NationStates Jolt Archive


An Order of Knights

Nova Calabria
09-03-2005, 15:17
Would anyone be interested in creating a new military order of knight, like the Templar or Teutonic knights. It can be secular, religious, esoteric, or just plain military fun. Suggestions and ideas fully welcome.
Pure Metal
09-03-2005, 15:19
The Kick Ass Knights. sounds cool, no?
Nova Calabria
09-03-2005, 15:19
Not bad...
Anarchic Conceptions
09-03-2005, 15:21
The Kick Ass Knights. sounds cool, no?
Sounds kick ass.

:headbang: Must :headbang: stop :headbang: making :headbang: stupid :headbang: jokes :headbang:
Keruvalia
09-03-2005, 15:21
So long as it doesn't take away from my time with the Islamic Jihad Army ...

but I've said too much ....
Nova Calabria
09-03-2005, 15:24
I want something either close to/ or just like the templars or teutonics; men who love to fight, but have a deeper meaning.
Nova Calabria
09-03-2005, 15:31
How does this sound?: Equites Dei.
Anarchic Conceptions
09-03-2005, 15:35
I want something either close to/ or just like the templars or teutonics; men who love to fight, but have a deeper meaning.
Teutonic Templars of Deeper Meaning?
Sharazar
09-03-2005, 15:47
I'm in as long as full platemail is compulsory.
Comdidia
09-03-2005, 16:02
I'm in as long as i get to kill things from time to time.
The Abomination
09-03-2005, 16:39
NI!

Ha! First one in!

An order of knights would be cool. Nothing like getting cliquish and elitist, before gradually using your growing influence to take over the world.... and the best part is, I ain't being sarcastic. :D
Comdidia
09-03-2005, 16:41
NI!

Ha! First one in!

An order of knights would be cool. Nothing like getting cliquish and elitist, before gradually using your growing influence to take over the world.... and the best part is, I ain't being sarcastic. :D

Curse you for actually making sense and giving good points!....Take over the world hmmmm. That is always fun.
Drunk commies
09-03-2005, 17:02
Can we take liberties with the local peasant women? How about taxing the peasants? Could we start a crusade? If the answeres to the three questions are yes, I'd consider joining.
Monotonous
09-03-2005, 17:03
Take over the world hmmmm. That is always fun.
That's Jordaxia's job!
Nadkor
09-03-2005, 17:05
if i dont have to do anything, then ok ill join
Monotonous
09-03-2005, 17:07
The Knights That Don't Actually Do Anything!
Fimble loving peoples
09-03-2005, 17:10
I will join on several conditions.........

1. There will be no dragon fighting, unless the dragon is fighting a bear in chains.
2. Plate armour is both nessecary and to be worn constantly.
3. Horses are to be reared to a specified set of demensions and forced to stop growing once that point is reached.
4. Maidens in distress will not be saved unless they look easy.
5. Heroics are to be performed solely in the range of a camera, For purposes of destroying time.

That is all.
The Abomination
09-03-2005, 17:14
I notice no-one has considered righting wrongs. This not a big priority these days, hmm? Tis meant to be traditional.

Although, personally, I've always thought that crusades are a lot less morally ambiguous than some have suggested - so I guess that might count.

Instead of slaying dragons, we could slay compulsive flamers! And trolls! Definitely monsters of the modern world.
Debugistan
09-03-2005, 17:24
Well, if you are interested in Order of Knights, take a look at region "The Cathedral".
New Harumf
09-03-2005, 17:25
At one time or another, The Hospitaler Knights, The Knights of the Temple of Soloman, The Tutonic Knights of St. Mary, The Knights of the Hospital of St. John the Baptist in Jerusalem, The Knights of Malta, and one or two more. If you are going to play these dudes for real, you need to occupy your time conducting pilgrims to the Middle Eastern Holy spots, put up hospices everywhere you can, be unusually Catholic and Mystic at the same time, be incredibly ignorant and uneducated, and have occasional bouts of rampant homosexuality. Also helps if you only travel on horseback, fight with swords, and throw yourself into warfare frequently.
Shakti Blue Pearl
09-03-2005, 17:40
If I wanted to help the knighthood community but under a sisterhood symbol-- how would that work?

Our group could be called the "Order of the Rosy Cross". We would be maidens trained in the magical arts of healing and calling on all esoteric powers, trained by Merlin's mother. The criteria for us, in the higher order of things, would be that, we would have to come from a lineage of water nymphs and carry the changeling blood-line. Therefore, if we were to couple with a knight, from your order, the next generation's blood-line would stay true to purpose; maintaining the heart of your knighthood and Rosicrucians calling...
Khwarezmia
09-03-2005, 17:41
A lot of Damsels in Distress weren't actually Damsels in Distress. They were the ones doing the rescuing. According to Terry Jones.

How about more modern knights, say, ride motorbikes/mobility scooters instead of horses. And uses carbon fibre composite armour and swords too.
The Abomination
09-03-2005, 17:49
Carbon fibre composite swords? Those things would go through airport metal detectors with nary a ping!

Hmm... I have evil thoughts.

On the whole gender equality thing, I think that our order should be open to both genders and most faiths. As long as everyone sticks to fidelite, prouesse and largesse of course.
Nimzonia
09-03-2005, 17:52
Would anyone be interested in creating a new military order of knight, like the Templar or Teutonic knights. It can be secular, religious, esoteric, or just plain military fun. Suggestions and ideas fully welcome.

Only if we can call it 'The Holy Gestapo', and everyone must wear wide brimmed hats and little round glasses, and carry a sword-cane. Our theme tune shall be 'The Sinister Minister' by Bela Fleck and the Flecktones.
Drunk commies
09-03-2005, 17:53
Carbon fibre composite swords? Those things would go through airport metal detectors with nary a ping!

Hmm... I have evil thoughts.

On the whole gender equality thing, I think that our order should be open to both genders and most faiths. As long as everyone sticks to fidelite, prouesse and largesse of course.
Can we still take liberties with the local peasant women?
Khwarezmia
09-03-2005, 17:54
On the whole gender equality thing, I think that our order should be open to both genders and most faiths. As long as everyone sticks to fidelite, prouesse and largesse of course.

In the Medieval period, a lot of Damsels in Distress and Fair Maidens were doing the rescuing, rather than the knights themselves.
The Abomination
09-03-2005, 17:57
Can we still take liberties with the local peasant women?

Sure. For a given value of peasant. You don't find many about these days, mores the pity.

In the Medieval period, a lot of Damsels in Distress and Fair Maidens were doing the rescuing, rather than the knights themselves. Really? Like who?
Shakti Blue Pearl
09-03-2005, 17:59
A lot of Damsels in Distress weren't actually Damsels in Distress. They were the ones doing the rescuing. According to Terry Jones.


Who is Terry Jones? Yes, but you see, we wouldn't be damsels in distress, we would work in conjunction with the knighthood order, but on higher and more stable ground, perhaps masked by mists... hehe ;)
Khwarezmia
09-03-2005, 17:59
Really? Like who?

I can't give an example, but Terry Jones did a documentary on them once. Damsels in Distress are a creation of a later time I suspect.
Nimzonia
09-03-2005, 18:00
In the Medieval period, a lot of Damsels in Distress and Fair Maidens were doing the rescuing, rather than the knights themselves.

There weren't any fair maidens in the middle ages. They were all rough and hairy, and smelled bad.
Khwarezmia
09-03-2005, 18:03
Who is Terry Jones?

He was the cartoonist with the Monty Python team.

There's a book with the series:
http://www.bbcshop.com/invt/0563487933&bklist=icat,4,,5,historyothers

Behind the stereotypes of 'damsels in distress'
Shakti Blue Pearl
09-03-2005, 18:10
On the whole gender equality thing, I think that our order should be open to both genders and most faiths. As long as everyone sticks to fidelite, prouesse and largesse of course.

Yay!!! The strongest connection we would have with your order, would be through telepathy. So if a knight were in trouble/hurt/in deep pain, and called to us, then, a sister of the "Rosy Cross," whom that particular knight was paired with, would have the capability of releasing that knight from his pain. From our power spot, where we resided, we would be able to take on the pain and transform it, so that, he would once again be free to carry out your oder's mission. By the way, what is your mission?

Oh and we should have a secret bonding code... to protect from the evil eye, perhaps?
Shakti Blue Pearl
09-03-2005, 18:12
He was the cartoonist with the Monty Python team.

There's a book with the series:
http://www.bbcshop.com/invt/0563487933&bklist=icat,4,,5,historyothers

Right- sweet! Je' adore Monty Python! Mahalo (thank you in Hawaiian) for the reminder! Cool!
The Abomination
09-03-2005, 18:22
My mission? My personal mission is to restore the power of my kingdom and to bring honour and glory to it's throne.

And once again... I ain't kidding. :)

Aah... Monty Python. Ambassadors of obscure humour to the world.
Liskeinland
09-03-2005, 18:22
My entire nation is based around chivalry: "The Templar Guardians of Liskeinland". Also liking Power Metal, I would indeed like an order of knights. But there is one dilemma. Red or blue? :confused:
Shakti Blue Pearl
09-03-2005, 18:27
My entire nation is based around chivalry: "The Templar Guardians of Liskeinland". Also liking Power Metal, I would indeed like an order of knights. But there is one dilemma. Red or blue? :confused:

*giggles* Blue of course, with a tad of triune shaped aubergene colors. We, of the "Rosy Cross" maidens, will make the armor and undergarments for you. Infused with special powers of your choosing... which would be...
Shakti Blue Pearl
09-03-2005, 18:31
My mission? My personal mission is to restore the power of my kingdom and to bring honour and glory to it's throne.

And once again... I ain't kidding. :)

Aah... Monty Python. Ambassadors of obscure humour to the world.

Whence did your power diseminate, who took it, and why? Is your throne hidden or being used by it's usurper?
The Abomination
09-03-2005, 18:36
Usurpers, believe me. Our power was disseminated when we fought for our lives against a brutal foe of such terrible evil his name is as a blight upon our lips. Once we fought for pride, but found our pride was dust in the mouths of fallen warriors - After we fought for honour, but burnt our strength merely to hold the line against the darkness.

Our crown sank into mean obscurity and our kingdom fell to become the lackey of lesser nations. Those who rule in our Palaces have no concept of honour, no knowledge of right... merely mercenary greed and the decay of truth.
Shakti Blue Pearl
09-03-2005, 19:00
Usurpers, believe me. Our power was disseminated when we fought for our lives against a brutal foe of such terrible evil his name is as a blight upon our lips. Once we fought for pride, but found our pride was dust in the mouths of fallen warriors - After we fought for honour, but burnt our strength merely to hold the line against the darkness.

Our crown sank into mean obscurity and our kingdom fell to become the lackey of lesser nations. Those who rule in our Palaces have no concept of honour, no knowledge of right... merely mercenary greed and the decay of truth.

ahha... to return to glory, I understand.

Unfortunately, sometimes shapeless darkness can devour one, unwittingly. Nonetheless, fear not, has your counsel seen through the great lessons, that the darkness has brought unto your nation? Does the ring of your crown still hold the pure forces of it's nimbus sister? Or have the usurpers gleaned only a fraction of this truth from it's symbol?

If the mercenaries are only ruling in vain and greed, killing with only one side of the sword (although there are two) and lust, then that is their weakness, yes? And perhaps your way back in... It sounds like they have not reached the full potential of your crown's knowledge. Honour of having the crown, and wearing the crown, are two different things, which they, your enemy, may not be aware of yet.

The golden rule that justice can only be carried out by those of true heart and wisdom of your order, must be reinforced, for faith in your victory. Those, the knights close to the table of your heart, that understand all levels of the sword and the crown, must, at all times carry this strength. Was there a weak link in your fold when battle ensued?

I am sorry about the plight of your kingdom...
Khwarezmia
09-03-2005, 22:15
So Abomination, do they have a strict code of conduct like chivalrous knights or the Samurai?
Shakti Blue Pearl
11-03-2005, 05:29
How does this sound?: Equites Dei.

Sounds incredible! So, what do you think of this as an umbrella for these two orders:

Court of the Crimsom Kingdom

Also, I was thinking b/c we're mostly your home base fortification, in terms of orginization and aim, well, the order of the rosy cross nymphs would mainly:

-nuture the homestead, children, and bloodlines
-cultivate the sea and land
-esoterically create protection for the Equites Dei
-utilize the knowledge of sylphs through gnosis
-maintain the order of the guilds
-create harmony

anything else you can think of just let me know.
Rosenwald
11-03-2005, 05:32
I'd join in an instant. My whole nation is aesthetically based on medieval and European ideals, etc. (I'm a huge medieval fan). Seriously, look at my flag and my motto and tell me i'm not qualified. :) How about the Knights of the Rose? Or perhaps the Knights of Liberty? How about "Ordo Clementia" The Order of the People/Humanity?
Nova Calabria
11-03-2005, 14:22
Can there also be a special area for archological searches (the holy grail, the ark of the covenant, etc.) and a technological center for discovery with things like new weaponry, energy, etc. (outside of the esoteric energy) in the order of the rosy cross. The idea would be something like the Ahnenerbe without the evil. If you can put that in there, then its all good. You can even do me one better. My email adress is Fireballs999@netscape.net. If you can send me an organizational "prototype", then I can fashion my Equites, and we could pull together this new order. I'll give the umbrella name some thought, just to try it out. And anyone else can add ideas. I'm still formulating my Equites, but if you want to see something of what it will be like, go to Templarhistory.com. Anyway, keep up the good work Shakti! You shall go far in this order.

P.S. I'm catholic, so is there anything that I'll find revoltingly and extremely offensive to the Church (If its a little, dont matter). I know this isn't the real world, but my stamp has to be on something I agree on. Anyway, good luck.
Shakti Blue Pearl
11-03-2005, 18:02
I'd join in an instant. My whole nation is aesthetically based on medieval and European ideals, etc. (I'm a huge medieval fan). Seriously, look at my flag and my motto and tell me i'm not qualified. :) How about the Knights of the Rose? Or perhaps the Knights of Liberty? How about "Ordo Clementia" The Order of the People/Humanity?

I like that "Ordo Clementia" - Order of the people- it has a nice ring to it!!

Here's another possibility: De Lampadis Vitae
Shakti Blue Pearl
11-03-2005, 18:31
Can there also be a special area for archological searches (the holy grail, the ark of the covenant, etc.) and a technological center for discovery with things like new weaponry, energy, etc. (outside of the esoteric energy) in the order of the rosy cross.

Yes- definitely. But we would use our esoteric/ alchemical/ technological energies to further ascertain the where abouts of these items. Then we could send your men out on the expeditions with a map and the safest route.

Also, I was thinking, as far as secret military, we should have a department where the high priestesses of the rosy cross, trained in samurai like arts, will teach your men, how to kill with voice range. But only we would know how to seduce completely with a certain vocal call. Of course, there will be some men in the Equites that would have more celestial water nymph blood than others, and therefore resonate more with the esoteric qualities, who will also gravitate towards the art of beguilement, enchantment, and seduction. Actually, with our coupling, I'm hoping most of your men will resonate with these divine qualities of the rosy cross order.


The idea would be something like the Ahnenerbe without the evil. If you can put that in there, then its all good. You can even do me one better. My email adress is Fireballs999@netscape.net. If you can send me an organizational "prototype", then I can fashion my Equites, and we could pull together this new order.

Okay- fun. I'll check out the templar history site, further, for organizational structure. Just keep in mind, I'm still new to this... ;) Oh and thanks for the extra man on the darkthrone.com game. What did you think? It has a great layout for what I think you are trying to achieve here:

Spys- sentries- miners- offensive- defensive troops, i.e, knights, archers, elite archers, soldiers, and guards.


I'll give the umbrella name some thought, just to try it out. And anyone else can add ideas. I'm still formulating my Equites, but if you want to see something of what it will be like, go to Templarhistory.com. Anyway, keep up the good work Shakti! You shall go far in this order.

P.S. I'm catholic, so is there anything that I'll find revoltingly and extremely offensive to the Church (If its a little, dont matter). I know this isn't the real world, but my stamp has to be on something I agree on. Anyway, good luck.

Ahha... yes, the church. If it helps I went to Catholic school too, Mt. St. Marys and St. Elizabeths, actually. So as far as the inner temple Church of thinking, as long as we maintain equality btw patriarch and matriachal responsibilities, without the suffocating rules enforced onto each order, I think you will be able to stomach most of the Rosy Cross' oder. However, in the rosy cross, you should be aware that our telescope of site, is purely kaleidoscope in nature. In essence, the laity are the nymphs, and the inverse, if you will. Therefore, everyone is unto themselves from the teachings, self realized in nature.
Shakti Blue Pearl
11-03-2005, 19:09
As far as Ahnenerbe, no worries. Our intentions would merely be to keep the order sacred and untouched, by the murky minded. By this I mean, if in fact, an outsider proves he is keen enough to learn the Rosicrucian knowledge and abide by the Templar codes, he would be considered to couple with the bloodline. But this is only after he was approved by each counsel member and then pushed to his limit through rigorous physical and spiritual tests, to prove he is at one with the purpose of "de Lampadis Vitae". The end result would be that in every pore and molecule of his being he would have to prove to both our orders that s/he is out for the good of all.

I guess I should add here that the order of the rosy cross' pure aim is to ascend all beings, back to there Atlantian nature of Gnosis. For any outsider, after tasting a small bit of this lotus nectar, (immortal bliss-truth serum) from our own cup of the holy grail, an explosion of the highest form of divine energies would awaken every sense, tissue, muscle, fiber of his being and brain- to the triune mysteries- thereby rendering him always wanting more of our sacred teachings and nourishing blood. Coupling with our blood also gives your order this same experience, that is why we have to protect the bloodline b/c it is pure dynasty when shared. And whoa- the children, well, they solftly radiate a blue-ish glow from their own divinity. The actual water nymphs are celestials sent from heaven, here to incorporate...much, with your order. ;)

Nonetheless, on a more logical level, we would be able to decipher btw the empiriscists and the rationalists through these tests, therefore keep the bloodline pure and in the higher wisdom of knighthood tuetonics. ;)
Shakti Blue Pearl
14-03-2005, 06:11
Nova Cambria: I'm really having a difficult time trying to put this order together. I read some of the Templar History order article and I liked the 6 degrees of separation onto the 6 items for admittance. So should I come up with something like that? Also, maybe you can show me an example of what you have worked on so I can take it from there...
Total Submission
14-03-2005, 06:20
What about the peasent men? Can we do something special with them? :D
Trilateral Commission
14-03-2005, 06:22
Islamic Jihad Army ...

I concur with this idea.
Inshallah
Nova Calabria
14-03-2005, 14:13
I would say that follwoing the Templar's way of organization, sicne it is the best way at the moment to organize both of our orders. I'll be able to give you my proposal within the week: I've been busy lately, but this order will be on it's feet soon. If there are any other questions, just ask.

P.S. I like the stuff you posted before!