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How teaching Abstinence only works

Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:14
Now I'm sure that most of you believe that by teaching Abstinence only is a bad idea in youth today. However a reverend in Alabama has come up with a way where Jesus can help people in remaining abstinent. So sure was he in his method where he tested the technique in his own son. The results he gathered showed to be promising. Despite what critics may think I think that for Christians this may very well be a sound method.

However for Christians haters it may actually increase sexual activity. The expression of "Fuck Jesus" comes to mind. To find out more just click the link below.

Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/religion/61519)
Sdaeriji
09-03-2005, 19:16
Good, reliable source.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:17
Why yes, yes it is. :)
UpwardThrust
09-03-2005, 19:17
Now I'm sure that most of you believe that by teaching Abstinence only is a bad idea in youth today. However a reverend in Alabama has come up with a way where Jesus can help people in remaining abstinent. So sure was he in his method where he tested the technique in his own son. The results he gathered showed to be promising. Despite what critics may think I think that for Christians this may very well be a sound method.

However for Christians haters it may actually increase sexual activity. The expression of "Fuck Jesus" comes to mind. To find out more just click the link below.

Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/religion/61519)
:-P while funny has nothing to do with abstinance only education :p
Omni-Psychotia
09-03-2005, 19:20
Yup, I'm pretty sure seeing Jesus on a condom would kill my boner in an instant...

Luckily I don't use condoms ;)
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:20
At our school... a couple of the teen christians wear silver rings on their left hands... it symbolizes that we're waiting for true love. We don't want to have sex till we're married.
UpwardThrust
09-03-2005, 19:21
Yup, I'm pretty sure seeing Jesus on a condom would kill my boner in an instant...

Luckily I don't use condoms ;)
What if your into guys? maybe it would turn you on!
Westmorlandia
09-03-2005, 19:22
I would be all for abstinence if it didn't mean that I couldn't get laid.
Wurzelmania
09-03-2005, 19:23
I guess I don't really have to worry about this.

But I would be amused to find a used one of them :D
Passive Cookies
09-03-2005, 19:24
I would be all for abstinence if it didn't mean that I couldn't get laid.
I agree. Abstinence without sex = Teh lame ;)
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:24
I would be all for abstinence if it didn't mean that I couldn't get laid.
Just preach for other people to be abstinent while you go out and have a good time every night. ;)
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:24
I would be all for abstinence if it didn't mean that I couldn't get laid.

... I don't think I could ever be promiscuous and just "have sex" for the pleasure... with just anyone anytime. I don' see how people do it.
UpwardThrust
09-03-2005, 19:26
... I don't think I could ever be promiscuous and just "have sex" for the pleasure... with just anyone anytime. I don' see how people do it.
called alchahol :p
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:29
Yea but... then I'd remember what I'd done ... and feel awful for it.
Sdaeriji
09-03-2005, 19:30
Yea but... then I'd remember what I'd done ... and feel awful for it.

Not if you drank enough booze you wouldn't.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:30
Just drink a lot. You wont remember a thing.
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:32
*rolls eyes* That's okay... i think I'll pass. I don't like the smell of alcohol. and I don't have enough courage to do soemthing that... wild.
UpwardThrust
09-03-2005, 19:33
*rolls eyes* That's okay... i think I'll pass. I don't like the smell of alcohol. and I don't have enough courage to do soemthing that... wild.
Some day my friend some day :)
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:34
*rolls eyes* That's okay... i think I'll pass. I don't like the smell of alcohol. and I don't have enough courage to do soemthing that... wild.
Well at least take this one drink and forget that we ever met.
*Holds out a drink*
Giuseppe-san
09-03-2005, 19:35
Love the sacreligious connotations here. Kinda like that crucifix dildo. That is, a crucifix molded into the rubber of the dildo.

Plus, this is a much better alternative:
http://www.sexinchrist.com/
UpwardThrust
09-03-2005, 19:36
Love the sacreligious connotations here. Kinda like that crucifix dildo.
yup we should put jesus on the condom not just the packaging ;)


(brings a whole new meaning to when she screems jesus in bed)
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:37
Love the sacreligious connotations here. Kinda like that crucifix dildo.
Now would that be a dildo in the shape of a crucifix, a dildo with a picture of a crucifix, or just somebody using a crucifix as a dildo?
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:38
Some day my friend some day :)

lol yea I guess when I move somewhere where NO ONE knows me.
Jaythewise
09-03-2005, 19:42
At our school... a couple of the teen christians wear silver rings on their left hands... it symbolizes that we're waiting for true love. We don't want to have sex till we're married.


hmm i do the same thing cept i have three on my willy
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:45
..... uh
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:45
lol yea I guess when I move somewhere where NO ONE knows me.
Drinking isn't all that bad for you. In fact drinking beer is quite good for you. Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/chamber/61575)
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:48
*shrugs* I actually have a problem with guys. When a guy starts to like me I shy I away..... even if in the beginning I DID like them... I'm pretty weird.
Sdaeriji
09-03-2005, 19:51
*shrugs* I actually have a problem with guys. When a guy starts to like me I shy I away..... even if in the beginning I DID like them... I'm pretty weird.

That's not weird. That's how most people act. How old are you?
Scouserlande
09-03-2005, 19:51
world news eh? weekly even, a bastion of free speech if ever there was one.

frankly I believe teaching abstinence only is fascism, because you are basically obstructing a large about of information from kids that really could save their lives and forcing your view point on them, Kids will have sex no matter what, yes abstinence absence only education will decreases it but not eradicate it, therefore you are putting the few that will at a lot of risk.

Also I don’t like all this crap about contraception failing 20% of the time, and aids virus's passing through condoms, that’s absolute bullshit, just because from hick scientist in the state university of backwater ville says it true means jack shit, id like to see a study done by a real university conclude that.
Passive Cookies
09-03-2005, 19:52
Drinking isn't all that bad for you. In fact drinking beer is quite good for you. Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/chamber/61575)
"We found Miller drinkers were just as smart as Bud drinkers, though people who drank nonalcoholic brews were just as dumb as the French."
I laughed at that. But then felt guilty about it after.
Alenaland
09-03-2005, 19:52
Just preach for other people to be abstinent while you go out and have a good time every night. ;)

This especially works if you preach abstinence to your competition. If you, as a guy, for example, preach abstinence to all other males, just think of all the horny women around for you to "help". ;)
Gnostikos
09-03-2005, 19:52
I'm surprised no-one has yet brought up Mary Magdalene...
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:53
I'm a junior and I'm 16...
Alenaland
09-03-2005, 19:53
lol yea I guess when I move somewhere where NO ONE knows me.

Just go to Vegas... What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. :p
Sdaeriji
09-03-2005, 19:54
I'm a junior and I'm 16...

Yeah, that's normal for a high school girl. Don't worry about it. You've got plenty of time to meet plenty of guys.
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:54
This especially works if you preach abstinence to your competition. If you, as a guy, for example, preach abstinence to all other males, just think of all the horny women around for you to "help". ;)

Hey... in Wisconsin, was it true about the 63 year old guy who got caught with a cow?
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:56
Yeah, that's normal for a high school girl. Don't worry about it. You've got plenty of time to meet plenty of guys.

Yea... lol i just have no patience, ya know?
Alenaland
09-03-2005, 19:57
Hey... in Wisconsin, was it true about the 63 year old guy who got caught with a cow?

Can't say that I was there, but it wouldn't surprise me. We had some guy go to jail about 10 years ago for sexually molesting his neighbor's horses.
Sdaeriji
09-03-2005, 19:57
Yea... lol i just have no patience, ya know?

Yeah, that's another hallmark of a teenage girl. Don't worry about it. :)
Tograna
09-03-2005, 19:58
By Jesus I assume you mean white jesus with a beard and long robes and sandles like the jesus that the modern church would have you believe lived ...

because of course having an arab as the son of god isnt really on now is it?
Amorado
09-03-2005, 19:58
Lol yea... I just want the "perfect" relationship... does that make sense? I don't want to date a million guys to find the one.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 19:59
Can't say that I was there, but it wouldn't surprise me. We had some guy go to jail about 10 years ago for sexually molesting his neighbor's horses.
Tom Green?
Kazcaper
09-03-2005, 20:02
... I don't think I could ever be promiscuous and just "have sex" for the pleasure... with just anyone anytime. I don' see how people do it.Neither do I. But that doesn't mean I'm celibate. I'm in a long-term relationship, not married, and while sex is not the main issue, things wouldn't be the same without it. I think it brings us closer. All the same, fair play to you, I respect your decision to wait until your married. Just pointing out that all of us unmarried non-virgins aren't sluts!
Kevady
09-03-2005, 20:02
Drinking isn't all that bad for you. In fact drinking beer is quite good for you. Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/chamber/61575)
not very convincing as it lists the netherlands as one of the greatest beer drinking countries and doesn't have any mention of Belgium
Crusty Stuff
09-03-2005, 20:04
Now I'm sure that most of you believe that by teaching Abstinence only is a bad idea in youth today. However a reverend in Alabama has come up with a way where Jesus can help people in remaining abstinent. So sure was he in his method where he tested the technique in his own son. The results he gathered showed to be promising. Despite what critics may think I think that for Christians this may very well be a sound method. I don't think so, some could look at it as an endorsement of sex by jesus.

WWJD?

He'd tap that ass!
Amorado
09-03-2005, 20:04
Yea... sorry if it sounded like I was coming off like that. I didn't mean it that way. I've just witnessed how my friend has to deal with the guy she THOUGHT she loved (her ex b/f) talking about when they had sex. I don't think I could handle that, ya know? and I have horrible taste in guys... so I don't want that to happen to me.

But I don't think sex is bad... per se... because it was created to be pleasureable.
Kazcaper
09-03-2005, 20:08
Yea... sorry if it sounded like I was coming off like that. I didn't mean it that way. I've just witnessed how my friend has to deal with the guy she THOUGHT she loved (her ex b/f) talking about when they had sex. I don't think I could handle that, ya know? and I have horrible taste in guys... so I don't want that to happen to me.

But I don't think sex is bad... per se... because it was created to be pleasureable.
Oh yeah, I understand what you mean - heard of similar cases myself. Anyway, like I said, I respect your decision - if it's what's right for you, then good for you! :)
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 20:13
I don't think so, some could look at it as an endorsement of sex by jesus.

WWJD?

He'd tap that ass!
Interesting point, but so far the research says otherwise. That may be because of other abstinence only teachings though.

Now an interesting question has just crossed my mind. Would the semen be blessed if the condom was actually used? And if so exactly how would that blessing effect the sperm? Or would it be cursed?
Amorado
09-03-2005, 20:15
lol... I know God sees everything but... I wouldn't want to constantly think about him being right there when i was... umm... well you know. =p
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 20:19
lol... I know God sees everything but... I wouldn't want to constantly think about him being right there when i was... umm... well you know. =p
Don't you love Jesus? :(
Come on, prove just how much you love Jesus. :D

:eek: No Wait don't!!! Remain abstinent. You must remain Abstinent.
Amorado
09-03-2005, 20:21
... ummm... one word.. terets? *spelling is prolly wrong on that word*
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 20:26
... ummm... one word.. terets? *spelling is prolly wrong on that word*
You mean Tourette syndrome?
Bolol
09-03-2005, 20:26
Now I'm sure that most of you believe that by teaching Abstinence only is a bad idea in youth today. However a reverend in Alabama has come up with a way where Jesus can help people in remaining abstinent. So sure was he in his method where he tested the technique in his own son. The results he gathered showed to be promising. Despite what critics may think I think that for Christians this may very well be a sound method.

However for Christians haters it may actually increase sexual activity. The expression of "Fuck Jesus" comes to mind. To find out more just click the link below.

Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/religion/61519)

Dude...Uh...That's a tabloid website.
Gnostikos
09-03-2005, 20:27
... ummm... one word.. terets? *spelling is prolly wrong on that word*
I'm guessing you're referring to Tourette's syndrome. But what exactly do you mean by that?
Toujours-Rouge
09-03-2005, 20:28
It'd probably work for me as everytime i whipped out a condom i'd fall about laughing hysterically. I wonder how many porn films they have starring someone pretending to be Jesus...

Ahh, the Weekly World News. Always great for a laugh at the daft things they come up with :p
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 20:28
Dude...Uh...That's a tabloid website.
Lies :mp5:
Amorado
09-03-2005, 20:29
You mean Tourette syndrome?

Yes!
Toujours-Rouge
09-03-2005, 20:30
Don't click the below link if you're offended by cartoony references to sex


Veering off on a tangent, this is one of the funniest flash games i've ever played ;D


No linky to games about sex, kthnx.
Amorado
09-03-2005, 20:40
I'm guessing you're referring to Tourette's syndrome. But what exactly do you mean by that?

One of my friends actually has tourettes syndrome.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 20:41
Veering off on a tangent, this is one of the funniest flash games i've ever played ;D
I've played better but you better take that link down before the mods strike you down. Or at least edit it for you. I just recently got into trouble for my things I learned from hentai sig because it was "sexually graphic"
Gay Ninjas
09-03-2005, 20:45
My sister once found a packet of tissues with the Virgin Mary printed on them in Germany... kekekeke
Amorado
09-03-2005, 20:51
Really? That's cool.. I guess.
I_Hate_Cows
09-03-2005, 21:13
Now I'm sure that most of you believe that by teaching Abstinence only is a bad idea in youth today. However a reverend in Alabama has come up with a way where Jesus can help people in remaining abstinent. So sure was he in his method where he tested the technique in his own son. The results he gathered showed to be promising. Despite what critics may think I think that for Christians this may very well be a sound method.

However for Christians haters it may actually increase sexual activity. The expression of "Fuck Jesus" comes to mind. To find out more just click the link below.

Clicky (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/religion/61519)
Putting the words Jesus and reverend together with Alabama takes your credibility down a few..hundred..notches

And not only that but teh whole basis for his argument is he got his OWN CHILDREN to do it? Wow, a preacher got the preacher's own children to listen to WWJD? Wow, what's next? A trapeze artist's family teaching their kids to be trapeze artists.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
09-03-2005, 21:19
what's next? A trapeze artist's family teaching their kids to be trapeze artists.
:eek: Lets hope not. The very security of the free world could be in great peril.
Skaje
09-03-2005, 21:36
I have a very religious friend, who nonetheless is the biggest sex fiend I've ever met. Jesus condoms would be a hilarious gift, if I could find them.
Amorado
09-03-2005, 21:39
I have a very religious friend, who nonetheless is the biggest sex fiend I've ever met. Jesus condoms would be a hilarious gift, if I could find them.

seriously... sex fiend? And the person feels alright having sex alot though they are religious?
Skaje
09-03-2005, 21:49
seriously... sex fiend? And the person feels alright having sex alot though they are religious?
Apparently so. I think it's hilarious.

I do wish she wouldn't give the rest of us a hard time for not being Christian though. :p
UpwardThrust
09-03-2005, 21:50
seriously... sex fiend? And the person feels alright having sex alot though they are religious?
Not all religions ban sex :p but besides that he could be a hyper horny guy and be a "sex fiend" without consumating the act
Katganistan
09-03-2005, 23:53
Also I don’t like all this crap about contraception failing 20% of the time, and aids virus's passing through condoms, that’s absolute bullshit, just because from hick scientist in the state university of backwater ville says it true means jack shit, id like to see a study done by a real university conclude that.

Would you consider Planned Parenthood an acceptable source?

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-condom.xml#1096511249496::875463827310651233

"Of 100 women whose partners use condoms, about 15 will become pregnant during the first year of typical use.* Only two women will become pregnant with perfect use.** More protection against pregnancy is possible if condoms are used with a spermicide foam, cream, jelly, suppository, or film."



http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-diaphragms-cervical-caps.xml#1096546082935::175251952232340974

"Sixteen out of 100 women who use the diaphragm will become pregnant during the first year of typical use.* Six will become pregnant with perfect use.**

Sixteen out of 100 women who have never given birth and use the cervical cap will become pregnant during the first year of typical use. Nine will become pregnant with perfect use. Of 100 women who have given birth and use the cervical cap, 32 will become pregnant during the first year of typical use. Twenty-six will become pregnant with perfect use.

Fourteen out of 100 women who have never been pregnant or given birth vaginally and use FemCap will become pregnant during the first year of typical use. Of 100 women who have given birth vaginally and use FemCap, 29 will become pregnant during the first year of typical use.*** Effectiveness rates for perfect use are not available.

Fifteen out of 100 women who use the shield will become pregnant during the first year of typical use. Effectiveness rates for perfect use are not available."



http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-contraception-pill.xml#1097889802325::-1797964069978546334

"The pill is one of the most effective reversible methods of birth control. Of 100 women who use the pill, only eight will become pregnant during the first year of typical use.* Fewer than one will become pregnant with perfect use.**"



http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-patch-orthoevra.xml#1096398178912::4396905899376129801

"The patch is a very effective reversible method of birth control.
With typical use,* although no studies have yet been published, it is assumed that the patch will be more effective than the pill — eight out of every 100 pill users become pregnant with typical use. Fewer than one woman out of every 100 women who use the patch will become pregnant with perfect use.

*Typical use refers to failure rates for women whose use is not consistent or always correct.
**Perfect use refers to failure rates for those whose use is consistent and always correct."




http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-contraception-nuvaring.xml

"The ring is a very effective reversible method of birth control. With typical use, * although no studies have yet been published, it is assumed that the ring will be more effective than the pill — eight out of every 100 pill users become pregnant with typical use. Fewer than one woman out of every 100 women who use the ring will become pregnant with perfect use.**"


http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-depo-provera.xml

"The shot is one of the most effective reversible methods of birth control. Of every 1,000 women who use it correctly and consistently, only three will become pregnant during the first year of use. Three in 100 women will become pregnant with typical use."


"79-95% EFFECTIVE — female condom"


http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-contraception-iud.xml

"The IUD is one of the most effective reversible methods of birth control available to women. Of 100 women who use the ParaGard or Mirena, one or fewer will become pregnant during the first year of typical use*. Fewer than one will become pregnant with perfect** use. Fewer pregnancies occur with continued use.
*Typical use refers to failure rates for women whose use is not consistent or always correct.
**Perfect use refers to failure rates for those whose use is consistent and always correct."


http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-tubal-sterilization.xml#1100709148492::-8377963870456102189

"Sterilization is more than 99 percent effective in the first year. In following years, there is a limited possibility that tubes may reconnect by themselves. Up to one out of 100 women become pregnant each year after sterilization. About one out of three of these pregnancies are ectopic (develop in a fallopian tube) and may require emergency surgery."




http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/birthcontrol/pub-contraception-vasectomy.xml

"Vasectomy is permanent birth control for men. It is a medical procedure that is intended to cause sterility. About 500,000 men in the U.S. choose vasectomy every year. It is chosen by men who have completed their families or by men who do not want children. These men want birth control that is intended to be permanent. They prefer vasectomy because most reversible methods are less reliable, sometimes inconvenient, and may have unpleasant side effects for the women in their lives.

Vasectomy is nearly 100 percent effective. It is intended to be permanent. It is safe. It doesn't limit sexual pleasure."

Planned Parenthood has no reason to lie about the effectiveness of various forms of contraception, since one of their missions is to encourage safer and more responsible sex. Even they admit that some of these methods DO fail, and if you notice, condoms are the ones that have the worst rating (roughly, 20%... 15% for male condoms, and 21% for female).

Your best bet is to read about each method and discuss with your health care provider which is best for you.

As for the "AIDs can pass through a condom" chestnut, it can -- if you are using lambskin rather than latex condoms.
Syawla
09-03-2005, 23:55
One thing I have never understood is why Christians presume that all atheists are promiscuous?
Teh Cameron Clan
09-03-2005, 23:57
I agree. Abstinence without sex = Teh lame ;)
only im allowed u use "teh" feel my wrath... rawr :rolleyes:

i think its a dumb idea :cool:
Skaje
10-03-2005, 00:00
One thing I have never understood is why Christians presume that all atheists are promiscuous?
I'm an atheist but I'm not promiscuous.

...

But I would be if I could! :(
Katganistan
10-03-2005, 00:01
Now an interesting question has just crossed my mind. Would the semen be blessed if the condom was actually used? And if so exactly how would that blessing effect the sperm? Or would it be cursed?

Actually, anything that makes sex for anything other than reproduction is frowned on by Christian churches.... there are dire warnings about spilling seed and basically preventing pregancy....

Or have you not heard the Monty Python take on it?

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
When a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate....

The rest of the lyrics are quite readily available via a search. ;)
Syawla
10-03-2005, 00:01
I'm an atheist but I'm not promiscuous.

...

But I would be if I could! :(

You give Atheists a bad name.
Neo-Anarchists
10-03-2005, 00:04
My sister once found a packet of tissues with the Virgin Mary printed on them in Germany... kekekeke
:eek:
Somebody that occaisonally uses "kekekeke" other than 1 Infinite Loop(I think it was him) and I!

Cool.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
10-03-2005, 00:10
:eek:
Somebody that occaisonally uses "kekekeke" other than 1 Infinite Loop(I think it was him) and I!

Cool.
That used to be very common at the BBS site I was at before I came here.
Skaje
10-03-2005, 00:12
You give Atheists a bad name.
You are unable to discern humor.
Arribastan
10-03-2005, 00:15
You are unable to discern humor.
Really? I was about to agree with you. Oh, well.
Unistate
10-03-2005, 00:21
I'm thinking a better idea is to accept that teenagers will have sex (Humans are designed to be capable of breeding from about age 12 to 14.), and that they can help a lot through education. Education isn't condoning of sex, neither should it be, but neither should it be condoning of abstinance. For me personally, sex is something to do with a person you love. It it's merely physical, it's nothing I can't use my own hands for (Literally xD)- marriage or no, it's up to me. However, I'm not going to tell anyone else they should only have sex with someone they love, or only in marriage, because it isn't my business to decide other people's morality. *shrugs*

Funny, though. Damned funny. xD
Dakini
10-03-2005, 00:40
Planned Parenthood has no reason to lie about the effectiveness of various forms of contraception, since one of their missions is to encourage safer and more responsible sex. Even they admit that some of these methods DO fail, and if you notice, condoms are the ones that have the worst rating (roughly, 20%... 15% for male condoms, and 21% for female).

Your best bet is to read about each method and discuss with your health care provider which is best for you.

As for the "AIDs can pass through a condom" chestnut, it can -- if you are using lambskin rather than latex condoms.
Umm... you notice that the 15 pregnancies a year stat would include say people getting it on without a condom once or twice and getting pregnant. Whereas the 2 out of 100 pregnancies per year on perfect use, i.e., proper application, use every time is consistent with the condom manufacturer and often stated claim that they are 98% effective.
Dakini
10-03-2005, 00:42
Actually, anything that makes sex for anything other than reproduction is frowned on by Christian churches.... there are dire warnings about spilling seed and basically preventing pregancy....
It depends on the church.

And Onan disobeyed a direct command from god, he didn't get smoten because he tried to prevent a pregnancy... well... if he had done so under other circumstances, he would have been fine.
I_Hate_Cows
10-03-2005, 01:00
WWJD? Wear a condom? Oh good, thank you for reminding me Jesus
Katganistan
10-03-2005, 07:14
Umm... you notice that the 15 pregnancies a year stat would include say people getting it on without a condom once or twice and getting pregnant. Whereas the 2 out of 100 pregnancies per year on perfect use, i.e., proper application, use every time is consistent with the condom manufacturer and often stated claim that they are 98% effective.

It also includes breakage and slippage, which are possible. (Trust me, I've a cousin thanks to that. ;))

This was in direct answer to a poster who said that the 20% failure rate was 'bullshit' -- and I simply provided information that shows that it is not, in fact, bullshit.

;) Besides, I figure all the links back I provided to each of the methods are both a public service and enough info for someone to know what questions to ask their doctor.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-03-2005, 07:41
... I don't think I could ever be promiscuous and just "have sex" for the pleasure... with just anyone anytime. I don' see how people do it.

You'll never know until you try it. :fluffle: