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Court tells dying man with six months to live "Come back in 14 months"

Patra Caesar
09-03-2005, 04:53
The winner of today's stupid thread is the Itallian civil court. With an avarage court case lasting over eight years it seems that people must play by their timetable. :rolleyes:


Court tells dying man to postpone death
From correspondents in Rome
March 09, 2005

A MAN given six months to live by his doctors has been told by an Italian court to come back in 14 months to hear the outcome of his demand for insurance damages.

Carmelo Cisabella, 39, has an inoperable spine disease and is anxious to pick up some 450,000 euros ($752,523) in already-agreed damages from his insurers to help ease his final months of life, Il Messaggero newspaper reported overnight.

In a bid to speed up the process, Cisabella turned to the Sicilian courts to put pressure on the slow-moving insurers, but was told to return next year to hear their decision.

In his frustration, he chained himself to the gates of the law courts to bring attention to his plight.

Il Messaggero said Cisabella's woes dated back more than a decade when he was left paralysed by a motorcycle accident.

Confined to a wheelchair, he subsequently developed a lethal infection of the spine.

The insurance claim dates back to the road crash.

Italian justice is notoriously slow and it takes on average 3041 days (8.33 years) to obtain a definitive sentence in a civil case.
See u Jimmy
09-03-2005, 15:14
The winner of today's stupid thread is the Itallian civil court. With an avarage court case lasting over eight years it seems that people must play by their timetable. :rolleyes:

That is just Sooooooooo Bad.
Neo-Anarchists
09-03-2005, 15:15
Wow...
That is so fucked up it's scary.
Daistallia 2104
09-03-2005, 17:17
That is just Sooooooooo Bad.

Eight years for a court case? That would be fast here. The famous Minamato mercury pollution/poisoning cases draged out over more than 30 years, and that's pretty typical.
(Don't let anyone tell you the Japanese don't sue for cultural reasons. It's structural obsticals that keep the number of lawsuits down here.)
Fimble loving peoples
09-03-2005, 17:20
I like that. If court cases all took that long less people would sue. Whiney fools.

Plus it just shows how relaxed they are.
Daistallia 2104
09-03-2005, 17:27
I like that. If court cases all took that long less people would sue. Whiney fools.

Plus it just shows how relaxed they are.

What of the concept that justice delayed is justice denied? In this case, and the case I mentioned, it seems that justice has been denied to people to no good end. (Quite a large number of the Minamata victems died of mercury poisoning without getting to see justice done. Many more have yet to recieve their compensation.)
Corneliu
09-03-2005, 17:31
This is really funny.

And here I thought American Courts were dumb.

BTW: Someone is sueing NOAA for the Tsunami because the region didn't have adequate warning and somehow feels that its NOAAs fault.
Anarchic Conceptions
09-03-2005, 17:36
Plus it just shows how relaxed they are.
You've never seen them drive obviously ;)
Lacadaemon II
09-03-2005, 17:41
What of the concept that justice delayed is justice denied? In this case, and the case I mentioned, it seems that justice has been denied to people to no good end. (Quite a large number of the Minamata victems died of mercury poisoning without getting to see justice done. Many more have yet to recieve their compensation.)

Dosen't Japan have a whacky system for becoming a lawyer too?

From my understanding there is no, what we would call, law school (though some universities offer law degrees). All you have to do is just sit the Bar and pass it. Then hey presto you are a lawyer. The joker in this system is that the Japanese Bar is utterly impossible with like a 1% pass rate. Apparently the pressure is intense and a lot of japanese lawyers end up screwed up.
Daistallia 2104
09-03-2005, 18:10
Dosen't Japan have a whacky system for becoming a lawyer too?

From my understanding there is no, what we would call, law school (though some universities offer law degrees). All you have to do is just sit the Bar and pass it. Then hey presto you are a lawyer. The joker in this system is that the Japanese Bar is utterly impossible with like a 1% pass rate. Apparently the pressure is intense and a lot of japanese lawyers end up screwed up.

Pretty much.
A limited number of universities (less than 100) have undergraduate law faculties. These tend to turn out people headed for govenment jobs. Until recent reforms, there were only 500 passes a year for the bar exam.

Here's a good run down: http://www.aals.org/2000international/english/japan.htm

Check out this blog by a foreign student at Waseda, one of the top universities in Japan: http://www.wasedalaw.com/nuffsaid/archives/waseda/index.php
Teh Cameron Clan
09-03-2005, 18:25
the stupidity of this world never ceases to amaze me...