Compass I'm a left wing Libertarian...funny, I've always been told I'm a left wing Authoritarian. Seems that people can be wrong after all (the question is...which is correct?)

With -10 on economic issues in the political compass and -9.08 on the social scale I could clearly be classed as an Ultra Leftist and I usually think of myself as a Libertarian Communist.

I'm a librarytarian.
Books for the masses.

Both.
So what does it mean. Let me guess, you are American and brainwashed by the Democrat-Republican game. You think that if someone is in favour of abortion rights that they must be for social welfare. Perhaps you also think that if someone is against gay marriage they must be in favour of business deregulation. :rolleyes:

Look at my political compass. Tell me which option to vote for.

I'm a librarytarian.
Books for the masses.
*Bows deeply.*

With -10 on economic issues in the political compass and -9.08 on the social scale I could clearly be classed as an Ultra Leftist and I usually think of myself as a Libertarian Communist.

ROFLMAO!!!

Ah, so you would've voted for Issue 1 on the Ohio ballot last November that banned gay marriage as well as restricting the rights of unmarried persons who may just live togeather.

I wouldn't go so far as this, but I still care about my money more.
I am for gay marriage and hetero marriage. I just don't see why any of them should get benefits when using your logic.

Wow..why so many leftist?... I guess being middle isn't normal anymore.

I'm leaning right IMO. Though the political compass keep on saying I'm centrist.

ROFLMAO!!!

Why do you capitalist libertarians always laugh at libertarian-communists? Libertarian in social issues not economic issues god.

I'm a semi-liberal totalitarian. With some democratic and conservative leanings... So.. what do I put?

Why do you capitalist libertarians always laugh at libertarian-communists? Libertarian in social issues not economic issues god.

You reject state control of freedom but want it on the economy. Thats an oxymoron.

I'm very very, far right.

You reject state control of freedom but want it on the economy. Thats an oxymoron.

Indeed it is.

In Canada I'm right leaning, (barely) but in the states I'm left-leaning (barely).
I'm a small c Conservative (that is, conservative economically, but with liberal social views)

You reject state control of freedom but want it on the economy. Thats an oxymoron.

I'm very very, far right.
What, and wanting freedom of the economy but not personal freedom is not an oxymoron?

You reject state control of freedom but want it on the economy. Thats an oxymoron.
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IT's not really, Communism plays with different ground rules. And generally when used in that sense it doesn't mean State intervention into the economy, but a completely different type of economy.

On the 2 dimention chart I tend to be just a bit left (like -1 x) and a bit libertarian (like -3 y)

I was a moderate until Bush was elected. Being a Pagan equal rights kind of person, that likes green things, and doesn't like war has a tendency to put you in the left nowadays, regardless of how conservative or right wing the rest of your politics might be.

Well. I thought I was plain left, but political compass has proven me wrong.

*quotes Badnarik.org*
The traditional left-right spectrum is one that political scholars have recognized is incomplete for some time. In fact, it's really only useful for tracking the answer to one question: "What part of your life do you think government should control?"

I want the government to insure that no one will have economic power or social power over me, a free market and a free society, and that takes a certain level of government control.

Libertarians seem to want to go so far as to not let government regulate society, and that is what it is there for.

You reject state control of freedom but want it on the economy. Thats an oxymoron.

I'm very very, far right.

Maybe you could explain why it is an oxymoron, and remember that I am neither libertarian or communist, so a good explaination should convince me.

I am assuming that his particular view of Libertarian-Communism would allow you to work in whatever career you want and purchase whatever goods and services you want. The government simply maintains the wages and prices.

a librertarian communist is a communist who believes that there should be much personal freedom but not much economic freedom...

a librertarian communist is a communist who believes that there should be much personal freedom but not much economic freedom...

From what I understand, most modern communists want to allow personal economic freedom, but want stern control over the market. While I don't agree with letting the government control the market, I don't see why there is a limit on economic freedom.

don't go left or right, go forward! i was reading about the american civil war today, and if you pay close attection you'll realise that a strong central government makes the country allot more succesfull. the confederate states of america lost to the united states because the government was forced to get bigger for the war, but the people were against that.

Personally I like to believe I'm off the scale. I borrow my views from all over the spectrum.
However, one of those tests says I'm a left libertarian, or even a liberal-leaning left libertarian. (rolls off the tongue rather nicely when you're imbibed. Ahem.)

I'm pro-gun for instance, which would make me a freak in Europe. I'm also for the legalisation of cannabis and perhaps other substances. In threads about American polls I might defend more left-leaning politics, while in Euro-politics threads I might defend liberal to right wing policies.
(in this latter paragraph, I mean liberal in the European interpretation. The liberal party of my country, for instance, started as a right wing party if I recall correctly.

don't go left or right, go forward! i was reading about the american civil war today, and if you pay close attection you'll realise that a strong central government makes the country allot more succesfull. the confederate states of america lost to the united states because the government was forced to get bigger for the war, but the people were against that.

No, the confederacy lost because it was rural while the north was industrialized. If you want a real display of competition between centralized and decentralized government look at the Cold War.

No, the confederacy lost because it was rural while the north was industrialized. If you want a real display of competition between centralized and decentralized government look at the Cold War.

well, the american civil war was fought over states and federal rights and slave or not. cold war didn't really have much fighting. and rural isn't always worse than industrialized. look at the mongols! well, there wasn't really any industrailized people then, so it was more of a nomads versus set society. hmm, not shure how to word that? not really developed society, mongols had stronge tradition.